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    Quote Originally Posted by fairedinkum View Post
    Right, I've loaded Olly up and so far I understand it, thing I don't understand is the values and what changing them will do. I'd like to make the FA Cup the last Saturday in May and the Champions League the Saturday before and both evening games, but I don't know what values mean what actual dates and if there is some kind of order in them. Apologies if I'm missing something but this is baffling me.
    Fixture offsets generally have the same structures for each round. First there are the offsets which determine the date of the round, which are then followed by the rules for that round. Let's look at the first set of offsets for the FA Cup.
    Code:
    0056F3D9       > 0FBF47 40                    MOVSX EAX,WORD PTR DS:[EDI+40]
    0056F3DD       . 55                           PUSH EBP
    0056F3DE       . 50                           PUSH EAX
    0056F3DF       . 6A 05                        PUSH 5
    0056F3E1       . 53                           PUSH EBX
    0056F3E2       . 6A 09                        PUSH 9
    0056F3E4       . 6A 09                        PUSH 9
    0056F3E6       . 53                           PUSH EBX
    0056F3E7       . 56                           PUSH ESI
    0056F3E8       . E8 732AFBFF                  CALL cm0102.00521E60
    0056F3ED       . 0FBF4F 40                    MOVSX ECX,WORD PTR DS:[EDI+40]
    0056F3F1       . 53                           PUSH EBX
    0056F3F2       . 51                           PUSH ECX
    0056F3F3       . 6A 01                        PUSH 1
    0056F3F5       . 6A 05                        PUSH 5
    0056F3F7       . 53                           PUSH EBX
    0056F3F8       . 6A 09                        PUSH 9
    0056F3FA       . 6A 10                        PUSH 10
    0056F3FC       . 53                           PUSH EBX
    0056F3FD       . 56                           PUSH ESI
    0056F3FE       . E8 AD2AFBFF                  CALL cm0102.00521EB0
    The first half of the above sets the draw date for this round. It is broken down as follows:
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    0056F3D9       > 0FBF47 40                    MOVSX EAX,WORD PTR DS:[EDI+40]
    0056F3DD       . 55                           PUSH EBP
    0056F3DE       . 50                           PUSH EAX				; Current year. I don't think this should ever be changed.
    0056F3DF       . 6A 05                        PUSH 5				; Day. 0 = Monday, 1 = Tuesday ... 5 = Saturday, 6 = Sunday.
    0056F3E1       . 53                           PUSH EBX				; Whether the date occurs in this calendar year or the next. 0 (EBX in this case) = 2001, 1 = 2002.
    0056F3E2       . 6A 09                        PUSH 9				; Month. 0 = January, 1 = February ... 0A (10 in hexademical) = November, 0B (11 in hexademical) = December.
    0056F3E4       . 6A 09                        PUSH 9				; Date. 1 = 1st ... 1F (31 in hexademical) = 31st.
    0056F3E6       . 53                           PUSH EBX				; Round the draw is for. 0 (EBX in this case) = Round #1 = Qualifying Round
    0056F3E7       . 56                           PUSH ESI
    0056F3E8       . E8 732AFBFF                  CALL cm0102.00521E60
    All draw date offsets follow this structure. The date the game selects for anything can be best described as the day closest to the date of the month. The day will always be the most important thing and will always overrule the date (and the month if necessary). For example, if you set the code to play a match on Tuesday the 30th of November, the game will set it to the nearest Tuesday to that date, which will be Tuesday the 1st of December.

