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scemoka
09-05-12, 10:39 AM
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Latest updated tactics of scemoka:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/6y9dp9
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3-2-4-1 dsc: one of the best ever in its own shape. very very solid. almost unbeteable.
4-1-4-1 dna: extremely solid. 4141tapani_iodine + some defense 451 superstranger+ my symmetrising.
Catenaccio: 4141 dna tweaked, Sweeper behinds than defenders everywhere.
Lobanovsky: renewed, now much more solid, direct team passing, works for every team.
4X1 btb: symmetric, solid and offensive tactic, wob 451 wib 4213 NEW!

3-3-3-1 gua: this is 3-3-3-1 iodine, later 3-3-3-1 rst symmetrised. (guardiola bayern)
3-5-2 jsc: crazy scoring tactic. tweaked ^Jack^s 3412.

262 MMJ: symmetrised ^Jack^'s 21412 tactic, returned original name.
2-6-2 rho: 4312 car - tweaked uppered wide wingers, solid-offensive.
2-6-2 XM: 262 rst became honest. very offensive. NEW!

M-3-2 rst: solid and very offensive. Fullbacks-1DC-2DMCs- 3 arrowed central MCs - no wingers.
+M: plus M is one of crazy scoring. fused from ultimatum+361drt+Looper352
3-1-5-1 ant: unique tactic from AtomicAnt's 3-6-1 antoka_bella_oslo. NEW!
W-T bie: W-T formation with 2 DCs. DMC-MC-AMC positinioned like vehicle wipers. @Rxx quoted ''Bielsa''.👍

4-4-2 cho: now more solid, no arrowed, cholo simoene.
4-2-4 frw : scoring tactic with wide side wingers.
4-2-3-1 cla: renewed more solid, more goals, balanced
4-2-2-2 col: sharp 4222 with offensive wing-backs. Two Dmc's tackle like monsters NEW!

christmas tree: my love!!! (%96 Franz Ferdinand's nagoya grampus)
4-3-3 wia: c-tree tweaked, a little bit more offensive, widered AMCs to AML-AMR
4-3-3 hpt: high pressing. pure 433 wib c-tree, wob Desp's 4141tapani_iodine pressing alto.
4-3-1-2 car: my love!!! (defence and midline c-tree tweaked) life record. conceeded only 1 goal with Juve.(ancelotti)
4-1-3-2 off: offensive symmectric 4132 tactic. (defend line c-tree tweaked)
3-4-3 att: my love!!! (AMLC-AMRC-SC line c-tree tweaked)
3-5-2 con: my love!!! genuine 352 - here AMC is second striker. 1000 years used. (conte)
3-5-2 dsc: wob most solid ever Desp's 3511 dna used- wib 3-5-2 con.
5-3-2 dna: wob Desp's most solid 3511 dna. wib 3 MCs and strikers from Lobanovsky, and direct team passing.

Fods
09-05-12, 10:41 AM
get some screenies up mate of the tactic and some results :ok:

scemoka
09-05-12, 10:56 AM
Hello Mates !
I see that in this forum lack of 3-5-2/ 3-4-3 tactics so i decided to make new tactic.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8h20td 3-4-2-1rev. with wingers.
I hope it will placed in first 200th in airwick's open tactic league.

Ps.
My other tactics ranked in Airwick's Open Tactic League
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noatt&nodef 238 :((
4-2-4 ravish 252 :((
creabarc 312 :((





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scemoka
09-05-12, 10:59 AM
On holiday mode with Torino four times tired and finished between 7th and 4th places.
If i play with my right players,with transfers, no holiday. Champions.

scemoka
01-11-14, 03:19 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1gyZFfCAAANnvv.png

Hi everyone! I created new tactic. (brazen.tct) Without Ball: 2-3-2-2-1 GK-DC-DC-DML-DMR-DMC-MC-MC-AMC-AMC-FC. With Ball: all out attact except two DC's. Impressive offensive records under ''OTL de graafschap save file rules''.

-34 - 30 - 1 - 3 - 096 - 28 - 91
-34 - 27 - 3 - 4 - 090 - 28 - 84
-34 - 26 - 5 - 3 - 100 - 41 - 83
-34 - 26 - 6 - 2 - 087 - 29 - 84
-34 - 27 - 3 - 4 - 104 - 33 - 84
-34 - 28 - 1 - 5 - 097 - 30 - 85
-34 - 22 - 7 - 5 - 072 - 26 - 73
-34 - 21 - 5 - 8 - 074 - 40 - 68
-34 - 24 - 8 - 2 - 085 - 31 - 80
-34 - 25 - 7 - 2 - 084 - 29 - 82

Try it! Won't regret! ;)
https://www.sendspace.com/file/pg90rs

Dermotron
03-11-14, 12:27 PM
You were linking to the page, not the image :ok:

scemoka
03-02-15, 05:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/d0kyJ3d.png



who can gain 102 points? ;)

zionmaster
04-02-15, 07:40 AM
It's too easy to get Scu. But it would be very hard to get CL :happy: Some more screens plz

ajra21
05-02-15, 04:01 PM
It's too easy to get Scu. But it would be very hard to get CL :happy: Some more screens plz

why is it easy to get the scudetto?

scemoka
25-04-15, 11:36 AM
.https://i.imgur.com/CTIhPNP.png

wawa
27-04-15, 05:54 PM
Hello , have you tried it ?

scemoka
28-04-15, 08:21 AM
Yes, tried lots of times with my own toro-test. If you want better results change mentality to attack, remove dmc's mixed passing, and all long shots. won't regret! ;)

piotrrybak
31-08-15, 04:10 PM
scemoka please re upload this tactic
BIG THANKS !

scemoka
02-09-15, 05:37 PM
ok. i renovated tactic. Team passing is Mixed. ;))

https://www.sendspace.com/file/3ye4t7

scemoka
02-09-15, 05:41 PM
Link updated
https://www.sendspace.com/file/grtfvv

scemoka
28-01-16, 10:45 PM
http://i.imgur.com/SZbG33h.png



https://www.sendspace.com/file/rf7rq8

Rxx
29-01-16, 12:55 AM
Thanks for sharing, when you learn to play with the 3-5-2/5-3-2 your opposition suffers a lot.

Fods
29-01-16, 07:39 AM
Not bad :ok:

Centurion
02-02-16, 04:51 AM
How do the strikers do for you?

Mohsin
24-02-16, 11:08 PM
Hi what team instructions do you use?

Now that I found out Antonio Conte will be Chelsea's next manager, and that he likes to use the 3-5-2 formation, I was looking to replicate it in game and see.

Didn't he use one of the central defenders as a sweeper though to act as cover in case they got past 2 of the central defenders? and Pirlo as a deeper lying playmaker so in the CDM position? I was google imaging Juventus old 3-5-2 formation under Conte but all of them look different

And would arrows from the strikers going out left and right make them play even better from what I've heard about CM 01/02 so far?

Let me know anyway, thanks.

scemoka
26-02-16, 01:02 PM
Try and see the instractions.;) Central DC mostly behind DLC and DRC-, has run with ball and forward runs like modern sweeper Bonucci. Central MC is always placed behind MLC and MRC making assists, you can consider him as deep-lying playmaker.Two real winger-backs! Two forwards,who move sufficiently to left and to right when defending or begining of the attact. MLC and MRC supports attack scores goals.
What is the problem? Last 5 seasons i watched more than 200 matches of Juve. This tactic is very close to real Juuve's 3-5-2 under CM 0102 game machine facts!

http://i.imgur.com/39d79d7.png http://i.imgur.com/5qZdmoJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/zOkvBCU.png

Jesus
26-02-16, 02:43 PM
Sigh. Yet another Iodine rip off.

scemoka
01-04-16, 08:51 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jZ6M68k.png

Please test it Jesus! I did nothing special. Skeleton of this tactic is 4141 tapani iodine & iodineCF.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/tbm9hj


4141 tapani iodine & iodineCF has a new brother.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/tbm9hj

wawa
01-04-16, 10:31 AM
Thx , i'm going to try it right now !

bahamontes
05-04-16, 06:40 PM
brilliant tactic! i love the 3 DCs and i just keep winning with a very stable defense - 49:2 goals in 13 matches!

Tino11
09-04-16, 11:20 PM
Hello all,

I've just joined the site so I'm sorry for asking questions that have probably been asked before!

I'm running just the original version (3.9.60). I was wondering if the tactics in these threads work with that build or would I have to use a patch and/or data update?

I have downloaded a few of the tactics and the formations have loaded fine but I'm not sure on the WIB/WOB if they have uploaded correctly.

If someone could post a pic of the WIB/WOB screens of this tactic (3-3-3-1 iodine) and the team instructions then I will know that the tactic is loading correctly, thank you.

Jesus
09-04-16, 11:47 PM
Hello all,

I've just joined the site so I'm sorry for asking questions that have probably been asked before!

I'm running just the original version (3.9.60). I was wondering if the tactics in these threads work with that build or would I have to use a patch and/or data update?

I have downloaded a few of the tactics and the formations have loaded fine but I'm not sure on the WIB/WOB if they have uploaded correctly.

If someone could post a pic of the WIB/WOB screens of this tactic (3-3-3-1 iodine) and the team instructions then I will know that the tactic is loading correctly, thank you.

The wib/wob stays the same no matter what patch you use (.60/.65/.68)

Tino11
10-04-16, 12:04 AM
Thanks, I'm still not sure the tactics are working correctly as the screens for wib/wob look off.

Has anyone got any wib/wob screen shots for any tactics and I will load that one and see if it matches?

info0
10-04-16, 12:09 AM
It matches. ;)

Have you thought no-one tested this durning 17 years of game release? :p.

Tino11
10-04-16, 12:12 AM
It matches. ;)

Have you thought no-one tested this durning 17 years of game release? :p.

Yes I realise you all test them but you all use later versions and also have data uploads and patches, I don't have any of those loaded?

Topofthekop
10-04-16, 12:28 AM
Yes I realise you all test them but you all use later versions and also have data uploads and patches, I don't have any of those loaded?

When you download a tactic and put in your tactic folder nothing changes on the wib/wob screens. Doesnt matter what data or patch.

Tino11
10-04-16, 12:40 AM
When you download a tactic and put in your tactic folder nothing changes on the wib/wob screens. Doesnt matter what data or patch.

Ok thanks, I accept what you are all saying. I was just making sure as I see most users on this site have at least 1 patch and/or data upload so I presumed the newer tactics would only work with those games.

Thanks again to everyone who replied.

Nurishi
11-04-16, 03:08 PM
This may just be the best adaptation of Iodine to date, ATL-score indicates that it might even top the original.

Impressive considering how many have tried to copy it but fell short resultswise.

Excellent effort! :ok:

Cam F
13-04-16, 08:21 PM
Playing this in a career game in 0001 on train to work and really enjoying it.

Has the crucial thing for me of good all round ratings :D

Top work scemoka

minusmf
15-04-16, 10:33 PM
4141 tapani iodine & iodineCF has a new brother.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/tbm9hj

Great tactic man.It fits perfectly in my cm 00 01 game.Though it doesnt like iodine tacs much ,this one works great

Felix
16-04-16, 02:56 AM
Trying this one out with Real Madrid. Very satisfying results this far!

sober884
19-04-16, 02:21 PM
IS this gonna work on the original version of the game?I'm still playing 3.9.68

Jesus
19-04-16, 02:40 PM
IS this gonna work on the original version of the game?I'm still playing 3.9.68
Yep, should be fine.

scemoka
22-04-16, 04:58 PM
Fantasy. It use to be dream. :) Rush!
http://i.imgur.com/icNmJsq.png

https://www.sendspace.com/file/s0rr4h


New tactic. Try it! You will have incredible results (win or lose).
You can kill your opponent at first 20 mins, after that you can switch to your lovely balanced formations.
Are you loosing? And nothing will be worse... ?
At 60'th minute you can easily use this tactic for unforgettable comebacks!

scoring record with de graafschap & conceeded record with my own torotest! ;)


http://i.imgur.com/aRCOCDR.png
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http://i.imgur.com/g0obgNg.png

Have fun Mates!

SuperStranger
22-04-16, 05:00 PM
he is copy of me :rofl:

Cam F
24-04-16, 07:58 PM
Any chance please of a 442 Scemoka?

scemoka
24-04-16, 10:29 PM
I think with usage of 4 cored CPU, running up 8 CM at same time-tapani has own unpublished the best of the best 442 tactic, which he uses in his careers. ;) :D

I created diego siemeone's 442. (wib: wide 442 classic, wob : narrowed wingers - a little bit similar to your iodinecf. Needs impromevement.
I should have to try more with torotest holidaying-and full playing so many times.

fry78
23-05-16, 06:50 PM
This looks very similar to the 2-3DMC-1MC-3AMC-1SC which wins against most teams as long as there is good long shots on the two outside DMC-MC and the two outside AMC.

