View Full Version : Challenge 5 - Who's your Fritz?

Craig Forrest
03-03-12, 04:36 AM

Fritz Walter (31/10/1920 - 17/06/2002)

Under the guidance of Sepp Herberger, in 1954, Germany won their first ever World Cup. The manner in which the Germans won the Jules Rimet Cup was so inspiring that it went down in history of "the Miracle of Bern" (Das Wunder von Bern)...Rent the movie!

In no small part was this due to their star player, prodigal Fritz Walter, that Germany beat the Mighty Magyars in the final, after previously having been beaten by them earlier in the tournament. This particular win sparked the German reputation that still goes today; "German sides aren't beaten until they're back in their team bus" and as Gary Bigears said "...and in the end, the Germans have won."

This Challenge will have you trying to recapture that glorious moment!


Your Challenge starts right after the Fifa World Cup Final in South Africa and sets you on the road to Rio!

You'll take over the German National Team in 2010 (make sure the Germans don't win the 2010 WC!!) and try to get them crowned as The Kings of Football in the Home of Football, Brasil!

As you all know, the 1954 victory was partly inspired by a system that later (actually, right after the tournament) became known as the WM (weltmeister) system. It featured 5 attackers deployed in a W and 5 defenders on the pitch in an M formation. Looks like this:


This is the formation you'll have to use. Arrows and instructions are all up to you, but mind you: this is a non-wibwob challenge!!

To make it a little harder (yes, we ARE bastards), your squad may consist only of U-25 players, at the start of your campaign!

Additionally, you may pick one of your players to be your Fritz.
Fritz's goals and assists will be worth gold, as they will translate into a massive amount of bonus points!


With an all U-25 at the start, in the famous (but non-wibbed) WM system!
-Have your Fritz crowned as Golden Boot!


-Use March 2009 Update with Tapani patch
-Do not wib and do not wob
-Pick only players under the age of 25 (date of check:31 august 2010) (that means that any replacement player/ regen you call up cannot be older than 29 come 31 august 2014)
-Pick a Fritz in advance

I'm sure we'll add rules as we go...

Requirements (screens):

-An overview of your starting squad (age)
-An overview of manager stats after final game
-An overview of fixtures played
-A screen of every achievement (qualification, golden boot, etc)
-A screen of Fritz every year

We may add some along the way...


1000 pts for winning the World Cup
500 for second place
300 for third place
150 for fourth place

100 for reaching quarter finals
50 points for qualifying

10 points per goal scored in an official match (non friendly)

500 for having Fritz win the Golden Boot
300 for having Fritz win second place
150 for having Fritz win third place


For every goal and every assist Fritz makes, you get ten extra points!

(For example, Mario Gomez, as your Fritz, plays 25 matches in the challenges and scores 20 with 5 assists. He would then earn you 250 extra points.)

Possible ways to cheat:

-use older players in matches that do not require screenies
-use wibwob techniques anyway
-use a different formation in the games themselves
-take over a club and train your Fritz under a different manager name

No way on Earth can we exclude all ways to cheat. Again, we aren't the Challenge Gestapo...

So, please, play in the spirit of the game and stick to the rules,ok?


You can choose to create the game yourself, or download a pre-loaded save
Save Game

15-01-13, 12:24 AM
Giving this a whirl - Gomez will be my Fritz!

15-01-13, 12:39 AM
Game 1 in Euro Quals - strong start! (and from my Fritz!) :)


15-01-13, 01:39 AM
How did this never get any interest? sounds great!

15-01-13, 07:45 PM
Best of luck Red :ok:

18-01-13, 11:20 PM
Righto - challenge complete!

Challenge 5 - Who's your Fritz?

Fritz chosen was MARIO GOMEZ

Friendlies and Euro qualification all went well. Euro 2012 went even better as we only went and won the damn thing! Top stuff and formation working well with youngsters. Fritz even got a mention!

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/5996/eurochamps2012.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/eurochamps2012.png/)

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9475/fritzstars.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/801/fritzstars.png/)

Again - World Cup Quals all went well and GOMEZ had a good couple of seasons and generally scored well as Fritz (more of that below).

Sadly - he wasn't really firing during World Cup. We got through the group and then had Holland in 2nd round - tough draw!