    Now for the match date offsets, which look quite similar:
    Code:
    0056F3ED       . 0FBF4F 40                    MOVSX ECX,WORD PTR DS:[EDI+40]
    0056F3F1       . 53                           PUSH EBX				; Host. 0 (EBX in this case) = Home team hosts. 
    0056F3F2       . 51                           PUSH ECX				; Current year. I don't think this should ever be changed.
    0056F3F3       . 6A 01                        PUSH 1				; Time of day. 0 = AM, 1 = PM, 2 = EVE.
    0056F3F5       . 6A 05                        PUSH 5				; Day. 0 = Monday, 1 = Tuesday ... 5 = Saturday, 6 = Sunday.
    0056F3F7       . 53                           PUSH EBX				; Whether the date occurs in this calendar year or the next. 0 (EBX in this case) = 2001, 1 = 2002.
    0056F3F8       . 6A 09                        PUSH 9				; Month. 0 = January, 1 = February ... 0A (10 in hexademical) = November, 0B (11 in hexademical) = December.
    0056F3FA       . 6A 10                        PUSH 10				; Date. 1 = 1st ... 1F (31 in hexademical) = 31st.
    0056F3FC       . 53                           PUSH EBX				; Round the match is for. 0 (EBX in this case) = Round #1 = Qualifying Round
    0056F3FD       . 56                           PUSH ESI
    0056F3FE       . E8 AD2AFBFF                  CALL cm0102.00521EB0
    Now for the offsets that relate to the match's rules. This doesn't cover all the rules for the match as things like sub rules/non-EU rules lie elsewhere.
    Code:
    0056F403       . 66:C746 07 DC00              MOV WORD PTR DS:[ESI+7],0DC	Name of the round. 0DC = Qualifying Round.
    0056F409       . 66:895E 09                   MOV WORD PTR DS:[ESI+9],BX
    0056F40D       . 66:895E 0B                   MOV WORD PTR DS:[ESI+B],BX
    0056F411       . 66:895E 0D                   MOV WORD PTR DS:[ESI+D],BX	Tiebreak. BX = 0 = no tiebreak (as a drawn match goes to a replay).
    0056F415       . B8 38000000                  MOV EAX,38
    0056F41A       . C646 17 04                   MOV BYTE PTR DS:[ESI+17],4
    0056F41E       . 66:8946 18                   MOV WORD PTR DS:[ESI+18],AX	Total teams in round. AX = 38 in hexademical = 56.
    0056F422       . 66:C746 1A 1C00              MOV WORD PTR DS:[ESI+1A],1C	Ties. 1C in hexademical = 28.
    0056F428       . BD 03000000                  MOV EBP,3				
    0056F42D       . 66:8946 1C                   MOV WORD PTR DS:[ESI+1C],AX	New teams entering round. AX = 38 in hexademical = 56.
    0056F431       . 66:896E 0F                   MOV WORD PTR DS:[ESI+F],BP        Replay's tiebreak. BP = 3 = ET & Pens.	
    0056F435       . 895E 13                      MOV DWORD PTR DS:[ESI+13],EBX
    0056F438       . 66:895E 1E                   MOV WORD PTR DS:[ESI+1E],BX
    0056F43C       . C646 20 01                   MOV BYTE PTR DS:[ESI+20],1	Number of replays.
    0056F440       . 885E 21                      MOV BYTE PTR DS:[ESI+21],BL	Number of legs.
    0056F443       . C646 22 0A                   MOV BYTE PTR DS:[ESI+22],0A	Days between legs or replays. 0A in hexademical = 10.
    0056F447       . 895E 5C                      MOV DWORD PTR DS:[ESI+5C],EBX	Prize money for reaching round. EBX = 0.
    0056F44A       . C746 60 10270000             MOV DWORD PTR DS:[ESI+60],2710	Prize money for winning round. 2710 in hexademical = 10,000 ().
    0056F451       . 895E 64                      MOV DWORD PTR DS:[ESI+64],EBX	Prize money for losing round. EBX = 0.
    All the blocks down to the Final one at 0056F9F7 generally have the same structures. Let me know if you get stuck somewhere.

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    I literally sussed this at 1pm this afternoon, luckily a mate understands hex values and talked me through it all. Overall I managed to move the FA Cup Final to 21st May 2016, and Champions League Final to the following Saturday 28th, just gonna run a test now on it cos I've been playing football this afternoon.

