Players in the Future

[martinho]

Is it just me, or does anyone else find that as you get to, say, 10 seasons played in a game - the standard of almost ALL players is terribly low?
I notice players of very high value, but very poor stats - and also players who's stats dont match their position? ie strikers with 18 marking, defenders with 20 finishing?

I just mention this because as i progress later into a game, it becomes very frustrating to see almost all other teams comprised of very poor players, and it takes a long time searching to find any players of even a reasonable standard.

Does anyone else find this happening to them?

[Patinoz]

Playing ptp I actually found that it is exactly the other way around. Prolly too many good players.

[martinho]

Sorry, ptp?

[AMC]

Pass the Parcel, check the stories thread.

Agree with Pat, especially defenders, it's well known (I think :D) players come back with exceptional positioning skills and as this is probably the most important stat for defenders, there are so many good defenders in the future.

[Coys]

Hence why the goals dry up later in the game when more regens are added to the database. Unless you use Tapani 2.19 where he slows down player development etc.

I use 2.16 though as i like to see lots of red numbers, but it does get frustrating after a while seeing every team score only 40-50 goals in the prem

[316'sRegen]

I would agree that the regens become crazy good after 10 years,I love this point in the game.
Coys, are you running a few decent leagues at the same time?
That's a good way to ensure quality.

[Coys]

Nothing wrong with the quality mate, i always run Brazil, Argentina, and all the major european countries in foreground and background with max database :ok:

Just other teams don't score many goals because of the high amount of players with high positioning stats, either that or defensive tactics.

[churky]

It's all about positioning, as already pointed out. I wonder if somewhere out there is still that old thread where we discovered how big of an impact positioning has in cm0102 match engine...I remember someone (Alan?) put a Conference team to PL, maxed out positioning for all his players and was on 5th place half-way through the season.

[Goofy]

It's all about positioning, as already pointed out. I wonder if somewhere out there is still that old thread where we discovered how big of an impact positioning has in cm0102 match engine...I remember someone (Alan?) put a Conference team to PL, maxed out positioning for all his players and was on 5th place half-way through the season.

Yeah, i remember that thread too........ don't think it was Alan though.......... will have a look and see if i can dig it up, may be over at the old place :)

Edit - Caterlatics started it i think :tup:

[Alan]

It was me! I think I used Woking and ended up around 9th or 10th in the end.

[Goofy]

I stand corrected then, apologies Alan :)

Looks like the old site has finally been pulled, just getting 404 errors now :(

[Fods]

Yeh Carterlatics created that thread and then had a hissy fit when he didnt win MOTM :lol:

Back to Topic, players seem just fine to me in the future too. (Using 2.19)

[Alan]

Just ran a quick test, again with Woking.

http://imageshack.us/a/img211/7963/woking.jpg

[churky]

Yeah, positioning is somewhat important. :lol:

[Fods]

Think I tried it on the International stage selecting only players with high positioning (lower leagues only) and won the Euros or something :rolleyes:

[Coys]

All i want to know is how on earth did Woking not finish bottom one year :lol:

[Alan]

Southampton were below them on goal difference :)

[Coys]

unbelievable :lol:

[martinho]

Wanted to ask, exactly what is the difference between the 2.16 and 2.19 patch? And can 2.16 be used with the September 2012 update?

[martinho]

And also, is there anyway to make the AI better? Like by importing custom tactics into the game? I ask because the patch that "enabled harder AI tactics" no longer works with the new data updates.

thanks!

[Coys]

2.19 slows down player development, as Tapani felt that players reached their full potential's too quickly.

2.16 is just the default player development, which i myself prefer.

In some ways, i can see why Tapani changed it. A 16 year old wonderkid shouldn't reach 190 PA within a season. However, there were some flaws with the patch. Such as some players not developing at all if they had bad coaches / training facilities.

[martinho]

Thank you Coys :) and 2.16 works with the Sept 2012 Data Update?

[Coys]

Yep :ok:

[316'sRegen]

And also, is there anyway to make the AI better? Like by importing custom tactics into the game? I ask because the patch that "enabled harder AI tactics" no longer works with the new data updates.

thanks!
tapani discusses that in post 3 here: http://www.champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?70-What-does-the-Tapani-Patch-change
(imported by pati from the old server)

although the best form of AI is a bloody human opponent :D
http://www.champman0102.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?164-Network-Games

in fact, :focus:

if there are more human managers in the game the super freakmen regenerating will be more evenly spread :lol:

long story short, solve the problem of "terrible standard of players" by playing a 16 player network game :eek:

[swedishcmgod]

I think it has more to do with shitty managers being in charge of the best teams. Had a season in which Scholes had terrible stats and was managing Liverpool. He had a habit of picking shitty 10 points avg players for the starting XI. No wonder they eventually got relegated.

[ClayDatsusara]

I think it has more to do with shitty managers being in charge of the best teams. Had a season in which Scholes had terrible stats and was managing Liverpool. He had a habit of picking shitty 10 points avg players for the starting XI. No wonder they eventually got relegated.

He was clearly doing that on purpose me thinks :D Being a ManU man, he must hate Liverpool :P