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Craig Forrest
04-03-12, 04:35 AM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9611/europeancup.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/europeancup.jpg/)

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/4003/ajax.png (http://img853.imageshack.us/i/ajax.png/)http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2177/milanxh.png (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/milanxh.png/)




The 1995 European Cup final (That's the Champions League to you kids) saw AC Milan paired against Ajax Amsterdam. Two great football giants of the past, one the epitome of the modern era of football with its big name signings huge transfer fees and glamour. The other a member of football royalty trying to adapt to a sport that was becoming increasingly more about money and leaving it behind.


Milan under the stewardship of Fabio Capello were the reigning European Champions and the dominant force in European football. Ajax were the surprise package and had in fact exceeded all expectations just by reaching the final. They were made up of a largely unknown group of young players who were barely in long trousers. Everyone expected them to be cannon fodder for the mighty Milan. It's a funny old game...

Your job is to take control of Ajax and return them to the summit of European football. In doing so you must adhere to the philosophy of the club and only sign young players.




http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/280/kluivert.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/kluivert.jpg/)





The Rules

This is a 6 season challenge to be completed only with the original CM 01/02 database. Season 1 is a non scoring season which you must use to get rid of any player that is 23 years old or more. Seasons 2-6 (5 seasons) will be used to accumulate as many trophies as possible with particular emphasis on winning the CL.

At the start of every season you must not have any player in the squad that is 23 or more. Players that turn 23 during the season are and remain eligible for that season.

If you can't ship out all your players in season 1 you cannot score points in season 2 so this should be your priority!

You can play any formation you wish however the formation you choose must be grounded within the realms of realism, no playing 2 at the back etc.

There is one exemption to the age rule. Any player that was in the Ajax match day squad for the 1995 final is fair game. Jari Litmanen is still at the club but you are also free to sign Davids, Kluivert, Seedorf et al. Indeed if they play enough games during a season they will even earn you a bonus! (excludes Litmanen)

Scoring

Dutch title = 100 points
Dutch Cup = 50 points
UEFA Cup = 200 points
European Cup = 400 points
Season bonus for 1995 player = 25 points (player must play a minimum of 25 matches)
European Award for players = 10 points

This challenge should be loads of fun. You start the game with a young Ibrahimovic and Van der Vaart and get the chance to pair them with Kluivert, Seedorf and Overmars. One thing for sure is there are going to be some big scores in those Dutch cup games.




http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1787/winners.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/winners.jpg/)




The official match day squads for the 1995 final



http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1945/ajaxlineup.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/ajaxlineup.jpg/)http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9779/milanlineup.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/milanlineup.jpg/)

You can choose to create the game yourself, or download a pre-loaded save
Save Game
http://champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=file&id=247

AMC
02-07-12, 01:13 PM
Think I'll give this a go myself.

AMC
11-07-12, 08:59 PM
With no points on offer for the first season I'll keep this brief.

Won the league by 5 pts from PSV, but only secured the league on the last day with a 3-0 win over them at home, finishing the season 29 games unbeaten, recording 90 pts from our 34 games, although scoring 113 times! Reached the final of the CL, after overcoming Man Utd and Arsenal in the quarters and semis before we fell apart against Super Roma losing 3-0, with 4 players recording a 5 and 2 injuries in the first half to contend with. Won the Dutch Cup as well, 5-0 over Groningen.

Signing of the season was Tsigalko with 55 in 38 games although he slowed down towards the end. Managed to recruit a number of the 95 winning squad with Ronald de Boer, Winston Bogarde, Michael Reiziger and Jari Litmanen joining keeper Fred Grim at the club, with Peter van Vossen and Finidi joining in the summer on bosmans. Over notable signings include Pinheiro, Voulgaris, Prutton, Aghahowa, Lee Chun Soo and Kim Kallstrom, with Mark Kerr and Scott MacDonald also arriving before next season.

Anybody know if sub apps count towards the 25 games, e.g. 12(14)?

Jesus
11-07-12, 09:17 PM
Shaping up a fantastic looking squad there AMC with the likes of Prutton, Kallstrom and Kerr making up a dangerous midfield trio. Good luck in the upcoming seasons.

I think they have to be starting appearances? Nothing is stopping you subbing them a minute in to the game (although that would be cheating) but this needs clearing up as it counts for Part II as well.

AMC
11-07-12, 09:24 PM
I was thinking the same mate. Bit of a ball ache as I think even with reaching the CL and Cup final I didn't play 50 games, so doesn't give much to work with. Only points for winning things too, nothing for runners up, semis or 3rd places is a bit naughty as well :D

AMC
21-07-12, 03:32 PM
First season for points, and this is how we faired:

League - Winners! PSV were real bastards for most of the season winning 22 out of the first 24 games before eventually losing in game 25 when we finally went top, and we were eventually crowned champions on the penultimate weekend.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2lj2jv6.jpg


Dutch Cup - We met rivals PSV in the final were a strong second half showing saw us win the cup 3-0 with a brace from Mido and one from Lee Chun Soo.

http://i46.tinypic.com/24ph10l.jpg


Champions League - Went out in the Quarter Finals on away goals to Liverpool after drawing the 1st leg 0-0 at Anfield and then only getting a 1-1 draw back in Amsterdam.

Season bonus for 1995 player - Only missing four of the 1995 matchday squad now (Blind and Rijkaard are retired) so the aim will be to try and bring in Kluivert (Barcelona), Davids (Roma), Seedorf (Inter) and Kanu (Arsenal) to the club over the summer, with Kluivert and Seedorf already showing under interested so fingers crossed. Managed to juggle the 10 players well enough to get the bonus although I had a scare over Finidi when he got injured in February for 3 months but he was back for the last 3 games to get to the 25 mark.

http://i46.tinypic.com/f1mjr.jpghttp://i47.tinypic.com/2pzg276.jpg


Player of the Season - Tsigalko. 38 in 34 doesn't sound great but averaging more than a goal a game in a formation with two strikers is special, and his average rating of 8.47 was the only one of the squad over 8. Julius Aghahowa also had a great season in a number of roles, striker, winger and centre mid.


Points this season

League Title - 100 pts
Dutch Cup - 50 pts
Season bonus for 1995 player - 25pts x 9 = 225 pts

Total for season = 100 + 50 + 220 = 375 pts

Total points on challenge so far = 375 pts.

AMC
25-07-12, 03:44 PM
Was hoping to finish this before the month's out for double bubble but doubt that's going to happen now :D

Jesus
02-08-12, 01:10 PM
Same with for me AMC for Part II, but then I went on holiday :lol:

Cracking first season by the way, hopefully with the signings of Kluivert and Seedorf you'll be able to push for CL glory.

AMC
02-08-12, 01:26 PM
Finished 2nd season last night so will do a write up tonight. Glad you didn't go missing again :D

AMC
02-08-12, 05:52 PM
So on to the second season for points:

League - Winners! Won a lot more eaisly this year with PSV not the force they were last year.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7730/leaguey.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/leaguey.jpg/)


Champions League - Winners! 2-1 winners over Bayern in the final, leading 1-0 till the 90th minute before Kallstrom doubled our lead. Oretga hit a late consolation but it was too late by then.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4510/clfinal.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/clfinal.jpg/)


Dutch Cup - Semi Finalists. Was 2-1 up against Feyenoord away at the hour mark before I nipped out my room, came back to see we lost 3-2 :(

Season bonus for 1995 player - Only missing three of the 1995 matchday squad now as I managed to sign Kanu for £10m, but he only arrived in February and despite missing six weeks through injury, he was never going to get to the 25 mark.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6609/selection1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/selection1.jpg/)http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7921/selection2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/selection2.jpg/)


A number of first teamers will have to go ahead of next season though, Chivu, Terry (bought for £12m) and Lee Chun Soo just a few, and unless I can get some decent young full backs in I may have to go with 3 at the back which I don't tend to do. I'd also like to get at least one of the three remaining big guns in, Seedorf, Davids or Kluivert.

