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Dermotron
02-03-12, 04:13 PM
The ODB Team are please to announce the release of our March 2012 database.



There is an absolute huge amount of work gone into this database and we hope you'll all appreciate the many, many hours put in by the members of the team.

A big thanks also goes to those who have provided transfer news and feedback since the last update.

Changes
* 1000's of transfers of worldwide tranfers
* Vast majority of Scouting Forum updated
* England completely updated
* English lower leagues major overhaul
* Italy completely updated
* Portugal completely updated
* Croatia completely updated
* Holland completely updated
* France completely updated
* World and International Caps and Reps Updated
* Formations updated for managers of Worlds top clubs
* Huge amount of contracts updated
* 100's of the worlds best young talents and emerging players added
* Histories updated for 100's of players

Link to download - http://www.champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=file&id=46

http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/Lowskys/Feb%202012%20DB/screen3.jpg
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/Lowskys/Feb%202012%20DB/screen5.jpg
http://s9.postimage.org/8n0hao44f/Cahillchelsea.png
http://s16.postimage.org/k5ijucx1h/cisse_qpr.png

Dermotron
03-03-12, 06:14 PM
Fill your boots :ok:

BlazeRavenwolf
03-03-12, 07:08 PM
can we use any patch with this lads

Mick
03-03-12, 07:27 PM
Am i missing something here???? Robinho at City?

swedishcmgod
03-03-12, 07:29 PM
Am i missing something here???? Robinho at City?

9 months into the game....

djs_298
03-03-12, 08:16 PM
Great job :hail:

First impressions on Sunderland:

Keith Bertschin is still a coach at Sunderland under O'Neill, needs re-adding.
Fraizer Campbell should be F RC (he has played half of his football at SAFC on the right wing). His injury should also have been removed now.
James McClean should have his midfield rating at 20, not sure why it is 20 for striker.
Billy Knott is a AM LC, basically he is a midfielder who can play in the hole, he isn't a forward.
Sessegnon is equally adept on the right as the left, so that should be added.
Angeleri has had a knee injury for a year now, and continues to be out for the rest of the season.

Also on a lesser note, there are a number of reserve players who could be added if there's space in the squad, such as Pickford, Marrs, Bagnall and Gorrin.

Baz
03-03-12, 10:24 PM
Did try to put the feedback in England but it's locked :lol:

Cardiff:
Andrew Taylor needs to be first choice left back not Lee Naylor
Anthony Gerrard doesn't really need the DR rating
Joe Mason needs to be either a FLC or an AM/F LC with 17 for Left, and needs to have reps upped a little

Newport:
Ramon Rose needs reps dropped a little
Ryan Charles needs reps upped a little
Nat Jarvis needs reps upped a little
Jake Harris needs reps upped a little and probably deserves a 10/11 in finishing, he's a natural poacher

eMeM
04-03-12, 12:25 AM
good job, thanks!

Ipswich

out:
Alan Quinn AM L - free transfer
Jamie Griffiths M C- free transfer
Paul Murphy S C - free transfer

in:
Tommy Smith on loan to non-league team? that one is weird ;)

please nickname Jay Emmanuel-Thomas as "JET" or E-Thomas

AMC
04-03-12, 04:19 AM
There's only one Jet and she was on Gladiators!

Germaniac
04-03-12, 05:02 AM
Lars Bender should have 4 caps not 2
Sven Bender should have 1 cap not 2
Both should be DM C

Lars Bender birthdate is 27-4-1989 not 28-4-1989

Koscielny is french not polish

Dermotron
04-03-12, 10:33 AM
Thanks Germaniac, was just too close to release to get around to the caps but Lars has 3 and Sven has 2 OFFICIAL caps.

Koscielny is French in the database. He also holds a Polish passport

maraduzza
04-03-12, 11:15 AM
great stuff derm
im just downloading now so will post back any feedback on hull city squad mate
thanks again

Patinoz
04-03-12, 11:36 AM
Lars Bender should have 4 caps not 2
Sven Bender should have 1 cap not 2
Both should be DM C

Lars Bender is not a DMC



Thanks Germaniac, was just too close to release to get around to the caps but Lars has 3 and Sven has 2 OFFICIAL caps.

not really mate, Germ is actually right there

http://www.dfb.de/index.php?action=search&liga=Nationalmannschaft&id=500003&lang=D&no_cache=1&name=S.%3BBender&gegner=

http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=500003&no_cache=1&action=showPlayer&full=1&liga=Nationalmannschaft&vorname=L.&nachname=Bender&cHash=2b8739b4ec19a4b9798dc942cdd0c56c

Germaniac
04-03-12, 11:44 AM
Thanks Germaniac, was just too close to release to get around to the caps but Lars has 3 and Sven has 2 OFFICIAL caps.

Koscielny is French in the database. He also holds a Polish passport
On dfb.de it's 4 and 1 :/

maraduzza
04-03-12, 11:44 AM
hello me again
checked hull squad and looks great apart from just 3 changes
Pusic,M (AMRC) as been released
2 players need creating

Danny East (RB)
born 26/12/91
english

Sonny Bradley (CB)
born 13/9/91
english
(currently on loan to Aldershot)

Germaniac
04-03-12, 11:46 AM
Lars Bender is not a DMC
He's DMC/MC

herenius
04-03-12, 11:50 AM
a little omission:

Nemanja Dabic is in Hajduk Split squad (Croatia), but he's supposed to be in Hajduk Kula (Serbia).


(I would post this in topic ODB March 2012 Feedback - Croatia (http://31.222.136.27/showthread.php?205-ODB-March-2012-Feedback-Croatia), but it's locked?)

Baz
04-03-12, 12:50 PM
One of the moderators will open them shortly.

Patinoz
04-03-12, 01:15 PM
He's DMC/MC

he is MLC/AMLC

Germaniac
04-03-12, 02:01 PM
he is MLC/AMLC
No way, even in all FIFA games he's DMC

BeezerCeltic1967
04-03-12, 02:21 PM
bender is a def mid/ mid cen in real life.
no danger is he an att mid left :lol:

BeezerCeltic1967
04-03-12, 02:22 PM
he is MLC/AMLC


:nono:

Patinoz
04-03-12, 02:36 PM
No way, even in all FIFA games he's DMC

no offense mate, but i base my opinion on watching him week in and week out and not what FIFA says


there are lightyears between him and his brother (who is a true DMC) position-wise


Edit: maybe not lightyears but he is the more offense-orientated brother

Germaniac
04-03-12, 02:39 PM
Yes, Sven is more defensive, Lars more attacking, in FIFA Sven is DMC/MC/DC Lars is DMC/MC/ML/MR but they're still DMC...

Patinoz
04-03-12, 02:47 PM
bender is a def mid/ mid cen in real life.
no danger is he an att mid left :lol:

i am not saying give him 20 for left or whatever, but he has played that position before

you can't always go after what some webpages say, you have to watch the games and see how it actually looks like on the pitch

his brother is a true defensive destroyer and ball winner, whereas lars is more attacking

so yeah, i'd give Lars 20 M, 10 AM or so as well as giving him 10 for left or so since he has played on the left side before

Patinoz
04-03-12, 02:53 PM
Yes, Sven is more defensive, Lars more attacking, in FIFA Sven is DMC/MC/DC Lars is DMC/MC/ML/MR but they're still DMC...

i dont care what fifa says

sven bender would have not once in his life played as a DC for dortmund so its complete rubbish

leokeren
04-03-12, 02:55 PM
I have a serious issue with darren fletcher being a free agent, out about 7 months with viral infection, and believes he has no future in professional football.

while it is true that he is taking an extended break due to his colitis ulcerative, the disease itself, if it get worse, is curable via surgery. I don't see him retire from football just because of his disease.

Forzabvb
04-03-12, 04:18 PM
This happened when I signed Fillipo Inzaghi as a player/coach. Strange!

http://s13.postimage.org/uoig8cfsz/Inzaghi_attributes_with_0.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/uoig8cfsz/)

BlazeRavenwolf
04-03-12, 04:23 PM
until fletcher is back at Utd he will stay a free transfer with retirement set

Dermotron
04-03-12, 05:10 PM
I have a serious issue with darren fletcher being a free agent, out about 7 months with viral infection, and believes he has no future in professional football.

while it is true that he is taking an extended break due to his colitis ulcerative, the disease itself, if it get worse, is curable via surgery. I don't see him retire from football just because of his disease.

But he can't play. It's either that or retire him altogether. Until he has a date of return, even an estimate, he is good as retired, albeit temporarily. He's unlikely to even back by the next database release date.

If it's really annoying you that much just open the editor and remove it

Goofy
04-03-12, 05:45 PM
Davie Weir is available as a free agent - he's on the coaching staff at Everton now :)

AMC
04-03-12, 05:53 PM
Techincally he's player-coach as he's going to play in a few reserve games. I did post this up but it must have slipped the net, understandable though given the number of posts!

Goofy
04-03-12, 05:56 PM
No worries, was just checking the available free transfers for Rangers in my game and spotted him :)

Dermotron
04-03-12, 05:57 PM
Techincally he's player-coach as he's going to play in a few reserve games. I did post this up but it must have slipped the net, understandable though given the number of posts!

Indeed mate. Never seen anything like it before any update.

