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    Ok, I have created a benchmark save candidate:

    http://tapani.homeftp.org/cm/BM-v1.0.zip

    On my computer, it takes around 12 seconds for a season.
    Also, the accompanying exe writes the benchmark result to the file "benchresult.txt" after each run.
    This makes it possible to benchmark many times in a row, fully automated.

    So to run the benchmark 20 times (without having to lift a finger to copy results) do:
    1. Start a command prompt
    2. Navigate to your CM folder
    3. Code:
      for /l %x in (1, 1, 20) do start /wait cm0102_bm.exe -load a.sav
    4. The league tables are all in benchresult.txt !


    (Obviously you need to place the cm0102_bm.exe and a.sav in your CM folder.)

    EDIT: The tiny database I used is also included in the zip, but unless you want to create a new game you do not need that
    Last edited by Tapani; 12-07-14 at 10:48 AM. Reason: Added database information

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    Do I have to FTP down? Got a 403 error when I tried to download it.

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    That's awesome. Time to get into testing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapani View Post
    The tactic type seems to be encoded at offset 0xfe in the tactic file.
    A 4-4-2 has overview "28 1b 06 c1" and a 3-0-2-2-3 has "38 11 53 81".
    What I ment with this is: if we want more 4-4-3 (for instance), we probably can use the 532_vX files. Save a 433 in the file, mark them as 433 formation and the game might use them as 433s (instead of 532).

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    Quote Originally Posted by faz44 View Post
    Do I have to FTP down? Got a 403 error when I tried to download it.
    Thank you for telling me! My fault. Try again.

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    It seems you're still uploading so I'll have to do this later. I've downloaded it three times and got three corrupted archives, each time with more files than the last.

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    Umm yeah. Forgot I was uploading over 4G... the upload just finished.

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    It does work, even with my annoying Avast making me run everything twice. What's the plan to get the data we need?

    EDIT: Disable autosave!

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    There are no virus warnings this time, I hope? Gave out my exe rather than a patcher... so a virus in that exe is probably real.
    (Still a bit wary for someones AV triggering on my patcher)

    The plan: just see if the save is acceptable. My worry is that the best tactics will go undefeated through that league.
    I tried to balance it in a way that the default 4-4-2 scores just around relegation (~30 pts).
    Maybe I need to nerf the team some more?

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    Does the save game include some of the new AI formations I posted?

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    I believe not yet Dermo >)

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    Cheers, wont get a chance to look until weekend

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    Any joy with some one these yet Tapani? Even the 4231 to replace the 2 sweeper versions would be a great help to the Update Team at the minute

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    Here's the test DB from the 4 or 5 Challenges I ran - https://www.sendspace.com/file/xow3fs

    Pick Orlando Magic. It's a tough DB even though you can't get sacked. Only load Turkey btw

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    I am still hoping to do some, but there is so many things to do, and so little time. Working takes too much time away from CM stuff :p

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    Pesky work!

    If you do get time the 4231 formations to replace the 2 sweeper variants would be fantastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapani View Post
    Ok, I have created a benchmark save candidate:

    http://tapani.homeftp.org/cm/BM-v1.0.zip

    On my computer, it takes around 12 seconds for a season.
    Also, the accompanying exe writes the benchmark result to the file "benchresult.txt" after each run.
    This makes it possible to benchmark many times in a row, fully automated.

    So to run the benchmark 20 times (without having to lift a finger to copy results) do:
    1. Start a command prompt
    2. Navigate to your CM folder
    3. Code:
      for /l %x in (1, 1, 20) do start /wait cm0102_bm.exe -load a.sav
    4. The league tables are all in benchresult.txt !


    (Obviously you need to place the cm0102_bm.exe and a.sav in your CM folder.)

    EDIT: The tiny database I used is also included in the zip, but unless you want to create a new game you do not need that
    Just noticed this Tapani so gave it a try out but i'm just getting duplicate results (all 20 tables in the benchmark text doc are exactly the same), any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofy View Post
    Just noticed this Tapani so gave it a try out but i'm just getting duplicate results (all 20 tables in the benchmark text doc are exactly the same), any ideas?
    Scratch that, auto save was on doh!

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    For those who don't know, I created the almost hardest possible AI tactics:
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...tactics_80.zip

    Using those AI tactics makes cm0102 challenging even if you use iodineCF or whatever

    (Those tactics are not modern tactics, but exactly what cm0102 say what they are)

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    le fichier ai tactic ne fonctionne pas erreur serveur cordialement

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    Quote Originally Posted by david59820 View Post
    le fichier ai tactic ne fonctionne pas erreur serveur cordialement

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    Any idea which default tactics are linked to which Preferred Formation? There are only 9 preferred formations but 40 tactics. I know some depend on the AI managers Non-Playing Attributes but could be handy to know to force the AI to play a certain formation e.g. replace the Sweeper formations with 4231, if there are only 2 sweeper formations linked to preferred style '5-3-2 Sweeper'

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    Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but it seems like the connections to what formation they play are a little convoluted.
    There are a couple of patterns iv'e definitely noticed.

    a 451 guy that mostly used 451, 451def, norway, and mod 451(that looks like a 4411).
    a 41212 guy that mostly used 41212, and 442v4
    one 433 guy that mostly used 4321v1, and 451def(when parked bus)
    another 433 guy that mostly used sweeperv1, 352v2, and def counter

    So i don't think it's totally based on preferred formation, I'll try and see what preferred sweeper guy uses

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    Is is possible to replace the default tactics for the tactics in the ultimate packs? So every AI team uses them.

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