Points this season

League Title - 100 pts
Champions League - 400 pts
Season bonus for 1995 player - 25pts x 9 = 225 pts

Total for season = 100 + 400 + 225 = 725 pts

Total points on challenge so far = 375 pts + 725 pts = 1,100 pts

Jesus
03-08-12, 12:55 PM
Never leave CM mid-way through an important game :doh: I thought that was an unwritten CM law? :lol:

Another good season, those 1995 players are pulling in a lot of points for you.

ajmer
09-11-12, 04:51 PM
ODB means .60 or .68 is okay? Wanna start this challenge right now.

Dermotron
09-11-12, 04:58 PM
Both are fine mate since they are pretty much the same in terms of players available. Reckon .60 might have the slight edge

AMC
23-11-12, 10:39 AM
Got too many saves going at the moment but going to pick this one up again and finish it, then move on to the Roman General challenge and finish that off too. Wish me luck!

Dermotron
23-11-12, 11:36 AM
I wish you luck



Except in DTL


:P

AMC
23-11-12, 11:37 AM
Ha Ha :D

TWS
03-12-12, 10:54 AM
Starting this one now.

AMC
03-12-12, 11:14 AM
Best of luck

AMC
12-12-12, 11:30 PM
Third season down:

League - Winners! Not as convincing as last year but never really in trouble, heading the table from week 3 except for a couple of weeks around Xmas.

http://i45.tinypic.com/351im1i.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/leaguey.jpg/)


Champions League - Semis. Ran into Super Roma and lost the first leg away 3-1 after Van der Sar had a howler, but there was hope when Finidi put us ahead in the return early, but the Italian side held on to go through 3-2 on agg.


Dutch Cup - Winners! A comfortable 2-0 win over Vitesse, the only disappointment being some poor finishing.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2u77dz6.jpg


Season bonus for 1995 player - Managed to sign Davids (£15m from Roma) and Seedorf (£22 from Inter) to leave just Kluivert left to sign, but just as the season was about to start Van Vossen and R. De Boer decided to retire :(

http://i46.tinypic.com/2uftxtt.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/selection1.jpg/)http://i46.tinypic.com/1250u2h.jpg


Other transfer business weren't so straight forward as a number of important players from last season had to be sold having reached 23. John Terry (£10m - Roma), Chivu (£12.5m) and Radoi (£2.5m - Lyon) severley weakened our first choice defence as well as backups Pasanen, Reid and Cruz, and finding replacements was very difficult, in the end just Martyn Burns (Pearce regen) signed permanently with two season loan deals for centre backs Paul Reid and Ricardo Carmo. Things don't look like getting any easier either, as another three key defenders will leave in the summer, Maxwell, Prutton and Yakubu as they have all reached 23, leaving us with veterans F. De Boer (35), Bogarde (34) and Reiziger (32) as our only recognised defenders :eek: Other notable players set to leave are Ibrahimovic, Aghahowa and Mark Kerr, so a busy summer is definitely in the making.

Points this season

League Title - 100 pts
Dutch Cup - 50 pts
Season bonus for 1995 player - 25pts x 11 = 275 pts

Total for season = 100 + 50 + 275 = 425 pts

Total points on challenge so far = 1,100 pts + 425 pts = 1,525 pts

Redknapp69
12-12-12, 11:52 PM
Good work mate!

AMC
14-12-12, 09:40 PM
One last screenie before I make a start on PTP.

http://i50.tinypic.com/bflumq.jpg

AMC
16-01-13, 08:29 PM
Fourth season in the bag:

League - Winners!

http://i48.tinypic.com/ji2i3s.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/leaguey.jpg/)


Champions League - Runners Up :( Met Super Roma in the semis with the home leg first, and things weren't looking good when after 85 mins we found ourselves 1-0 down, but two quick goals from van der Vaart and Overmars saw us come away with a 2-1 win. The second leg saw Roma go ahead on the quarter of an hour mark through Montella to put them ahead on away goals, but that was short lived as Tsigalko levelled, and then put us ahead on 40. Totti tied the game at 2-2 on the stroke of half time but there was no further goals, and so we were through to the final to play Barcelona. Unfortunately it weren't our night as second half goals from Gaston Casas and Javier Saviola gave the catalans the trophy.


Dutch Cup - Semis :( PSV away was the worst possible draw we could get and we went down 1-0 after a solitary strike from Arjen Robben.


Season bonus for 1995 player - Kluivert was the final signing I needed to make of the '95 squad but after Litmanen picked up an injury we couldn't add to last seasons tally.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2vxi0ib.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/dcimt.jpg


Finally splashed the cash as we made 10 signings. Joining Kluivert at the clubs were defenders Darlas, Loovens, Arnold de Jong, Johan Cornelisse, Phil Gill and Luiz Eduardo Justino dos Santos to bolster the backline, while Alberto Aquilani and Ricardo Quaresma gave me extra midfield options. The final signing was River Plate striker Maxi Lopez although he wouldn't see much game time. Leaving the club due to reaching 23 were Prutton (£10m - Newcastle), Arsenal (£5.75m - Wigan), Yakubu (£10m - Celtic), Aghahowa (£20m - Milan), Ibrahimovic (£4.1m - 1860), Voulgaris (£2m - B. Munich) and Maxwell (£2.9m - A. Mineiro). Jongen, Quansah, Verbist, Kallstrom, Kujala, Mido and the big two of van der Vaart and Tsigalko will have to leave the club, and I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of the 95 squad retired over the summer. Hoping to go out with a bang with the treble but I'm not confident in that!

Points this season

League Title - 100 pts
Season bonus for 1995 player - 25pts x 11 = 275 pts

Total for season = 100 + 275 = 375 pts

Total points on challenge so far = 1,525 pts + 375 pts = 1,900 pts

merkezekrem
18-01-13, 04:11 PM
You wont get 86 points next season for sure :ok:

AMC
18-01-13, 04:22 PM
A perfect season with no retirements, all the 95 players playing 25 or more games and the treble will tie me for 6th :D

AMC
30-01-13, 07:46 PM
Final season done and dusted:

League - Winners!

http://i49.tinypic.com/2d7gdqq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/leaguey.jpg/)


Champions League - Runners Up :( More final heartbreak as after 120 mins with no goals against Super Roma we headed to pens. Quaresma and Maxi Lopez missed for us and Roma's 4 penalty mistakes made no mistake and we would miss out once again.


Dutch Cup - Runners Up :( Avoided PSV all the way, as NAC Breda knocked them out in the semis. With the focus on the CL Final I named a weakened side for the game and I was made to regret that as we were blown away 3-0! :eek:


Season bonus for 1995 player - Grim retired before the start of the new season so any chance of tying for 6th place in the challenge table was already out the question before a ball had been kicked. All the others met the criteria this season though.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2livspt.jpghttp://i47.tinypic.com/34pdrg8.jpg


The sales of van der Vaart (Inter - £18.5m) and Tsigalko (£1.5m - Zaragoza) were the biggest losses to the squad, while Jongen (£10m - Chelsea) and Kallstrom (£12.5m - Fenerbahce) were also an integral part of our squad. I was more than pleased with Jongen's replacement as Jose Antonio Reyes joined for £8m from Celta, and youth teamer Marco Koopman (Aron Winter's regen) was really beginning to look something special. Maxi Lopez though was the finding of the summer though as after spending last season in the reserves he made himself one of the first names on the team sheet scoring 33 goals from 26 (10) apps.