Then we've taken on some really cracking scouts/updaters like Topaz, Swede, S.Nikiforenko, Sir broekhart, AK16 (Aula), CF and it's been so hard keeping into the feedback they've been giving :ok:

owalton
04-03-12, 07:55 PM
Awesome stuff, great work guys!! Is there a backgrounds pack available that contains those stadium pics seen in the screen shots?? Many thanks for any help

Dermotron
04-03-12, 07:56 PM
There's a few in the download section and Baz add some to Graphics forum too :ok:

Duke29
04-03-12, 10:04 PM
am i the only one who can't make this update work?? i install it like the previous one, copy the files to the Data folder, but there are no changes in it, it appears exactly as the november update. can anyone help me? what am i doing wrong?

Forzabvb
04-03-12, 10:11 PM
am i the only one who can't make this update work?? i install it like the previous one, copy the files to the Data folder, but there are no changes in it, it appears exactly as the november update. can anyone help me? what am i doing wrong?

When you open the .zip-file ODB Style Data Update March 2012, you'll see the map called ODB Style Data Update March 2012. Within that map there is a map called ODB March 2012 Data. You have to copy the files from that map to your original championship manager 01-02/data map.

AMC
04-03-12, 10:16 PM
Techincally he's player-coach as he's going to play in a few reserve games. I did post this up but it must have slipped the net, understandable though given the number of posts!

Following on from this Everton have a full coaching staff all currently at the club, so maybe just make him a reserve player at Everton.

BlazeRavenwolf
04-03-12, 10:57 PM
Joe Jackson (Burnley) - Should be SC not GK

Duke29
04-03-12, 11:15 PM
When you open the .zip-file ODB Style Data Update March 2012, you'll see the map called ODB Style Data Update March 2012. Within that map there is a map called ODB March 2012 Data. You have to copy the files from that map to your original championship manager 01-02/data map.

that's what i have done, replaced the files that already existed, and it didn't changed nothing.

Fods
04-03-12, 11:56 PM
Are you running the game as Administrator? as per the tutorial with the download... did you even read the tutorial?

Duke29
05-03-12, 01:06 AM
yes, i've read the toturial and have done exactly as it said there, and yes i'm running it as Administrator.

Found the problem, it was the Cpuinf32.dll file, because in the toturial it only said that it will have issues with XP, i tought that with windows 7 it wouldn't be a problem, but i was wrong. sorry about the trouble and thanks for your help guys.

wato20
05-03-12, 04:01 PM
i bet he wasnt running as Admin! :D


On another note..

How far has anyone holidayed into the future?
Just wondered if there wud be an issue like with the other one crashing in 2014, or something...

peace

herenius
06-03-12, 12:56 AM
@Dermotron

Is there going to be a version 2.0. of March data update (like in September) in couple of weeks?

Fods
06-03-12, 03:24 AM
Am sure the lads have run years and years of holiday tests before release

Fods
06-03-12, 03:25 AM
@Dermotron

Is there going to be a version 2.0. of March data update (like in September) in couple of weeks?

The only reason a new version was released before was due to an issue with the first upload. As there are no issues this time around, why would there be a new release?

BeezerCeltic1967
06-03-12, 06:28 AM
i bet he wasnt running as Admin! :D


On another note..

How far has anyone holidayed into the future?
Just wondered if there wud be an issue like with the other one crashing in 2014, or something...

peace


10 years, no problems.

Dermotron
06-03-12, 10:21 AM
@Dermotron

Is there going to be a version 2.0. of March data update (like in September) in couple of weeks?


Hi, no there will be no v2.0. As Fodster said the last time it was because of database flaw we hadn't anticipated with the Euro Championships

Monkey the Chicken
06-03-12, 03:24 PM
Great work guys.

George_Roberto
06-03-12, 05:03 PM
Villas Boas no more coach chelsea

Dermotron
06-03-12, 05:13 PM
He was before release though :D

Fods
07-03-12, 04:41 AM
Had to be one, was just waiting for that

saek87
07-03-12, 11:28 AM
Great work. thanks guys! :ok:

Dermotron
07-03-12, 11:33 AM
Had to be one, was just waiting for that

:lol:


Will probably get it for the rest of the month!

wato20
07-03-12, 11:41 AM
Hey. I just installed the update.
But Henry is not at Arsenal and Villas Boas is still Chelsea Manager... :D


:lol:

:ok:

:yes:

user45
07-03-12, 02:06 PM
I have crash on World Club Championship. The same crash i have in previous update.
When teams are drawn there are no final opponent.

From that moment there are no World Club Championship

4041

AMC
07-03-12, 02:12 PM
Don't start in 2011, I don't know how many times it's been said on here.

user45
07-03-12, 02:17 PM
42



My start of the game is 2010, this world club championship are one Year later

Dermotron
07-03-12, 02:42 PM
Problem looks to be with the patch, not the data. Are you getting these issues without the Tapani patch - and what Tapani Patch are you using?


Actually, what nation is that WCC being held in?

ebfatz
07-03-12, 02:51 PM
Don't start in 2011, I don't know how many times it's been said on here.

On here not so many! :lol:
The old place however!!!

user45
07-03-12, 02:57 PM
Patch 2.19
Host - Spain - Barcelona and Madrid

Dermotron
07-03-12, 03:04 PM
Interesting. Alan spotted and error with this before, think someone may have added it back :doh:

If you delete the Lluís Companys stadium (or maybe just the city), I believe the error won't occur I do believe.

Forzabvb
07-03-12, 06:02 PM
Don't start in 2011, I don't know how many times it's been said on here.

Damn! I've started a game with Dortmund in 2011. It crashed on January 7th 2012

Dermotron
07-03-12, 06:25 PM
Damn! I've started a game with Dortmund in 2011. It crashed on January 7th 2012

Why the hell did you start in 2011 :lol:

Think we'll have to buy some google ads to put around the site or some pop ups with the download.

wato1981
07-03-12, 07:25 PM
Have players wages been looked at in the last update players wages were much lower than they used to be? Just wondering why they were changed?

user45
07-03-12, 07:42 PM
@Dermotron - is there any possibility to fix my save game? I dont want to start again :(

Patinoz
07-03-12, 07:59 PM
Damn! I've started a game with Dortmund in 2011. It crashed on January 7th 2012

what else to expect from a dortmund supporter :rolleyes: :D

Forzabvb
07-03-12, 09:07 PM
what else to expect from a dortmund supporter :rolleyes: :D
:party::party:

czvladan
07-03-12, 11:15 PM
I play with wolves and there is no paying dividends to shareholders at the end of the season.Exactly I play september 2011 odb.Is that situation only for smaller clubs or not?

Dermotron
07-03-12, 11:20 PM
The club needs to be a plc (Public Limited Company) before it pays dividends to shareholders.

Better that your not, the club gets to keep the money :)

czvladan
07-03-12, 11:28 PM
Oh yes,every time i try to play with harder way.Now,my mind is clear-everything is legal :ok:

wato20
08-03-12, 10:22 AM
Have players wages been looked at in the last update players wages were much lower than they used to be? Just wondering why they were changed?

who is this other Wato? Asking stupid questions with their first post...
I thought i had trademarked the wato name...

nijos007
08-03-12, 11:57 AM
Sorry also I just thought I would add that in all your updates, West Ham's finances are severly messed up, to the point that if I am not in Europe I suffer bad. This I believe is due to the ticket prices being set at a very very low price for home games. With most other clubs I make money, but with West Ham, its always a struggle, and thats after everyone has had severe wage reductions.

McGovdogs
08-03-12, 12:43 PM
looks great, I just have one question... Will it work for mac?

Dermotron
08-03-12, 12:46 PM
If you know how to convert, yes it will - but unfortunately we haven't moved the mac thread across from the old forum just yet.

That said, there is still this tutorial -

http://www.champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?319-Tutorial-How-to-update-the-game-on-your-MAC

ebfatz
08-03-12, 12:51 PM
Demba Ba's contract clause.
Added at £9m which is more than the widely reported £7m so that's good.

Although word on the grapevine is that the clause is slightly more complicated than that.
Apparently any transfer fee that Newcastle get over £7m, Ba gets HALF!!
ie Newcastle sell for £10m, Ba gets £5m of it!

Doubt that could be implemented in game.

tbh Ba seems to ask for a new contract about a week into game each time so it's a bit of a moo point!
(A cow's opinion! It's moo!)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lziwapOusd1rpse1yo1_500.png

Dermotron
08-03-12, 12:58 PM
£9m in game would be nearly £20m now :)

ebfatz
08-03-12, 02:18 PM
Fair enough. Like I said the £9m is better than the £7m. It was more that the terms weren't correct as reported than the fee.
I'm not complaining. It means I can keep him. (Although he's been rubbish. Cisse is playing like a beast mind you!)

wato1981
08-03-12, 03:54 PM
who is this other Wato? Asking stupid questions with their first post...
I thought i had trademarked the wato name...

LOL!! Your better looking brother you didnt know you had!!

plus how is this a stupid question? Some of the best players in the game were only getting £50,000 - £60,000 a week

Dermotron
08-03-12, 03:59 PM
Thats what the game/cpu assigned them

wato1981
08-03-12, 04:02 PM
Thats what the game/cpu assigned them

But I used to see players getting over £100,000 a week in previous games?? I did see something a while ago on this forum before it was updated about the wages being changed to lower for some reason?