Desp
02-08-16, 08:33 PM
Up ??

scemoka
02-08-16, 09:30 PM
I deleted that file :( when i converted this tactic into [QUOTE=scemoka;278887]http://i.imgur.com/SZbG33h.png

converted conte wants scudetto into allegri backed to 352 (which i always use in full playing) : https://www.sendspace.com/file/z1nm91

and older and wide 3-5-2 which had MLC & MRC without arrow : https://www.sendspace.com/file/mb029l

Desp
03-08-16, 08:31 AM
Thanks Scemoka :)

scemoka
21-10-16, 12:37 PM
Old fashioned MM tactic is renovated. Have Fun! ;)

http://i.imgur.com/c6W3w7a.png

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ygxm22

zionmaster
21-10-16, 02:18 PM
Need some review screenshots for interesting :P

AtomicAnt
21-10-16, 08:10 PM
Tested twice with de Graafschap. 88 and 78 points.Especially impressive away in both tests!

Shambalane
22-10-16, 07:24 PM
Did half a season with barcalona odb. No losses. Really good.

Cam F
22-10-16, 07:31 PM
Cool formation. DMCs getting super powered ratings? Reminds me of oOoOo, dmcs in that had awesome ratings.

scemoka
18-11-16, 11:54 AM
First of all, big thanks to all users who mentioned this thread.
I receive so many private messages from other users who are congratulating my Ultimatum tactic. Thank you, but Ultimatum tactic is copy of Nurishi's Ultimate_Iodine with very tiny touches. No real positional changes in it. On the other side 3-3-3-1 iodine is much more original. I think 3-3-3-1 iodine is already involved in the top three iodine clones among with Tapani's 4141 tapani_iodine and iodineCF by Cam F.
Why is close to original with some positional changes?
Because it has a very nice own mixture.
At first sight it seems easy at the last moment ,.but don't forget that for it appeared after 5,5 years experience from original iodines and as its creation very long process which needs experience.

Lets look at the mixture!
Without ball top left box: It looks perfect. The credit all goes to Tapani. In this image (DR) Right Back is controlling the dead zone.
http://i.imgur.com/DDY2LUw.png
What did i change? Sleeping DR moved to AMC.
http://i.imgur.com/fuNu5dl.png And 3-3-3-1 iodine's AMC is took the position as left AMC of iodineCF by Cam F for effective pressing. http://i.imgur.com/y6GsF1L.png

At the Without ball Top Right Box did same changes, (DL) which controls the stagnant zone moved to AMC-second strikers position for effective pressing.
And the remained defenders automatically slicked to left or right occasionally.

PS: Newly 2-7-1 formations by other users not so excite me.
TRUE ORIGINAL DWS v2 by Cam F is cult and legendary tactic which is much more impressive and revolutionary than newly added ones.
Have Fun Mates!

bebetu
18-11-16, 04:34 PM
Brilliant tactic to play full mode.I can say its more efficient even than the famous original 4141 tapani iodine.Striker scores plenty,Tsigalko can score more than 30-40 per season just in serie A games with this tactic,and rest of goals are shared between other midfielders.Only complain i can tell is AMC doesnt assist as much but i think its a position issue in cm01 engine and not tactic related.
I must mention that i use a tweaked version of 3331 iodine with flat wide midfielders for more realistic module.While other tactics may be more efficient such as Ultimatum those are not realistic modules.

Nurishi
20-11-16, 07:50 PM
Thank you, but Ultimatum tactic is copy of Nurishi's Ultimate_Iodine with very tiny touches. No real positional changes in it.

Don't sell yourself short, buddy.

Going with only one central defender was a genius move, one I didn't think of at that time, plus you credited my tactic by naming it "Ultimatum".

Since the release of Tapanis masterpiece every successful tactic has borrowed from there, and that is the way it should be imo, taking the best current approach and further maximizing its power. So if you want to give credit, give it to the GOAT-tactic creator Tapani.

Going head to head with a formidable tactical mind like yours for the No.1-spot in Jesus' legendary ATL gave me the motivation to create tactics, and your excellent effort with 3331-iodine was what brought me to creating tactics in the first place tbh. Couldn't believe someone finally beat Tapani over a meaningful samplesize.

Good ol' times... too bad Jesus went AWOL, basically killing the new wave of great tactic-influx for this game off in the process...

galatius
30-11-16, 09:52 AM
So I eagerly tried out this tactic but, regrettably, it did not perform as expected (to be fair, my expectations were pretty high given what others have posted).

I played several seasons as Liverpool and was never particularly dominant, even with world class players like Gareth Bale and Ousmane Dembele. I found that it was particularly vulnerable against 4-5-1 defensive formations (and variations thereon). I had to switch from Attacking mentality to Normal to stand a chance against just about any team adopting a defensive formation which, for some reason, was just about every team in the EPL.

scemoka
06-12-16, 04:36 PM
More realistic version of Ultimatum without arrows. Left & Right centered DMCs positioned as Wing-Backs. So you can use DL-DML-DMLC's-DR-DMR-DMRCs.

http://i.imgur.com/Wb5H7mT.png

http://i.imgur.com/PJ0u9Z4.png

Occasionally you can use second striker FC/SC instead of AMC/AMFC which performs very well. Withball at the second center bottom BOX Just move AMC to forward behind the striker,so he will automatically has an arrow to forward on main view.
original form:
http://i.imgur.com/lBLT0Xk.png

with second striker: (just only one move)
http://i.imgur.com/YSWX3xp.png

https://www.sendspace.com/file/o9y0b6 have fun!

SuperStranger
06-12-16, 05:12 PM
Well scoring 101 goals whit Grapf is very good result and a tactic has a non wib wob style.

scemoka
06-12-16, 09:31 PM
MW iodine.
http://i.imgur.com/2c408Ol.png
https://www.sendspace.com/file/s5ey4a

scemoka
06-12-16, 09:34 PM
WM iodine.
http://i.imgur.com/kkOsCkk.png
https://www.sendspace.com/file/a35rrb

scemoka
06-12-16, 09:36 PM
WW iodine.
http://i.imgur.com/WVriVL9.png
https://www.sendspace.com/file/4s5bgk

Desp
07-12-16, 11:44 AM
*____*

Dermotron
07-12-16, 11:59 AM
I usually buy too many midfielders. This could be the solution to that!

AJ
07-12-16, 12:59 PM
It's pretty amazing how many clean sheets this tct produces. I have 6 in 8 games with Benfica.

JLa
07-12-16, 01:53 PM
More realistic version
1 defender! :lol:

But I love the idea, great work. :)

AtomicAnt
07-12-16, 03:09 PM
Can you make a version with fullbacks instead of DML/R and no wingers (centralize the AMR/L)?

scemoka
07-12-16, 03:42 PM
Can you make a version with fullbacks instead of DML/R and no wingers (centralize the AMR/L)?
For you! ;)
http://i.imgur.com/fGjosvQ.png
3-6-1 antoka.tct
https://www.sendspace.com/file/1xwf61
91 goals with torotest.Very very rarely see! One of Records!
http://i.imgur.com/ya4EIzX.png

AtomicAnt
07-12-16, 10:38 PM
Thank you scemoka!:clap:

Desp
08-12-16, 01:47 PM
GOOD!

dilson84
22-01-17, 07:07 PM
Old fashioned MM tactic is renovated. Have Fun! ;)

http://i.imgur.com/c6W3w7a.png

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ygxm22

It seems this tactic negates all rumours and beliefs that 3 defence and 2 striker tactics don't work well. it works wonderfully with every lower league team possible, not scoring a lot but definitely brings merits to the teams I used since it was uploaded.

scemoka
01-03-17, 12:17 PM
Our motto is...;)
Rush v2

http://i.imgur.com/VGZ7AEK.png

https://www.sendspace.com/file/bdgf4j

scemoka
19-03-17, 08:21 PM
Hi mates! Centralised 2-2-2-2 iodine is the new brother of iodine series.

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http://i.imgur.com/jYR7LgV.png
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http://i.imgur.com/7nwvyov.png
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https://www.sendspace.com/file/jcc9w4

AtomicAnt
19-03-17, 10:53 PM
Interesting! A few years ago I would never have thought a tactic like that would a chance to do well in this game.

Fitton
20-03-17, 09:59 AM
I'd like to try this tactic but the link doesn't work for me.

Can you re-upload or does someone have a link?

Has this tactic been tested?

scemoka
20-03-17, 10:30 AM
https://www.sendspace.com/file/dntsnx

Fitton
20-03-17, 10:37 AM
Thanks

uffi69
28-03-17, 08:04 PM
Hi Scemoka, can you reupload the older and wide 3-5-2 which had MLC & MRC without arrow please? Thanks

scemoka
29-03-17, 01:44 PM
Hi Scemoka, can you reupload the older and wide 3-5-2 which had MLC & MRC without arrow please? Thanks

https://www.sendspace.com/file/bbo7ho

uffi69
29-03-17, 09:03 PM
Thank you very much Scemoka

uffi69
01-04-17, 12:13 PM
WM iodine.
http://i.imgur.com/kkOsCkk.png
https://www.sendspace.com/file/a35rrb

Hi Scemoka, can you reupload it please? Thanks

scemoka
01-04-17, 11:14 PM
Hi Scemoka, can you reupload it please? Thanks

https://www.sendspace.com/file/57tm2k

uffi69
02-04-17, 10:11 AM
https://www.sendspace.com/file/57tm2k

Thank you very much Scemoka

scemoka
31-05-17, 05:06 PM
W-Run tactic is an offensive minded tactic. Two DCs, DMC and wing-backs placed as W.
W-Run 2-3-3-2 is a variation of 4132.

http://i.imgur.com/0mW87fj.png

http://i.imgur.com/tQeuIsk.png

Have Fun! ;)
https://www.sendspace.com/file/nzb7ly

Dermotron
01-06-17, 09:23 AM
Joe Hart's had a nightmare there :D

Charlie22
01-06-17, 10:39 AM
How did it perform over a season?

Got any screen shots of individual performances?

scemoka
01-06-17, 12:08 PM
How did it perform over a season?

Got any screen shots of individual performances?
Do you have any doubts? Try it!
I finished 2nd with ''torotest'' 73 points 76 goals.

ViK
01-06-17, 04:01 PM
Do you have any doubts? Try it!
I finished 2nd with ''torotest'' 73 points 76 goals.

I'll give it a try my good man. I like a formation with wingbacks, I'm a slave to trends you see :nod:

Shambalane
05-06-17, 12:52 AM
Hey Scemoka . Could you upload 1-8-1 Nurio? Please :)

scemoka
05-06-17, 08:20 AM
Hey Scemoka . Could you upload 1-8-1 Nurio? Please :)

https://www.sendspace.com/file/z9i193

Shambalane
05-06-17, 01:32 PM
Thank you! much appreciated .

ballo
09-06-17, 06:03 PM
can you reupload the link ? for th antoeka ?

scemoka
09-06-17, 07:15 PM
can you reupload the link ? for th antoeka ?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/mlib1q

tonydunne10
11-06-17, 08:04 PM
Awesome tactic.....just went season unbeaten and won everything with Liverpool:love:
Only a ropey injury time peno against Arsenal stopped me winning 38 out of 38 in league....Great spread of goals from strikers and midfield and defence was miserly also
would post screenie but have no clue!!
Great job man:rockon:

sashhead
12-06-17, 04:45 AM
Awesome tactic.....just went season unbeaten and won everything with Liverpool:love:
Only a ropey injury time peno against Arsenal stopped me winning 38 out of 38 in league....Great spread of goals from strikers and midfield and defence was miserly also
would post screenie but have no clue!!
Great job man:rockon:

Would be great to see some screenshots!

If you press print screen, go into Paint and press CTRL+V and save as PNG. Then go onto http://tinypic.com/ and upload. Then copy and paste the IMG Code for Forums & Message Boards link onto a post on here.

^Jack^
24-08-17, 11:20 PM
scemoka, can you please upload prism?

scemoka
25-08-17, 12:55 AM
scemoka, can you please upload prism?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/6wxrob

^Jack^
25-08-17, 06:55 PM
thank you, good sir!