Points this season

League Title - 100 pts
Season bonus for 1995 player - 25pts x 11 = 275 pts

Total for season = 100 + 275 = 375 pts

Total points on challenge so far = 1,900 pts + 375 pts = 2,275 pts


A thoroughly enjoyable challenge and one I should have played earlier. The heartbreak in the last few CL's have made me carry on the save, although I won't be adhering to the signing restrictions no more, and the £120m in the bank has already been dipped into as I have a brand new defence in Buffon, Ashley Cole, Nesta, Cannavaro and J. Zanetti, which will do nicely :D

Redknapp69
30-01-13, 10:52 PM
Well done fella

joemaddog
15-04-13, 10:14 PM
Hi guys i doing this challenge as i never do one before.
Im at start of season 2 but board is only giving 375k for transfers i have 35million in bank.??? any ideas?
i came 2nd in league and won cup first season.
I only got bought r. de boer and bogarde from 95 team

Kaneman
07-11-13, 11:19 AM
Start of season 2, I finally got the majority of 1995 players. Luckily I got rid of many players on P/exch deals, but still needed to release O'Brien and Nieuwenburg, as nobody would buy them.
The squad:
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/855/iw4b.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/iw4b.png/)http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/69/siso.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/siso.png/)

Also, "believes the club needs more squad depth" is pissing me off.

Redknapp69
07-11-13, 01:44 PM
Keep it up!

Kaneman
08-11-13, 09:07 PM
Season 1 summary:
I suck.

Points: 11 x 25 points = 275.
http://imageshack.us/scaled/medium/96/o9nd.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/o9nd.png/)

Kaneman
10-11-13, 03:34 PM
Season zwei:
Players out: Maxwell, Aaron Mokoena, Rafael van der Vaart
Players in: Junior, Bruno Barata, Mika Väyrynen

Points: 11 x 25 points = 275 points + Cup win (50) = 325.
Total: 275 + 325 = 600
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/198/a1hm.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/a1hm.png/)http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/28/9jph.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/9jph.png/)

Kaneman
11-11-13, 02:20 PM
Season 3:
Players out: Youssouf Hersi, Christian Chivu, Petri Pasanen, Zokora, Julius Aghahowa, Mika Väyrynen, Steven Pienaar
Players in: Daniele Lancini, Filipos Darlas

Points: 11 x 25 points = 275 points + Cup win (50) = 325
Total: 600 + 325 = 925
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/24/m788.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/m788.png/)http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/35/5ivb.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/5ivb.png/)

Kaneman
14-11-13, 12:49 PM
Season 4:
Players out: Zlatan Ibrahimović, Kim Källström
Players in: None!

Points: 11 x 25 points = 275 points
Total: 925 + 275 = 1200
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/40/9jkc.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/9jkc.png/)

zionmaster
16-08-15, 08:12 AM
Season 1 is a non scoring season which you must use to get rid of any player that is 23 years old or more. Seasons 2-6 (5 seasons) will be used to accumulate as many trophies as possible with particular emphasis on winning the CL.

At the start of every season you must not have any player in the squad that is 23 or more. Players that turn 23 during the season are and remain eligible for that season.

It means that I have to sell all over-23-years-old player each seasons???

Can you re-up some screenshot in your first writing? Pictures are all "DEAD" :sad:

zionmaster
16-08-15, 09:48 AM
What should I do in this case??? Wait until selling them???

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Blocked_zpsdewumf7s.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Blocked_zpsdewumf7s.png.html)

I will set their price to Zero (0) for selling :argue:

Jesus
16-08-15, 03:54 PM
What should I do in this case??? Wait until selling them???

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Blocked_zpsdewumf7s.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Blocked_zpsdewumf7s.png.html)

I will set their price to Zero (0) for selling :argue:


Season 1 is a non scoring season which you must use to get rid of any player that is 23 years old or more. Seasons 2-6 (5 seasons) will be used to accumulate as many trophies as possible with particular emphasis on winning the CL.

At the start of every season you must not have any player in the squad that is 23 or more. Players that turn 23 during the season are and remain eligible for that season.

It means that I have to sell all over-23-years-old player each seasons???

Can you re-up some screenshot in your first writing? Pictures are all "DEAD" :sad:
As you said you have to sell every player who is over 23 at the end of each season and before the next one begins. If you don't then your points don't count for that season. Looks like you might have to restart if you can't get rid of him unless you want to play a season where you don't score any points.

zionmaster
16-08-15, 04:19 PM
For anyone who cares this challenge:

The official match day squads for the 1995 final

Edwin van der Sar; Michael Reiziger, Danny Blind (ĐT), Frank Rijkaard, Frank de Boer; Clarence Seedorf (Nwankwo Kanu 54'), Jari Litmanen (Patrick Kluivert 69'), Edgar Davids; Finidi George, Ronald de Boer, Marc Overmars.

zionmaster
16-08-15, 04:22 PM
As you said you have to sell every player who is over 23 at the end of each season and before the next one begins. If you don't then your points don't count for that season. Looks like you might have to restart if you can't get rid of him unless you want to play a season where you don't score any points.

Foor me!!! I am going to play CL Final with Roma :hungry: Haizzz... Let's restart game!!!

AMC
16-08-15, 04:30 PM
I'd say it's ok as long as he doesn't play, not much you can do if the board cancels you releasing him. Maybe try fine him a couple of weeks wages for no reason and then try and release him again.

Jesus
16-08-15, 04:55 PM
I'd say it's ok as long as he doesn't play, not much you can do if the board cancels you releasing him. Maybe try fine him a couple of weeks wages for no reason and then try and release him again.
Should have planned ahead and tried to sell as soon as possible :D

AMC
16-08-15, 04:56 PM
:lol:

zionmaster
16-08-15, 05:03 PM
Perhaps I quit this challenge... Haizzz, 3 times I can not sell/ release these guys. Set 0-200k to sell them but... Haizzz. 8/8/2001 I have to play quali-CL with Dortmund, but 7/8/2001 I am still not done as rules requested! Galasek and Trabelsi noone cares to buy them, no way to release.

Sleep well, mates. It's 11 p.m in Vietnam now :spy:

AMC
16-08-15, 06:33 PM
You can play them in the first season mate, it's the second season onwards you can only have the CL winning players and/or u23s.

zionmaster
17-08-15, 06:17 AM
Scoring of SS1:

Dutch title = 100 points: Winners = 100 pts
Dutch Cup = 50 points: Winners = 50 pts
UEFA Cup = 200 points: No
European Cup = 400 points: Winners = 400 pts
Season bonus for 1995 player = 25 points (player must play a minimum of 25 matches): 01 player (Reiziger) = 25 pts
European Award for players = 10 points: No

Total: 575 pts

Screenshots:
1. Tac and Team:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/TAC_zps7qveuey9.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/TAC_zps7qveuey9.png.html)

2. Main:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Main_zpsnaoqfztv.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Main_zpsnaoqfztv.png.html)

3. Reser:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Reser_zpsu8nsbvez.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Reser_zpsu8nsbvez.png.html)

4. Out players:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/Out_zpsnwwjlae6.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/Out_zpsnwwjlae6.png.html)

The last out player or the other out players hasn't played any match for club:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/The%20Last%20Out_zpszr5ywwrk.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/The%20Last%20Out_zpszr5ywwrk.png.html)

So I think this suit rules of challenge!!!