Dermotron
08-03-12, 04:04 PM
Yeah, they weren't balancing correctly. Some smaller clubs were paying out a million a week on wages, so we reduced them all to 0 and let them CPU assign them based on club, league and player reps :ok:

wato1981
08-03-12, 04:09 PM
Yeah, they weren't balancing correctly. Some smaller clubs were paying out a million a week on wages, so we reduced them all to 0 and let them CPU assign them based on club, league and player reps :ok:

Ah right no probs does make sense cheers for clearing that up ;)

lucasdm
08-03-12, 06:06 PM
INTERNACIONAL

Fabricio - D / AM L - M: 15, AM: 17
Juliano - loaned to Goiás
Lima - D / M L - M: 15
Jajá Coelho (Cruzeiro) - transfer to Al Ahli and loan to Internacional
Zé Mário - D / DM L - D: 20, DM: 20
Ytalo - release


Fernandão (Fernando Lúcio da Costa) - General Manager
Vitório Píffero - change name to Luis Anápio Gomes - DOB: 01/01/1955
Marquinhos (Verdy) - to Inter

Leomir (de Souza) - to Fluminense
Guto Ferreira - manager of Mogi Mirim


Create:

Josimar (Rosado da Silta Tavares)
DOB: 18/08/1986
Position: DM C
CA/PA: 121/131

Fred (Frederico Rodrigues Santos)
DOB: 05/03/1993
Positiong: AM LC - M: 15, AM: 20, L: 20, C: 20
CA/PA: 115/145


Dellatorre (Guilherme Augusto Alves Dellatorre)
DOB: 01/05/1992
Positiong: S C
CA/PA: 95/120

Cláudio Winck (Cláudio Winck Neto)
DOB: 15/04/1994
Position: D R - Wing Back: 20
CA/PA: 97/147

martinho
08-03-12, 07:09 PM
Is it not possible to use harder AI tactics at all? Game is rather easy :(

Dermotron
08-03-12, 07:10 PM
Create a Tapanified DB or don't use all the best tactics

AMC
08-03-12, 07:35 PM
Is it not possible to use harder AI tactics at all? Game is rather easy :(


Use non wib-wob tactics.

Zorb
09-03-12, 12:31 PM
Hi,
First can I say gr8 work with the update.

I do have a problem when playing in Italy. It hangs (100% CPU loop) on 27th December Evening (just after the Update Game Data). I've left it for over an hour, so this is a hard loop. Other countries work fine and Italy works fine on other updates. I have tried it on both a basic .68 game and a tapani 2.19 patch. both the same. I have selected only the Italian leagues, with the series C2 included

Can someone please try this to see if it is me or if this is a problem.
Thanks

Patinoz
09-03-12, 02:22 PM
works fine on my end mate

tommy_craven
10-03-12, 02:28 AM
hi all,

3 of us got a quality network game going, after 10 hours and completing the first season its decided to crash every time on 10.6.12 - no error message just a windows message telling us its stopped working and it shuts the game down, any ideas how to get past this??

Fods
10-03-12, 08:22 AM
Don't start in 2011

shikaka
12-03-12, 11:37 AM
It is likely happening because I edited the DataBase (upped club reps, changed a few players), but I get an error when the game is "processing".

This one:
V.3.9.68 Database Cpp 17353

Running: england, scotland, france, germany, italy, spain, netherlands foreground, australia, usa background.
comment1: I could always proceed with clicking on the error message until now.
comment2: Also, it seems when I don't modify the odb team's data, I don't get this message.


Questions:
1. how can I edit the database to avoid this error? (I usually do like: update whatever I want, validate, save)
2. will this error corrupt corrupt my game, or is this a minor problem?

Dermotron
12-03-12, 11:42 AM
http://www.champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?352-Error-Database-cpp-17353-on-March-2012-Update :ok:


Once you validate the database you'll ruin the staff histories and get the error above

shikaka
12-03-12, 12:48 PM
Thank you for the help! So no validation, no worries!

Kevin
12-03-12, 03:43 PM
Fantastic Update - best one yet!

Sorry I can't really give any more detailed feedback :)

massuia
16-03-12, 09:00 PM
Brazillian teams are too weak.
Corinthians have too much cash. The most rich team in Brazil is São Paulo, one of the few who had a positive balance.
Mílton Cruz is an assist manager, not a coach.
Wesley, from Palmeiras, comming from Werder Bremen, is MC, not an AC (and he not signed yet).
Bruno Cortês (that uses "Cortez" as common name now) deserves an improve. He's one of the bests brazillian's DE on activity. He's a fast hardworker LE, supports a lot, but dont finalize himself, he always passes, giving assistances for his companions.
Wellington needs a improve too. He was almost to being called up to Brazil, but got hurt and will need a surgery. He's an excellent DMC, with superb stamina, trackling, and go sometimes to attack too, but not too effective (he's a Ramires-like, but mainly deffensive).
And Adriano (ex-inter/roma/flamengo/corinthians) is releases from his contract. Flamengo is the most likely to hire him.
Sry for my poor english. xD

Sergio12345
19-03-12, 02:41 AM
Great update guys. I just have one question. I am playing all my games with harder AI tactics, and, since the Tapani patch 3.12 ,that enables hard tactics, does not work with this update, i use the 2010-2011 update that is compatible with 3.12, and i use the editor of the current update to edit some teams in that old update.
The problem is that i have to do this process step by step. Is there a quick way, so that i can copy-paste players' attributes from the current update's editor to the editor of the older update? If not , can anyone of the site's leaders give me the e-mail of Tapani. I don't think it will take him lots of time to make a 3.12 patch for the current update.
Thanks

Fods
19-03-12, 03:11 AM
1) we wpont be giving out Tapanis email, if he wanted to work on a patch then im sure he would still be visitng the site.
2) im sure it takes a lot longer than u think.
3) see here, good luck: http://www.champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?67-Guide-How-to-prepare-a-quot-Tapanified-quot-database
4) there is no quick way to do what you want, if there was I am sure there would be a 3.12 release with every update if that was the case. The 3.12 patch actually amends the .exe file so adding data updates from one exe to a different one wont work

ToniCarlito
19-03-12, 11:59 AM
Hello, well i am impressed with enzo zidane.

I use him as an inside / support mc in my bologna 4-4-1-1 tactic an he is doing very well, especially with the assists.

I haven' t see him play the ball, so does he got it also in the real game ?

By the way, thanks for the data update is awesome!:applause:

user45
21-03-12, 07:45 AM
Interesting. Alan spotted and error with this before, think someone may have added it back :doh:

If you delete the Lluís Companys stadium (or maybe just the city), I believe the error won't occur I do believe.

Thanks! After this it all seems to be ok :peace:

zionmaster
21-03-12, 12:23 PM
I would like to ask an question:

I'm playing the second season with ManU. But the trouble is that My players' condition (100%) can't be recovered after a match. I have been waiting for 3,4 matchs but players' condition is still 35% or 55% (Tir) :-?? And my players get injury, I have no information about this from NEWS

Anyone can help me solve this trouble??? Many thanks!

Fods
21-03-12, 12:24 PM
change training regime

zionmaster
21-03-12, 12:33 PM
Oh, thank you :)

Dermotron
21-03-12, 12:39 PM
As Foddy says change the regime :ok:

Found this happening with the Tapani patch a lot. Put them to 'Light' or 'No' training and they will come back to 100% fast enough

MrBuckminster
22-03-12, 04:26 PM
Is there any chance yous could edit the pics on the first page. A bit misleading having de rossi and Robinho at Citeh.

Dermotron
22-03-12, 04:30 PM
Give me one of your own to put up Bish :ok:

I'll add it to the download section too

MrBuckminster
22-03-12, 04:59 PM
http://s16.postimage.org/k5ijucx1h/cisse_qpr.png (http://postimage.org/)


http://s9.postimage.org/8n0hao44f/Cahillchelsea.png (http://postimage.org/)


http://s13.postimage.org/dr1wgnjtz/Citeh.png (http://postimage.org/)

Dermotron
22-03-12, 05:00 PM
Good stuff mate, cheers :ok:

MrBuckminster
22-03-12, 10:24 PM
No worries. Only noticed it when a few lads from SiGames forum mentioned it. :)

MrBuckminster
23-03-12, 05:37 PM
Shouldn't AJ Ajaccio be in Ligue 1 as opposed to Ligue 2?

Patinoz
23-03-12, 05:41 PM
i am not quite sure how you guys done it but ligue 1 in cm is 18 teams and not 20 like irl. so you'd have to leave out teams

MrBuckminster
23-03-12, 05:45 PM
Fair enough. Never really thought about that. Just noticed when looking for Ochoa who has been amazing this season.

Dermotron
23-03-12, 05:45 PM
Indeed. Was a case of the weakest squads on paper being left out since its so tight at the bottom of Ligue 1.

In this case AC Ajaccio and Dijon.


Greece was going to be perfect until the 6 'extra' clubs got re-elected and messed it up

aim-11
15-04-12, 04:54 PM
Brilliant stuffs !!! Just downloaded it and playing it !!!
Cheers!!!