RonanClarke
04-09-17, 01:10 PM
ok. i renovated tactic. Team passing is Mixed. ;))

https://www.sendspace.com/file/3ye4t7

Hi Scemoka

If possible can you reupload

Many thanks

scemoka
05-09-17, 03:22 PM
Hi Scemoka

If possible can you reupload

Many thanks

It was from very old thread.
In the superstranger's thread ''What tactic are you using?'' http://champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2917&p=342143#post342143
i brought all them together which i use the most. 11 tactics. I think you're asking for 3-5-2 con or 4-3-1-2 car.
Current save file 1,42gb. 2115 year.2097/98 only 1 goal conceeded with 4312 car.
http://i63.tinypic.com/n1xrx5.png
Latest current ingame tactic folder =>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/f3eutm

RonanClarke
06-09-17, 01:42 AM
Sorry Scemoka, that's my fault

It was a copy of the allegri diamond tactic that I was looking for

scemoka
06-09-17, 09:03 AM
Sorry Scemoka, that's my fault

It was a copy of the allegri diamond tactic that I was looking for

Ok. No problem, some threads are merged. At that time i renovated that tactic. 4-3-1-2 car is renovated Allegri Diamond ;)

Antitoxin_ConcealedBodkin
07-09-17, 09:29 AM
Hy Scemoka! Sorry for bothering but please re-upload your Lobanovsky tactic.
And I Search "Secret formula.tct". Please Somebody put it on.
Thank you Scemoka!

scemoka
07-09-17, 09:56 AM
Hy Scemoka! Sorry for bothering but please re-upload your Lobanovsky tactic.

Lobanovsky!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/112aum

scemoka
26-10-17, 06:20 PM
3-6-1 tactic for direct play lovers. With ball left & right DC move wider. Role of AMC is your choise. If you put Isco more assits, if you put supporting forward he score more goals. With Messi both :D

http://i65.tinypic.com/imj9km.png

http://i68.tinypic.com/tapqmh.png

Have fun! ;)
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ylz30c

Desp
26-10-17, 09:04 PM
I really like the line of three defenders. Their attacking position greatly reflects modern systems. Well done ;)

^Jack^
28-10-17, 08:52 AM
scemoka, do you have a link to latin iodine?

scemoka
28-10-17, 09:41 AM
scemoka, do you have a link to latin iodine?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/dtd0x9

George_Roberto
28-10-17, 07:54 PM
What´s your best tatic Scemoka?

scemoka
28-10-17, 11:02 PM
What´s your best tatic Scemoka?

For me quality of players and squad depht primary reflects the results, so i can't choose which is the best. Sometimes with right players 4-3-1-2 car, 3-5-2 con. 3-4-3 att can better perform than 3-3-3-1 iodine or Ultimatum. With 4-3-1-2 car i conceeded only 3 goals, autamatically undefeted. It is my record since 2001 when i started to play CM 17 years ago. First aim of the game is to purchase better players, tactics are second. All high ranking tactics in tables OTL-ATL-Revamp TL have short passing which works in holdiday mode, but in full play mode this is different. I always look at how many my DCs pass-touch the ball during first half, if lots of passes, i switch team passing from short to direct or on occasion individually long, certainly this makes more goal attemps.

scemoka
04-11-17, 06:30 PM
https://www.sendspace.com/file/y6purv 4141 dna.

Antitoxin_ConcealedBodkin
07-11-17, 03:33 PM
hy scemoka. excuse me for bothering. I like your tactics. I did not play all of them. Do you have a counter attacking tactic (lots of goals score, few goals get)? thank you for answer! :)

scemoka
07-11-17, 09:59 PM
hy scemoka. excuse me for bothering. I like your tactics. I did not play all of them. Do you have a counter attacking tactic (lots of goals score, few goals get)? thank you for answer! :)

Unfortunately i don't have. In team instructions counter attacks never works. Latest 4-1-4-1 dna few goals concede. You can buy forwards with acceleration-pace around 18-20 and other all players pacey above 15, than imagine that your team counter attacks. :D Dreaming is happiness. :D

marc1986
12-02-18, 04:04 PM
Hi Scemoka

Lovely stuff you share !! How does your 2-6-2 rst and Lobanovsky look?

best regards

scemoka
12-02-18, 04:31 PM
Hi Scemoka

Lovely stuff you share !! How does your 2-6-2 rst and Lobanovsky look?

best regards

7-8 months ago i sent via PM you modified Minusmf's tactic as Lobanovsky. Today i shared again in RVL. Lobanovsky looks classsic 4132 with direct passing.
GK,,,,,,,,,,,,DL-DC-DC-DR full backs arrowed,,,,,,,,,,,DMC arrowed,,,,,,,,,,,MC-MC-MC all arrowed,,,,,,,,,,,SC-SC.

2-6-2 rst is a copy of MM rst tactic. Wib and WOb almost same with MM_rst. In 2-6-2 rst at overview screen AML-AMC-AMR of MM rst are positioned as arrowed ML-MC-MR and DMC to DC.
And it gains better results than MM rst. As i said before in greek save more midfielders works better than attanking midfielders. But MM rst is honest tactic and works excellent. ;)

uffi69
16-02-18, 05:58 PM
Hi Scemoka, can you reupload MM iodine and Rush V2, please? Thanks

scemoka
16-02-18, 07:14 PM
Hi Scemoka, can you reupload MM iodine and Rush V2, please? Thanks

Here is rushv2 => https://www.sendspace.com/file/4hqobb

Are you sure do you want older MM iodine which is modified iodine? => https://www.sendspace.com/file/ahu6xa
MM rst is symmettric ;) with better results... => https://www.sendspace.com/file/minvva
In MM rst ovierview two DMCs don't exist, instead of two DMC it has two MC. But these MCs have not arrows to forward, so you can comfortably use Gattuso,Vieria etc in MC position ;)

uffi69
17-02-18, 11:30 AM
Here is rushv2 => https://www.sendspace.com/file/4hqobb

Are you sure do you want older MM iodine which is modified iodine? => https://www.sendspace.com/file/ahu6xa
MM rst is symmettric ;) with better results... => https://www.sendspace.com/file/minvva
In MM rst ovierview two DMCs don't exist, instead of two DMC it has two MC. But these MCs have not arrows to forward, so you can comfortably use Gattuso,Vieria etc in MC position ;)


Here is rushv2 => https://www.sendspace.com/file/4hqobb

Are you sure do you want older MM iodine which is modified iodine? => https://www.sendspace.com/file/ahu6xa
MM rst is symmettric ;) with better results... => https://www.sendspace.com/file/minvva
In MM rst ovierview two DMCs don't exist, instead of two DMC it has two MC. But these MCs have not arrows to forward, so you can comfortably use Gattuso,Vieria etc in MC position ;)

thank you very much scemoka for your quick reply and for sharing your tactics. I asked you to share your rush v2 and your old MM iodine because my aim is building a 4-2-3-1 tactic where DL and DR have forward arrows, with two DMC with forward arrows and AML AMR AMC with forward arrows too. but my big problem is that I'm not a tactic master and the only way to build my own tactic is stealing parts of the tactics of tactic masters like you and fit as well as I can in my tactic. For example at the moment I took the FC from 4141 Tapani iodine (striker i need passing), the AML and AMR from DWSv2, the four defenders from your 4141 dna where I put just two notch forward the DR in the first left WIB corner and just two notch forward the DL in the first right WIB corner in order to have DL and DR forward arrowed. for the two DMCs I thinked that your old MM iodine fits perfectly but if you have a better solution ever with two DMCs forward arrowed I'm open to any idea. In the end I have a question for you. for the AMC forward arrowed role which performs better between your Rush v2, your 3-3-3-1 iodine or your 3-3-3-1 bie?

uffi69
17-02-18, 11:37 AM
I forgot to tell you that I play the 3.9.68 version (no Tapani patch) with the 3.9.60 DB

^Jack^
17-02-18, 11:59 AM
thank you very much scemoka for your quick reply and for sharing your tactics. I asked you to share your rush v2 and your old MM iodine because my aim is building a 4-2-3-1 tactic where DL and DR have forward arrows, with two DMC with forward arrows and AML AMR AMC with forward arrows too. but my big problem is that I'm not a tactic master and the only way to build my own tactic is stealing parts of the tactics of tactic masters like you and fit as well as I can in my tactic. For example at the moment I took the FC from 4141 Tapani iodine (striker i need passing), the AML and AMR from DWSv2, the four defenders from your 4141 dna where I put just two notch forward the DR in the first left WIB corner and just two notch forward the DL in the first right WIB corner in order to have DL and DR forward arrowed. for the two DMCs I thinked that your old MM iodine fits perfectly but if you have a better solution ever with two DMCs forward arrowed I'm open to any idea. In the end I have a question for you. for the AMC forward arrowed role which performs better between your Rush v2, your 3-3-3-1 iodine or your 3-3-3-1 bie?


mixing parts of various tactics doesn't necessarily produce a quality tactic.
you'd be better off picking one tactic that suits your idea best and building your own tactic upon it.

scemoka
17-02-18, 12:10 PM
In the end I have a question for you. for the AMC forward arrowed role which performs better between your Rush v2, your 3-3-3-1 iodine or your 3-3-3-1 bie?
3-3-3-1 iodine and 3-3-3-1 bie was same and its AMC better performs than Rushv2. In main game folder i have obsession all tactics except Lobanovsky and christmas tree named with tree letters (con,gua,car, dna, tot, frw). Now i use 3-3-3-1 rst which is symmetric. ;)

uffi69
18-02-18, 11:29 AM
3-3-3-1 iodine and 3-3-3-1 bie was same and its AMC better performs than Rushv2. In main game folder i have obsession all tactics except Lobanovsky and christmas tree named with tree letters (con,gua,car, dna, tot, frw). Now i use 3-3-3-1 rst which is symmetric. ;)

Hi scemoka, can you upload your 3-3-3-1 rst, please? I don't find it in the tactic.rar that I downloaded from this thread. Many thanks

uffi69
18-02-18, 11:34 AM
mixing parts of various tactics doesn't necessarily produce a quality tactic.
you'd be better off picking one tactic that suits your idea best and building your own tactic upon it.

I'm completely accord with you about mixing parts of various tactics and its final result, but even if I could find a tactic that suits my football idea I'm not so good in making tactic at the moment in order to make my tactic and produce a quality tactic with good performances

^Jack^
18-02-18, 12:34 PM
I'm completely accord with you about mixing parts of various tactics and its final result, but even if I could find a tactic that suits my football idea I'm not so good in making tactic at the moment in order to make my tactic and produce a quality tactic with good performances

since you're trying to build a 4231, you could use faz44's genius steals which is the best placed 4231 tactic in the RTL and one of my favorite OTL tactics as your foundation.
it's tight defensively, but scores only a 61,43 goals average. maybe you could improve the offense by using scemoka's 3331 iodine, the offensive 4 players in that tactic are positioned similarly as in genius steals.
it would be great to see more 4 defender tactics reach the RTL top 20.


https://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/LSIzvR10%2Ftp6OmP6Jkwnkg

scemoka
18-02-18, 06:51 PM
Hi scemoka, can you upload your 3-3-3-1 rst, please? I don't find it in the tactic.rar that I downloaded from this thread. Many thanks
It is already in RTL tactic pack and here ;) https://www.sendspace.com/file/q2f27u

uffi69
19-02-18, 09:39 AM
since you're trying to build a 4231, you could use faz44's genius steals which is the best placed 4231 tactic in the RTL and one of my favorite OTL tactics as your foundation.
it's tight defensively, but scores only a 61,43 goals average. maybe you could improve the offense by using scemoka's 3331 iodine, the offensive 4 players in that tactic are positioned similarly as in genius steals.
it would be great to see more 4 defender tactics reach the RTL top 20.


https://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/LSIzvR10%2Ftp6OmP6Jkwnkg

Many tthanks Jack for your suggestion about Faz's tactic but my aim isn't to make a great tactic for testing or to reach the top positions of RTL. I would create a great tactic for full playing mode and I saw that there are many differences between tactics that reach the top positions of RTL and tactics that make great results in normal mode. For example I made a 4-3-3 that fails miserably in RTL tests but gives me lots of satisfactions in full playing mode. Anyway yesterday I changed my idea and i made my 4-2-1-2-1 very offensive with very advanced defenders in order to have the max pressing possible (I hope my opponents don't use counter attack :) lol )

uffi69
19-02-18, 09:46 AM
It is already in RTL tactic pack and here ;) https://www.sendspace.com/file/q2f27u

thank you very much scemoka.

