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    [Curiosity] Do you guys use programs like CM Scout?

    Hello guys,

    Im about to start a new season with CM and i used Scout for quite a bit. I would like to know what the majority of you prefer. Do you play with wib/wob tactics, CM scout or any other exploit program to make the game easier? Or just play the game as it is?

    Sorry about my english.

    Regards from Portugal

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    Lately I've been trying to avoid wib/wob tactics, but wouldn't rule out using them again. The only tool I've ever used to make the game easier is Graeme Kelly's save game editor, so I can change my nationality and have a chance of finding a job abroad. It used to be near impossible to do so without having the right nationality but Saturn's recent patches have greatly improved this issue, so I shouldn't need to use it again.

    Your English is fine, don't worry.

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    I have used CM Scout in the past. Depends what kind of game I am setting up for myself.

    Don't tend to use wib wob tactics though.

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    I used to be a full blown cheater: use fully wibwobbed tactics, use CM Scout and Graeme Kelly's editor.

    But I have seen the light! I now only use wibwob tactics when I play against AI wibwobbed tactics myself (samsami's harder AI tactics) and no more tools.
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    I play "as is"

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    I play as is. However I use Graeme Kellys for changing my team's away kit at the beginning of every season. And sometimes I correct Mike Duff's nationality so that he can have a go for his country.

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    Awesome info guys! Thank you all!!

    Iam addicted to wib/wob tactics, is it really that OP ? If so ill consider turning it off.

    Also do i need ALL saturn patches or just the last one? If i install the last one does it contain the updates of the other 3 ?

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    The Saturn v4 patch is the latest and is the only one you need. It contains everything from former patches and even more. It also automatically comes with the October 2017 data update so you'll have the newest players as well!

    In my opinion using wibwobs when the computer is using no wibwobs is unfair and boring. If you really like wibwobs then you can add samsami's harder AI pack to make the computer play with wibwobs too. I must warn you that this will make the game more difficult, but also much more fun! You can find them here: http://champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=file&id=221

    So basicly, download and install Saturn's v4 patch, then put the harder tactics in your folder and start a new save!

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    Thank you so much GFRay, this is the best gaming forum i have ever found. People are always willing to help "newbies".

    I read the Saturn v4 page i need to substitute my data for theirs. Do you play with Saturn patch? Is it good?

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    Saturn patch is the most stable and has a lot of changes/but fixes. It automatically comes with the latest data so that's good as well.

    A new feature in his patch is the new value system. It's been improved to represent the current money flow in real football. Like Neymar to PSG for 222 million.

    I really like and recommend the v4 patch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFRay View Post
    I really like and recommend the v4 patch!
    I second this

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    I will give it a try, do i need to install tapani also? Or saturn starts the game in 2017? I read the tutorial but i didnt get that part. My english is kinda limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolcrazy View Post
    I will give it a try, do i need to install tapani also? Or saturn starts the game in 2017? I read the tutorial but i didnt get that part. My english is kinda limited.
    You don't need a tapani patch and the Saturn patch starts in 2017 only.

    Here's what you need to do:

    1. Install the game fresh.
    2. Update the game to version 3.9.68 with the official patch.
    3. Delete the 'Data' folder in your main CM0102 folder.
    4. Download the 'Data' folder from Saturn v4 patch page and put it in your main folder.
    5. In post #2 on the Saturn v4 patch page you find the special cm0102.exe you need to run the patch.
    6. Select and download an .exe that suits you and put it in your main CM0102 folder replacing the normal .exe when asked.
    7. PLAY

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    Awesome I already have tapani installed to increase game speed. I hope it doesnt cause any harm. Thanks ill try it now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolcrazy View Post
    Awesome I already have tapani installed to increase game speed. I hope it doesnt cause any harm. Thanks ill try it now!!
    You can't use tapani with this patch I believe. Their are many .exe you can choose from and they're sorted by game speed. Just take the one with the speed that you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolcrazy View Post
    I'm about to start a new season with CM and i used Scout for quite a bit. I would like to know what the majority of you prefer. Do you play with wib/wob tactics, CM scout or any other exploit program to make the game easier? Or just play the game as it is?
    Using wib/wob tactics is fine. However you can win anything with any team using wib/wob against the standard/default computer opponents. So that tends to make the game boring.

    I recommend:

    (a) using no wib/wob, or:
    (b) using wib/wob but have the computer use a wib/wob pack if tactics as well (so download and install it).

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    sam do you use a) or b) ?

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    I see on the x4 tapani patch an option that says "Hide non-public bids" what does it do? When a club offers for a player that is not on my team i dont see it? Anyone care to explain?

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    if you shortlist a player and another club bids - you WILL hear of that bid if you have this box unticked

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    Better to stay unticked i guess Thanks red

    One last "novice" question. What does Disable unprotected contracts mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolcrazy View Post
    Better to stay unticked i guess Thanks red

    One last "novice" question. What does Disable unprotected contracts mean?
    When players who are 28 years or older sign a new contract, that contract gets 'unprotected' after 2 years. This allows clubs to buy those players for a sum that's equal of the remainder of the salary that is owed to the player. For players under 28 years, it's after 3 years. This prevents club to seal long term deals with players and keep them to it when they want to leave after 2 or 3 years. When a contract is unprotected, clubs can't ask what they want for a player.

    I generally turn this off, because it's annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolcrazy View Post
    Better to stay unticked i guess Thanks red

    One last "novice" question. What does Disable unprotected contracts mean?

    If a player hasnt signed a contract for 2 years or more their contract becomes unprotected (something that no longer is applicable in real life), This means that the players become available to sign "on a contract" for a fee, even if said player still has 1/2/3 or more years still left on their contract.

    Or something along those lines. Not had that option unticked in a long time (Forgetful about renewing contracts and always kept losing my star players)

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolcrazy View Post
    sam do you use a) or b) ?
    I use option b) in all of my stories including the current one.

    So that's wib/wob but with the strongest wib/wob pack install for the computer to use.

    It's taking me many years to lead Blackburn Rovers to the top!

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    I used to play with wib/wob but i realized that it gets boring fast, i pick a low tier team and make it to win the champions league rather easily without doing anything. (Been using CM Scout also and gfp finder.

    We are on the year 2017 and i think its time to play this game for real xD

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    What is the speed you guys using? normal , x2, x4, x200 etc?

    Do you often change tactics in the middle of the match?

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