Dermotron
15-04-12, 05:06 PM
Cheers aim, enjoy :ok:

kefamo83vr
15-04-12, 05:24 PM
Hi at all, i just update my cm01-02 with this data update but i saw that Novara Team is still in B division ( italy ) and not in A division, Verona is still in C1 division and not in B division
anyone know why?
thanks

Patinoz
15-04-12, 05:32 PM
the italian league in cm has 18 teams whereas the italian league in real life has 20 teams now. therefore its gonna be a bit of a problem and teams have to be left out.

however, the tapanified version fixes this. i have tried doing one a while ago and it went quite well as well but some other things within the team didnt make it worth finishing.

i will try and tapanify the next september update though

Elliott
16-04-12, 07:52 AM
Error report, just to make you aware (not a complaint!!)

I tried loading ALL leagues including sub-leagues (e.g. conference) on a normal database. I only wanted to do this to see what league teams did not have managers (if any?) as I like to take over a club without a manager if possible when I start. Does anybody know the answer to that by the way?

Before it starts I get following error message: "v3.9.68 Database... cpp 1844"

I then clicked okay and it proceeded to load fine until it was halfway through initialising game data when it crashed out to desktop.

I validated the database (once) and tried it again with same result. And then saw that this can cause other issues (doh) so will have to cancel that! By the way this was without tapanifying the game (didn't like some of the changes it makes such as sacrificing League of Welsh for Northern Premier).

Obviously this could be due to any of the leagues, maybe I'll try testing different combinations to see what happened?

BeezerCeltic1967
16-04-12, 08:23 AM
i can load all leagues on max db mate :ok:

Elliott
16-04-12, 08:50 AM
Problem repeated for me on maximum and minimum databases. To be more accurate, it drops out 2/3rds of the way through initialising game data, not halfway.

I will next reinstate game update and try again with max and min databases to see if that helps.

Fods
16-04-12, 09:08 AM
Ive just checked the old forum as I am sure Id seen that error message before. It does seem to be an error when too many leagues are selected at once....

one of the Solutions was to load all the leagues+Wales apart from Sweden to avoid c.p.p.1844 ...

Dermotron
16-04-12, 09:32 AM
Indeed, use less leagues. Beez is the only one I know who can play all leagues without the error - must have a supercomputer in the basement :lol:


Not sure why anyone would play all leagues on Max DB, sure it opens up a lot of players, leagues but fuck is it slow! (each to their own though, not having a go)

BeezerCeltic1967
16-04-12, 09:36 AM
Indeed, use less leagues. Beez is the only one I know who can play all leagues without the error - must have a supercomputer in the basement :lol:



http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/01/harryporter.jpg

:typing: :clap2:



it's not slow btw, you can fly thru a season, i use all leagues and max db coz i like to keep an eye on everything :ok:

Elliott
16-04-12, 12:29 PM
Ive just checked the old forum as I am sure Id seen that error message before. It does seem to be an error when too many leagues are selected at once....

one of the Solutions was to load all the leagues+Wales apart from Sweden to avoid c.p.p.1844 ...

Thanks I'll try that.


Indeed, use less leagues. Beez is the only one I know who can play all leagues without the error - must have a supercomputer in the basement :lol:


Not sure why anyone would play all leagues on Max DB, sure it opens up a lot of players, leagues but fuck is it slow! (each to their own though, not having a go)

I would like to have a huge mahoosive career spread over many or all of the leagues! Might restrict it to European though :)



it's not slow btw, you can fly thru a season, i use all leagues and max db coz i like to keep an eye on everything :ok:

Doubt my little netbook would cope with that!

Dermotron
16-04-12, 12:34 PM
If you test by dropping a league at a time you'll find out how much your pc/laptop/netbook can handle :ok: Personally, I drop N.Ireland, Wales, Finland, S.Korea and that's generally enough but some have said it can be more/less for them :ok:

Elliott
17-04-12, 11:48 AM
Well yeah. Would make sense to drop Wales but I like it, its a great place to get going because its so bleeding easy! As I say, think I will just do European leagues.

Elliott
18-04-12, 12:50 PM
Okay I have worked out the problem to be with Wales.

I loaded all European leagues so: England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Russia, Poland, Croatia, Greece and Turkey, and this crashed out (although I did not get the error message!)

I cut out Turkey with same result.

I cut out Finand and reinstated Turkey with same result.

I cut out Finland, Turkey and Russia with same result.

I then cut out Wales along with those and it loaded normally.

I then loaded JUST the Welsh league and again it crashed out. So clearly there is a problem with the Welsh league on the new database, something isn't matching up and causing it to freak.

I haven't isolated where the error message is coming from however.

Dermotron
18-04-12, 01:00 PM
If it's cpp.1844 its not related to this database - that's been an error since I joined on the old forum. In fact it's present in the 2007 DB's also.

As the FAQ's says, select less leagues

Fods
18-04-12, 01:18 PM
Refrains from referring to previous posts...

Elliott
18-04-12, 01:39 PM
Well then I'm glad I didn't try to find out what it was!!!

You must excuse my lack of knowledge of what has happened on forums over the last 5 years, I simply haven't been around. This is the first champ man forum I have ever joined. A lot of the stuff on here bemuses me completely, especially what is going on in the Games section - don't worry, I'm not expecting an explanation!

spyda2
19-04-12, 01:31 AM
Hi guys for some reason Benayoun is still at Chelsea and Spaletti is not Zenit manager.. sorry if this has been answered earlier

Fods
19-04-12, 01:42 AM
He is a Chelsea player on loan at Arsenal

spyda2
19-04-12, 02:15 AM
Yeah Fod but in my game he is still in the chelsea squad.. No big deal just wanted to know if the issue is with me. Another thing How do I remove Wales

Fods
19-04-12, 02:33 AM
Are you using a patch? Added any players to Arsenal cos if they have 50 the loan wont show?

spyda2
19-04-12, 03:52 AM
yes I am using the 2.19 patch and no I didnt add any players

Fods
19-04-12, 05:02 AM
Not sure why the loan wouldn't show then. Did you validate the editor or anything before loading up a game?

Dermotron
19-04-12, 09:18 AM
Hi guys for some reason Benayoun is still at Chelsea and Spaletti is not Zenit manager.. sorry if this has been answered earlier

Spaletti was deleted altogether, dunno what happened there :noidea:


Yeah, an extra Arsenal player got added by mistake :rolleyes:

Elliott
19-04-12, 01:30 PM
I've also discovered this with Benayoun still in Chelsea squad. My Sunderland supporting mate also commented that their Paraguayan DM C Cristian Riveros was meant to be on loan to Kayserispor.

Dermotron
19-04-12, 01:42 PM
Benayoun is still a Chelsea player though . . .

If he's loaded the game on min DB, Kayserispor may not be there. He is indeed on loan in the Editor (both are)

spyda2
19-04-12, 11:21 PM
ahh no big deal guys.. thanks for the help.. Minor stuff

Elliott
20-04-12, 10:49 AM
Oh aye, Benayoun is still a Chelsea player, but obviously should be in Arsenal squad. Strange that he didn't end up in Arsenal squad. I loaded a game just with English league on Normal size database. I guess Arsenal already had a full squad perhaps?

In the game where I noticed Riveros, it was a normal sized database with only English leagues loaded. I've just checked and yes, Kayserispor are not on that save game at all so that explains that one at least.

Mark
20-04-12, 11:33 AM
Yeah, Derm has already mentioned about that, Elliott. Somebody added a youth player to the Arsenal squad which filled it up, so the loan for Benayoun doesn't show up.

user45
20-04-12, 04:09 PM
Hi again
Please help me with this World Club Championship again.
I did what @Dermotron said - i deleted with game editor Lluis Vitton stadium. I played a game and it seems to be ok. But now i play another game and i got WCC crash again :Cry: Game crash on first WCC played in Spain on Barcelona and Real Madrid stadiums. Semi finals are played on Bernabeu and Elche stadium and final crash

Hello, Newman
22-04-12, 05:27 PM
Hey guys.

I downloaded the update today and wanted as usual for as long as I can remember (which is 8 years or so with this game) to manage Barca. But I was a bit dissapointed when I saw that Javier Mascherano is still just a Defensive Midfielder. As of last february, I think, he is a regular first team Central Defender, while Pique or even tarzan Puyol are the ones who won't necessarily be opening the match. He was also used as such even in the previous season at lots of opportunities... He is definitely a D\DMC, and one of the best DC in the world at the moment.

BTW, I wouldn't like to cheat and play with Abidal... though I understand why he is actually available. :\

AIA - Great freekin' update u guys! thank you so much.

Patinoz
22-04-12, 05:32 PM
Abidal was fine at the beginning of march when the update was released. it was made public in mid march that he needs a liver transplant

mascherano got 20 for DM and 18 for DC in the editor so he will be a fine DMC too when you play him there.

i am sure in the next update he will be shown as DC / DMC in-game though. not sure I agree with you with one of the best DC in the world but thats besides the point anyway.


thanks for your feedback mate :ok:

Hello, Newman
22-04-12, 05:37 PM
About Abidal - I know, that's why I understood seing him as still available. No complaints there amigo. [:

You mean Masche will be a fine DC, right? well I sure hope so. [:

BTW - If you are a Bayern fan - I'm so with you Wednsday night. Good luck man!!!

Editing: Xavi is a DMC?...... how come?

BeezerCeltic1967
22-04-12, 05:48 PM
Hey guys.

, and one of the best DC in the world at the moment.
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are you for real?
he is an average at best central defender.