    On another note Saturn, I ran your exe with the International Comps adjusted, SPOT ON up to 2018 so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairedinkum View Post
    On another note Saturn, I ran your exe with the International Comps adjusted, SPOT ON up to 2018 so far.
    Great! I might do some other minor tweaks to it now that everything's in the correct year at least. Things like syncing up World Cup qualifiers to match the European international schedule: South America's in particular is a bit askew, though any changes would have to take into account South American continental club competitions (plus the Argentinian and Brazilian leagues).

    With Tapani 2.21 and my add-on the competitions are scheduled like below:
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    0 = World Cup Year	2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
    1 = World Cup Year -1	2001, 2005, 2009, 2013, 2017, 2021
    2 = World Cup Year -2	2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020
    3 = World Cup Year -3	1999, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2015, 2019
    
    World Cup Qualifying
    Africa			2 + 1
    Asia			1	Playoff with Europe
    Europe			2 + 1	Playoff with Asia
    Oceania			1	Playoff with S America
    CONCACAF		2 + 1
    S America		2 + 1	Playoff with Oceania
    
    European Championship Qualifying
    Europe			0 + 3
    
    International Competitions
    African Nations		1 + 3 (odd years)
    Asian Cup		3
    Confederations Cup	1
    Copa America		3
    European Championship	2
    OFC Nations Cup		2
    Olympic Games		2
    
    Possible clashes:
    Confederations Cup
    *African WCQ		Fixture R2 10 minor potential clash
    *Asian WCQ		Fixture R2 1 minor potential clash
    *S American WCQ		Fixture 14 moderate potential clash
    
    African Nations
    +African WCQ		Moved Fixtures 3 + 4 from January [1] and February [1] to September [2]
    *African WCQ		Fixture 5 moderate potential clash
    
    Olympic Games
    *European WCQ		Senior team clashes (does it matter?)
    *CONCACAF WCQ		Senior team clashes (does it matter?)
    *S American WCQ		Senior team clashes (does it matter?)
    
    Possible Tournament Rescheduling:
    African Nations		February -> January
    Asian Cup		October -> January (change draw date too)
    Confederations Cup	August -> June (but probably too congested)
    Olympic Games		August -> June

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    I'm slowly getting there with the basics of it all, I've managed to now get the Community Shield back to the first Sunday in August, and I'm in the process of trying to drag the Premier League back to begin on the second Saturday in August because, as an Englishman who loves playing in the English leagues, the backup of games at the end of May if competing in all 4 competitions is absolutely ridiculous and so dated.

    Something I have spotted something though, there's a few Saturday's on the Premier League schedule (2015 start) which are completely unused in the fixture schedule:-

    17th October
    9th January
    12th March
    26th March
    14th May

    I've checked and there's no clash with International football from what I can see (but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong cos I'd appreciate all the help I can get in clearing this mess up).

    I have just found the Offsets for the Premier League fixtures but it needs a lot of work and time but I'm gonna give it a try.

    Couple of questions, sometimes Olly shows the Arg values in the right hand column sometimes, but at other times it's not there at all, any idea how I keep it there as it's very helpful?

    Secondly, I've been finished going through all 59 pages on the offsets thread (some incredibly good stuff in there so thank you all), and saved all the bits I need, but I can't find the Europa League Final date offset anywhere, any ideas anyone please as I wanna move it.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by fairedinkum View Post
    I'm slowly getting there with the basics of it all, I've managed to now get the Community Shield back to the first Sunday in August, and I'm in the process of trying to drag the Premier League back to begin on the second Saturday in August because, as an Englishman who loves playing in the English leagues, the backup of games at the end of May if competing in all 4 competitions is absolutely ridiculous and so dated.

    Something I have spotted something though, there's a few Saturday's on the Premier League schedule (2015 start) which are completely unused in the fixture schedule:-

    17th October
    9th January
    12th March
    26th March
    14th May

    I've checked and there's no clash with International football from what I can see (but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong cos I'd appreciate all the help I can get in clearing this mess up).

    I have just found the Offsets for the Premier League fixtures but it needs a lot of work and time but I'm gonna give it a try.

    Couple of questions, sometimes Olly shows the Arg values in the right hand column sometimes, but at other times it's not there at all, any idea how I keep it there as it's very helpful?