5. Dutch Cup:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS1%20-%20Ajax%20Dutch%20Cup_zpsonr8dfbf.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS1%20-%20Ajax%20Dutch%20Cup_zpsonr8dfbf.png.html)

6. Dutch Pre-Division
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS1%20-%20Ajax%20Dutch%20Pre_zpsy8zxsdk5.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS1%20-%20Ajax%20Dutch%20Pre_zpsy8zxsdk5.png.html)

7. CL
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS1%20-%20Ajax%20CL_zpsmkvvl232.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS1%20-%20Ajax%20CL_zpsmkvvl232.png.html)

Tsigalko is my Hero!!!

8. Season bonus for 1995 player:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS1%20-%20Ajax%2095%20Player_zpseio7crhy.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS1%20-%20Ajax%2095%20Player_zpseio7crhy.png.html)

9. P.S: SS2's Team
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS2%20-%20Team_zpsamv5vbrv.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS2%20-%20Team_zpsamv5vbrv.png.html)

zionmaster
17-08-15, 07:59 AM
Scoring of SS2:

Dutch title = 100 points: Winners = 100 pts
Dutch Cup = 50 points: Winners = 50 pts
UEFA Cup = 200 points: No
European Cup = 400 points: Winners = 400 pts
Season bonus for 1995 player = 25 points (player must play a minimum of 25 matches): 07 player x 25 = 175 pts
European Award for players = 10 points: No

Total: 725 pts

After 2 SS: 1.300 pts

Screenshots:

1. Dutch League
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS2%20-%20Division_zpsd7tmdcxz.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS2%20-%20Division_zpsd7tmdcxz.png.html)

2. Dutch Cup
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS2%20-%20Cup_zpsfgnia4dc.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS2%20-%20Cup_zpsfgnia4dc.png.html)

3. CL
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS2%20-%20CL_zps3edgvnso.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS2%20-%20CL_zps3edgvnso.png.html)

Born to be a legend. I think Roma will never forget this guy

4. 1995 player:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS2%20-%2095%20Player%20Apps_zpsjmsvzcmn.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS2%20-%2095%20Player%20Apps_zpsjmsvzcmn.png.html)

and
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS2%20-%2095%20Rei_zpsduefbt4l.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS2%20-%2095%20Rei_zpsduefbt4l.png.html)

5. SS3's team: Will have eight 1995 Players
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS3%20-%20Team_zpsipu7sref.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS3%20-%20Team_zpsipu7sref.png.html)

6. Earn 6M from this cup:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS3%20-%20FIFA%20CWC_zpsvokpvm70.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS3%20-%20FIFA%20CWC_zpsvokpvm70.png.html)

zionmaster
17-08-15, 09:38 AM
Scoring of SS3:

Dutch title = 100 points: Winners = 100 pts
Dutch Cup = 50 points: Winners = 50 pts
UEFA Cup = 200 points: Winners = 200 pts
European Cup = 400 points: No
Season bonus for 1995 player = 25 points (player must play a minimum of 25 matches): 08 player x 25 = 200 pts
European Award for players = 10 points: No

Total: 550 pts

After 3 SS: 1.850 pts

1. Divison
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS3%20-%20Division_zpskkyvwpix.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS3%20-%20Division_zpskkyvwpix.png.html)

2. Cup:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS3%20-%20Cup_zpsmyh0hl4i.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS3%20-%20Cup_zpsmyh0hl4i.png.html)

3. UEFA:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS3%20-%20UEFA_zpspmluvsuv.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS3%20-%20UEFA_zpspmluvsuv.png.html)

4. 1995 Players:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS3%20-%201995%20Players_zpszjr5urlk.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS3%20-%201995%20Players_zpszjr5urlk.png.html)

and:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS3%20-%201995_zpsps6j4pus.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS3%20-%201995_zpsps6j4pus.png.html)

5. SS4's Team: 4-3-3
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS4%20-%20Team_zpstvzr2rit.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS4%20-%20Team_zpstvzr2rit.png.html)

zionmaster
19-08-15, 02:31 AM
Scoring of SS4:

Dutch title = 100 points: Winners = 100 pts
Dutch Cup = 50 points: Winners = 50 pts
UEFA Cup = 200 points: No
European Cup = 400 points: No
Season bonus for 1995 player = 25 points (player must play a minimum of 25 matches): 05 player x 25 = 125 pts
European Award for players = 10 points: No

Total: 275 pts

After 4 SS: 2.125 pts

Screenshots:

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS4%20-%20Division_zps0xvlsq0r.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS4%20-%20Division_zps0xvlsq0r.png.html)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS4%20-%20Cup_zpsgtadjtbx.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS4%20-%20Cup_zpsgtadjtbx.png.html)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS4%20-%201995%20Player%201_zpsfyrgdclg.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS4%20-%201995%20Player%201_zpsfyrgdclg.png.html)

zionmaster
19-08-15, 03:53 AM
Scoring of SS5:

Dutch title = 100 points: Winners = 100 pts
Dutch Cup = 50 points: No
UEFA Cup = 200 points: No
European Cup = 400 points: Winners = 400 pts
Season bonus for 1995 player = 25 points (player must play a minimum of 25 matches): 05 player x 25 = 125 pts
European Award for players = 10 points: No

Total: 625 pts

After 5 SS: 2.750 pts

Scre:

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS5%20-%20CL_zps7rgnier6.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS5%20-%20CL_zps7rgnier6.png.html)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS5%20-%20Division_zpshnpxwsji.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS5%20-%20Division_zpshnpxwsji.png.html)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS5%20-%201995_zpshazwgdlw.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS5%20-%201995_zpshazwgdlw.png.html)

It's time to say goodbye, my legend. Not too much goals in his career, but he's always bright when we need!!!
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS5%20-%20Legend_zpsimujwq8l.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS5%20-%20Legend_zpsimujwq8l.png.html)

zionmaster
19-08-15, 05:04 AM
Scoring of SS6:

Dutch title = 100 points: Winners = 100 pts
Dutch Cup = 50 points: No
UEFA Cup = 200 points: Winners = 200 pts
European Cup = 400 points: No
Season bonus for 1995 player = 25 points (player must play a minimum of 25 matches): 09 player x 25 = 225 pts
European Award for players = 10 points: No

Total: 525 pts

After 6 SS: 3.275 pts

Scre:

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS6%20-%20DIVISION_zpsm6wraxeo.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS6%20-%20DIVISION_zpsm6wraxeo.png.html)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS6%20-%2001%20PLAYER%201995_zps1r28bn5o.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS6%20-%2001%20PLAYER%201995_zps1r28bn5o.png.html)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS6%20-%2008%20PLAYER%201995_zpsjlmp6i7l.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS6%20-%2008%20PLAYER%201995_zpsjlmp6i7l.png.html)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS6%20-%20CUP_zpslsoj3v9a.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS6%20-%20CUP_zpslsoj3v9a.png.html)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/zionmaster84/SS6%20-%20UEFA_zps66ytmpst.png (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/zionmaster84/media/SS6%20-%20UEFA_zps66ytmpst.png.html)

Keen
19-10-15, 09:36 AM
The download file for this is Challenge_17_Part_2 not part 1 :pout:

Mark
19-10-15, 11:02 AM
Thanks for spotting that Keen, I've fixed the link now :ok:

trainor83
24-06-16, 12:01 AM
Started this, first season isn't a scoring one right? Wib Wob formations are allow?
I finished the season winning the treble. League, Dutch cup and champions league. Got rid of most players. And a few quality signings...
Maxim is a legend still... also got kallstrom and Rooney on the way. Only signed Bogarde and Reiziger so far for the 1995 team.