We went a man down - DISASTER!

But ended up wining anyway 2-0 - :)

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4181/2ndroundy.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/2ndroundy.png/)

Quarter Final and again - tough draw vs a Ronaldo inspired Portgual

Started off by going into the lead but Portugal overpowered us and won 3-1 :(

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8645/quarterfinal.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/quarterfinal.png/)

The end of my adventure!

Pretty gutted actually as we showed great form for the years leading up to it

100 points for getting to Quarter Finals
Fritz was nowehere near golden boot :(
Assist and Goals from Fritz for entire challenge = 280 points

Total points challenge = 380 points

All Fixtures, Manager Stats/Squad Age and Fritz Goals/Assist are all in the links below

Thanks for an enjoyable challenge guys!

http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/266/stats1m.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/stats1m.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/13/2010fixtures.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/2010fixtures.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/854/2011d.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/2011d.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/248/2012l.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/2012l.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/22/2013g.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/22/2013g.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/18/2014j.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/2014j.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/405/game1fritz40points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/game1fritz40points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/526/game8fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/game8fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/442/game16fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/game16fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/138/statsdm.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/statsdm.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/707/game15fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/game15fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/198/game7fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/game7fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/525/game6fritz20points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/game6fritz20points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/46/game14fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/game14fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/856/germanysquadage.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/germanysquadage.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/35/game20fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/game20fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/266/game12fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/game12fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/560/game5fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/game5fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/690/game4fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/game4fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/836/game11fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/game11fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/834/game19fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/game19fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/6/game18fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/game18fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/27/game10fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/game10fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/27/game3fritz30points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/game3fritz30points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/824/game2fritz30points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/game2fritz30points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/138/game9fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/game9fritz10points.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/541/game17fritz10points.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/game17fritz10points.png/)

18-01-13, 11:31 PM
Well done on completing this mate.

23-11-13, 01:30 PM
Starting this :ok:

23-11-13, 01:37 PM
"-Pick only players under the age of 25 (date of check:31 august 2010) (that means that any replacement player/ regen you call up cannot be older than 29 come 31 august 2014)"

that 29 age is wrong right?

I started at 3/7/2010 is that ok?

got it, august 2014 :ok:

25-11-13, 10:58 AM
As i read about the WM tactic, i think those mc's should be DMC's imho :)

Craig Forrest
04-12-13, 04:32 PM
You're free to think whatever you want :D

05-12-13, 06:03 PM
Took control of the "B" and the U-21's also, probably first time in any national career. Good to find right players :ok:

"B" team doesnt have a fixture tho.

16-01-14, 09:39 AM
awesome challenge this. Wonder who thinks up beauty like this?

Craig Forrest
16-01-14, 04:03 PM
some smart guy no doubt.... probably a heavy metal fan too :ok:

04-11-14, 04:16 PM
Bonjour la compagnie!
A question: 10 points per goal scored in an official match (non friendly), ok. But what about the goals and the assists of my Fritz on friendly games?

08-11-14, 01:24 PM
Friendlies don't count, nothing stopping you from arranging a ton of friendlies so your Fritz scores/assists more.

10-11-14, 11:57 AM
How can you arrange friendlies? I don't know how to do this as a national manager!!!

10-11-14, 11:59 AM
Apologies mate, forgot you manage the national team! No you can't arrange international friendlies unfortunately, but no points can be earned from friendlies though.

10-11-14, 07:28 PM
What an original challenge! Just finished it! Semi finalist of the WC!!!

12-11-14, 12:03 PM
So, my Fritz was Mario Gomez, an original choice...:suspicious:
2010-2011: http://imgur.com/oRu3iSM
2011-2012: http://imgur.com/ruATL7c
2012-2013: http://imgur.com/FS0XL45
2013-2014: http://imgur.com/IZQkIKu
2014-2015: http://imgur.com/Jg5XkLl

Here my first selection of german players: http://imgur.com/9dEhwDZ

2010: http://imgur.com/HeKDpEN
2011: http://imgur.com/LyrakYN
2012: http://imgur.com/c7QGLRW
2013: http://imgur.com/d1X5vtB
2014: http://imgur.com/lx6bkSd