    Secondly, I've been finished going through all 59 pages on the offsets thread (some incredibly good stuff in there so thank you all), and saved all the bits I need, but I can't find the Europa League Final date offset anywhere, any ideas anyone please as I wanna move it.........
    I am in the process of doing a patch (for use with JL Patcher tool) that reorganises the entire English calendar, European calendar & International tournament dates so it makes more sense and causes the least amount of fixture congestion at end of season for successful clubs. I may well tweak other leagues after I have concluded.

    Things my new calendar will feature-

    Community Shield played 1 week earlier.
    Premier League starts 1 week earlier, has a round of fixtures on the Sunday of FA Cup Final weekend and finishes 1 week later (same weekend as Football League Play-off Final).
    Football League starts 1 week earlier.
    Championship fixtures moved so they do not clash with any International dates and calendar reorganised to fit around Cup competitions.
    League One & Two fixtures moved so they do not clash with FA Cup 1st and 2nd Round dates, so they do have fixtures on FA Cup 3rd and 4th Round dates and reorganised to fit around other Cup competitions.
    Festive fixtures for all league tweaked so they are more realistic.
    FA Cup dates tweaked and Final moved 1 week later and to an evening kick-off.
    League Cup dates altered so they fit around European dates & International dates & Final brought forward to last Sunday in February. ie No more fixtures getting cancelled and falling a round behind for teams in Europe.
    Van Trophy dates altered completely so they are more realistic to current calendar.

    UEFA Champions League dates tweaked slightly.
    UEFA Champions League Final moved to closest Saturday to 2nd June-
    UEFA Cup dates altered so that Round 4 only in played in March, Q-Final & S-Final are in same week as UEFA Champions League & Final takes place on Wednesday before UEFA Champions League Final.

    World Cup calendar altered so it is more realistic to recent tournaments.
    European Champions calendar altered so it is more realistic to recent (16 team) tournaments.
    Other international competitions calendars altered to be more realistic to current tournament dates and to avoid clashes with European competition dates where ever possible.

    FIFA Club World Cup calendar altered to avoid clashes with European competitions.

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    Should we discuss International dates for qualys, etc before giving any major changes to UCL, UEFA, Libertadores, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golly View Post
    I am in the process of doing a patch (for use with JL Patcher tool) that reorganises the entire English calendar, European calendar & International tournament dates so it makes more sense and causes the least amount of fixture congestion at end of season for successful clubs. I may well tweak other leagues after I have concluded.
    How far along are you Golly? I've been thinking of doing the same but all I've done so far is collect information on fixtures, mostly international and continental. Here's a spreadsheet for the international calendar (image too). It's a bit difficult to spread four year cycles onto a single page, but with the table from post #1460 and the game open you can get a fair idea of the dates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiestita View Post
    Should we discuss International dates for qualys, etc before giving any major changes to UCL, UEFA, Libertadores, etc?
    Yes, definitely IMO. I think we should organise the dates in order of their importance.

    Repeating a bit of what Golly said, I think we should, in order;
    • Reorganize the international dates, seeing as they effect all competitions. Try and get the various confederations (in particular Africa, Europe and South America) to play on the same dates, perhaps the default European dates.
    • Improve the continental fixtures. Play European knockout rounds in the same weeks as Golly mentioned above. Potentially move other continental dates around if they now clash with the new international dates.
    • Review domestic calendars. These can be done individually and should be easy to fit around the new international/continental dates. Feedback would be required for smaller leagues, particularly non-European ones, but any problems should be easy to remedy. Cups can be fine tuned too, with legs and replays added or removed to match how the competitions are IRL.
    • Finalize the training/slacking schedule for each league. Fiestita has these sussed so any alterations will be easy to do.

