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    No he does not have to release anything. Watch your attitude.

    It's HIS fucking choice whether he releases it or not. Stop being kids ffs. Not every tactic has to be shared. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by info0 View Post
    No he does not have to release anything. Watch your attitude.

    It's HIS fucking choice whether he releases it or not. Stop being kids ffs. Not every tactic has to be shared. .
    Alright calm down. I think there's a language barrier here as English isn't his first language. Relax.

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    Well, it's not a language barrier problem. It's his attitude demanding for tactic release. If you accept it fine though .

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    Quote Originally Posted by info0 View Post
    Well, it's not a language barrier problem. It's his attitude demanding for tactic release. If you accept it fine though .
    I think the demanding tone of the message is because he doesn't know how to structure a sentence in an eloquent manner. It's fine. I'll release what I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scemoka View Post
    Again i'm repeating! For top class team it is necessary.(show football,beauty football) You have release it.
    Every player not holidaying. In full playing mode every cm player needs this tactic!
    imagine! you have mediocre team and you use balanced tactic.... 0-1,0-2 you're losing! there is no matter 0-3. after 60-65 min you have to take risks and you can switch to this tactic! attact & attack! i think - it is very well!

    Try out my 4-3-3 tactic if you like. I am using it in normal playing mode (no holiday) and it seems to give balanced player ratings. It's scores a good few goals and concedes very little so far. My keeper is far from a top keeper. The left sided midfielder likes to get forward and score goals. I'm playing with a DMC in the middle as I have so many of them. Try it out and let me know what you think.

    4-3-3_Mark_I
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/v262cp

    Free tactic for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by scemoka View Post


    Please test it Jesus! I did nothing special. Skeleton of this tactic is 4141 tapani iodine & iodineCF.
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/tbm9hj
    here are the results of 000.sav file. (de graafschap) 10 times on holiday mode.
    34 28 4 2 90 21 88
    34 25 8 1 79 25 83
    34 27 5 2 94 32 86
    34 20 7 7 74 32 67
    34 29 3 2 95 19 90
    34 28 5 1 100 30 89
    34 23 7 4 74 23 76
    34 26 4 4 89 33 82
    34 29 3 2 90 25 90
    34 29 2 3 105 35 89

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    Can i just ask. When you say Centralised, does this mean without wingers and fullbacks? And are these tactics with or without the with/without ball screens being used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarfender View Post
    Can i just ask. When you say Centralised, does this mean without wingers and fullbacks? And are these tactics with or without the with/without ball screens being used.
    Yup. Centralised means exactly that. (Look at KLIP as an example).

    The majority of these tactics are wib/wob with the exception being tembo's tactic which he submitted first to get the ball rolling.
    Last edited by Jesus; 14-03-16 at 09:39 PM.

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    LINK DOWNLOAD!!?

    LINK OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!?

    Damn who used to say that?

    Jesus do what you want, a bit of mystique about a tac would be good they just end up slagging the tac off in no time anyway





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    Hi

    Can you test my tactic please, link:

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/zfg8hw

    3331 NonWibWob
    Last edited by Sloblock; 31-03-16 at 10:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scemoka View Post
    Spoiler!


    Please test it Jesus! I did nothing special. Skeleton of this tactic is 4141 tapani iodine & iodineCF.
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/tbm9hj
    Tactic Name Formation Centralised? For Against Points Games Won Drawn Lost Goals Average Conceded Points Points Average
    3-3-3-1 iodine 3331 No 6901 2309 6494 2600 2049 347 204 69.01 23.09 64.07 - 65.81 64.94

    Another iodine rip off with a few tweaks (although you have credited it and you have been honest about it).

    Absolutely smashed it nevertheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion View Post
    Made a 4-3-3 from my 3-4-3 last night and so far results are good in normal play. Can you test it out for me please?

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    https://www.sendspace.com/file/v262cp
    Tactic Name Formation Centralised? For Against Points Games Won Drawn Lost Goals Average Conceded Points Points Average
    4-3-3_Mark_I 433 No 5433 2507 5649 2600 1717 498 385 54.33 25.07 55.33 - 57.65 56.49

    Must try harder.