Patinoz
22-04-12, 06:04 PM
xavi is all over the place tbh, he get 20 for midfielder in editor which is prolly fine since he can play dmc as well as offense, as with many other players though who age, you tend to move a bit back at the latter part of your career

Hello, Newman
22-04-12, 06:05 PM
Oh I'm for real - are u? when Pique was busy being a main reason for too many goals that barca conceded, and puyol was heading forward to be the attacking DC, mascherano was a defensive treasure, holding the european champion's line of defence many times by himself. If u can't see that, then I do not know what did u see.

Patinoz
22-04-12, 06:42 PM
no need to argue about a player in here now.

rest assured we are all watching football and trying to get the line-ups, positions and players as accurate as possible come september :ok:

Hello, Newman
22-04-12, 06:54 PM
Of course, no argue there my friend.

Thank u thank u thank u, once again!

BeezerCeltic1967
22-04-12, 07:12 PM
Oh I'm for real - are u? when Pique was busy being a main reason for too many goals that barca conceded, and puyol was heading forward to be the attacking DC, mascherano was a defensive treasure, holding the european champion's line of defence many times by himself. If u can't see that, then I do not know what did u see.

:facepalm:

Hello, Newman
22-04-12, 07:36 PM
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Hello, Newman
23-04-12, 12:25 AM
Kinda lost you there hermano, anyway deal with it instead of blaming me.

Fods
23-04-12, 12:27 AM
Its all opinions boys :focus:

shane_r
23-04-12, 10:38 PM
thanks a mill guys keep up the good work :typing:

maurice
24-04-12, 06:31 PM
can't download, says something about a security token being broken

would appreciate some help, thanks fellas

Fods
24-04-12, 06:36 PM
Try this: http://www.champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=file&id=46

Are you logged in?

BeezerCeltic1967
24-04-12, 06:36 PM
lot of people on another site i got to download it said they wer having problems with the update as well. maybe replace the link?

Fods
24-04-12, 06:39 PM
The links fine dude, either people arnt signed in or there firewall is blocking it...

Patinoz
25-04-12, 03:07 PM
can't download, says something about a security token being broken

would appreciate some help, thanks fellas

clear your cache

Faramir
26-04-12, 07:21 PM
i cant download too. actually i cant download any file from this site.
when i try it says "this account is out of bandwith. sorry"
i tried turning firewall off, cleaning cache. same
any suggestions?

Dermotron
26-04-12, 07:29 PM
try now

Dermotron
26-04-12, 07:31 PM
Must be fucking bots on the site.

Total bandwidth yesterday 1.5gb

Today 5.1gb

Grrr, have to re-up a load of stuff

Faramir
26-04-12, 07:39 PM
try now

thanks. it worked.

BeezerCeltic1967
26-04-12, 07:55 PM
Must be fucking bots on the site.

Total bandwidth yesterday 1.5gb

Today 5.1gb

Grrr, have to re-up a load of stuff

was this maybe something to do with people having probs d/loading the update derm?

Dermotron
26-04-12, 08:49 PM
Just today is all.

3weeks only used 1.5gb of downloads
today brought the limit on the account I used up to 5.1gb

Thats a hell of a lot of extra downloads

aim-11
29-04-12, 05:08 PM
Hi all, i had an issue with the update.
I was playing half way thr and when the game reaches at around sep 2010 it came out a database error 1753.
Does it means my patch is wrong?

Patinoz
29-04-12, 05:10 PM
http://www.champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?352-Error-Database-cpp-17353-on-March-2012-Update

strider
07-05-12, 06:54 PM
I'm loving the fact that I can play my favourite game with all of the new players and updated leagues, etc. etc., so a big hats off and thumbs up to everyone involved. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

I do, however, feel that one or two of the Newcastle players have been criminally underrated again. It's no fluke that we're currently 5th in the league with an outside chance of finishing 3rd. [EDIT: And have been in the top 6 all season] And although we don't have any worldclass players, we have players with one or two workdclass attributes. Ben-Arfa's dribbling skills (see Blackburn and Bolton goals) and Cisse's finishing abilities. Coloccini has been absolutely immense for us for the last couple of years and was voted in the PFA team of the year, yet he's decidedly average on the new update. I know the PFA awards came out after this new update was released, but he's been performing at that level for the last 3 seasons now, although I'm painfully aware that one of those seasons was in the championship.

I would love to see it revert more towards the original .68 patch, where players were more inclined to have higher stats for what they are known for, and lower stats for what they weren't well known for. An example in the new update is that Papiss Cisse starts with (on my new game anyway) 15 finishing and 15 passing. Trust me, Cisse cannot pass for toffee, so why not start him with 11 passing and 19 finishing, just to make it that little bit more fun and random?

And if anyone thinks this is a moan towards the update team, it's really not. It's my passion and love for Newcastle and this game that makes me want to talk about these things and try and get it out in the open, and possibly get some answers from the update team as to why certain players are rated as they are. It just feels like there's a downer on Newcastle with every new update. Especially as some of the players we've signed seem to have been downgraded, whereas players that have left us in the past tend to get an upgrade. Jose Enrique being a real classic example, as he isn't half the player now at Liverpool as he was when he was playing for us.

No doubt I'll get some abuse, but it would be nice if someone could acknowledge what I'm trying to say and try and strike up some kind of discussion.

Cheers for now anyway :ok:

Patinoz
07-05-12, 07:01 PM
thanks for the constructive feedback, its appreciated. :ok:

cisse got 16 finishing and 17 movement and 15 passing (perhaps too much, i agree). that was fine for when the update got released.

he might deserve 18 finishing or so but thats about it. i have been watching him the past 2 years in the bundesliga and while he is very good, he isnt world class. he has got an incredible run right now but so did demba ba in the first half of the season and he died down a bit since cisse is there.

i prefer judging players on their last year or 2, not on the past 2 or 3 months.

BeezerCeltic1967
07-05-12, 07:06 PM
some of the points you raised have already been looked at mate :ok:
lower att's for stuff they are not good at etc :ok:
good post bud :ok:

strider
07-05-12, 09:14 PM
thanks for the constructive feedback, its appreciated. :ok:

cisse got 16 finishing and 17 movement and 15 passing (perhaps too much, i agree). that was fine for when the update got released.

he might deserve 18 finishing or so but thats about it. i have been watching him the past 2 years in the bundesliga and while he is very good, he isnt world class. he has got an incredible run right now but so did demba ba in the first half of the season and he died down a bit since cisse is there.

i prefer judging players on their last year or 2, not on the past 2 or 3 months.

He definitely doesn't deserve 15 passing, he is shocking! :lol: And I'm not for one minute suggesting that he is world class, just that what he is good at, he's very good at. I've kept half an eye on Cisse since we were linked with him last summer, and I thought he was excellent in the bundesliga in a struggling team, and have been massively impressed with him since he's been playing for us. Some of the goals he's scored I've simply never seen done before, and those two goals against Chelsea last week were out of the very very top drawer.. He definitely, in my opinion, deserves 20 finishing, if not for those two goals alone! Especially if Michael Owen has 19, and Hernandez has 20. Michael Owen has done absolutely nothing for the past 2 years and simply doesn't warrant 19 finishing. He doesn't even deserve to be in the game. No bitterness from me, honest.


some of the points you raised have already been looked at mate :ok:
lower att's for stuff they are not good at etc :ok:
good post bud :ok:

Excellent stuff, really looking forward to the next update if that's the case, as in this update I find myself looking for 15's and not 20's. It just seems to have lost a bit of that silliness that made it so addictive and fun to play in the first place, that's all.

And cheers for the response people, much appreciated :ok:

Patinoz
07-05-12, 11:20 PM
first of all, as beez and i said, good feedback. i'd appreciate it a lot if you keep it coming, not just for your team but in general.

secondly, no way cisse deserves a 20 for finishing and if its ever gonna become an issue in our update hq, i am the first one to vote against it. my opinion is way different.

We give out 20s for world class player, the top few per cents. cisse doesnt belong to that. period. its my opinion. its his strongest skill, fair enough but 2-3 months of being brilliant aint enough.

its a whole different story that some other guys got 20 or 19. the way to go is to decrease those guys, not increase the others. if we say that owen got 20, so we have to give cisse 20, then if cisse gets 20, that other guy deserves 20 as well etc. etc., we end up having 500 guys with 20s.

not every guy deserves 20s. everybody knows that the new update team follows the former odb way which is the one giving out a lot of 20s etc.

strider
08-05-12, 12:26 AM
I appreciate what you're saying, and you've obviously seen him over a longer period of time at closer quarters, but he is a far better finisher than the poison dwarf that is Michael Owen, who starts the game with 19 finishing. And that's where my gripe comes in. I would also have to strongly disagree that Hernandez is a world class finisher. He's a poacher, and a very good one at that, but please show me one goal that he has scored that is better than either of the ones that Cisse scored against Chelsea last week. You won't be able to, I can assure you.. So there's a little bit of inconsistency going on from my point of view, and it's also a little frustrating, for me, that the Newcastle players seem to get overlooked. I think Karl henry, Sunday league hack merchant, plying his trade at relegated Wolves, has more 20's than the entire Newcastle squad, which is sitting in 5th place with an outside chance of getting into the Champions League. Do you see why maybe I'm a little bit miffed at some of the updating?