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    So far I've moved the Community Shield to the second Sunday in August (week before Prem starts), wiped out all the FA Cup replays from round 3 onwards, Fa Cup Final moved to last but one Saturday in May, and the Champions League final to last Saturday in May. I'm running a test now on the above stuff and I'm also gonna check the 'lost' Saturday's I mentioned above to see if anything gets played on them. If nothing does, I'm gonna move the Capital One fixtures around a bit to see if I can make it more realistic, as both the semis and the final are currently around a month late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairedinkum View Post
    I'm slowly getting there with the basics of it all, I've managed to now get the Community Shield back to the first Sunday in August, and I'm in the process of trying to drag the Premier League back to begin on the second Saturday in August because, as an Englishman who loves playing in the English leagues, the backup of games at the end of May if competing in all 4 competitions is absolutely ridiculous and so dated.
    Good stuff, the more you edit the easier it gets.

    Quote Originally Posted by fairedinkum View Post
    Something I have spotted something though, there's a few Saturday's on the Premier League schedule (2015 start) which are completely unused in the fixture schedule:-

    17th October
    9th January
    12th March
    26th March
    14th May

    I've checked and there's no clash with International football from what I can see (but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong cos I'd appreciate all the help I can get in clearing this mess up).

    I have just found the Offsets for the Premier League fixtures but it needs a lot of work and time but I'm gonna give it a try.
    17th October - Looks free
    9th January - FA Cup Third Round
    12th March - FA Cup Quarter Final, so partly free
    26th March - International date
    14th May - Was the original FA Cup Final weekend, but looks free

    Quote Originally Posted by fairedinkum View Post
    Couple of questions, sometimes Olly shows the Arg values in the right hand column sometimes, but at other times it's not there at all, any idea how I keep it there as it's very helpful?
    Sorry, can't help there.

    Quote Originally Posted by fairedinkum View Post
    Secondly, I've been finished going through all 59 pages on the offsets thread (some incredibly good stuff in there so thank you all), and saved all the bits I need, but I can't find the Europa League Final date offset anywhere, any ideas anyone please as I wanna move it.........
    The Final block starts at 00902AEE.

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    Right, after hours of testing and constantly checking, I've done the following to the exe via Olly:-

    Note; all changes are done with Tapani 2.21 used and starting year of 2015

    FA Cup Final moved to last but one Saturday in May

    FA Cup replays abolished after 3rd round on wards to stop fixture pileup when competing in all 4 competitions at the end of the season

    Champions League Final moved to the last Saturday in May

    Europa League Final moved to the Wednesday between the FA Cup and Champions League Finals

    Community Shield moved to the Sunday before the Premier League starts

    Premier League - the last game brought back a week in May to the 'ghost' Saturday of 14th May

    FA Cup 3rd Rd - put back a week to the 'ghost' Saturday of January 9th

    FA Cup Quarters - put back a week to the 'ghost' Saturday of March 12th

    FA Cup Semis - venues changed to more traditional ones (Old Trafford and Hillsborough are 2 examples)

    Premier League games 10, 11, 12 and 13 all brought forward a week so the 'ghost' Saturday of October 17th is used, and now no Premier League games are scheduled to be played on the international break of November 14th so none have to be rescheduled by the game itself.

    Premier League games 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32 all brought forward a week so the 'ghost' Saturday of February 20th is used, and now the April 9/10 FA Cup Semi-Final weekend now has no Premier League games scheduled so therefore no Premier League games have to be rescheduled by the game itself.

    Running the full season now to see if the fixture pileup still exists.

    Cheers for the Europa League Final offsets Saturn, much appreciated.
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    Re: Fixture Calendar. I am currently working on a patch to alter the fixture list to correct mistakes (like Premier League fixture 25), avoid fixture clashes and avoid fixture pile ups at the end of the season. Here are how the fixtures are scheduled for English & European competitions...