Yesterday I changed my idea and i made my 4-2-1-2-1 very offensive with very advanced defenders in order to have the max pressing possible. It's a symmetric tactic and play with direct passing. If you have time could you take a look at this tactic and give me a feedback? It's important for me to have a feedback from a tactic master like you. many thanks

https://www.sendspace.com/file/aqt6e0

scemoka
20-02-18, 03:47 PM
thank you very much scemoka.

Yesterday I changed my idea and i made my 4-2-1-2-1 very offensive with very advanced defenders in order to have the max pressing possible. It's a symmetric tactic and play with direct passing. If you have time could you take a look at this tactic and give me a feedback? It's important for me to have a feedback from a tactic master like you. many thanks

https://www.sendspace.com/file/aqt6e0
Hi uffi69. Thanks for your praising words but i think you are master too. You made a grat tactic which has direct passing, i tried several times with torosest as fullplay and holiday greek save save.
http://i67.tinypic.com/kar9mw.png
Nothing to do. The only change that i can say, WOB- at top second box-- you can place your two AMCs sensitively make wider only one notch, that gives the tactic in overwiew
integrity. Because your AMCs non-wib-wobbed so you move only one notch in one box. After than they(AMCs) won't look pale.
Again i say. Great tactic. ;)

uffi69
22-02-18, 10:41 AM
Many thanks scemoka for testing my tactic. I'm very happy for the results my tactic achieved especially because i think I'm a noob in making tactic.

By the way following your suggestion in order to give more integrity to my tactic I decided to focus my attention on the two amcs and wibwob them a bit in quite every box but without making big changes. and this is it https://www.sendspace.com/file/2td7zo

If you have some free time i'm very grateful to you if you take a look at it. thank you very much

scemoka
22-02-18, 05:09 PM
By the way following your suggestion in order to give more integrity to my tactic I decided to focus my attention on the two amcs and wibwob them a bit in quite every box but without making big changes. and this is it https://www.sendspace.com/file/2td7zo

If you have some free time i'm very grateful to you if you take a look at it. thank you very much

I looked at the new one. In the new one AMCs wob move much more. In addition at the bottom center box they all centered (suicide) and this drop their attacking power. You did much more changes almost 50-60 notches. Sincerely i liked the first one much more. First one did not need any changes. During defence AMCs wob sensitively only one notch wider at the top central midfield box. During attack opposite AMC two notches wider at the top side boxes, put him on penalty point, for the reason of opposite AMC kept interior rather than SC.
Total of 3 notches changed each AMC. => https://www.sendspace.com/file/tjfzfg

uffi69
24-02-18, 11:00 AM
Hi scemoka, thanks for your suggestions. I revert back to the first version of my tactic and added the changes you suggested me in 4-2-1-2-1a. you are right, the two amcs all centered at the bottom center box is a suicide. they scores considerably less in full playing mode. many thanks

uffi69
13-03-18, 08:06 PM
Hi scemoka, sorry for my request of help but I think you are the best choice to help me in developing my tactic. I suppose you are involved in building a 4-3-3 for GFRay's contest but if you will have some free time I hope you can help me. this is the tactic https://www.sendspace.com/file/t02jkh
my request of help is about the 2 DCs, the 3 DMCs and the 2 MCs because i'm satisfied for the keeper, the striker and the 2 AMCs even if not at all about the AMCs. Many thanks

scemoka
14-03-18, 02:26 PM
Hi scemoka, sorry for my request of help but I think you are the best choice to help me in developing my tactic. I suppose you are involved in building a 4-3-3 for GFRay's contest but if you will have some free time I hope you can help me. this is the tactic https://www.sendspace.com/file/t02jkh
my request of help is about the 2 DCs, the 3 DMCs and the 2 MCs because i'm satisfied for the keeper, the striker and the 2 AMCs even if not at all about the AMCs. Many thanks
Hi uffi69! Look at this >> https://www.sendspace.com/file/jwhlly

uffi69
16-03-18, 06:28 PM
Hi uffi69! Look at this >> https://www.sendspace.com/file/jwhlly

Hi scemoka, thank you very much for the tactic, i tested it in full playing mode and works great.
Con i ask you to reupload your 1-8-1 nurio? I would like to test it in full playing mode with lower league teams and see how it performs. Many thanks

scemoka
17-03-18, 09:44 AM
Con i ask you to reupload your 1-8-1 nurio? I would like to test it in full playing mode with lower league teams and see how it performs. Many thanks
https://www.sendspace.com/file/2r4o85

Coupsta
19-04-18, 01:44 PM
Hello is there any chance of re-uploading your ultimatium tactic please :)

GFRay
19-04-18, 01:53 PM
Hello is there any chance of re-uploading your ultimatium tactic please :)

This one is also in the ATL Tactics pack you can find and download here: https://champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10031.

scemoka
19-04-18, 03:30 PM
Hello is there any chance of re-uploading your ultimatium tactic please :)


This one is also in the ATL Tactics pack you can find and download here: https://champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10031.

Big thanks to GFRay for sharing the links.
Hi Coupsta, do you really want to use ultimatum? It has arrowed centralised GDO wingers (they are wingers only at overview), in fact they are AMLC-AMRC at wib-wob, they are not pure wide wingers or real wingbacks, so it is hard to select suitable players for full-play.

Coupsta
19-04-18, 04:24 PM
Thanks guys :) i just fancied taking a look at the tactic, not sure about using it now haha

feyezuid
26-04-18, 06:40 PM
Just played my second season with 2-6-2 rst, it is just unreal, an average of more than 5 goals per match.
http://i63.tinypic.com/2u60k6s.png

Played Bruggink as the central midfielder with arrow forward, check out the assists
http://i68.tinypic.com/f4eedj.png

And well, the obvious ODB strike force, but working together as well, new for me.
http://i65.tinypic.com/35cfnrs.png

http://i68.tinypic.com/25i0svk.png

GFRay
26-04-18, 06:42 PM
http://i63.tinypic.com/2u60k6s.pngWhich tactic did you use ?

feyezuid
26-04-18, 07:01 PM
Which tactic did you use ?

2-6-2 rst

scemoka
26-04-18, 07:34 PM
Under ODB with Bruggink, with bug To Maderia and with bug Tsigalko not so difficult to score such more goals. ;) Its wingers GDO (ML-MR wingers in overview,in fact wib AMLC-AMRC) too. Instead of 2-6-2 rst i use MM jst which i edited and gave more symmetry -TESTIRANJE by ^^Jack^^ in my main game folder. Much more honest, AML-AMR-AMC positioned in natural own positions, and this is the most offensive realistic tactic.

scemoka
07-05-18, 09:43 AM
As of 12 april 2018 i updated my full-play tactics.



4-2-4 frw : It is very high scoring tactic with wide forwards. In my career with mediocrate St-Etienne i broke scoring records, every year around 110 goals.

3-4-3 att : This is very good tactic,wide offensive modified Nagoya Grampus. If you don't like this, you can use ^Jack^s first 3-4-3 from RVL pack. (His second which got 0,5 points
more is GDO, not clean 343)

4-3-3 era : This is very good and very original 433 tactic. %95 from tactic which i released for 433 contest.

3-3-3-1 gua: This was 3331 iodine laterly more symmetric 3331_rst. Nothing to say! TOP 20 tactic.

MM: This is MM-jst. edited 2-6-2 rst and Testiranje. Most scoring in RVL table.

Lobanovsky : Latest Lobanovsky_4 with direct passing, very solid, concedes around 21 in RVL. Great for full-play.

4-4-2 tot : Another completely new tactic. Very good for full-play, solid.

3-5-2 con: Tactic which i played most, which i edited most. (one MC arrowed 3-5-2 cla is best realistic 352 too, from RVL pack)

4-2-3-1 mod : Very very good tactic. Modified 442_tapani_6e symmetrically. success guaranteed.

4-1-4-1 dna : Modified symetrically 4141 tapani iodine with the help of Superstranger. Solid of the solidest.

4-3-1-2 car : Carlo Ancelotti used this at Juventus and Milan. (Zidane-Kaka). I love Nagoya Grampus tactic's offensive -full backs, i modified it to 4312. Go to page 4 to
see my life record. connceed only 1 goal with this super tactic.

christmas tree : Modified Nagoya Grampus. I said before and repeat again. My love. Until i die, i will use it. :D

Have Fun! ;) => https://www.sendspace.com/file/lnas5z

Desp
07-05-18, 12:18 PM
4312 car & Christmas tree <3
The Best of Carlo Ancelotti

Scemoka, could you do the 3511 of Simone Inzaghi of Lazio?

Dublin
07-05-18, 12:21 PM
Thanks

piotrrybak
07-05-18, 05:56 PM
Hi Scemoka quick question: how is 4-1-4-1 dna different from 4141 tapani_iodine? Defense better or worst? Thanks for creating so many tactics :)

GFRay
07-05-18, 06:06 PM
I really like the 4-3-1-2 car and christmas tree so I decided to test them. I've tested both tactics with normal and attacking mentality. Here's how they scored:


https://s26.postimg.cc/vbf08bu09/scemoka.png (https://postimages.org/)


Funny enough both tactics score better with a normal mentality than with a attacking mentality (slightly though) which is weird. You would expect the attacking versions to score and concede more, but this is not the case. Both score very decent and I've been using the christmas tree version on my Man Utd save with great success. This tactic can be used as plug and play, but when you switch mentalities at the right time you'll find that you can win almost any game. I usually start with attacking and when I score once or twice I switch back to normal and usually score more. When I'm not creating much chances or when I'm shooting a lot off target I also switch back to normal and usually get the goals to fall.

scemoka
07-05-18, 09:51 PM
Hi Scemoka quick question: how is 4-1-4-1 dna different from 4141 tapani_iodine? Defense better or worst? Thanks for creating so many tactics :)

According to RVL table 4141 tapani_iodine concedes 20,63, 4141 dna 17,81. In full play very solid too. Even mediocre squad can win easily, you need only good SC nothhing anymore.
Without ball down mid box two MCs placed similar like default DMC, they are helping defense ,and this drops a littler their attacking power. But it is not a big problem. This tactic's main aim is to conceede less goals.

1369phil
09-05-18, 08:47 AM
Great work - I'm trying many of your tactics and love them all. 262 got me to 29 games unbeaten in the league, first season.

Next up is 4141dna

The link for the larger .sav files doesn't work - it says "the free service is at capacity" - I would love to try some more!

uffi69
09-05-18, 09:48 AM
Hi scemoka, i like very much your tactics and use them in full play mode especially 4312car and 4141dna are my preferred tactics. I would ask you if it is possible for you to create a wibwob version of the GFRay's tactic that wins the NWW contest without any arrow, symmetrical, that concedes low goals (avg. 18-22) and the lone SC assisted by the AMC scores like never before for full play mode and that suite at any level especially with lower league teams with crappy players .thanks

GFRay
09-05-18, 09:51 AM
Hi scemoka, i like very much your tactics and use them in full play mode especially 4312car and 4141dna are my preferred tactics. I would ask you if it is possible for you to create a wibwob version of the GFRay's tactic that wins the NWW contest without any arrow, symmetrical and that concedes low goals (avg. 18-22) for full play mode.thanks

I've been trying this myself for a while now, but haven't succeeded so if you can make it happen I'll be happy too! :D

uffi69
09-05-18, 10:38 AM
Also with 3 at the back would be great!! like 3-2-3-1-1

scemoka
09-05-18, 10:44 AM
Hi scemoka, i like very much your tactics and use them in full play mode especially 4312car and 4141dna are my preferred tactics. I would ask you if it is possible for you to create a wibwob version of the GFRay's tactic that wins the NWW contest without any arrow, symmetrical, that concedes low goals (avg. 18-22) and the lone SC assisted by the AMC scores like never before for full play mode and that suite at any level especially with lower league teams with crappy players .thanks

Hi uffi69. Thanks for your praising words. Yes... 4141_dna solid of solidest... Almost all of them strong in full-play. And 4-3-1-2 car has a special situation. You can not understand its power in holiday mode. Here AMC is brain of the team. The cue point is you need AMC with high creativity. 20 creativity is always not enough. When buying AMC from your opponents,from lower legues or from othem legues, you should look at match stats. If he passes in each game around 100 times, he is the right player. 17-18 years i'm playing this game. My life record ever with this tactic ,conceede only one goal. This is not success of only defenders, my AMC passed each game more than 100 at opposition half. This redoubles its power. If always prefer my attacking players passes at front side much more than my DC-DMC-DCs pass between each other.