And I would also have to strongly disagree that lowering the players attributes is the way to go, as that is what's taken the edge from the game a little bit. The .68 is such a legendary patch for the exact reason that there are sometimes crazy/generous attributes in there, and pretty much the reason for this forum being alive in the first place.

Anyway, it's late here and I need to get up in the morning. Cheers for the reply :ok:

Fods
08-05-12, 12:34 AM
100,000 players in the database, there are going to be a few 'mistakes' if that. But its all opinion at the end of the day.

You can go into the editor and fix these up yourself if you strongly disagree :ok:

Patinoz
08-05-12, 02:03 AM
I appreciate what you're saying, and you've obviously seen him over a longer period of time at closer quarters, but he is a far better finisher than the poison dwarf that is Michael Owen, who starts the game with 19 finishing. And that's where my gripe comes in. I would also have to strongly disagree that Hernandez is a world class finisher. He's a poacher, and a very good one at that, but please show me one goal that he has scored that is better than either of the ones that Cisse scored against Chelsea last week. You won't be able to, I can assure you.. So there's a little bit of inconsistency going on from my point of view, and it's also a little frustrating, for me, that the Newcastle players seem to get overlooked. I think Karl henry, Sunday league hack merchant, plying his trade at relegated Wolves, has more 20's than the entire Newcastle squad, which is sitting in 5th place with an outside chance of getting into the Champions League. Do you see why maybe I'm a little bit miffed at some of the updating?

And I would also have to strongly disagree that lowering the players attributes is the way to go, as that is what's taken the edge from the game a little bit. The .68 is such a legendary patch for the exact reason that there are sometimes crazy/generous attributes in there, and pretty much the reason for this forum being alive in the first place.

Anyway, it's late here and I need to get up in the morning. Cheers for the reply :ok:

i dont think you get what i am saying bro. if i have to decide between decreasing owen's 19 or increasing cisse to 20, i am always gonna pick decreasing owen's and leaving cisse at 18 or so. but i am not even sure if its an issue. i reckon owens injury proness and stamina / nat fitness limits him anyway, strong finishing or not.
i cant give an opinion regarding chicarito, simply cuz i aint english and while i do try to watch most games, i havent seen chicarito much and i aint responsible for the epl in general. we got enough english guys in our team and i trust them a 100%.

and as foddy said, there are like 100 000 players in the db. the original eidos guys didnt get everything right. neither do we. we update cuz its our hobby. we aint getting paid for that. i know you know that and its not your point, some people forget that nonetheless.

its also very subjective. back in the days when i didnt belong to the team, i spammed the german feedback regarding bayern players cuz i felt they were wrongly judged. we all feel strongly about our team. and sometimes we feel that our team gets underrated. you prolly wouldnt notice that badstuber or whoever is underrated in our update. same applies to me (and i am just talking about me) regarding coloccini or so.

i am also not sure regarding karl hendry. tbh i dont even know him.

we got limited resources and while we do try to bang out an amazing update (and if you see it on a wider scale, i am sure most people would agree that we mostly achieve that), we cant please everybody.

i am sure cisse will get a bump for the next update, i am not sure though if its gonna be a 20 for finishing. this will prolly apply to a few newcastle player. i guess they will be a tad stronger next update than they are this, simply cuz of their amazing season.

even with 18 or so in the editor, i am sure cisse is gonna be on 20 finishing after half a season due to his ca. if its still such a big deal for you, change it yourself as foddy suggested. no problem in that.

and as i said, i am not saying decrease the atts on a general scale but i am sure there as many players in our db who are overrated as they are who are underrated. and if you check the good players thread for the update in another thread, you see that there are still some freaks with generous atts there, much like the odb. i would like to refer you to a frenchman called haller there.

swedishcmgod
08-05-12, 08:37 AM
I appreciate what you're saying, and you've obviously seen him over a longer period of time at closer quarters, but he is a far better finisher than the poison dwarf that is Michael Owen, who starts the game with 19 finishing. And that's where my gripe comes in. I would also have to strongly disagree that Hernandez is a world class finisher. He's a poacher, and a very good one at that, but please show me one goal that he has scored that is better than either of the ones that Cisse scored against Chelsea last week. You won't be able to, I can assure you.. So there's a little bit of inconsistency going on from my point of view, and it's also a little frustrating, for me, that the Newcastle players seem to get overlooked. I think Karl henry, Sunday league hack merchant, plying his trade at relegated Wolves, has more 20's than the entire Newcastle squad, which is sitting in 5th place with an outside chance of getting into the Champions League. Do you see why maybe I'm a little bit miffed at some of the updating?

And I would also have to strongly disagree that lowering the players attributes is the way to go, as that is what's taken the edge from the game a little bit. The .68 is such a legendary patch for the exact reason that there are sometimes crazy/generous attributes in there, and pretty much the reason for this forum being alive in the first place.

Anyway, it's late here and I need to get up in the morning. Cheers for the reply :ok:

If I was in charge of EPL I would reduce all english players ca and pa with at least 20, simply because they're shite. Lucky you that I'm not in charge.

If you're having problems finding decent players, I suggest you check out the "good players march 2012 update" or download a scouting tool, you're probably just weak at scouting if you can't find em.

BlazeRavenwolf
08-05-12, 09:17 AM
Thanks for the feedback strider, we all do the best job we can here and we do it for the love of the game we are not paid for this. Also asking questions about how we do things is OK but arguing about it is not so good some of us have been doing this job for years (not me I have only been doing it for 1 update) and they know a lot more about how game & the editor work than a lot of members do. A lots of research & testing goes into the update its not just put together and the thrown out there we all try to give our all but we have real lives too. Also as Swede said scouting is key and you may be weak at scouting (I know I am terrible at scouting). BTW I am an updater but I am not that great at the game so its not about being a great game player. Keep playing the update, mate

I hope you don't think I am being unkind here

Cheers

TT

KEEPING THE GAME ALIVE

MrBuckminster
08-05-12, 10:31 AM
Tbh, if you seen coloccini's woeful attempts at:
a) closing YAYA down for 1st goal
b) Marking YAYA for 2nd goal

I'd say he was overrated in the game. :@

strider
08-05-12, 01:07 PM
100,000 players in the database, there are going to be a few 'mistakes' if that. But its all opinion at the end of the day.

You can go into the editor and fix these up yourself if you strongly disagree :ok:

Of course, I undersatand that, and I wouldn't even know where to start myself.. I'm just trying to make a case for the Newcastle players for the next update and will come back closer to the time and try again. It's only natural that I want my team to be recognised :ok:

strider
08-05-12, 01:13 PM
<snip>

I do understand what you're saying, but like I said to Fodster, I'm just trying to make a claim for my team and some of the players as I do think one or two are quite underrated. And at the end of the day, if no-one pipes up and says anything, then nothing will be discussed in the updating HQ.

Appreciate you taking the time out to answer me anyway, cheers :ok:

strider
08-05-12, 01:17 PM
If I was in charge of EPL I would reduce all english players ca and pa with at least 20, simply because they're shite. Lucky you that I'm not in charge.

If you're having problems finding decent players, I suggest you check out the "good players march 2012 update" or download a scouting tool, you're probably just weak at scouting if you can't find em.

Scouting's not an issue, I'm constantly scouring the globe when I play the game and always find some amazing players.

And if I was in charge, I'd wipe the Swedish leagues out as we don't need that kind of riff raff in the game!

Just kidding of course :lol:

strider
08-05-12, 01:23 PM
Thanks for the feedback strider, we all do the best job we can here and we do it for the love of the game we are not paid for this. Also asking questions about how we do things is OK but arguing about it is not so good some of us have been doing this job for years (not me I have only been doing it for 1 update) and they know a lot more about how game & the editor work than a lot of members do. A lots of research & testing goes into the update its not just put together and the thrown out there we all try to give our all but we have real lives too. Also as Swede said scouting is key and you may be weak at scouting (I know I am terrible at scouting). BTW I am an updater but I am not that great at the game so its not about being a great game player. Keep playing the update, mate

I hope you don't think I am being unkind here

Cheers

TT

KEEPING THE GAME ALIVE

I don't think you're being unkind at all, in fact you've all made some really good points.

And I might have some more luck if our super scout Graham Carr was in the game!

And yeah, I certainly will keep playing the update. I can't bloody well stop...

strider
08-05-12, 01:26 PM
Tbh, if you seen coloccini's woeful attempts at:
a) closing YAYA down for 1st goal
b) Marking YAYA for 2nd goal

I'd say he was overrated in the game. :@

He can't be perfect all the time :ok:

But considering that:
a) He's had Mike Williamson as a partner for the majority of the season, we've had no recognisable left back and have Krul making his debut season.
b) We've kept 15 clean sheets, only third to Man U and City, and
c) Yaya is the best CM in the league, in my opinion, playing in the best team..

I think he deserves a revamp...

Patinoz
08-05-12, 04:37 PM
I do understand what you're saying, but like I said to Fodster, I'm just trying to make a claim for my team and some of the players as I do think one or two are quite underrated. And at the end of the day, if no-one pipes up and says anything, then nothing will be discussed in the updating HQ.


I agree. good that we talked about it.

if you got any more feedback regarding some players, share it. (post in the scouting section though under odb feedback)

you can rest assured that we look at all the stuff being mentioned and try to constantly improve the update :ok:

Dermotron
12-05-12, 10:25 PM
Id say part of the issue with Newcastle is like everyone who follows English football was expecting them to fall apart at some stage, think it's fair to say there is no way we could have legislated for how good they have been. Same goes for how good Cisse has been. Had a decent record but has showed that with even better service he's been more lethal.

