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Craig Forrest
03-03-12, 06:04 PM
After the expected England's failure on the World Cup, here's your chance to remedy things...At least in virtual world...

http://avenell.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/three-lions-71471.jpg

Rules

-you are in charge of England for 3 WC qualifications AND 3 EC qualifications (and the tournaments themselves if you qualify) starting after the 2002 WC.
- you are allowed to call up only the players playing in English First Division (Championship) and below
-if a player you had called up gets transferred to the EPL or any other league in the world, you have to remove him from your squad
- as soon as the team is no longer physically located in the Championship you have to stop using their players, i.e. if a player's team is still in Championship before the game updates in June, you're allowed to use him
- you have to use YOUR OWN 442 flat tactic, to prove the WC can be won using this formation http://champman0102.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
-use the SIM Data Update or ODB June 2010 Data Update


Points

World Cup / European Championship

Title - 100/90
Runners-up - 80/70
Semifinals - 60/50
Quarterfinals - 40/30
2nd round - 20/ -

Bonus points - every goal scored on a tournament is worth 1 point


This is not that hard of a challenge, but it could be fun...It's not that long either since it's international management and seasons will fly by...Enjoy http://champman0102.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Your challenge master,
Churky

You can choose to create the game yourself, or download a pre-loaded save
Save Game
http://champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=file&id=245

Craig Forrest
13-07-12, 02:37 PM
I started this one too....

Hey AMC (or Churky)... does the first WC count? I don't know if it should as the rules state 3 WC qualifications and the WC if you qualify for it... but Engerland is already in the first WC held the first summer and you haven't needed to qualify..... I'd be inclined to not count it as 1 of the 3.... thoughts?

AMC
13-07-12, 02:44 PM
I think you're right mate, I'm sure it said it starts after the 2002 WC, must have been on the old site.

Craig Forrest
13-07-12, 02:56 PM
Excellent... I'll use the first one as a practice run to test players and formations :ok:

Redknapp69
21-06-13, 01:06 AM
Just finished this

Very frustrating looking through squads to make sure player is not in Prem

Anyhoo - good 'ol tactic restriction made for some dour games!

Only managed to get 3 championships before I was sacked

FA confidence was always low with me. I was very much like current England team where I flew through all qualifying groups but bottled it at the championships!

2012 Euro Champ - 5 goals and quarters - 35 points
2014 World Cup - 4 goas and quarters - 44
2016 Euro Champs - 5 goals and didn't get past group stage - 5 points

Total - 84 points

Screenies below

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kikivampy
11-08-15, 01:05 PM
What about free players and loan players?
I have to be sure that all my players are ok before each game or before each season?

AMC
11-08-15, 01:31 PM
I'd say yes to free players, but loan players who's parent club is in the Premiership no.

kikivampy
11-08-15, 06:15 PM
Ok. And players have to be allowed only before each international game or before each season?

AMC
11-08-15, 06:34 PM
Before each game I think mate.

kikivampy
11-08-15, 10:35 PM
What a mess!!! It will make me crazy!!! :mod:
No points for all the qualifications phase?

kikivampy
14-08-15, 10:32 AM
Catastrophic... I missed the qualification for European championship...And I think I won't qualify for WC... I used the 4-4-2 flat of The Barber of Sevilla (not so bad...62pts with the Degraafschap test versus 59.4pts for my 4-1-3-2 default tactic). Best players doesn't stay in their D1 clubs... Help?!

AMC
14-08-15, 11:40 AM
Nothing for qualification mate. As you can see from Red's attempt above he seemed to have trouble with it too.

kikivampy
14-08-15, 11:57 AM
Not a tactic problem, I choose the best players I can...I have to be luckyer and qualify for a few points...because I can't go further than 1/4 I think...
If They sack me, it means that I will score...0!!!