Near future i can do GFRay's NWW winning tactic. But temporary you can use Lobanovsky. It is very solid. MLC-MRC has not arrows, central MC have AMC role. Very closer to your demandings ;)

scemoka
09-05-18, 11:01 AM
Also with 3 at the back would be great!! like 3-2-3-1-1

Pipedown27 made 3-2-4-1 tactic like this. Very solid. If you have obsession like me ''3 backed tactics must have wide wingers'', just wib at mid second down and mid-second upper boxes make its wingers two notches wider each. 4 boxes, total of 8 notches. In full play you won't feel this change ,even when you use real wingers would be better. On holiday mode 0,5-1 point drops RVL table result. It is not important for me.

uffi69
09-05-18, 05:40 PM
Hi uffi69. Thanks for your praising words. Yes... 4141_dna solid of solidest... Almost all of them strong in full-play. And 4-3-1-2 car has a special situation. You can not understand its power in holiday mode. Here AMC is brain of the team. The cue point is you need AMC with high creativity. 20 creativity is always not enough. When buying AMC from your opponents,from lower legues or from othem legues, you should look at match stats. If he passes in each game around 100 times, he is the right player. 17-18 years i'm playing this game. My life record ever with this tactic ,conceede only one goal. This is not success of only defenders, my AMC passed each game more than 100 at opposition half. This redoubles its power. If always prefer my attacking players passes at front side much more than my DC-DMC-DCs pass between each other.

Near future i can do GFRay's NWW winning tactic. But temporary you can use Lobanovsky. It is very solid. MLC-MRC has not arrows, central MC have AMC role. Very closer to your demandings ;)

Thank you very much scemoka for your suggests about 4-3-1-2car. i'll probably use lobanovsky but i think i'll edit it a little bit to fit better my football idea.

uffi69
09-05-18, 05:44 PM
Pipedown27 made 3-2-4-1 tactic like this. Very solid. If you have obsession like me ''3 backed tactics must have wide wingers'', just wib at mid second down and mid-second upper boxes make its wingers two notches wider each. 4 boxes, total of 8 notches. In full play you won't feel this change ,even when you use real wingers would be better. On holiday mode 0,5-1 point drops RVL table result. It is not important for me.

thanks scemoka for this suggestion i'll try this tactic too. no obsession for wide wingers, i prefer use mlc-mrc like in your lobanovsky tactic

Stanimir
12-05-18, 05:29 PM
2-6-2 rstWill a photo with the players' placement


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Stanimir
12-05-18, 05:30 PM
2-6-2 rstWill a photo with the players' placement

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Stanimir
12-05-18, 05:33 PM
Just played my second season with 2-6-2 rst, it is just unreal, an average of more than 5 goals per match.
http://i63.tinypic.com/2u60k6s.png

Played Bruggink as the central midfielder with arrow forward, check out the assists
http://i68.tinypic.com/f4eedj.png

And well, the obvious ODB strike force, but working together as well, new for me.
http://i65.tinypic.com/35cfnrs.png

http://i68.tinypic.com/25i0svk.pngWill a photo with the players' placement

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RayRayDK
29-08-18, 10:28 AM
Hi Scemoka..

Do you have a solid tactic laying around with a 4-2-1-3 ?
with 2 CM, 1 AM and 3 SC

I found Iodine433 - but here i have this DM, which i dont need :D

Ray.

scemoka
29-08-18, 11:08 AM
Hi Scemoka..

Do you have a solid tactic laying around with a 4-2-1-3 ?
with 2 CM, 1 AM and 3 SC

I found Iodine433 - but here i have this DM, which i dont need :D

Ray.

Try this => https://www.sendspace.com/file/bwkpur mate! ;)

RayRayDK
29-08-18, 01:31 PM
Try this => https://www.sendspace.com/file/bwkpur mate! ;)

Thanks buddy!
Will let you know out come soon :)

/ray.

aim-11
22-09-18, 08:15 AM
bro scemoka, which of your tactics is good for wingers (full play)?

scemoka
22-09-18, 12:09 PM
bro scemoka, which of your tactics is good for wingers (full play)?

All tactics (4141 dna, MM, 3331 gua,442 tot,4231 mod,424 frw,433 era,343 att) are good for wingers except Lobanovsky which has full backs.
352 con, Christmas tree and 4312 car, has no wingers but very effective wingbacks.

aaronl
15-10-18, 04:18 PM
Could you reupload 2-6-2 rst please? I'd like to give it a try but can't find it anywhere

scemoka
17-10-18, 08:19 AM
Could you reupload 2-6-2 rst please? I'd like to give it a try but can't find it anywhere

https://www.sendspace.com/file/wltidb

uffi69
22-10-18, 04:52 PM
Hi Scemoka, is it possible for you to mix yours 4141dna and 4231mod in order to create a 4-1-1-3-1 very solid at the back and very good at scoring goals at the same time? The best is with direct passing instead of The classic short passing. Thank you very much

scemoka
22-10-18, 07:37 PM
Hi Scemoka, is it possible for you to mix yours 4141dna and 4231mod in order to create a 4-1-1-3-1 very solid at the back and very good at scoring goals at the same time? The best is with direct passing instead of The classic short passing. Thank you very much

Of course possible. Under your suggestion 3 central midfielders will be positioned like tower as Deep DMC, mid MC, high AMC. Direct team passing always good for full-play which i constantly use in Lobanovsky tactic. In the other tactics i always switch team passing from short to direct at 30th minute when DC_DC-DMC annoyable pass 30 or more/per each too.

Here => https://www.sendspace.com/file/j0j8td

uffi69
23-10-18, 08:51 PM
Hi Scemoka, I just tested your 4-1-1-3-1 and it's fantastic. Very simmetrically and The players 's instructions are exactly what i'm looking for too. So many thanks. Just one question. If i want The DMC without arrow (I hate arrows) in which box/boxes i have to put the DMC one/few notches lower? Thank you very much

scemoka
23-10-18, 11:30 PM
Hi Scemoka, I just tested your 4-1-1-3-1 and it's fantastic. Very simmetrically and The players 's instructions are exactly what i'm looking for too. So many thanks. Just one question. If i want The DMC without arrow (I hate arrows) in which box/boxes i have to put the DMC one/few notches lower? Thank you very much

You have very interesting obsession hating arrows :D.
Ok. Very hard to say in which boxes DMC getting lower wib, because at least in 5 boxes need to get lower in order to remove the arrow.
I touched a little again. Wib top center box lowered until DMC got default, Top left-right boxes one notch lower, top second right*left boxes again lowered until default.
But this will a few drops attacking power but not soo much, because you have direct play.
Here => https://www.sendspace.com/file/v8r7rn

baw
24-10-18, 11:21 AM
Hi scemoka,
@GFRay told me you're very good at creating new tactics so if you have time, I'd like to ask you a favor.
Could you create a WIBWOB tactic similar to that used by Sarri in Chelsea (Sarri-ball)?

Thanks in advance mate

scemoka
24-10-18, 12:05 PM
Hi scemoka,
@GFRay told me you're very good at creating new tactics so if you have time, I'd like to ask you a favor.
Could you create a WIBWOB tactic similar to that used by Sarri in Chelsea (Sarri-ball)?

Thanks in advance mate
You can easily use 4-3-3 era or christmas tree as Sarri-Ball. Both tactics works great in full-play, in these tactics wib central DMC (regista), and central MC(regista) are behind MLC-MRCs (mezzala). Just buy flaired and technique players with high creativity. If you want different formation as Sarri-Ball in which DL-DR upper as DML-DMR or something extra, we can modify it again.

Ps: Almost all succesful tactics in this forum even under in different formations similar to Sarri's or Guardiola's play. Almost all of them use short passing, offside-trap, mentality attack, pressing and no use man behind ball.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/brv57t
https://www.sendspace.com/file/083gte

baw
24-10-18, 04:12 PM
@scemoka thank you so much

uffi69
25-10-18, 09:35 AM
You have very interesting obsession hating arrows :D.
Ok. Very hard to say in which boxes DMC getting lower wib, because at least in 5 boxes need to get lower in order to remove the arrow.
I touched a little again. Wib top center box lowered until DMC got default, Top left-right boxes one notch lower, top second right*left boxes again lowered until default.
But this will a few drops attacking power but not soo much, because you have direct play.
Here => https://www.sendspace.com/file/v8r7rn

Hi Scemoka, first of all thank you very much for all your efforts. I know I have a problem with arrows in wibwob tactics ;). After I tested both your tactics a little more in depth finally i chosen the one with arrowed DMC because it is more consistant and scores more goals even if in both the tactics I noticed that the lone stricker doesn't score as I expect. Normally the lone stricker in wibwob tactics scores about one goal per game or more, but with your tactics the stricker scores about one goal per 1.5 game. I don't know if it depends from the tactic or I simply chosen the wrong strickers for these tactics

scemoka
25-10-18, 04:38 PM
Totaly new tactic!
https://i.postimg.cc/wMbFfLKG/triplex.png

It is for full-play! Not for holidaying! The main aim of this tactic is more attempts.
Tried and made some changes so many times again and again for getting more goal attempts during matches, and gained.
Minimum 15+ attemps in every game! 25-30 sometimes 40 attemps over weak teams.
Even after you won 1-0, you receive message '' X match pleases board'', '' Board delighted after X game''
Have fun! ;)
=> [https://www.sendspace.com/file/lfrgzm

uffi69
16-11-18, 10:43 AM
Hi Scemoka, is it possible to mix yours 4-1-4-1 dna, christmas tree and triplex in order to create a very solid plain 4-3-3 without arrows for full play with direct passing? It would be perfect if the dl/dr run and make cross and defend like marcelo (for example), the central mc makes assists and defend like pirlo, the others two mc play and score like pogba or milinkovic-savic, the central striker score like icardi and the others two strikers score and make asissts like manč-salah. Many thanks and sorry for my request.

scemoka
16-11-18, 01:15 PM
Hi Scemoka, is it possible to mix yours 4-1-4-1 dna, christmas tree and triplex in order to create a very solid plain 4-3-3 without arrows for full play with direct passing? It would be perfect if the dl/dr run and make cross and defend like marcelo (for example), the central mc makes assists and defend like pirlo, the others two mc play and score like pogba or milinkovic-savic, the central striker score like icardi and the others two strikers score and make asissts like manč-salah. Many thanks and sorry for my request.

I think christmas tree which based on Nagoya Grampus is very solid & scores too much in full-play. (this tactic is... my love).
5 posts above, i put post to Baw another 4-3-3 (4-3-3 era) which is based on 4-1-4-1 dna. This is very very good tactic too with offensive wingbacks.
As your request, here is the new 433 without arrows.
This is wib fully based on christras tree, wob based on 4312car (in which i edited 3 MLC-MC-MRC more moves,more pressing wob for solidity) and wob 3 FLC-SC-FRC from Triplex.
Ps: For less conceeding tactic you must use short passing, if you have less attempts (sometimes it can be infertile games) or your 2 DC passing too much between each other, switch to team mentality attack, and let the team direct passing.
;) Try it => https://www.sendspace.com/file/qetam5

uffi69
16-11-18, 03:04 PM
I think christmas tree which based on Nagoya Grampus is very solid & scores too much in full-play. (this tactic is... my love).
5 posts above, i put post to Baw another 4-3-3 (4-3-3 era) which is based on 4-1-4-1 dna. This is very very good tactic too with offensive wingbacks.
As your request, here is the new 433 without arrows.
This is wib fully based on christras tree, wob based on 4312car (in which i edited 3 MLC-MC-MRC more moves,more pressing wob for solidity) and wob 3 FLC-SC-FRC from Triplex.
Ps: For less conceeding tactic you must use short passing, if you have less attempts (sometimes it can be infertile games) or your 2 DC passing too much between each other, switch to team mentality attack, and let the team direct passing.
;) Try it => https://www.sendspace.com/file/qetam5

thank you very much Scemoka, I'll give it a try today. best regards

Offside Trap
17-11-18, 12:14 PM
Rookie question here but hopefully, I'll be clearer about something

I've now seen on the SV6, you can load preset tactics, am I right in saying, that its a case of, I can load any tactic that the AI can use? is that the basics of it? 4,5,1 Norway etc.. some are WW some are NWW, but basically, I've this concept of a level playing field, and although the the WW on some of these are not great, I still get hacked off when AI use them against me, so was thinking, if I only use preset tactics, it will be the exact same as AI

Thanks in advance

scemoka
17-11-18, 01:17 PM
Rookie question here but hopefully, I'll be clearer about something

I've now seen on the SV6, you can load preset tactics, am I right in saying, that its a case of, I can load any tactic that the AI can use? is that the basics of it? 4,5,1 Norway etc.. some are WW some are NWW, but basically, I've this concept of a level playing field, and although the the WW on some of these are not great, I still get hacked off when AI use them against me, so was thinking, if I only use preset tactics, it will be the exact same as AI

Thanks in advance




Yess! I am always open to every ideas.
Everyone has own Personal managerial habits/rules.
Someone uses preset tactics (in it some wib/wob edited tactics as you say), someone uses only default tactics,someone uses only his own tactics, someone uses tactics created by others, someone edits preset tactics in order to AI teams got stronger, someones uses only nonwib/nonwob tactics without any manuel move even 1 notch, someone uses all of them together.
Personally i use 11-12 tactics which edited from my game folder and sometimes in different careers i use Nonwib-nonwib tactics by changing team instructions and arrows.
I don't like like some preset tactics => For example defensive_counter... 10 players are default but one striker is edited, bolder in overview.
I like all-edited and i like all non edited even 1 notch not changed. As i said before this my personal choise and i respect everyones own habits.