Redknapp69
24-06-16, 11:24 PM
Started this, first season isn't a scoring one right? YES Wib Wob formations are allow? YES - You can play any formation you wish however the formation you choose must be grounded within the realms of realism, no playing 2 at the back etc.
I finished the season winning the treble. League, Dutch cup and champions league. Got rid of most players. And a few quality signings...
Maxim is a legend still... also got kallstrom and Rooney on the way. Only signed Bogarde and Reiziger so far for the 1995 team.

Helluva start :ok:

loyal_royal1
22-08-16, 08:32 PM
My squad going into the first scoring season - looking forward to this haven't played ODB for ages but got a few of my old faves in already

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Squad%20season%201.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Squad%20season%201.jpg.html)

AMC
22-08-16, 08:44 PM
Best of luck mate, it's a fun challenge combining the Ajax '95 team and the youngsters.

loyal_royal1
22-08-16, 11:02 PM
Blasted through 2nd season tonight - slow start just 75 points for Reiziger, Bogarde and Finidi. Litmanen kept getting injured so only played 15 times and I've signed Van Der Sar but only in time for him to play 20 times. 2 more 95 legends confirmed for next season already and only need to sell 1 player for being 23 so hopefully more productive next season and back in the Champions League after not qualifying in season 1.

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Season%201%20finish.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Season%201%20finish.jpg.html)

loyal_royal1
26-08-16, 09:08 PM
Second scoring season done - League and cup double 150 points & 7 legends 175 points

250 so far with 3 seasons to go

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Squad%20season%202.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Squad%20season%202.jpg.html)

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Season%202%20finish.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Season%202%20finish.jpg.html)

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Season%202%20legends.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Season%202%20legends.jpg.html)

Redknapp69
31-08-16, 11:47 AM
good going on this mate

Georcelin and Tsigalko :lol: :)

loyal_royal1
08-10-16, 07:34 PM
Season 3 for points - League and cup double and knocked out of Europe on pens again.

8 legends this time, Kluivert joined in January but there were not enough fixtures left to get him to 25 matches.

Some big players left but have been replaced reasonably well so far. Beasley and Kerr will also have to leave this Summer now.

Hoping to get Kanu in but he's at Feyenoord so could be tricky!

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Season%203%20finish.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Season%203%20finish.jpg.html)

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Season%203%20legends.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Season%203%20legends.jpg.html)

500 points in total so far 2 seasons to go

loyal_royal1
09-10-16, 10:33 PM
Season 4 of points - League and Cup double (150 points) for the 3rd year running but still no joy in Europe.

Diego and Huth proving great signings. Shame De Boer and Litmanen both retired and a leg break for Bogarde meant just 6 leagends this season (150 points)


http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Season%204%20finish.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Season%204%20finish.jpg.html)

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Season%204%20legends.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Season%204%20legends.jpg.html)


Final Season - Bit of a struggle in the league with a paper thin squad after more big exits due to age. Managed to get Davids in finally though and Torres was a decent replacement for Tsigalko as we finally had some success in Europe (200 points)! Fitting we eventually got over the line on pens after previous exits.

8 legends (200 points) for the final season and 3 of them scoring the winning pens at the end.

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Season%205%20finish.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Season%205%20finish.jpg.html)

http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff360/mjp00le/Season%205%20legends.jpg (http://s539.photobucket.com/user/mjp00le/media/Season%205%20legends.jpg.html)

1200 points in total

Great challenge. Shame we couldn't quite win the Champions League, pushed multiple winners Dortmund close a couple of times.

AMC
10-10-16, 10:10 AM
Great work mate, I was a big fan of this challenge and recruiting all the 95 legends as well as the u23 players.

generalsmuts
25-01-17, 06:03 PM
Do you get any extra points for Super Cups?

Just finished up my first season with the treble - Dutch Cup, League and Champions League. Now to repeat that another 5 times!

1995 team signings - Reiziger, De Boer (x2), Van Vossen, Bogarde, Litmanen plus Grim already in the squad.

Cleared out all of the over 23s (barely) after a last minute panic free transfer session when I realised those age 22 would turn 23 before the start of this scoring season.

AMC
25-01-17, 06:47 PM
Nothing for Super Cup as per OP, all the best with the recruitment.

generalsmuts
30-01-17, 02:23 PM
Do you get any extra points for Super Cups?

Just finished up my first season with the treble - Dutch Cup, League and Champions League. Now to repeat that another 5 times!

1995 team signings - Reiziger, De Boer (x2), Van Vossen, Bogarde, Litmanen plus Grim already in the squad.

Cleared out all of the over 23s (barely) after a last minute panic free transfer session when I realised those age 22 would turn 23 before the start of this scoring season.

First scoring season then - plenty of points. Only kicker was the semi final loss in the Champs League to Manure who went on to win it.

1995 players - 8 players x 25 points = 200 points
Dutch Title - 100 points
Dutch Cup - 50 points

Total - 350 points

generalsmuts
03-02-17, 10:43 AM
First scoring season then - plenty of points. Only kicker was the semi final loss in the Champs League to Manure who went on to win it.

1995 players - 8 players x 25 points = 200 points
Dutch Title - 100 points
Dutch Cup - 50 points

Total - 350 points

Second scoring season was even more successful.

1995 players - 11 players x 25 points = 275 points
Dutch Title - 100 points
Dutch Cup - 50 points
European Cup - 400 points
European Player Awards - 10 points

Total - 350 (Season 1) + 835 (Season 2) = 1185 points

EDIT: Extra 10 points for Best Goalkeeper Season 2.

AMC
03-02-17, 10:58 AM
Well done on the treble mate, what 95 players are you still missing? Who are ya star u23 players?

generalsmuts
03-02-17, 12:36 PM
Well done on the treble mate, what 95 players are you still missing? Who are ya star u23 players?

Maxim Tsigalko is the star signing. He's unreal, basically a cheat player. Even with the last 2 season's having him come off the bench to see out games while I play the 1995 squad, he's still outscoring everyone else in the league 2 to 1. 187 goals for Ajax in 145 games. Monster.

Pa Modou Kah was a beast as well. Was gutted when I had to sell him to Bayern this season. Mark Kerr is the other star signing.

Then Christian Chivu and Rafael Van Der Vaart are the original squad players that have been amazing. Having to sell Chivu this close season will be difficult.

Everyone else (Kallstrom, Mexes, Agahowa, Essien, Moukoko, Samba erc) is being lost to the shuffle of trying to get the 1995 players to 25 appearances.

EDIT: Still missing Kanu, Kluivert and Overmars. Overmars chose Deportivo over me half way through season 3 which was annoying. I couldn't afford Kanu's wages and haven't had a bif for Kluivert accepted yet.

AMC
03-02-17, 12:40 PM
Yeah it is a bugger when you need to start moving out the players when they turn 23 and finding replacements.

generalsmuts
03-02-17, 12:48 PM
Yeah it is a bugger when you need to start moving out the players when they turn 23 and finding replacements.

I'm massively enjoying this challenge though. Great fun.

Next season will be interesting with 8 first team squad members (including Zlatan, Kerr and Tsigalko) turning 23. Much recruitment needed!

AMC
03-02-17, 12:51 PM
I was going to say, despite Tsigalko scoring for fun for me as well I had trouble shifting him, Maxi Lopez was a great replacement though.

generalsmuts
03-02-17, 02:30 PM
I was going to say, despite Tsigalko scoring for fun for me as well I had trouble shifting him, Maxi Lopez was a great replacement though.