In testing they were finishing 5-8th which is/was a realistic aim in February, even diehard Toon fans would have agreed with that :ok:

strider
15-05-12, 01:53 PM
Id say part of the issue with Newcastle is like everyone who follows English football was expecting them to fall apart at some stage, think it's fair to say there is no way we could have legislated for how good they have been. Same goes for how good Cisse has been. Had a decent record but has showed that with even better service he's been more lethal.

In testing they were finishing 5-8th which is/was a realistic aim in February, even diehard Toon fans would have agreed with that :ok:

All fair enough, of course. If we finished 8th it still would have been an excellent season for us, and I would have been more than happy.

And I think the fact that 6 of our first team are in their first full season with us (Krul, Santon, Cabaye, Ben-Arfa, Ba and Cisse - with three of those new to English football) just goes to prove how good these players are and deserve a bit of recognition from the update team. I didn't and don't expect any of them to be rated as world class (whatever that means nowadays) but it would be nice to see the odd 20 in some of the players stats for what they are known for. I.e. Ben-Arfa - dribbling, Tiote - strength, determination, Coloccini - anticipation, Gutierrez - workrate, Krul - jumping...

I Also think we're the only team in the Premiership without one 20 visible amongst the whole squad, so I think I've got a good point in raising some of the things that I have.. :ok:

Fods
15-05-12, 01:55 PM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUNih0vioX-hgI7mwNY7Z6m_ABdyMa6lARcx572xRU0V5pF1OtWA

strider
15-05-12, 06:53 PM
So you don't think I've got a point, Fodster?

I've asked this question here, and a couple of times on the old board and have never received one response, and so I'll ask it again.

How come when a player leaves Newcastle, he is suddenly twice the player? Enrique, Carroll, Barton and Nolan are all vastly better (on the new update) now they have left the club, when in truth, they've all gone downhill as players since leaving us.

I'd love an answer, but I doubt I'll get one.

Dermotron
15-05-12, 07:22 PM
Can you post up screens of each player from each DB (presume Feb 2011 and Sept 2011)?

Nolan and Barton didn't improve imo.

Enrique and Carroll were moving to better clubs at the time, careers were on the up. Carroll was torn apart for Feb so saying he's better since Sept is false.

Enrique has kept on improving, pretty simple really

strider
15-05-12, 08:19 PM
Can you post up screens of each player from each DB (presume Feb 2011 and Sept 2011)?

Nolan and Barton didn't improve imo.

Enrique and Carroll were moving to better clubs at the time, careers were on the up. Carroll was torn apart for Feb so saying he's better since Sept is false.

Enrique has kept on improving, pretty simple really

Nolan and Barton definitely have improved (in the updates) since leaving us. I don't have any screens, but if you point me in the right direction as to how to install multiple DB's, then I'll happily do it.

As for Enrique and Carroll moving to better clubs at the time, that's a fair comment, but I remember right back when the ODB was taking off, it was promised that a player wouldn't improve solely because he was playing for a better side, and that he would be judged on his current talent.

And leaving Carroll aside, as he was a bit of an unknown quantity when playing for us, Enrique has gone massively downhill since leaving Newcastle. He is half the player, and if you'd watched him over the last 2-3 years, you would absolutely know this. There's no argument there mate, I'm afraid.

Patinoz
15-05-12, 08:32 PM
mate, just relax and wait for the new update. i told you before, it'll all be looked at it and you gonna like it :ok:

there is no point in dragging it up again and again. we took notice of it.

strider
15-05-12, 08:58 PM
I've just got too much time on my hands at the minute :lol:

Topofthekop
16-05-12, 02:37 PM
Nolan and Barton definitely have improved (in the updates) since leaving us. I don't have any screens, but if you point me in the right direction as to how to install multiple DB's, then I'll happily do it.

As for Enrique and Carroll moving to better clubs at the time, that's a fair comment, but I remember right back when the ODB was taking off, it was promised that a player wouldn't improve solely because he was playing for a better side, and that he would be judged on his current talent.

And leaving Carroll aside, as he was a bit of an unknown quantity when playing for us, Enrique has gone massively downhill since leaving Newcastle. He is half the player, and if you'd watched him over the last 2-3 years, you would absolutely know this. There's no argument there mate, I'm afraid.


Carroll is a fair judgement.. Enrique in my opinion has been great for us this season, yes he hasnt been spectacular but overall he has been solid in defence and at times going forward has been great. He is also new to the club and the players he is playing with and I expected a dip in form at some stage which happened towards end of the season.

2-3 years ago - when newcastle got relegated he was piss poor, he had a reasonable but not spectacular season in championship and then a solid season back in the prem. In my opinion his stats at present represent how good he is, he dont deserve more and he deffo dont deserve to be taken down a few either.

Where as in my opinion Ben arfa dont deserve 20 for dribbling, same as cisse dont deserve a 20 for finishing. At best both of those stats deserve at max 17, with CA/PA they will both have the "Chance" to improve over the course of their CM careers.

trunky
17-05-12, 12:43 PM
Have a small problem guys.

Have been bored waiting for my chicken to cook...don't ask...so deleted CM and re installed it. Added the official patch and then the ODB update but this seems to hang the new save at the "initialising game data" stage (around 2/3rd's of the way through).

This has worked before but all I get now is the game hanging.

Any suggestions?

Dermotron
17-05-12, 12:54 PM
Read this thread - http://www.champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?429-How-to-Install-March-2012-Data-Update - and post any further issues there :ok:

wato20
17-05-12, 12:54 PM
U need to Run CM as Administrator...

Enjoy your chicken...

trunky
17-05-12, 12:58 PM
Thanks for this...forgot to tick the bloody box!

Fods
17-05-12, 01:21 PM
if you'd of cooked Beef you wouldn't of had that problem :slap:

trunky
17-05-12, 01:43 PM
if you'd of cooked Beef you wouldn't of had that problem :slap:

Can't cook beef as the missus has demanded a chicken and leek pie. Seeing as I had a whole chicken in the fridge, and I needed chicken, did I say she wanted chicken and leek pie?, I smothered the chicken in butter and chucked it in the oven.:wave:

Fods
17-05-12, 01:46 PM
Can't cook beef as the missus has demanded a chicken and leek pie. Seeing as I had a whole chicken in the fridge, and I needed chicken, did I say she wanted chicken and leek pie?, I smothered the chicken in butter and chucked it in the oven.:wave:

probably not the best way to cook pie :slap:

trunky
17-05-12, 01:54 PM
probably not the best way to cook pie :slap:

But I need the chicken cooked before I make the pastry for the pie. It is going to be a chicken and leek pie after all. With chicken.

Sod it...I'll just drink the IPA I have in the fridge!


Is there a list of ODB update good players for crap clubs anywhere? Maximum cost of around a grout plus all the dung you can eat?

Dermotron
17-05-12, 02:05 PM
These are the really cheap lads that Dubinho found - http://www.champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?1109-Useful-Free-players-with-low-wage-requirements-(March-2012-Update)

There's another list in the same forum for general good players

Fods
17-05-12, 02:05 PM
Cook BEEF

yeh, tactics thread :ok:

trunky
17-05-12, 08:55 PM
And do you know what? It was in the tactics thread all along. I wish someone had told me that :nana:

trunky
21-05-12, 01:00 PM
Is Steed Malbranque really Belgian?

Dermotron
21-05-12, 01:04 PM
Belgian born Frenchman. Retired since March so he'll be deleted either way :ok:

trunky
21-05-12, 01:49 PM
Belgian born Frenchman. Retired since March so he'll be deleted either way :ok:

Oh...fair enough. Just noticed he was in the Belgian squad in the World Cup Finals.

webaslan67
25-05-12, 12:14 AM
thank you

swedishcmgod
28-05-12, 09:13 PM
Scouting's not an issue, I'm constantly scouring the globe when I play the game and always find some amazing players.

And if I was in charge, I'd wipe the Swedish leagues out as we don't need that kind of riff raff in the game!

Just kidding of course :lol:

Everyone knows that the swedes are essential to cm0102, if you pick the swedish league you are bound to see at least one swede in every club in every team (pretty much), and that's how you play cm0102 :ok:

Dzontra85
31-05-12, 11:50 PM
Can someone help me ? I have this marsc 2012 odb style....how I can put good player ratings (20,19)to be with red color. Thanks :)

Patinoz
31-05-12, 11:53 PM
tapani 2.19

13Julia
07-06-12, 05:34 PM
Will you guys work on the polish league? I'm playing english league now with normal DB and the player/staff propositions of Poles are let's say a bit odd : ) is it completely random or reputation-based? And maybe can it be a little bit adjusted to match the current situation?

Coys
07-06-12, 05:42 PM
Welcome to the forum :rolleyes:

How about you start by giving the team some feedback? how are they supposed to know what they need to work on if nobody tells them?

http://www.champman0102.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?121-Poland

Dermotron
07-06-12, 06:29 PM
Will you guys work on the polish league? I'm playing english league now with normal DB and the player/staff propositions of Poles are let's say a bit odd : ) is it completely random or reputation-based? And maybe can it be a little bit adjusted to match the current situation?