Offside Trap
17-11-18, 01:28 PM
For me, I always believe it should be a level playing field, so if you're gonna play WW, then you should have AI Harder Tactics implemented, but then I don't use them, and I see mid-game they're using WW against me, it really hacks me off (I rage)

So is that the case, in respect of, that all presets are that of the AI can choose from?

I recall someone saying, it's possible to make a selection of tactics, lets say 11-12 like you, and make it, that the AI can only use them too aswell as yourself, but I recall also, something about they have to be named specific or something like that

GFRay
17-11-18, 01:55 PM
If you load the preset tactics that have wibwob and you go to the WOB and WIB screens you will see that it's not that good wibwobbed. So I don't worry when the AI plays wibwob against me because it's bad wibwob anyway :lol:

scemoka
17-11-18, 02:11 PM
If you load the preset tactics that have wibwob and you go to the WOB and WIB screens you will see that it's not that good wibwobbed. So I don't worry when the AI plays wibwob against me because it's bad wibwob anyway :lol:
Absolutely you are rigtht. AI uses bad wibwob against us. :)

In the other case, we can improve the game. Big thanks to GFRay we have RTL Table. With the suggestions of well-respected users such as GFRay, AtomicAnt, ^Jack^, Dermotron, CamF, Info0, Desp, Samsami (he already created his own selection preset tactics) , Vik, Faceless, Zionmaster and minusmf; we can select 20-30 tactics for integrating to game, make avaible for usage AI teams.

Offside Trap
17-11-18, 02:40 PM
If you load the preset tactics that have wibwob and you go to the WOB and WIB screens you will see that it's not that good wibwobbed. So I don't worry when the AI plays wibwob against me because it's bad wibwob anyway :lol:

Yeah, I know they're not too clever with WW-ing tactics, but is it possible, to ensure all presets can change? as in, my own selected tactics, that AI will have/only have access to?

uffi69
19-11-18, 06:14 PM
Hi Smemoka, can you reupload your mushroom.tct and can you tell me if the three strikers work better in your mushroom.tct or in your triplex.tct? many thanks

scemoka
19-11-18, 06:59 PM
Hi Smemoka, can you reupload your mushroom.tct and can you tell me if the three strikers work better in your mushroom.tct or in your triplex.tct? many thanks

Although Mushroom has very good results in RTL, all out attack tactics like Mushroom, Prism, Rush, Rushv2 etc... work good in full-play occasionally, 2nd half or when you have losing no more, with these tactics you need at least 14-15 (AML-AMR-FC-FLC-FRC) players with reserves. Triplex better in full-play, caz in the whole squaad 8-10 offensive players enough.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/oap7oa

uffi69
20-11-18, 09:25 AM
Many thanks Scemoka

Sw33Z
20-11-18, 06:40 PM
Hi Scemoka , i am a bit tired of using Testiranje , i tried to make it better but didn't succeed .
So now i'm gonna try Christmas tree .
I still have some questions about it :
What striker type fits best ? Strong header or quick dribbler ?
Did you try to position the fullbacks one position higher on the overview ?
Gr33tz & big r3sp3ct ;)

scemoka
20-11-18, 06:56 PM
Hi Scemoka , i am a bit tired of using Testiranje , i tried to make it better but didn't succeed .
So now i'm gonna try Christmas tree .
I still have some questions about it :
What striker type fits best ? Strong header or quick dribbler ?
Did you try to position the fullbacks one position higher on the overview ?
Gr33tz & big r3sp3ct ;)

Respect should go to Franz Ferdinand. He created this amazing tactic.
Strong header with +18 Off the Ball and +18 jumping. Fits better. (cavani, zlatan, inzaghi)
Of course, tried about 1-2 year ago when i managed barcelona, i bought marcelo, dani alves , roberto carlos, cafu regens etc as wingbacks. Wob positioned wingbacks a few notches upper at top boxes and wib first bottom box 1 notch opposite upper, they automatically becamed DML-DMR arrowed to ML-MR. By this way you can use winger ML-MR when your clean wingbacks injured or banned.

Sw33Z
20-11-18, 08:14 PM
Respect should go to Franz Ferdinand. He created this amazing tactic.
Strong header with +18 Off the Ball and +18 jumping. Fits better. (cavani, zlatan, inzaghi)
Of course, tried about 1-2 year ago when i managed barcelona, i bought marcelo, dani alves , roberto carlos, cafu regens etc as wingbacks. Wob positioned wingbacks a few notches upper at top boxes and wib first bottom box 1 notch opposite upper, they automatically becamed DML-DMR arrowed to ML-MR. By this way you can use winger ML-MR when your clean wingbacks injured or banned.


I just finished to try implement what you sais about the wingbacks .
But for the WIB i had to do more than 1 notch to get what you said .
Could you perhaps take a look at the tactic ?
So i'm sure i modified this bomb correctly .

https://ufile.io/synna

scemoka
20-11-18, 08:55 PM
I just finished to try implement what you sais about the wingbacks .
But for the WIB i had to do more than 1 notch to get what you said .
Could you perhaps take a look at the tactic ?
So i'm sure i modified this bomb correctly .

https://ufile.io/synna
I looked at. In overview you did correctly. WOB you did perfect. :) WibYou changed wing-back two notches wider and one notch upper. but i think i works too, worth to try,may be it will be better than my suggestion, because in this case DML-and aroowed AMLC at same side symmetrically easy to pass forward. (e.g same sides works in 3-4-3 att tactic). if you will conceede more than you expected, make wib at left bottom box - DMR only one notch upper, at right bottom box DML one notch upper. And don't touch when they are at own boxes, or just use non-arrowed original version. That's all depend on your choices. ;) We won't die from a few changes of notches :D

Sw33Z
20-11-18, 10:50 PM
I looked at. In overview you did correctly. WOB you did perfect. :) WibYou changed wing-back two notches wider and one notch upper. but i think i works too, worth to try,may be it will be better than my suggestion, because in this case DML-and aroowed AMLC at same side symmetrically easy to pass forward. (e.g same sides works in 3-4-3 att tactic). if you will conceede more than you expected, make wib at left bottom box - DMR only one notch upper, at right bottom box DML one notch upper. And don't touch when they are at own boxes, or just use non-arrowed original version. That's all depend on your choices. ;) We won't die from a few changes of notches :D


Great tips :) I will try find out which is best :)

Sw33Z
21-11-18, 04:40 PM
The wingbacks perform insanely good but both amc could perform better , investigating it ;)

https://ufile.io/sn0cu

scemoka
21-11-18, 05:37 PM
The wingbacks perform insanely good but both amc could perform better , investigating it ;)

https://ufile.io/sn0cu

:) This guy is Wifred Bouma's regen. He is top wing-back. He has 20 creativity. Even he can play as inside forward, he could have good ratings there too (arrowed AMC left). In this tactic mediocre wingbacks can have good ratings. Choose for both Amc good dribblers. (high creativity works great too.)

Sw33Z
21-11-18, 05:55 PM
:) This guy is Wifred Bouma's regen. He is top wing-back. He has 20 creativity. Even he can play as inside forward, he could have good ratings there too (arrowed AMC left). In this tactic mediocre wingbacks can have good ratings. Choose for both Amc good dribblers. (high creativity works great too.)


Fist season i used him , he was maturing in reserves till i started using Christmas Tree :)
for both amc's : i remarked they are positioned quite wide : they look as much wingers as amc.
Also : they didnt lose much stats when i retrained the sc into fc . That was last season still using Testiranje .
This season the fc lost even more stats (dribbling & otb) . Is this because i retrained them or because they underperform ?
Now i stopped retraining the sc and they became sc's again .
I was using retrained SC into FC in the amc slots , maybe thats why they arent performing super .
I see 2 solutions to this : use flc instead of fc OR work the wib & wob screen to make them more central fc then wingpositioned forwards.

https://ufile.io/k69gw

scemoka
21-11-18, 06:55 PM
Fist season i used him , he was maturing in reserves till i started using Christmas Tree :)
for both amc's : i remarked they are positioned quite wide : they look as much wingers as amc.
Also : they didnt lose much stats when i retrained the sc into fc . That was last season still using Testiranje .
This season the fc lost even more stats (dribbling & otb) . Is this because i retrained them or because they underperform ?
Now i stopped retraining the sc and they became sc's again .
I was using retrained SC into FC in the amc slots , maybe thats why they arent performing super .
I see 2 solutions to this : use flc instead of fc OR work the wib & wob screen to make them more central fc then wingpositioned forwards.

https://ufile.io/k69gw

I little touched and just narrowed Two AMc symmetrically, but not disrupt,crash it. Sided boxes : First bottom box AMC starts much more interior, and in 2ndbox will getting one notch interiror than previous bottom, at the next box (3rd) again one notch interior than previous 2nd box, and at the ,final box again one notch interior than 3rd box. Shortly in every box getting interior by one notch.In central bozex narrowed too symmetrically. Wob one notch at bottom two boxes. I hope this will be satisfy your demandings. ;) Try it!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/d47ln3

Sw33Z
21-11-18, 09:24 PM
I little touched and just narrowed Two AMc symmetrically, but not disrupt,crash it. Sided boxes : First bottom box AMC starts much more interior, and in 2ndbox will getting one notch interiror than previous bottom, at the next box (3rd) again one notch interior than previous 2nd box, and at the ,final box again one notch interior than 3rd box. Shortly in every box getting interior by one notch.In central bozex narrowed too symmetrically. Wob one notch at bottom two boxes. I hope this will be satisfy your demandings. ;) Try it!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/d47ln3

Thanks a lot !
I love the look of it , lets see how it performs :)

Sw33Z
23-11-18, 05:26 PM
https://ufile.io/wobo5

Bouma praising his regen , i love it .
Btw , I went back to the wingback version , as i felt the Wb's perform better in the one notch up i've set . Also in wob second bottom central screen i've put the 2 outer Mc's 1 notch more central . Wib same screen i've put the 2 Amcs 1 notch more central. So WB's and Amc's are on same line ( same as in left & right bottm wib screens ) . Both Amcs perform a bit better i think . But needs more matches ( last results were 4-0 , 4-0 , 5-0 , 2-0 , 3-1 , 4-0 , 4-1 ) .

Sw33Z
23-11-18, 05:32 PM
2 more Q's i have for you Scemoka :
* the outer mc's need positioning +14 ?
* What training schedule do you use for the WB's ? I see attacking stats of my Wb's decreasing. I use my defender schedule (M-I-L-I ) for them .

scemoka
23-11-18, 06:11 PM
2 more Q's i have for you Scemoka :
* the outer mc's need positioning +14 ?
* What training schedule do you use for the WB's ? I see attacking stats of my Wb's decreasing. I use my defender schedule (M-I-L-I ) for them .

Outer Mc'S (mezzala) no need positioning. I always select MLC-MRC off the ball +18. Players MLC-MRC with crativity 20 works very grest too.If this creative player MLC/MRC or both do 80-100 passes p/match i give them direct pass, this makes the tactic monsterful, unbeateble.
I never see that in this tactic wing-backs stats decrasing. Even under mediocre wing-back have great rating over 7,5-8.0. May be some attributes of your wingbacks decrased. I don't think this tactic causes decrase. Players are decrasing by own their mentality, lack of determination, less ambition less work-rate.
I never touch training. In cm 01-02 trainin much less important than FM series i think.
(General) All medium. default - don't touched.
(Gk) only one change from default. Fitness Medium. not light fitness.
I have custom punishment training. Who did fitness-wory i send them there for 3 weeks.
(Pt): All intensive except Goalkeeping.