I'm hoping that Georcelin and Samba can produce the goods.

AMC
03-02-17, 02:57 PM
They should be able to for sure.

AMC
03-02-17, 03:00 PM
As posted by generalsmuts

Challenge 17: This is a bit haphazard as I forgot to screenshot the first season and am playing catch up. Proof of the 2 Prem titles and 2 Dutch Cups;http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150...922/7FTuLA.pnghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150...922/XQANdp.png The Champions League win in season 2:http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150...922/fcma8p.png Appearances for season 2:http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150...924/NuMkQI.pnghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150...922/agrdMz.png First season scores; 1995 players - 8 players x 25 points = 200 points Dutch Title - 100 points Dutch Cup - 50 points Total - 350 points Second season scores: 1995 players - 11*players x 25 points = 275*points Dutch Title - 100 points Dutch Cup - 50 points European Cup - 400 points Total - 825 points Total - 350 (Season 1) + 825 (Season 2) = 1175 points

generalsmuts
03-02-17, 03:33 PM
Unexpectedly Fred Grim just won European Best Goalkeeper for season 2 to add on an extra 10 points.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/924/7W2cqU.jpg

Urgh. Van Vossen just retired at the start of season 4. And Fred Grim has just followed suit as I'm typing. There's 50 less points for next season.

AMC
03-02-17, 04:11 PM
Retirements are also a bugger, think Van Vossen retired quite early for me as well.

speedo215
07-02-17, 01:47 PM
Want to try this but the link isn't working

AMC
08-02-17, 12:37 PM
To the save? Not sure if redknapp69 may have it, if not just download the .60 data or .68 patch and create the save yourself mate.

Redknapp69
09-02-17, 02:43 AM
I have it - will post tomorrow (today!)

generalsmuts
09-02-17, 04:37 PM
Second scoring season was even more successful.

1995 players - 11 players x 25 points = 275 points
Dutch Title - 100 points
Dutch Cup - 50 points
European Cup - 400 points
European Player Awards - 10 points

Total - 350 (Season 1) + 835 (Season 2) = 1185 points

EDIT: Extra 10 points for Best Goalkeeper Season 2.

A clean sweep in Season 3! Almost went another season unbeaten were it not for meeting PSV on the last day.

1995 players - 10 players x 25 points = 250 points
Dutch Title - 100 points
Dutch Cup - 50 points
European Cup - 400 points

Total - 350 (Season 1) + 835 (Season 2) +800 (Season 3) = 1985 points

Massive season of upheaval in the transfer market. Brought in Overmars and Kanu (who promptly got injured after 6 games) for 35m between them plus a regen from Leicester for 15m. The big kicker though was 107m in player sales. 32.5m for Chuvu, 10m for Kallstrom, 11.5m each for Agahowa and Yakubu and 12.5m for Kerr. Still trying to sell Tsigalko - offering him out for 2.5m with no takers even after 253 goals in 188 games. Ludicrous.

AMC
09-02-17, 04:42 PM
I told you no one wants Tsigalko :D

Some serious money for some players there though.

generalsmuts
09-02-17, 06:11 PM
I told you no one wants Tsigalko :D

Some serious money for some players there though.

Ridiculously - he won World Footballer of the Year and was runner up in European Footballer of the Year and European Striker of the Year. Next day Juventus bid 20m for him which I negotiated into £19.25m plus 2 youth players I wanted. Harry Redknapp special.

Redknapp69
09-02-17, 06:14 PM
Here - with Tapani Patch - https://www.sendspace.com/file/4kxtvk

Here - without Tapani Patch - https://www.sendspace.com/file/repike

generalsmuts
15-02-17, 01:00 PM
A clean sweep in Season 3! Almost went another season unbeaten were it not for meeting PSV on the last day.

1995 players - 10 players x 25 points = 250 points
Dutch Title - 100 points
Dutch Cup - 50 points
European Cup - 400 points

Total - 350 (Season 1) + 835 (Season 2) +800 (Season 3) = 1985 points

Massive season of upheaval in the transfer market. Brought in Overmars and Kanu (who promptly got injured after 6 games) for 35m between them plus a regen from Leicester for 15m. The big kicker though was 107m in player sales. 32.5m for Chuvu, 10m for Kallstrom, 11.5m each for Agahowa and Yakubu and 12.5m for Kerr. Still trying to sell Tsigalko - offering him out for 2.5m with no takers even after 253 goals in 188 games. Ludicrous.

A transitional year in Season 4 after the clear out. Kluivert and Greg Goosens the only big signings whilst I utilised all the youth signings I'd made in previous seasons.

1995 players - 10 players x 25 points = 250 points
Dutch Title - 100 points
Dutch Cup - 50 points
European Cup - 400 points
European Award - 30 points

Total - 350 (Season 1) + 835 (Season 2) +800 (Season 3) + 830 (Season 4) = 2815 points

EDIT: Kluivert also won European Footballer of the Year and Striker of the Year, Van Der Sar won Goalkeeper of the Year

generalsmuts
15-02-17, 02:20 PM
Kluivert just won World Footballer of the Year. Does that count for the extra points? Technically Europe is in the World so should right?

AMC
16-02-17, 12:33 PM
Afraid not mate, it specifically says European and not World, so it's just points for the European award he got.

generalsmuts
26-02-17, 07:24 PM
A transitional year in Season 4 after the clear out. Kluivert and Greg Goosens the only big signings whilst I utilised all the youth signings I'd made in previous seasons.

1995 players - 10 players x 25 points = 250 points
Dutch Title - 100 points
Dutch Cup - 50 points
European Cup - 400 points
European Award - 30 points

Total - 350 (Season 1) + 835 (Season 2) +800 (Season 3) + 830 (Season 4) = 2815 points

EDIT: Kluivert also won European Footballer of the Year and Striker of the Year, Van Der Sar won Goalkeeper of the Year

And finished! Another treble to finish up.

1995 players - 10 players x 25 points = 250 points
Dutch Title - 100 points
Dutch Cup - 50 points
European Cup - 400 points
European Award - TBC points

Total - 350 (Season 1) + 835 (Season 2) +800 (Season 3) + 830 (Season 4) + 800 (Season 5) = 3615 points

Just waiting on the European Awards to see if there's any more points to roll in.

AMC
27-02-17, 02:01 PM
Congrats on completing the challenge mate, finishing with 4 trebles is incredible!

kikivampy
01-04-17, 03:14 PM
a question:
The 1995 final squad of Ajax means:

-the 13 players who played the final

or

-all the players of the scoresheet?

AMC
02-04-17, 01:27 PM
All the players on the team sheet so all the subs too.

kikivampy
03-04-17, 09:03 AM
someone have them? I have found only the 13 that played the final...

AMC
03-04-17, 09:13 AM
It's in the OP isn't it? I'm in work so pics don't load up so can't check.

kikivampy
03-04-17, 09:52 AM
No pics for me... :frusty:

AMC
03-04-17, 10:04 AM
I heard you the first time mate :D

From memory it's just a screenshot from Wikipedia, so have a look at the 1995 CL Final on wiki, or it could be in the OP of the Ch17 P2 thread.

kikivampy
03-04-17, 11:01 AM
Sorry! a problem with my posts!!!
I've got it!!!

AMC
03-04-17, 11:04 AM
:ok:

steve
07-04-17, 01:13 AM
Love CM01/02, just getting back into it after a while away (FM 2010 is my other passion).