Hi mate. Not entirely sure was you mean by propositions - CA/PA, positions, reps? The majority of the stuff for this DB was supplied by a Pole on the old forum (petermf). Of course there are our own guidelines we follow too.

What to do mean by the last question?

13Julia
08-06-12, 01:14 AM
I was wondering about the available player list when playing other leagues. For example, while I play the English league (normal database, not max), the players available for me from the polish league are not the best ones, there are a lot of div 2, 3 players who are, hmm...unknown to me, surely they exist thou, but why do they even appear instead of the good ones ;p So I was thinking, is it the reputation system or it's just random draft by the engine?

Because for another example, we get Wawrzyniak and Wolski(from Legia) in all databases always (which is good, they're known here), so they're not random appearing, while a lot of unknown div_3 are. Or should I just play the maxed database, and it's an abstract problem I came up with? :P

Coys
08-06-12, 01:30 AM
Are you selecting the polish league in foreground or background? If not...

The Normal database includes all players in some way associated with your selected leagues (i.e. They play in that league or are of a nationality associated with the league) and also all players who are at other major clubs in the world. The Minimum database only includes all the players in active teams (i.e. Those teams who are actually in an active division) and those who have high world reputations.

The actual players available will be slightly different each time you play the game, as there is a random factor in selecting which minor players are loaded into the game.

Dermotron
08-06-12, 06:23 PM
On Max DB every player with a negative PA, future transfer or International Cap will load.

I do be believe Coys post is from Marc Vaughans guide so you can take it as that's the way the game decides, there's not a lot we can influence on normal database unlike Max. DB

Coys
08-06-12, 06:36 PM
You are correct Derm :P

rovers
08-06-12, 11:25 PM
First off all, great work on updating the players and teams :-)

Second, I would like to raise some contructive feedback on player creations (no it is not related to SIM - ODB).

I have been playing a few different clubs in different english leagues.
There is a thing that strike me as strange. To many players on top salary in clubs and to many players don't want to sign a new contract or want to move to a bigger club.
This is way different from the original SI 3.68 pathc (I do play it now and then still).

My findings from research is:
Back in the 3.68, players had rarely current reputation close to their current ability, except for the biggest stars.
This even goes for the promising and well known premier league players.
Players had a bigger gap between current abilityand potential ability.

A few examples from 3.68:
David Dunn CA=150, PA=180, Current rep=120
Tim Cahill CA=135, PA=169, CR=100
Steven Reid CA=130, PA=135, CR 60
Paul Ifill CA=125, PA=150, CR=35
Danny Allsopp CA=127, PA=153, CR=70

And the list could go on...


In the ODB, most players have current rep=current ability.
In the lower divisions, I rarely see players with a big gap between CA and PA, which leads to the players starting with rep close to PA.

This is probably the reason for the high amount of players in lower divisions (below PL) being unhappy and want to move to a bigger club and not sign a new contract.


Has this issue been discussed earlier and is this a preferred method you have landed on?

Dermotron
08-06-12, 11:38 PM
We've been discussing the players wanting to move to bigger clubs issue a lot recently so rest assured it'll be cracked soon and implemented asap :ok:


Hmmm, salaries is slightly a nuisance as it's tied to club and league rep. If you don't set the contracts, the cpu will assign them there or thereabouts the correct wage but as you've pointed out, those with CR on the higher end tend to get banded together and at some clubs this will be the limit. Downside is clubs go broke a bit quicker (not really an issue in CM0102 though, esp in England) and the bigger issue of players wanting new contracts.

We reckon if the current rep and the club rep issue can be cracked (they are both related along with league rep), we wont need to assign wages to any players :ok:

There are some silly things within the game itself to contend with though.In a test a semi-pro club with a rep of 7 could offer a top wage of 725 p/w but once you changed it to pro the max wage was 5,250 p/w (league rep was also 7). Its hard to legislate for that calculation.


You are most definitely along the right lines though in terms of CR and rep being related (CA/PA don't have as much a bearing at all really) and WR is geared a lot more to the players market value.

rovers
09-06-12, 12:38 AM
Great to hear you are on to it :-)

Another thing about the rep being set this high, is the problem making a bargain at a smaller club.
They all seem to want top dollars plus a min fee along.

I did a start on Sheff W.
Almost the entire team had £1.800 a week...
I would think there should be a difference between star players, squad players, backups and prospects.
I assume when the rep reaches a ceirtain lvl compared to league and club rep, they are considered "stars".

shikaka
29-06-12, 08:03 AM
In some cases I encounter a problem with B team players.

There is a kid (Elliot KEbbie) in Athletico Madrid, who starts at "B". When you promote him to the A squad, he doesn't become a first team member, but is playing in "Athletico Madrid Reserves" which doesn't even exist.
You cannot do anything with that player, just sell him (or release and resign).


There are a few others like this (mostly in Spain, but I remember that I had a similar issue in 1860 München/1860 München A a DBupdate or two ago), I THINK(!) this is because they have contract to the B team, not the A.

Fods
29-06-12, 08:32 AM
I think this is because they are put in Athletico Madrid in the editor but their squad status is set to reserve player. Try setting it to first team and it should be ok

Fods
29-06-12, 08:34 AM
yeh thought so...

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8712/86235033.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/86235033.jpg/)

Retro
21-07-12, 10:44 AM
anyone else having the game just crash in February/March 2012? No changes made to data and it happens every time?

Fods
21-07-12, 10:48 AM
What year u start in? What leagues selected?

Retro
21-07-12, 12:13 PM
Started in 2011, England and Scotland. Thanks for quick reply man, wish I'd noticed it earlier!

AMC
21-07-12, 12:20 PM
Don't start in 2011.

Goofy
21-07-12, 12:22 PM
Nothing to do with the update mate, thats a patch issue, you cant start the game in 2011 or it will crash. I believe it says as much in the patch description when you download it

Retro
21-07-12, 12:35 PM
argh, I thought it was 2010. Ok, thanks guys.

SCOTTCHAMPMASTER
26-07-12, 01:44 AM
hi where can i get the march 2012 download then as i have not been online for good while now and cannot find it< has it changed site? any help would be greatful with new season approaching

Dr.Football1
26-07-12, 01:49 AM
http://www.champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=file&id=46

Fods
26-07-12, 02:03 AM
edit: Already posted

aimaad22
29-07-12, 01:11 PM
Great stuff, was looking for this for a while! Big thankyou to everyone involved!

Does the game have to start from 01? Or this there a way of making it start from 2012?

Fods
29-07-12, 01:13 PM
Can start from 2010 using one of the Tapani Patch's

http://www.champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=cat&id=4

Dont start in 2011 or 2012 as it will crash the game :ok:

ubichanel
06-08-12, 04:32 PM
Ciao, alla fine hai risolto? Anche io ho lo stesso problema...Serie A a 18 squadre (invece di 20) e 4 retrocessioni (non 3); Serie B con 4 promozioni e non 3. Fammi sapere please, Ciao e grazie

Topofthekop
06-08-12, 04:33 PM
Ciao, alla fine hai risolto? Anche io ho lo stesso problema...Serie A a 18 squadre (invece di 20) e 4 retrocessioni (non 3); Serie B con 4 promozioni e non 3. Fammi sapere please, Ciao e grazie

ENGLISH only please!!!

Fods
06-08-12, 09:44 PM
He said please

michel1984
13-09-12, 09:52 PM
Hi all!

the update is great. But I the players acceleration etc, are to low. I played with a club from the conference division in England, and som players have a few 3 2 1 5 5 6 9.
It was much nice when they had a little higher points. Then i could tell better which player was better form the other one!

greetz

BeezerCeltic1967
13-09-12, 09:58 PM
Hi all!

the update is great. But I the players acceleration etc, are to low. I played with a club from the conference division in England, and som players have a few 3 2 1 5 5 6 9.
It was much nice when they had a little higher points. Then i could tell better which player was better form the other one!

greetz

I agree with this, just coz a player plays in a lower league does not mean he is slower than players in higher leagues, if you give us examples of players we will get it sorted for you.

BeezerCeltic1967
13-09-12, 09:58 PM
Ciao, alla fine hai risolto? Anche io ho lo stesso problema...Serie A a 18 squadre (invece di 20) e 4 retrocessioni (non 3); Serie B con 4 promozioni e non 3. Fammi sapere please, Ciao e grazie

i agree totally :ok:

wato20
14-09-12, 10:36 AM
he said something along the lines of..

Hi, in the end you solved it? Also i have the same problem.
Serie A of 18 teams (instead of 20) and 4 relegations (not 3); Serie B with 4 promotions and not 3.
Please let me know please, hello and thanks

michel1984
15-09-12, 11:25 AM
Thanks mate.

In my opinion, the players were a little better in the early days.
For example compare messi with Modric. there wont be allot of difference.

JAS
20-09-12, 11:00 AM
I have noticed in my games Ajax still manage to attract big name to the club eg.Mesut Ozil,Andres Iniesta,Sergio Aguero,Toni Kroos and so on.Ajax also spend big time.In real life that happens no more Maybe the reputation has to lower

Dermotron
20-09-12, 11:03 AM
They have been toned down quiet a bit since :ok:

wato20
20-09-12, 11:28 AM
Ajax, in my last game, it was about 6 years into the Future,
but they had a front 3 of

Ibrahimovic who was about 35
Rooney who was 31
Fernando Torres who was 33.