Sw33Z
23-11-18, 06:43 PM
Outer Mc'S (mezzala) no need positioning. I always select MLC-MRC off the ball +18. Players MLC-MRC with crativity 20 works very grest too.If this creative player MLC/MRC or both do 80-100 passes p/match i give them direct pass, this makes the tactic monsterful, unbeateble.
I never see that in this tactic wing-backs stats decrasing. Even under mediocre wing-back have great rating over 7,5-8.0. May be some attributes of your wingbacks decrased. I don't think this tactic causes decrase. Players are decrasing by own their mentality, lack of determination, less ambition less work-rate.
I never touch training. In cm 01-02 trainin much less important than FM series i think.
(General) All medium. default - don't touched.
(Gk) only one change from default. Fitness Medium. not light fitness.
I have custom punishment training. Who did fitness-wory i send them there for 3 weeks.
(Pt): All intensive except Goalkeeping.


Ok , perfect :) Tactic is so enjoyable , the WB's never get a 7 :p , never :)
So direct passing for such guys ( mezzala) is better than try trough balls ?
Learning a lot last days :)

scemoka
23-11-18, 07:26 PM
Ok , perfect :) Tactic is so enjoyable , the WB's never get a 7 :p , never :)
So direct passing for such guys ( mezzala) is better than try trough balls ?
Learning a lot last days :)

You're so humble... you know this game very very well. :)
Direct passing is not better for such guys (mezzala) rather than through balls. Use general team passing.
But direct passing individually is perfect only when they have high creativity. who has 60+100 passes p/game in anyone midline ML-MR-MC. Or always look players stats ... if a player in midline passes at least 2 - 3 times more than other teammates give him direct passing individually. This means more assists and more goals by him and absolutely kills the opponent.

Sw33Z
23-11-18, 08:59 PM
You're so humble... you know this game very very well. :)
Direct passing is not better for such guys (mezzala) rather than through balls. Use general team passing.
But direct passing individually is perfect only when they have high creativity. who has 60+100 passes p/game in anyone midline ML-MR-MC. Or always look players stats ... if a player in midline passes at least 2 - 3 times more than other teammates give him direct passing individually. This means more assists and more goals by him and absolutely kills the opponent.


Great !
But , does this apply to the wingbacks (dml/dmr) also ?
I surely know what to look at this weekend when ill be playing :)

scemoka
23-11-18, 09:27 PM
Great !
But , does this apply to the wingbacks (dml/dmr) also ?
I surely know what to look at this weekend when ill be playing :)

Of course you can apply to wing-backs (DML-DMR) too.
But it is very rare situation when DML-DMR has attribute 20 creativity. 20 creativity always does not mean he wants the ball, and passing more than others. You alway need look player stats. When i want buy creative MC or AMc for my team with high teqnique +15,,sorting from CM Scout is not enough. I always looks his match stats at his team. If he passes around 80-120, than i will buy him for my team to use him direct passing.
Look at the pic! I had a regen reserve DR. Very very rare example , No:22 Fabrizio Cristiano, he is reserve player, in cup matches i always use reserve players. He has 20 creativity. Although i gave him individually direct passing he had 53 passes, whic is much more than others . If he would have team passing (short), his passing counts would be 70-80 or up to 100.
https://i.postimg.cc/zVWRNM9t/rwb.png[img]
[img]https://preview.ibb.co/kvUNCA/rwb.png

Sw33Z
23-11-18, 09:51 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Q91P2cbt/patty.png (https://postimg.cc/Q91P2cbt)

https://i.postimg.cc/MXRMLXJF/pattystats.png (https://postimg.cc/MXRMLXJF)

my backup LWB ( PA of 122 !! ) has dreamstats for this , look at the screen : i've put MCL Balldelli on direct passing , but Patterson ( LWB) is still on team passing , but gets huge amount of passes every game .
lets see how Patterson does with direct passing :)

scemoka
23-11-18, 10:06 PM
Yes. :)
Baldelli did well with direct passing.
Patterson has off the ball 20 too. It means he is mobile, moving forward runs. Very good player.
For team chemistry 2-3 player with huge amount passing is enough. We have to find the right balance, agressive tacklers, high work rating-high determination players necessary too. When team full-of high creativty players, team getting slower.

Sw33Z
24-11-18, 05:31 PM
Outer Mc'S (mezzala) no need positioning. I always select MLC-MRC off the ball +18. Players MLC-MRC with crativity 20 works very grest too.If this creative player MLC/MRC or both do 80-100 passes p/match i give them direct pass, this makes the tactic monsterful, unbeateble.
I never see that in this tactic wing-backs stats decrasing. Even under mediocre wing-back have great rating over 7,5-8.0. May be some attributes of your wingbacks decrased. I don't think this tactic causes decrase. Players are decrasing by own their mentality, lack of determination, less ambition less work-rate.
I never touch training. In cm 01-02 trainin much less important than FM series i think.
(General) All medium. default - don't touched.
(Gk) only one change from default. Fitness Medium. not light fitness.
I have custom punishment training. Who did fitness-wory i send them there for 3 weeks.
(Pt): All intensive except Goalkeeping.

I bought a few fc's and sc's which i will retrain as mezzalla :)
https://i.postimg.cc/HV8KJnPd/vinzferrimez.png (https://postimg.cc/HV8KJnPd)
https://i.postimg.cc/w7Y5VBj6/corona.png (https://postimg.cc/w7Y5VBj6)

scemoka
24-11-18, 08:03 PM
:ok: You can use both of them as AMRC and AMLC together. AMC's are already upfront rather than other teammates, so you don't need to give individually them direct passing oftenly.

Sw33Z
24-11-18, 09:29 PM
:ok: You can use both of them as AMRC and AMLC together. AMC's are already upfront rather than other teammates, so you don't need to give individually them direct passing oftenly.

:)
Yes , i tried giving one of them direct passing , but here it doesnt improve his performance .
Baldelli ( DMRC ) however , with direct passing , is for me the reincarnation of God :D , but he's 34yrs and doesnt want to extend his contract .
Scouting a lot of matches now to see which guys in other teams get +60 passes ;)

ballo
29-11-18, 09:18 PM
Hi Scemoka,

First of all I'm a big fan of your tactics, sometimes I used them to be creative and create my own tactic.
I've attached a tactic I'm working on and would like if you can give me tips or switch some things up to improve it.
Only if you have the time to check it out.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/q457sr

I prefer that the overview stay the same.

Thank you in advance

scemoka
30-11-18, 12:46 AM
Hi Scemoka,

First of all I'm a big fan of your tactics, sometimes I used them to be creative and create my own tactic.
I've attached a tactic I'm working on and would like if you can give me tips or switch some things up to improve it.
Only if you have the time to check it out.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/q457sr

I prefer that the overview stay the same.

Thank you in advance

Hi ballo, firstly thank for your praising although it includes exaggeration. ;) I tried your tactic in my current save file and in torotest save file, and i can say that, your tactic very good enough for full-play. Gk and and two Dcs have long passing, this works good commonly most of matches. In overview, you have arrowed AMLC and non-arrowed FRC and these two players wob has difference only and only two notches. During matches i struggled to see the diversity between AMLC and FRC by clicking view > marker from opposition team, in any case if opposition manager uses man marking, opposition DLC was always marking FRC and opposition DRC was always marking arrwoed AMLC in every 4 backed or 3 backed opposition team's formations. AMLC did not escaped from man-marking by opposition DRC.
It means there is no overview effect in here in full-play. With this your total of all wob positioning variant FLC-SC-FRC and Arrowed AMLC-AMRC-SC totaly same. No matter.
I think there is no need improvement for your tactic. It works.
I can only offer to you two different versions of 4-3-3 which i always use, a little modified them, now they have same overview as your preference, but not sure you will like it, or not.
v1 => https://www.sendspace.com/file/isxyxj
v2 => https://www.sendspace.com/file/c2ml99

ballo
30-11-18, 09:51 PM
Hi Scemoka,

Thanks for the feedback!
I will check it out and use it for my full play game.
Just have one question, How do you see the oppostion team instructions/player during a match or after the match? ( marker for example?)

Also I got a new tactic I'm working on couple of days now.
Below I attached the link for you to check it when you have time.

I robbed allot of WIB an Wob of others tactics but it still isn't a killer tactic.
https://ibb.co/YjVypqY
https://i.postimg.cc/KRjNRnwZ/Capture.png (https://postimg.cc/KRjNRnwZ)

https://ibb.co/YjVypqY

https://www.sendspace.com/file/lihhht

scemoka
30-11-18, 11:33 PM
Hi Scemoka,

Thanks for the feedback!
I will check it out and use it for my full play game.
Just have one question, How do you see the oppostion team instructions/player during a match or after the match? ( marker for example?)

Also I got a new tactic I'm working on couple of days now.
Below I attached the link for you to check it when you have time.

I robbed allot of WIB an Wob of others tactics but it still isn't a killer tactic.
https://ibb.co/YjVypqY
https://i.postimg.cc/KRjNRnwZ/Capture.png (https://postimg.cc/KRjNRnwZ)

https://ibb.co/YjVypqY

https://www.sendspace.com/file/lihhht

Hi ballo, it is not in opposite player instructions, it is in your player instructions. You attached Scolari Brazil picture, look at this! At up left first tab is ''Tactics'', second tab is view. During matches if you click to ''view'' tab you will see at the bottom appeared ''Marker'' space. Remember it appears only during matches. After matches or before clicking kick off match as always at the bottom ''marking'' space as you know.
In your scolari tactic positioning, at the top wob left box right Wing-back centered rather than Right Central defender,At top right wob box vice versa. Switch their positioning by sides, move DRC interior and slide the wing-back wider. This is not enough. And make the wing-backs upper at all top wob boxes, this is absolute requirement of 3-4-3 formation.
Another option is, use nagoya based monster 3-4-3 att tactic which i always use.(more than 4 years). It is one of rare and exceptional which i don't need to renovise. (imagine! 30-35 times modified 3-5-2 con during these 4 years). ;) Fits great for full-play, lots of goal attempts.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ryvn9f

ballo
01-12-18, 11:40 AM
Thanks mate will check it out!

Sw33Z
03-12-18, 06:32 PM
Scemoka , just wanted to thank you for all your tips concerning christmas tree tactic :)
At the moment i've found a replacer for Baldelli , An Argentinian mrlc that passes +60 a game .
Also : my dlc passes +60 , so i've put him on direct passing too , works well now .
Still looking to perfectionize this bomb tactic :)
Maybe try long shots for some players ( maybe def mc or wingback dunno ? )

Beating lots of records with this tactic
*only conceeded 7 gls in premier league , and that with 3 new dc's
* striker scored 24 gls in CL
* my other striker scored +50 gls in league

not sure but : fc works very well in the sc spot , maybe even better then a sc ^^
will post some screens to show , later on
peace.

George_Roberto
07-12-18, 02:37 PM
Hi Scemoka! i want to know what the best tatic with 4-1-4-1 or 4-3-3??
There are some tatic invencible?
Thanks for help!

scemoka
07-12-18, 03:16 PM
Hi Scemoka! i want to know what the best tatic with 4-1-4-1 or 4-3-3??
There are some tatic invencible?
Thanks for help!

Hi mate George_Roberto! About a year ago you asked the best tactic too...:D yessss
These are for you ;)
defensive 4-1-4-1 => https://www.sendspace.com/file/qc737h
offensive 4-3-3 => https://www.sendspace.com/file/zm44a6
Have Fun! ;)

George_Roberto
07-12-18, 04:42 PM
Scemoka, There are some invencible tatic with 4-4-2? kkkk
Thanks for help me!

scemoka
07-12-18, 07:04 PM
Scemoka, There are some invencible tatic with 4-4-2? kkkk
Thanks for help me!

Use I need Passing or 442_tapani_iodine_6e. These are best.

George_Roberto
07-12-18, 07:42 PM
Scemoka, please, do you have link this tatic 442_tapani_iodine_6e??

Thanks so much!

scemoka
07-12-18, 08:27 PM
Scemoka, please, do you have link this tatic 442_tapani_iodine_6e??