Going to get started on this challenge from tonight - the link isn't working but I've created my own save and will see how I get on.

steve
07-04-17, 02:12 AM
Took all of half an hour for it to crash and lose my transfer work :smash:

Will get back to it tomorrow afternoon.

AJ
07-04-17, 09:06 AM
oi, that's bad. Hope it works out!

steve
07-04-17, 03:31 PM
It's all good - running it on a slightly unpredictable machine. Got it working fine as long as I run windowed.

5 games into the first season, three wins in the league, two poor draws with Levski in the CL but through to the group stage on away goals rule.

Now I just need to sell some more players so I can bring in the rest of my transfer targets...

kikivampy
13-04-17, 02:35 PM
Difficult challenge but very interesting!!!
Return to the origin with the ODB!!!

First year with frustation... Finishing 3rd...

Here the squad before the first official match of the season 2:
http://imgur.com/a/sAXPd
Second year Champion of Holland on the last match!!!
PSV Eindhoven is very strong (final of Champions League)
http://imgur.com/uu0sAZT
Holland Cup winner!
http://imgur.com/v7nL7Pj
Here is my default tactic 4-1-3-2 and my regular team:
http://imgur.com/i7JZ7Wj
Happy to play another time with Skalidis, Tsigalko, Doukas and Ravneng!!! :)
And my 7 Ajax players (No points for Litmanen, isn't it?) of the 1995 Final:
http://imgur.com/a/zcmy2

50+100+ (7*25)=325pts for this season 2!
I wait for another good season, only Ravneng to sell...

kikivampy
15-04-17, 10:57 PM
Here the squad before the first official match of the season 3:
http://imgur.com/a/P9aNE
Second time Champion of Holland!!!
http://imgur.com/hfrOBM0

Here is my regular team for this 3rd season:
http://imgur.com/HWjfJ3R

And my 8 Ajax players of the 1995 Final:
http://imgur.com/a/Z9zns
But a bad injury and African Nations stopped Finidi to reach 25 games... So 7 players...

100+ (7*25)=275pts for this season 3!

Total Challenge: 275+325= 600pts

kikivampy
19-04-17, 01:11 PM
Season 4, same bad season...
Before begining:
http://imgur.com/a/uP7Vr

Premier League winner!
http://imgur.com/uktbJk5

Regular team:
http://imgur.com/s0MOAdI

My 10 Ajax players of 1995:
http://imgur.com/a/BBIXh

Only Overmars couldn't reach 25 games, so we have
100+(9*25)=325pts for season 4.

Total Challenge: 275+325+325=925pts

Winston Bogarde and Ronald DeBoer retired!!! Grrrr :tsk:

kikivampy
22-04-17, 09:41 AM
Adding the Litmanen points (Thanks to AMC!!!) :yo:
Only 25pts (season 2...)
http://imgur.com/JjkX02K

925+25=950pts

kikivampy
22-04-17, 02:14 PM
Season 5, I do the best I can...
Before this 5th season:
http://imgur.com/a/OyGsr

Premier League winner...
http://imgur.com/J0tYuO4

Cup winner!
http://imgur.com/L5IeqBN

Regular team:
http://imgur.com/r18mEgX

9 Ajax players of 1995:
http://imgur.com/a/n3lfl

Peter Van Vossen 38 years old, 7 goals - 6 assists!!!

100+50+(9*25)=375pts for season 5.

Total Challenge: 950+375=1325pts

Last season!!!

kikivampy
24-04-17, 06:57 PM
End of the road for this interesting challenge!
Exactly the same season than the 5th...

Season 6 Pre season
http://imgur.com/a/mlZrn

Premier League Winner
http://imgur.com/X6Nqxy3

Cup winner
http://imgur.com/zT0ZF31

Regular team:
http://imgur.com/uFhY64K

The same 9 players! Van Vossen is 39!!!
http://imgur.com/a/XZXI5

100+50+(9*25)=375pts for season 6.

Total challenge 17 part 1
1325+375=1700pts

Best result in Europe, 1/4 of UEFA Cup...

dweatherston11
22-03-18, 10:56 PM
Starting this one today. My second official challenge after the Barbers of Sevilla was a failure. Going to enjoy this one I think.

dweatherston11
24-03-18, 09:44 AM
Season 1 over and done with. Won the league, but lost out in the cup and Uefa Cup both in quarter finals. Only lost 1 game in the league, so the board are pretty happy.

Managed to sell everyone so got plenty money in. Only John Niewenburg (sp) I had to release.

Season 2 will start with the inclusion of Bogarde and Reizeger to join Ronald de Boer as the 1995 group.

Young Signings:Yakubu Aiyegbeni, Mark Kerr, Patrik Andersson(GK), Fredrik Risp and Joselito Vaca. More to come over the summer too probably

Notable moves are Finidi to Arsenal, Davids to Milan, Overmars to Celtic. Will keep my eye on them!

Also Fred Grim is leaving, I guessed since he was in my original squad he didn't count for points. Plus I don't want to play him 25 games...

dweatherston11
25-03-18, 07:08 PM
Season 2 done, and it ended in disappointment despite winning the title. PSV wouldn't go away, and never did really. I got a 2-2 drew in Eindhoven in gw33 to stay 3 points clear going in to our last match. They were excellent all year, luckily I was slightly better.
Lost out in Phase 2 of Champions League to Juventus and Dortmund. Buffon got MoM against me home and away so I lost both games and never recovered.
Annoyingly lost the Dutch Cup final on penalties. Again the goalkeeper getting Mom against me, a common theme.
Anyway. Points for the season...

Dutch Title = 100 points
3 * 95 squad 25 appearances (Bogarde, Reizeger, R. De Boer) = 75points
Total = 175 points

https://imageshack.com/i/pnxNVdWQp
https://imageshack.com/i/pm65XbNpp
https://imageshack.com/i/pnXDKAe2p
https://imageshack.com/i/pmrk1Oodp
https://imageshack.com/i/poFvNeCBp

Next season the team will be better. All my starting 11 still around, will try and add a 95 player over the summer. Van der Sar most likely.
Jermain Defoe should prove to be a good signing, and Joselito Vaca was outstanding on his first season scoring 27 goals in 28 starts. He has 3more years before he is too old. Youssouf Hersi proved to be a great find this season, and Johnny Heitinga looks like he will become my captain and centre half next season. I wish I didn't have to play Bogarde so much! He was injured a fair but so had to play him when fit.
Kanu moved to Inter so will be tough to get him unless he doesn't play next season.

Enjoying the challenge! Hopefully PSV don't push me so hard next year and I can rest in some league games.
And also, Ronaldo de Boer got a 10 game ban for smashing someone with a left hook, so he will miss the start of next season.

dweatherston11
02-04-18, 11:08 AM
Finished the challenge. It wasn't pretty! It definitely wasnt successful.
Will count up my score and see how it went.
Season 4 the third last season when PSV won the Champions League, League, Cup treble, a particular low!

dweatherston11
07-04-18, 07:16 PM
Season 3

https://imageshack.com/i/pnvJHAz6p - Appearances end of the season
https://imageshack.com/i/pmXnLnKOp - Appearances end of the season

Lost the cup final against Twente, awful display
PSV beat me to the title


4*95 squad = 100 points

total so far 275 points


Season 4

Appearances - https://imageshack.com/i/pnumAnJIp and https://imageshack.com/i/pmrVEVQsp

PSV won the cup final, league and Champions League, is that what I am supposed to do!!??