Stats Manager: http://imgur.com/njA6UUL

My tactic and regular team: http://imgur.com/xO58chY

*300 pts for my Fritz (-50 pts for the friendlies): 250 pts
Here the screenshots of the friendlies:

*640 pts for goals with the Manschaft in official games.
*150 pts for finishing 4th of the 2014's World Cup.
Total: 1040 pts

31-07-15, 03:25 PM
Gomez will be my fritz, wanted to try someone other, but, then agian, how can I not choose gomez -.-

23-03-16, 11:29 AM
Hi guys! I started this today! Into the firts 3 games I use Gomez.... only 1 gol an 1 assist....I think its' time to change....I choose Robert Tesche 21yo from Wolfsburg.....2 games 7 goals and 1 assit! He's a beast!

Craig Forrest
23-03-16, 03:03 PM
If you change your "Fritz" then you need to restart the challenge I think....

23-03-16, 09:07 PM
If you change your "Fritz" then you need to restart the challenge I think....

Really? For me is not a problem! I think that was an handicap for me, because I lost 3 game....so, tomorrow I restart! :)

Craig Forrest
23-03-16, 09:08 PM
Ya, I think you need to pick who your Fritz is and not change him

or just don't tell anyone :P

23-03-16, 09:10 PM
Ah ok! I'm a stupid!:peace:

23-03-16, 09:24 PM
:doh: :lol:

03-05-17, 08:06 PM
So to get over the frustrations I've been having on Challenge 4 I thought this would be an easy distraction, you can fly through seasons as a national manager...

That formation though I do not like. First play through I was doing terribly, then I reread it and saw we could have arrows so started again using the following tactic:


(Note, not my strongest starting lineup, just what started my final game, what with injuries, fitness etc).

Obviously I chose Mario Gomez as my Fritz (it doesn't appear like there was another possibility) and he did okay, scoring a total of 16 goals and providing two assists, giving a total of 180 bonus points.

My team itself still struggled all the way through, particularly in friendlies (only scored in two friendlies, screen shots provided to show the goals/assists), but remarkably, when it came to the Euros we went and won it! Thanks to the typical German ruthlessness of penalties in the quarters against Spain, the easy draw of England in the semis and a Bastian Schweinsteiger golden goal in the final against Portugal.

Despite this, throughout the World Cup qualifying campaign the fans weren't happy, and after defeat against Switzerland left us 2nd in the group the board were also wavering. Fortunately Switzerland lost away at Albania meaning a draw in our last game against Azerbaijan (the second 0-0 they held us to) was enough to qualify top of the group, and though the board weren't sure it was enough to keep the job.

Then came the finals themselves, the group stages were relatively comfortable, 5 goals scored and none conceded against Belgium, Kuwait and Egypt seeing us top the group with 9 points, however Fritz was not firing, he had hardly had a kick and was yet to contribute more than one assist. Then the Round of 16 seemed to be going worse, as Gomez himself gives away a penalty to put us one down to Chile. This was obviously the kick up the backside he needed and was inspired for the rest of the game scoring the two crucial goals we needed to squeeze through.

The supposedly tougher test of Argentina followed, and it wasn't looking that way as Gomez again gave us the lead... however disaster struck in the 71st minute as the now confident talisman (who had signed for Spurs and then Barca in the game) picked up an injury. That was the motivation Argentina needed and with an 88 minute winner they took our place in the semis... They went on to lose in the final to Spain. The German team can at least hold their heads up high, unlike Italy who were knocked out in the Round of 16 by Iraq!

Anyway total points I believe as below:


Full screen shots here:


15-11-17, 03:39 PM
Well...this turned out to be a disaster first time around but thought id post it for a giggle all time low score anyway lol

So turns out im not that great with the WM formation and got sacked before i even got to the world cup haha

Points as follow:

400 points for goals scored
and my Fritz (Gomez as everyone else) 180 points after friendlies....

so a grand total of 580 haha :D may have to attempt this one again..

https://imgur.com/a/eHbZl - pictures

06-07-18, 07:59 AM
Starting this, and in an attempt to be different, Podolski will be my fritz.

06-07-18, 08:09 AM
Great, have fun mate!