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    Hats off to you Golly, that would be amazing. I've been playing this game 14 years and only started coding yesterday, am learning bit by bit but bloody hell, it's hard work. The stuff I mentioned in my last post has taken me 3 days to sort and I'm on yet another full season test, just having trouble keeping the FA Cup Semis over the same weekend (9/10 April) and at decent venues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairedinkum View Post
    Hats off to you Golly, that would be amazing. I've been playing this game 14 years and only started coding yesterday, am learning bit by bit but bloody hell, it's hard work. The stuff I mentioned in my last post has taken me 3 days to sort and I'm on yet another full season test, just having trouble keeping the FA Cup Semis over the same weekend (9/10 April) and at decent venues.
    I moved the FA Cup Semi-Finals to Wembley on a Saturday. This caused one to be cancelled and played the following Wednesday. Because of this I just moved the Semi-Finals to the Tuesday- one is played on Tuesday and the other on the Wednesday.

    There is an error with the FA Cup Round 3 date. The date offsets in the original exe says (closest Saturday to) 5th January- this means in 2016 it is played on Saturday 2nd January. If you look at the Premier League fixtures the Saturday date should be 6th January- which would mean Saturday 9th January 2016. Other rounds have a similar problem and cause FA Cup/Premier League clashes and free Saturdays.

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    I've moved both the 3rd round and quarters to 'free' weekends and all is good until the semis, one always gets pushed back to the 13th April 2015 even though there is no fixture or stadium clash.

    Any idea what the numbers stand for in the venue host value? It was originally on PUSH 2A which gave random stadiums like the Ricoh Arena, I tried PUSH 5 which was both at Wembley but still struggling to kepp both over the 9/10 weekend.

    Also the date offset on the semis is PUSH EPB and it won't let me change it, any idea what it means?

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    PUSH 4 is the National Stadium (Wembley)
    PUSH 40 is the largest other Stadium (Old Trafford)

    EBP has a value. For the FA Cup Semi-Final offsets that value = 3 (Month "3"= April)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golly View Post
    PUSH 4 is the National Stadium (Wembley)
    PUSH 40 is the largest other Stadium (Old Trafford)

    EBP has a value. For the FA Cup Semi-Final offsets that value = 3 (Month "3"= April)
    Right I got ya, cheers for that mate. Running it on PUSH 2A now to see what happens, determined to get the Semi-Finals to coexist on the same weekend, but it's proving to be very difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairedinkum View Post
    Right I got ya, cheers for that mate. Running it on PUSH 2A now to see what happens, determined to get the Semi-Finals to coexist on the same weekend, but it's proving to be very difficult.
    I could never get it to work- same venue on Saturday & Sunday. This is why I moved them to Tuesday & Wednesday at Wembley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golly View Post
    I could never get it to work- same venue on Saturday & Sunday. This is why I moved them to Tuesday & Wednesday at Wembley.
    Ok mate I'll go with that then, appreciate the help.

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    To save all this getting buried in the Offsets thread I've moved it into this thread. I'll have a look for more similar posts to add to the thread

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    I've changed spreadsheet and designed a new calendar. WC, EC, Confed Cup and Copa America all moved to start of Jun. Asian Cup and African Nations moved to Jan. CONMEBOL qualys attached to UEFA. Reworked some new double dates for AFC and CONCACAF. Oceania and Africa attached to UEFA excepting for one match that is scheduled on Feb 24 and attached to AFC CONCACAF. Olympics moved two weeks earlier to avoid clashing with qualys. Most play-offs but CONCACAF's moved to Dec to match real life.




    Let me know what you think about. Inter-Toto could start by Jul 11th and make rounds WED to SUN instead WED to WED so it would end by Aug 24th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiestita View Post
    I've changed spreadsheet and designed a new calendar. WC, EC, Confed Cup and Copa America all moved to start of Jun. Asian Cup and African Nations moved to Jan. CONMEBOL qualys attached to UEFA. Reworked some new double dates for AFC and CONCACAF. Oceania and Africa attached to UEFA excepting for one match that is scheduled on Feb 24 and attached to AFC CONCACAF. Olympics moved two weeks earlier to avoid clashing with qualys. Most play-offs but CONCACAF's moved to Dec to match real life.