Thanks so much!

https://www.sendspace.com/file/4on7vr

Antitoxin_ConcealedBodkin
15-12-18, 09:37 AM
Hy Scemoka, i wish you good christmas. Please reupload your Allegri tactics (the best, deliberate version).
And.. please make for me Luis Enrique, Klopp, Simeone and Zidane tactics.
I want to try out with small teams. :) :wave: Thank you in advance !

spyda2
16-12-18, 05:06 AM
HI Does anyone have Genius steals please

marcsmart
16-12-18, 09:08 AM
Hi Scemoka,

was trying to find a tactic where I can have 2 DMs and play like the current arsenal team with either 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-2-1, do you have a similar tactic that I can test with? Thank you so much! :)

scemoka
16-12-18, 01:06 PM
Hy Scemoka, i wish you good christmas. Please reupload your Allegri tactics (the best, deliberate version).
And.. please make for me Luis Enrique, Klopp, Simeone and Zidane tactics.
I want to try out with small teams. :) :wave: Thank you in advance !

Hi Mate! A long time ago i renovated 2 Allegri tactics. First Allegri Diamond became 4-3-1-2 car which is pretty much stronger,second Allegri backed 3-5-2 is 3-5-2 con.

I don't think that Luis Enrique has own style of play. You can use any 4-3-3 version, which you like most.
Klopp uses this year two diffrent formation 4-5-1/4-3-3 direct play and 4-2-3-1/4-4-2. Buy pacey players, you can easily adopt.
Zidane used 4-3-1-2 car tactic, which Carlo ANcelotti used at Juventus and Milan before.
And 442_tapani_6e is the best Simoene's 442 ever. Wob two strikers helping defense.

Ancelotti, Zidane, sometimes Allegri ...4-3-1-2 car => https://www.sendspace.com/file/six6ce. Use AMC with high creativity who passes around 100/per game. Monster tactic. I have life record, conceeded only one 1 goal. Always conceed less than 10.

scemoka
16-12-18, 01:09 PM
HI Does anyone have Genius steals please

Here is Genious Steals.tct which is in fact legendary 442_tapani_6e. ;) => https://www.sendspace.com/file/9cdyhm

scemoka
16-12-18, 01:17 PM
Hi Scemoka,

was trying to find a tactic where I can have 2 DMs and play like the current arsenal team with either 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-2-1, do you have a similar tactic that I can test with? Thank you so much! :)

Hi marcsmart;
Here is 3-4-2-1 based on nagoya gramprus, monster in full play => https://www.sendspace.com/file/p51zkl

And here is the pure 4-2-3-1, in my opinion 4-2-3-1 must be a hybrid of 4-4-1-1 and 4-2-1-3 => https://www.sendspace.com/file/8312ms (wib at the second top central box you can put your two MCs two notches lower for better defense, if you want)
:)

1369phil
16-12-18, 09:26 PM
Hi Scemoka

I've tried lots of your tactics and still fall back to Ultimatum, maybe because I love DMCs and Chelsea start with Desailly and Petit. Any tips for player types you recommend?

marcsmart
17-12-18, 07:50 AM
thanks scemoka! i will test them out :D

scemoka
17-12-18, 11:11 AM
Hi Scemoka

I've tried lots of your tactics and still fall back to Ultimatum, maybe because I love DMCs and Chelsea start with Desailly and Petit. Any tips for player types you recommend?

Hi 1369phil;
I a little touched Ultimatum for who likes playing with 3 DMCs together like you. Ultimatum_v2 offensive minded tactic,two MCs and wingers are arrowed, so there is no problem to give defensive players (DC-and 3 DMCs) direct passing for more attemps. This renewed version better for full-play.
You can use any DC good tackler-header, and any DMCs who are solid, good wingers, you must use offensive minded two MCs or two AMCs here is the key attribute is off the ball,
arrowed AMC who is in fact second striker, use good dribblinger,or creative forward like Cassano, Del Piero,Messi etc. And one striker header, jumper, off the ball.
Ultimatum_v2 => https://www.sendspace.com/file/c58qzq

marcsmart
19-12-18, 12:31 PM
hi scemoka,

tried playing with your 4-2-31 against the lastest saturn v6 database and i am having difficulties winning all the teams who uses default 4-5-1 (i think its iodine based and its almost every team :() I even got smashed at home by Fulham, lol

any reccomendations? thanks in advanced! :)

scemoka
19-12-18, 01:47 PM
hi scemoka,

tried playing with your 4-2-31 against the lastest saturn v6 database and i am having difficulties winning all the teams who uses default 4-5-1 (i think its iodine based and its almost every team :() I even got smashed at home by Fulham, lol

any reccomendations? thanks in advanced! :)

Hi marcsmart,

Try, Genious Steals, which is %93,5 442_tapani_6e. => https://www.sendspace.com/file/9cdyhm If you will have again difficultiues, always look at match stats, don't let your two DCs passing too much, choose right players & sell your trash players.

jpridie
19-12-18, 10:22 PM
Has anyone got a good tactic to use with the new update, getting thrashed by everyone

scemoka
20-12-18, 12:58 AM
Has anyone got a good tactic to use with the new update, getting thrashed by everyone

This tactic is very special mate ;) Sweep down on opponents! :D Rush => https://www.sendspace.com/file/6ky8fz

marcsmart
21-12-18, 01:50 AM
hi scemoka, you are right my 2 DC are passing more my CMs, i will try the tactic out, thanks again ;)

Kyle Forrest
25-12-18, 05:32 AM
Do these tactics work on odb?

Kyle Forrest
25-12-18, 08:53 AM
Scemoka, what is your favourite tactic to use in ODB?

scemoka
25-12-18, 12:56 PM
Do these tactics work on odb?
Hi Kyle Forest, all of them works on every database.





Scemoka, what is your favourite tactic to use in ODB?
100 times said before mate ;), Christtmas Tree by Franz Ferdinand is my love.
I have 50-60 modified tactics, but in full-play i use 12 of them. (these are my prior favorites)

Kyle Forrest
01-01-19, 11:49 PM
Which position do you use the playmaker? in the franz ferdinand xmas tree?

scemoka
02-01-19, 12:52 AM
Which position do you use the playmaker? in the franz ferdinand xmas tree?

In all tactics/all formations which i use, i never select spesific player by clicking team instructions as play maker or free-kicks/corners Right-Left.
Main point is team balance or squad chemistry. It always depends on player charactheristics.
In xmas tree tactic each midfielder (MLC- MC- or MRC) can be play maker by himself. For me; who has the high creativity, passing at least 2 times more than teammates he is natural play-maker.
If i have player like Perisic at arrowed AMLC to FLC, my MLC can be high creative midfielder with individual direct passing. If i have Pirlo as MC (he is natural play-maker for me- with individual direct passing) but this this time i choose MLC and MRC more box to box, agressive,good in movement boys.

Also in 4-3-1-2 car tactic, with 3 box-to-box agressive boys, most oftenly i put most creative player who passes +70 or more as AMC.(again here i not select him as play-maker by clicking team instructions, he becomes playmaker by himself with high amount passing).This time AMC without individual direct passing,because he is aldready at up front, by this choise ...the team's play mostly in the opponent field, and the tactic becomes very solid, almost undefeatable. (as i said before i have life records)
https://www.sendspace.com/file/six6ce

GFRay
02-01-19, 02:25 AM
This man is the tactics mastermind! :hail:

Maybe others make higher scoring tactics that get more points, but no one else puts the thinking and passion into his tactics like scemoka!

Happy New Year friend! :)

1369phil
02-01-19, 11:43 AM
Your work here is excellent Scemoka, thank you for your efforts.
I'm moving onto your 4-3-1-2, which is a departure for my usual DM dominated favourite tactics and lone strikers.
I always (nearly always) play with Chelsea on 3.9.68 so have a few decent/good players but Man Utd are such a force early on. Any player buying tips for the first season, the second season makes the Super Greeks available so it becomes a little easier from then.
Richie Wellens is a +15 passer/creativity MC (probably trainable to AMC) - Ryan Williams is a +15 off the ball and pacey AMRLC (probably more suited to the wider MC roles) - Gattuso and Ambrosini normally become available mid season and would fit your description of an "aggressive" box to box midfielder. Scott Parker is a decent player on this version with great tackling and positioning but usually poor pace.
Striker take care of themselves with the huge range of options (Blake, Collins, Mathisen then Skalidis and Papadopoulos) - defenders are relatively easy too (Babayaro, Young-Pyo, Espin, Duff .... who gets a lot of the ball, 50+ passes per game, Moore, Ravneng would be my obvious choices)
Midfield seems to be where this tactic is won or lost and you've been very kind in giving player recommendations - care to share any more tips?

scemoka
02-01-19, 12:27 PM
Your work here is excellent Scemoka, thank you for your efforts.
I'm moving onto your 4-3-1-2, which is a departure for my usual DM dominated favourite tactics and lone strikers.
I always (nearly always) play with Chelsea on 3.9.68 so have a few decent/good players but Man Utd are such a force early on. Any player buying tips for the first season, the second season makes the Super Greeks available so it becomes a little easier from then.
Richie Wellens is a +15 passer/creativity MC (probably trainable to AMC) - Ryan Williams is a +15 off the ball and pacey AMRLC (probably more suited to the wider MC roles) - Gattuso and Ambrosini normally become available mid season and would fit your description of an "aggressive" box to box midfielder. Scott Parker is a decent player on this version with great tackling and positioning but usually poor pace.
Striker take care of themselves with the huge range of options (Blake, Collins, Mathisen then Skalidis and Papadopoulos) - defenders are relatively easy too (Babayaro, Young-Pyo, Espin, Duff .... who gets a lot of the ball, 50+ passes per game, Moore, Ravneng would be my obvious choices)
Midfield seems to be where this tactic is won or lost and you've been very kind in giving player recommendations - care to share any more tips?

Hi 1369phil! You understand very well this tactic, how i can give any more tips? ;) :)
Always use good dribblers as wing-backs in this tactic, because they are always support attact.
Yesss, Gattuso,Ambrosini and for wider roles Ryan williams fits excellent. Scott Parker gives depth too.(one slow player does not cause problem). In different save games different situtions, players by traininng in for different position -sometimes make them ''unhappy with training'', sometimes he accepts. So i can't predict how Richie Wellens will react to new training.
If he will accept, and passing around 70-100 p/game, use him as AMC. If he will unhappy with training, use him at MLC or MRC as rotation player. Than for the new season, scout from other teams real AMC's who passes around 80-100 per game. Buy him and smash your opponents.

1369phil
02-01-19, 12:44 PM
Hi 1369phil! You understand very well this tactic, how i can give any more tips? ;) :)
Always use good dribblers as wing-backs in this tactic, because they are always support attact.
Yesss, Gattuso,Ambrosini and for wider roles Ryan williams fits excellent. Scott Parker gives depth too.(one slow player does not cause problem). In different save games different situtions, players by traininng in for different position -sometimes make them ''unhappy with training'', sometimes he accepts. So i can't predict how Richie Wellens will react to new training.
If he will accept, and passing around 70-100 p/game, use him as AMC. If he will unhappy with training, use him at MLC or MRC as rotation player. Than for the new season, scout from other teams real AMC's who passes around 80-100 per game. Buy him and smash your opponents.

Thanks man! 70-100 is a lot, I'll see what happens

1369phil
02-01-19, 11:29 PM
Thanks man! 70-100 is a lot, I'll see what happens

Wow - 1st game vs Leeds and Wellens gets 65 passes in a 5-0 win

Kyle Forrest
03-01-19, 12:08 AM
i only really use scemoka tactics if I don't create my own. His work is genius!

scemoka
03-01-19, 01:03 AM
This man is the tactics mastermind! :hail:

Maybe others make higher scoring tactics that get more points, but no one else puts the thinking and passion into his tactics like scemoka!

Happy New Year friend! :)


i only really use scemoka tactics if I don't create my own. His work is genius!

Thanx guys, i got spoiled by your flattering words.
But christmas tree tactic is Franz Ferdinand's great work. I only renamed it. Because it is pure xmas tree by Franz Ferdinand. Its original name Nagoya Grampus drops this excellent tactic's value i think :D
4-3-1-2 car - (wob more pressing) and 3-4-3 att based on christmas tree, with little symmetrical touches. i will use them forever. ;)

Kyle Forrest
03-01-19, 05:47 PM
scemoka, how to you think these 3 tactics would do with man city on 3.9.68 version? i’m a city but back then we were a very poor team

scemoka
03-01-19, 06:02 PM
scemoka, how to you think these 3 tactics would do with man city on 3.9.68 version? i’m a city but back then we were a very poor team

Poor or good, 68 or 60, it doesn't matter. These 3 tactics, 3-5-2 con and 4-1-4-1 dna works everywhere excellent!

Kyle Forrest
03-01-19, 06:09 PM
okay cheers mate

Kyle Forrest
03-01-19, 06:59 PM
and the 4312 car, mentality is normal? i usually play attacking, is normal best for this?