09-07-18, 04:58 PM
Well. What can I say

The challenge wasn't going amazing. But had qualified for the WC through the playoffs by beating Switzerland, and was mid WC.

Portugal, Togo and Qatar in my group was quite straightforward. Lost to Portugal then beat Togo and Qatar fairly easily.

Then this happens, the next day...

Strange one that. Absolutely Mannschaft-ed

11-07-18, 05:09 PM
Started this already with this WM. In my savegame, Japan won 2010 world cup.

https://preview.ibb.co/h7pfHT/2010wc.jpg (https://ibb.co/fRV9Bo)
https://preview.ibb.co/bu7ZcT/tactic.jpg (https://ibb.co/mwzfHT)

My Fritz is a relatively unknown uncapped player from D2 "Lemke" who feels he is ready for first team football. My squad right after date of check

https://preview.ibb.co/c5VUcT/fritz0.jpg (https://ibb.co/m6dt48)
https://preview.ibb.co/eLgPBo/u_25_datecheck.jpg (https://ibb.co/g00vHT)

12-07-18, 03:42 PM
Done with tons of screenshots, 1,080 points. My tactic and first team

https://preview.ibb.co/kYzgbo/regular_squad.jpg (https://ibb.co/jWFyNT)

2010: 8 Goals for Germany, 5 of which are from Lemke

https://preview.ibb.co/j0sW98/2010.jpg (https://ibb.co/nLUYNT)
https://preview.ibb.co/gvThGo/fritz1.jpg (https://ibb.co/cS8hGo)
https://preview.ibb.co/d6Upwo/lg201001.jpg (https://ibb.co/iVYGbo)
https://preview.ibb.co/d7F7hT/lg201005.jpg (https://ibb.co/fnZdp8)

2011: 15 Goals for Germany, 5 of which are from Lemke

https://preview.ibb.co/g3eiNT/2011.jpg (https://ibb.co/eV3A2T)
https://preview.ibb.co/eyQ198/fritz2.jpg (https://ibb.co/cAOXGo)
https://preview.ibb.co/cLQONT/lg201107.jpg (https://ibb.co/bRQewo)
https://preview.ibb.co/jS7EU8/lg201108.jpg (https://ibb.co/m0iop8)
https://preview.ibb.co/jzRf2T/lg201109.jpg (https://ibb.co/bPBr98)
https://preview.ibb.co/kLSnhT/lg201110.jpg (https://ibb.co/gUytNT)

2012: 19 Goals for Germany, 4 of which are from Lemke + 1 assist

https://preview.ibb.co/iuEdp8/2012.jpg (https://ibb.co/iAeYNT)
https://preview.ibb.co/eZOtNT/fritz3.jpg (https://ibb.co/mc29wo)
https://preview.ibb.co/gXjYNT/lg201211.jpg (https://ibb.co/hvtShT)
https://preview.ibb.co/n54YNT/lg201212.jpg (https://ibb.co/kXU02T)
https://preview.ibb.co/dFz02T/lg201213.jpg (https://ibb.co/je3ShT)
https://preview.ibb.co/n9w2Go/lg201214.jpg (https://ibb.co/mbLUwo)
https://preview.ibb.co/juohGo/lg201214a1.jpg (https://ibb.co/bJYtNT)

2013: 17 Goals for Germany, 6 of which are from Lemke

https://preview.ibb.co/mQV198/2013.jpg (https://ibb.co/fF8op8)
https://preview.ibb.co/if7sGo/fritz4.jpg (https://ibb.co/j5zTp8)
https://preview.ibb.co/hKMV2T/lg201316.jpg (https://ibb.co/cnZ6bo)
https://preview.ibb.co/knVONT/lg201317.jpg (https://ibb.co/b3puU8)
https://preview.ibb.co/hzJop8/lg201319.jpg (https://ibb.co/fZQCGo)
https://preview.ibb.co/jSfONT/lg201320.jpg (https://ibb.co/cjichT)