    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by info0 View Post
    Tactic Name Formation Centralised? For Against Points Games Won Drawn Lost Goals Average Conceded Points Points Average
    433_b1_info0 433 No 5532 2595 5631 2600 1718 477 405 55.32 25.95 55.15 - 57.47 56.31

    A poor one by your standards.

    Spoiler!

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    Aww, I'm gutted by that. It's doing well in normal play as I said. The defence is fairly solid for a 4-3-3. I just need to get my strikers to score more and tweak it a bit. Maybe not just yet though.

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    Haha. I knew it, somehow.

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    I've made a tactic if anyone wants to test it. It plays pretty well and scores loads of goals, a bit leaky at the back but wins enough games for me to win pretty much everything. Its a 3-5-2 and if anyone wants to just give it a go in a game feel free.

    http://www.mediafire.com/download/45...e_than_you.tct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus View Post
    Tactic Name Formation Centralised? For Against Points Games Won Drawn Lost Goals Average Conceded Points Points Average
    3-3-3-1 iodine 3331 No 6901 2309 6494 2600 2049 347 204 69.01 23.09 64.07 - 65.81 64.94

    Another iodine rip off with a few tweaks (although you have credited it and you have been honest about it).

    Absolutely smashed it nevertheless.

    great tactic, won the CL with this bunch of washouts



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    Jesus can you test this one s'il vous plÍt? ty

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/6gjmgt

    Forward runs and run with ball are OFF because i do not really know the effects

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    To really stand out from the original league you should disqualify all blatant Iodine-clones and remove them from the rankings.

    There should be a set minimum of difference from excisting tactics as a precondition in order to qualify in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurishi View Post
    To really stand out from the original league you should disqualify all blatant Iodine-clones and remove them from the rankings.

    There should be a set minimum of difference from excisting tactics as a precondition in order to qualify in the first place.
    It's something I did consider but I couldn't get the CMTacTool to show comparisons between different tactics in Windows 10 (it just showed a blank playing field for both boxes). It's hard to implement a carpet ban on this sort of thing because where do you draw the line? How do you determine the percentage? People will use a tactic no matter what is hidden underneath.. the positives you can take from this tactic league is that the Iodine clones are found out for the cheap imitations that they are, due to the number of test runs they are subjected to.

    Another thing to consider is that some people like to play a certain formation and Iodine tweaks provide that flexibility. Take the 3331 Iodine that was submitted; it is a different variation of Iodine yet delivers impressive results. It means people have the freedom to shape their squads how they want. I also liked how the creator had credited his influence in the tactic name so that it isn't pretending to be something else. Those sorts of tactics I will permit in the Alternative Tactic League... Other tactics trying to pass themselves off as a new innovative tactic which are really an Iodine rip off I will have to think about.

    Finally, nobody is forcing someone to use the tactics submitted to this or the other league. I know the frustrations all too well with what has spawned as a result of the monster that is Iodine - the top 20/30 tactics if the OTL are Iodine clones.

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    There has to be a quick way to compute the total deviation in the wibwob-screens.

    I don't mind clones as long as they have some own input and ideas, like changing the formation in overview etc., but especially IodineCF just doesn't meet any standards you could have for originality, it boggles my mind that that tactic was ever accepted to participate in the league in the first place tbh, let alone earning that insane reputation when it is just a poor clone (not even the wibwobs were being adjusted ffs!) of Tapanis original 4141_iodine.

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    can someone benchmark this one?

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/ks54l7

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by o0opaulo0o View Post
    I've made a tactic if anyone wants to test it. It plays pretty well and scores loads of goals, a bit leaky at the back but wins enough games for me to win pretty much everything. Its a 3-5-2 and if anyone wants to just give it a go in a game feel free.

    http://www.mediafire.com/download/45...e_than_you.tct
    Tactic Name Creator Formation Centralised? For Against Points Games Won Drawn Lost Goals Average Conceded Points Points Average
    ScoreMoreThanYou o0opaulo0o 352 No 6153 2986 5717 2600 1762 431 407 61.53 29.86 56.23 - 58.11 57.17

    As you suggested it's a bit too leaky.

    Spoiler!
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