    Let me know what you think about. Inter-Toto could start by Jul 11th and make rounds WED to SUN instead WED to WED so it would end by Aug 24th.
    Good stuff Fiestita - a few suggestions:

    1. I think we should keep the March double-headers. All the European leagues have this coded in (or should anyway), so probably best to keep it.
    2. Something I forgot to mention: Europe has the exact same dates for its European Championship Qualifiers and World Cup Qualifiers, which is nice. But I think their first fixtures are too close to the end of the World Cup - teams could be playing a EC qualifier a week after playing in the World Cup Final which doesn't seem right.
    3. As we all know by now, the Third Place games are prone to being skipped. I think we should protect them by keeping them at least two weeks away from other international fixtures if possible. Accordingly, perhaps have the Olympics start 10 days earlier to avoid the September fixtures (and another reason to move the first ECQs away from the World Cup).
    4. Try and double-up the same fixture dates where possible, like how Europe has 1+8, 2+9 etc for all its fixtures. For instance S America could double-up its fixture 17 which would prevent fixture 5 from being on its own.
    5. Europe plays off with Asia for the World Cup so I'm not sure what effect having their play-offs scheduled for different dates would have. Perhaps just the inter-Europe ties get played on the European dates.
    6. Other confederatons should have their first WC qualifiers during the Euros summer. Most have more fixtures than Europe, so using their otherwise spare summer schdedule to get a headstart on Europe seems logical. The Confederations Cup could clash here though, but I think Africa and S America start their campaigns a year before it.
    7. Africa's R1 legs are too far apart, and should ideally be played over a double-header (March?). Doubling-up a few dates should make this possible.
    8. Round 3 of Asia doesn't really need a scheduled international slot as it's only a single game between two countries. R2 7,8,9 & 10 would be better off being bumped up a spot.
    9. The reason there are brackets around the November OFC Nations Cup is because it no longer takes place on these dates. When it was biennial it used those fixtures (I'm guessing to avoid clashing with the World Cup), but seeing as it's now a quadrennial tournament it shouldn't use them anymore.
    10. The Oceania qualifiers can safely have a Group A and Group B fixture scheduled on the same date.
    11. I think the May fixtures are positioned at too important a stage for European club football, even if it's for the smaller confederations.

    I will try and come up with another calendar tomorrow .

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    good, I'll work on your suggestions aswell mate.

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    Here's my proposed calendar:
    Spoiler!

    (The CONCACAF Carribean/Central America fixtures are both just under Zx now.)

    It looks okay on paper, but how feasible it would be to code is another thing. Asia still looks terrible, mainly because all its fixtures have to be played within a year so there's no chance to double-up on dates. It might be possible to spread them out over two years depending on how the qualifiers are coded, haven't looked at that yet.

    I'm also not 100% sure how Friendlies work in the calendar. I think they just take place on qualifier dates when not in a qualifying year but I'm not certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    Here's my proposed calendar:
    Spoiler!

    (The CONCACAF Carribean/Central America fixtures are both just under Zx now.)

    It looks okay on paper, but how feasible it would be to code is another thing. Asia still looks terrible, mainly because all its fixtures have to be played within a year so there's no chance to double-up on dates. It might be possible to spread them out over two years depending on how the qualifiers are coded, haven't looked at that yet.

    I'm also not 100% sure how Friendlies work in the calendar. I think they just take place on qualifier dates when not in a qualifying year but I'm not certain.
    Well, let's code then. Betatesting will reveal the friendlies thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    Here's my proposed calendar:
    Spoiler!

    (The CONCACAF Carribean/Central America fixtures are both just under Zx now.)

    It looks okay on paper, but how feasible it would be to code is another thing. Asia still looks terrible, mainly because all its fixtures have to be played within a year so there's no chance to double-up on dates. It might be possible to spread them out over two years depending on how the qualifiers are coded, haven't looked at that yet.

    I'm also not 100% sure how Friendlies work in the calendar. I think they just take place on qualifier dates when not in a qualifying year but I'm not certain.
    Why does Asia have to be played in a calendar year? Change the offsets so the draw is a year earlier, move the Asian Nations Cup to 2003/7/11/15... and you will have plenty of time to spread the qualification period out.

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