Redknapp69
14-08-15, 09:23 PM
Unlucky Kiki - tough challenge this :lol:

kikivampy
15-08-15, 07:30 PM
Sacked...after 2 bad qualification phases... 0pt for this challenge. I don't think I could do better with a tactic like that...Perhaps I will do it again but with a better tactic. My way to play the challenges is clear, default tactic each time I can. Itīs good to realize that you can't win without good players!!!

kikivampy
16-08-15, 09:01 PM
Fighting as I can during EC and WC qualifications... http://imgur.com/KJAPkcw
and sacked!!! http://imgur.com/OFcCYtp

Total of O pt!!! C'est la vie!!!

zionmaster
20-08-15, 04:23 AM
Over 10 years for this challenge :caked: I've just finished 8th years with England team. Waiting for being sacked to count points :heh:

zionmaster
20-08-15, 05:59 AM
If I won the WC at the start game, can I count this for points??? :love:

zionmaster
20-08-15, 08:25 AM
Points

World Cup / European Championship

Title - 100/90: 3WC + 2 Euro Cham = 5*100 = 500 pts
Runners-up - 80/70
Semifinals - 60/50: 1 Semi Finals Euro Cham = 1*60 = 60 pts
Quarterfinals - 40/30
2nd round - 20/ -

Bonus points - every goal scored on a tournament is worth 1 point: 60 Goals * 1 = 60 pts

Screens:
1. Tactic:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Tac_zps6uuyn3ot.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Tac_zps6uuyn3ot.png.html)

2. WC 2002: 15 Goals
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/WC%202002_zpsnnvq8fre.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/WC%202002_zpsnnvq8fre.png.html)

Luckily, I won after penalties:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/WC%20Final%202002_zpshcz5zip7.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/WC%20Final%202002_zpshcz5zip7.png.html)

3. WC 2006: 11 Goals
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/WC%202006_zpstbvl9dia.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/WC%202006_zpstbvl9dia.png.html)

Penalties again

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/WC%20Final%202006_zpsp3v8extd.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/WC%20Final%202006_zpsp3v8extd.png.html)

4. WC 2010: 15 Goals
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/WC%202010_zpsraylactf.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/WC%202010_zpsraylactf.png.html)

Unbelievable we can harm Holland easily
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/WC%20Final%202010_zpsd9kng2fl.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/WC%20Final%202010_zpsd9kng2fl.png.html)

5. Euro 2004: 6 Goals
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Euro%202004_zpsvilltsij.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Euro%202004_zpsvilltsij.png.html)

How happy I were to see Chiellini and then De Rossi being sent off:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Euro%20Final%202004_zpst6isjdyz.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Euro%20Final%202004_zpst6isjdyz.png.html)

6. Euro 2008: 8 Goals
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Euro%202008_zps0ix5febe.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Euro%202008_zps0ix5febe.png.html)

Too fast too furious for Germany
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Euro%20Semi%202008_zpsn5xqzuan.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Euro%20Semi%202008_zpsn5xqzuan.png.html)

7. Euro 2012: 5 Goals
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Euro%202012_zpsyadugf7x.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Euro%202012_zpsyadugf7x.png.html)

I think we are THE KING OF PENALTIES
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Euro%20Final%202012_zps006m4op8.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Euro%20Final%202012_zps006m4op8.png.html)

Points:
- Cup: 560 pts
- Goals: 60 pts

Total: 620 pts

kikivampy
20-08-15, 10:17 AM
Is it a joke?! I would say no! With my 0 point on this challenge, you imagine you CAN score a free WC?! Call me Zero Lion!

cliff
19-05-16, 01:42 PM
WibWob allowed in this one, I understand? (All previous screens are down and I can't see what other people did)

Craig Forrest
19-05-16, 06:37 PM
As far as I know, wib-wob is allowed, provided your overview screen is still a flat 4-4-2....

London35
22-07-16, 01:40 PM
i think Big Sam is giving this a go!

kikivampy
18-03-17, 08:45 PM
Second try!
qualifying after barrage against Wales!
I will score points!!! (If only I could score one goal on European Tournament!!!) :)

kikivampy
25-03-17, 10:42 PM
So funny challenge when you score points!!!
You really need chance...

Euro 2004, 1/4 final +30pts
http://imgur.com/Eb1LSei
7 goals scored, +7pts
http://imgur.com/1UJArV2

World Cup 2006, no qualification...

Euro 2008, 1/4 final +30pts
http://imgur.com/RpOZEhW
5 goals scored, +5pts
http://imgur.com/KFYHUNP

World Cup 2010, 2nd round +20pts
http://imgur.com/PAqcDhX
6 goals scored, +6pts
http://imgur.com/KFYHUNP

37+35+26=98pts!!!