2014: 10 Goals for Germany, 3 of which are from Lemke

https://preview.ibb.co/eq6PU8/2014.jpg (https://ibb.co/j6TtNT)
https://preview.ibb.co/gOoShT/fritz5.jpg (https://ibb.co/bzj02T)
https://preview.ibb.co/hLz02T/lg201421.jpg (https://ibb.co/moK02T)
https://preview.ibb.co/nuuB98/lg201422.jpg (https://ibb.co/kMKdp8)
https://preview.ibb.co/jDUB98/lg201423.jpg (https://ibb.co/cmxL2T)

Manager Stats

https://preview.ibb.co/bA9B98/manager_stats.jpg (https://ibb.co/mwZNGo)
https://preview.ibb.co/jyW2Go/manager_stats2.jpg (https://ibb.co/eh9YNT)

69 goals Fritz 23 goals and 1 assist: 690 + 230 + 10 points

4th place in World Cup 2014: 150 points

https://preview.ibb.co/cXNZwo/2014wc.jpg (https://ibb.co/fiYw98)
https://preview.ibb.co/nuSbbo/u_29_after_WC.jpg (https://ibb.co/hX6r98)

Total of 1,080 points

22-06-19, 06:44 PM

Can anyone help me? I want to play challenge 5, but the pre-loaded game link doesnt work.
Can someone give me a link?


23-06-19, 05:41 AM
You can just start a new game with required patch and database

23-06-19, 07:15 AM
And which patch is required?

23-06-19, 10:15 AM

23-06-19, 10:22 AM

26-01-20, 09:50 AM
I am back doing challenges after a long break... Going to try and complete them all after years of trying.

Going start with this one. Just testing WM formation. My Fritz will be Gomez.

29-01-20, 11:28 PM
Squad at start... Gomez was my Fritz
https://i.postimg.cc/N0XYWzpW/Squad-age-start.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Didnt play gomez in any friendlys. All goals and assists in euros and world cup. Gomez was very streaky and injury prone!

2010 Total goals 6 assits 1 = 70pts

2011 Total goals 2 assist 2 = 40pts

2012 Total goals 7 = 70pts

2013 Total goals 10 = 100pts

2014 Total goals 3 =30pts

Semi final of the euros and formation and tactics going well, Gomez did have a few injuries.
Total Goals = 28 Assists = 3 Total Bonus points = 310pts

final squad and formation
https://i.postimg.cc/JzsSbZVP/Formation-and-1st-team.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Gomez got injured in the 1st game of the world cup after scoring! Managed to get back for the quaters but didnt score until the final... Only went and won the bloody thing! No golden boot but a really enjoyable challenge. Its great to be back playing!
89 goals in euro and world cup = 890pts
For winning world cup = 1000pts
Gomez bouns pts = 310pts
Overall Total = 2200pts

18-02-20, 03:53 PM
Overall Total = 2200pts

Hey mate, only seeing your tactics and squad screenshots, rest don't seem to be working. You ok to post all the screenshots to prove goals and winning World Cup... good work though looks like you may have the top score for this challenge!

03-10-20, 09:44 PM
Hi James,

I will post again now. Just checked
1st game
https://i.postimg.cc/zBz5Nv6W/1st-game-2010.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
fixtures 2010
https://i.postimg.cc/W46jxgWT/2010-results-6g-1a.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
2nd game
https://i.postimg.cc/kGDmVZng/2nd-game-2010.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
3rd game
https://i.postimg.cc/Jnp8zmCF/3rd-game-2010.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/sx8R5cX9/4th-game-2010.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
squad age at start
https://i.postimg.cc/8knD81HJ/Squad-age-start.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/Y242CGjf/results-2011-2g-2a.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
game 5
https://i.postimg.cc/T15svXdg/game5.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/qgf5kZqY/game6.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/3RzTv1Wj/results.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/nh1pPqwZ/game1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/W4bTLtQZ/game2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/4dYGyq4N/game3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/8CKD1NS0/game4.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/wvCCvBb0/fixtures.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/15Qx1fFz/game1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/NFRWrw3Y/game2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/L4fdWzn7/game3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/L6Bc92k3/game4.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/HW0Z53Jp/manager.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/90BLhF34/results.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKTfL336/squad.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/GtRXVTfw/stats.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/SNDg1s73/wcgame1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/52ynhVs0/wc-final.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

hope that gets us on the leader board now pal.


06-10-20, 07:36 PM
Cheers mate Iíll update the leader board tomorrow