Sacked after WC 2010...
My 2 players most used:
Kieran Richardson
http://imgur.com/0GHQ1rU
and Jermaine Jenas
http://imgur.com/yjrBJY7
with 43 caps!

RTMFW
16-12-17, 08:10 PM
Are arrows allowed on this one? I'd assume flat would mean not, but the last one said flat and allowed arrows?

RTMFW
17-12-17, 01:58 PM
Oh and how about if a player in your tournament squad transfers to a PL club, do you have to immediately stop playing them or can that wait until after the tournament?

Craig Forrest
19-12-17, 03:49 PM
Yes arrows

If they are valid to be in your WC squad at the beginning, then they're good for the tournament

RTMFW
19-12-17, 08:58 PM
Damnit, this non Premier League rule is annoying, didn't notice one of my squad signed for Birmingham (who knew they'd still be in Premier League?!) at some point over the months leading to Euro 2004, didn't notice until the third game of the tournament either!

RTMFW
19-02-18, 08:31 PM
Finished this a few weeks ago.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/5afed9cb50815e83aa10c5eb61ff23c4/tumblr_p4euptsSif1wyfo1bo1_500.jpg

Think I calculated this correctly, though not sure about the first season - the description says qualifying campaigns and tournaments and you don't have to qualify for the first one?

Found it surprisingly tough, towards the end, any good player either got promoted or snapped up by one of the big boys!

Full SS's here:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/5afed9cb50815e83aa10c5eb61ff23c4/tumblr_p4euptsSif1wyfo1bo1_500.jpg

AMC
30-06-18, 01:48 PM
Updated the OP to confirm points are from the 2002 World Cup, well done on completing the challenge mate.

Faceless
01-02-19, 05:36 PM
Updated the OP to confirm points are from the 2002 World Cup, well done on completing the challenge mate.

Apology but i find this is quite confusing

The OP still says that "you are in charge of England for 3 WC qualifications AND 3 EC qualifications (and the tournaments themselves if you qualify) starting after the 2002 WC.

So for 2002WC, do i need to play with eligible players, do i score points?

Another question, provided that points from 2002WC are good with eligible players.

In post#19, points for 3wc winner and 2 euro championship should be 480 instead of 500, shouldn't it? (WC/EC for title - 100/90?) and points for 1 semifinal in ec should be 50 instead of 60? so his total score should be discounted by 30 points?

In post#30, shouldn't he score 109 more points from 2002WC?

If points from 2002WC are no go then points in post#19 which counted points from 2002WC?

Thank you

AMC
01-02-19, 06:00 PM
There are no points for the 2002 WC, "from the 2002 World Cup" means after the 2002 World Cup not including it mate.

AMC
01-02-19, 06:19 PM
Looks like youíre right about the points for post 19, Iíll look into it properly tonight and amend accordingly.

Faceless
04-02-19, 11:50 AM
My tactic

https://i.ibb.co/8MgSkPC/tactic.jpg (https://ibb.co/jhk1t3N)

2002 World Cup: Finished 3rd place (No points)

2004 European Cup: 83 points

Group Stage

https://i.ibb.co/Ry1mJwP/2004ec1.jpg (https://ibb.co/L5MWs76)

Quarter Final

https://i.ibb.co/hHLbGC9/2004ec2.jpg (https://ibb.co/ctk0Wx3)

Semi Final

https://i.ibb.co/4W33y7Y/2004ec3.jpg (https://ibb.co/R2ddn9B)

Final: Defeated by Spain 1-3 with a total of 13 goals scored in this tournament (+70+13)

https://i.ibb.co/XxpkB27/2004ec4.jpg (https://ibb.co/fdtGR1k)

2006 World Cup: 98 points

Group Stage & 2nd Round

https://i.ibb.co/Fgsd4c8/2006wc1.jpg (https://ibb.co/sy5X9cs)
https://i.ibb.co/gZp7SHY/2006wc2.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZzPJBt9)

Quarter Final

https://i.ibb.co/kXkHD8m/2006wc3.jpg (https://ibb.co/fHB1NpD)

Semi Final

https://i.ibb.co/xJDT681/2006wc4.jpg (https://ibb.co/r4mrHfx)

Final: Defeated by Spain (Again) 1-3 (Again) with a total of 18 goals scored in this tournament (+80+18)

https://i.ibb.co/nBJMPKr/2006wc5.jpg (https://ibb.co/hczFYTs)
https://i.ibb.co/1L3ZndV/2006wc6.jpg (https://ibb.co/wRTyLwH)

Faceless
04-02-19, 02:21 PM
No points for this but lost to Spain again in confederations cup final .................................... :hurt:

https://i.ibb.co/k2gchng/2007confederationcup.jpg (https://ibb.co/9H9YqX9)

Faceless
04-02-19, 08:17 PM
2008 European Cup: 102 points

Did really bad during qualification

https://i.ibb.co/6bNFcq4/2008ec1.jpg (https://ibb.co/nfRjqKD)
https://i.ibb.co/xFm00SB/2008ec2.jpg (https://ibb.co/2Z8QQ7C)
https://i.ibb.co/xGM8bsy/2008ec3.jpg (https://ibb.co/Qn6jVcZ)

But things getting better after that

https://i.ibb.co/2YP6g12/2008ec4.jpg (https://ibb.co/x8GsJtv)
https://i.ibb.co/gmssYCD/2008ec5.jpg (https://ibb.co/GnggmjV)

Final this time we won against Spain, 12 goals scored in this tournament (90+12)

https://i.ibb.co/m5Jn9nQ/2008ec6.jpg (https://ibb.co/tpB0q0y)
https://i.ibb.co/DY4L0VT/2008ec7.jpg (https://ibb.co/Qk9Xybt)
https://i.ibb.co/mBGyZmh/2008ec8.jpg (https://ibb.co/Ctz9CqV)

Faceless
07-02-19, 05:54 PM
2010 World Cup: 78 points

Easy Group Stage

https://i.ibb.co/wYK5zLZ/2010wc1.jpg (https://ibb.co/qxRTrnL)

Second Round

https://i.ibb.co/0JdM703/2010wc2.jpg (https://ibb.co/f0Ppg37)

Quarter Final

https://i.ibb.co/smQmnQG/2010wc3.jpg (https://ibb.co/K070d7k)

Semi Final: Spain is my strongest rival in this challenge. Lose to them in penalty (60 points)

https://i.ibb.co/HnLzxBy/2010wc4.jpg (https://ibb.co/hDxWZLN)

Total of 18 goals in this tournament (+18 points)

https://i.ibb.co/TYnWqkk/2010wc5.jpg (https://ibb.co/rFLdfmm)

Faceless
08-02-19, 06:02 PM
2012 European Cup: 60 points

Group Stage

https://i.ibb.co/y5zKHh2/2012ec1.jpg (https://ibb.co/VDFbfH6)

Quarter Final

https://i.ibb.co/5Fyk7n9/2012ec2.jpg (https://ibb.co/gVpdnP7)

Semi Final (+50)

https://i.ibb.co/Dzt93Nk/2012ec3.jpg (https://ibb.co/rFmxngM)

10 Goals (+10)

https://i.ibb.co/Fbstw8D/2012ec4.jpg (https://ibb.co/Gvsj2C5)

Faceless
08-02-19, 08:04 PM
2014 World Cup: 96 points

Group Stage

https://i.ibb.co/nnkyfnj/2014wc1.jpg (https://ibb.co/mXzKtX4)

Second Round

https://i.ibb.co/7RQvMBd/2014wc2.jpg (https://ibb.co/8dbMvGL)

Quarter Final

https://i.ibb.co/854fbTJ/2014wc3.jpg (https://ibb.co/hW14chk)

Semi Final

https://i.ibb.co/cgZ7syC/2014wc4.jpg (https://ibb.co/SsM9Z6d)

Final (+80)

https://i.ibb.co/vk0psT1/2014wc5.jpg (https://ibb.co/FzR2sy6)

16 goals (+16)

https://i.ibb.co/y5pLnmY/2014wc6.jpg (https://ibb.co/BjG8VHr)

Summary of points

2004 European Cup: 83 points
2006 World Cup: 98 points
2008 European Cup: 102 points
2010 World Cup: 78 points
2012 European Cup: 60 points
2014 World Cup: 96 points

Total of 517 points

AMC
11-02-19, 10:43 PM
Looks like youíre right about the points for post 19, Iíll look into it properly tonight and amend accordingly.

You are indeed correct faceless, so unfortunately zionmaster's score will have to be amended to 475 points (200 for World Cups, 230 for Euros and 45 goals).