They beat me in the Dutch Cup, 3rd season in a row I lost the final.

https://imageshack.com/a/img924/5553/JH3e85.png

Only highlight was winning the UEFA Cup. Roma and Dortmund knocked me down to the UEFA Cup, I made it worthwhile.

4*95 squad = 100 points
UEFA Cup win = 200 points

total so far 575 points


Season 5

Appearances - https://imageshack.com/i/pmxwD0CMp and https://imageshack.com/i/poLne2ELp

Finally won the Dutch Cup! https://imageshack.com/i/pnb2CbbSp

Lost the league to PSV again :(

4*95 squad = 100 points
Dutch Cup = 50 points


total so far = 725

Season 6, final season

Appearances - https://imageshack.com/i/pmwq2wQFp and https://imageshack.com/i/pnC81VPzp

Double Dutch, finally won the title back, and took the Cup - https://imageshack.com/i/poP4BfiSp

Title Winners, not the best season but good enough - https://imageshack.com/i/pmL21L0Vp

5*95 players = 125
Dutch Cup = 50
Dutch Title = 100
total = 275


GRAND TOTAL = 1000 points. Nice and easy to remember!

RTMFW
22-04-18, 11:29 AM
So I'm just starting the 2nd season of this (wont finish for a while as playing this at my folks for a few days, playing Roman General one at home), to clarify, the match day squad for 1995 is all 16 players that were named right? (I saw a post earlier that only mentioned the 13 that were on the pitch).

Also the scoring system doesn't add points for Jari Litmanen as he starts in the squad, however my version (.68 I believe) he was already a Liverpool player and Fred Grim was in the squad so do Fred's point count and Jari's not? (i.e. did I just waste money signing him!)

Faceless
27-04-18, 05:47 AM
Are you sure that you are using original database?

I already started this challenge.

As for your questions, I found earlier posts mentioned that

1995 squad mean every players including subs

Litmanen's point should be included (At first Kiki did not. Later AMC asked him to include points from Litmanen)

RTMFW
27-04-18, 06:36 PM
Are you sure that you are using original database?

I already started this challenge.

As for your questions, I found earlier posts mentioned that

1995 squad mean every players including subs

Litmanen's point should be included (At first Kiki did not. Later AMC asked him to include points from Litmanen)

Thanks, I started with the only ODB I have, I don't remember ever playing the original database with Jari not a Liverpool player! Anyway, will be a while before I can pick this one back up as home again and slogging through the Italian General, that might take me til next year!

Faceless
29-04-18, 06:27 PM
Season 1

Lots of transfer. Won league and domestic cup. Defeated by Roma during quarter final of champions league. This is the only tactic i use in this challenge


https://preview.ibb.co/eNvyBx/Tactic.jpg (https://ibb.co/dpKQrx)



Season 2

300 points


Let Ibrahimovic and Chivu go to bring more 1995 players in. At the beginning of season 2, I had 8 of 1995 squad

https://preview.ibb.co/j740Oc/2bsq.jpg (https://ibb.co/dpzpGx)
https://preview.ibb.co/exoGwx/2bsqr.jpg (https://ibb.co/gW7WUH)

Not very good year in my opinion we won domestic league. Defeated 3-0 in cup final. Disqualified from champions cup

League: 100 points

https://preview.ibb.co/m2YkOc/2league.jpg (https://ibb.co/kdfApH)

1995 Squad: 200 points

https://preview.ibb.co/k84jic/2199501.jpg (https://ibb.co/dfXtbx)
https://preview.ibb.co/e4YYbx/2199502.jpg (https://ibb.co/fUR89H)
https://preview.ibb.co/cCzvpH/2199503.jpg (https://ibb.co/bRg89H)
https://preview.ibb.co/bT01UH/2199504.jpg (https://ibb.co/cN1mwx)
https://preview.ibb.co/m8FqOc/2199505.jpg (https://ibb.co/kbeH3c)
https://preview.ibb.co/jahtbx/2199506.jpg (https://ibb.co/bzS4ic)
https://preview.ibb.co/igheic/2199507.jpg (https://ibb.co/fE5Mwx)
https://preview.ibb.co/c2xZGx/2199508.jpg (https://ibb.co/hJK39H)



Season 3

725 points


Beginning squad

https://preview.ibb.co/iWWi9H/3bsq.jpg (https://ibb.co/cDQX3c)
https://preview.ibb.co/kn8kOc/3bsqr.jpg (https://ibb.co/dyBi9H)

League: 100 points

https://preview.ibb.co/d8HC3c/3league.jpg (https://ibb.co/mbp39H)

Champions Cup: 400 points

https://preview.ibb.co/dXfRUH/3cl.jpg (https://ibb.co/fCzybx)

1995 Squad: 225 points

https://preview.ibb.co/cECJbx/3199501.jpg (https://ibb.co/kpS6UH)
https://preview.ibb.co/meq4Gx/3199502.jpg (https://ibb.co/mmY23c)
https://preview.ibb.co/f5jmUH/3199503.jpg (https://ibb.co/hcKLpH)
https://preview.ibb.co/fsTfpH/3199504.jpg (https://ibb.co/jseWwx)
https://preview.ibb.co/fYMN3c/3199505.jpg (https://ibb.co/hyEybx)
https://preview.ibb.co/giOD9H/3199506.jpg (https://ibb.co/cjBN3c)
https://preview.ibb.co/hZpgwx/3199507.jpg (https://ibb.co/c21GUH)
https://preview.ibb.co/jkZEGx/3199508.jpg (https://ibb.co/e05bUH)
https://preview.ibb.co/bDdKic/3199509.jpg (https://ibb.co/hcikOc)



Season 4

850 points


Beginning squad

https://preview.ibb.co/gtYzGx/4bsq.jpg (https://ibb.co/eafeGx)
https://preview.ibb.co/mtrKGx/4bsqr.jpg (https://ibb.co/nA1x3c)

Trophies: 550 points

https://preview.ibb.co/iibVOc/4cl.jpg (https://ibb.co/cRF1UH)
https://preview.ibb.co/cA3o9H/4cup.jpg (https://ibb.co/e6nFpH)
https://preview.ibb.co/cTZvpH/4league.jpg (https://ibb.co/itdMUH)

1995 squad: 300 points

https://preview.ibb.co/iAZL6x/4199501.jpg (https://ibb.co/h9rdtc)
https://preview.ibb.co/fpB06x/4199502.jpg (https://ibb.co/gNmYRx)
https://preview.ibb.co/hmT2KH/4199503.jpg (https://ibb.co/jydPYc)
https://preview.ibb.co/hZcjYc/4199504.jpg (https://ibb.co/jyUL6x)
https://preview.ibb.co/ceSjYc/4199505.jpg (https://ibb.co/eUCweH)
https://preview.ibb.co/da04Yc/4199506.jpg (https://ibb.co/e8bdtc)
https://preview.ibb.co/jQiPYc/4199507.jpg (https://ibb.co/gwOPYc)
https://preview.ibb.co/gqD2KH/4199508.jpg (https://ibb.co/enmdtc)
https://preview.ibb.co/bMwdtc/4199509.jpg (https://ibb.co/joSUzH)
https://preview.ibb.co/jCOf6x/4199510.jpg (https://ibb.co/jgWpzH)
https://preview.ibb.co/fjwBDc/4199511.jpg (https://ibb.co/dwvhKH)
https://preview.ibb.co/iixweH/4199512.jpg (https://ibb.co/cKsUzH)



Season 5

800 points


Beginning squad

https://preview.ibb.co/mbG06x/5bsq.jpg (https://ibb.co/n9rYRx)
https://preview.ibb.co/kpCweH/5bsqr.jpg (https://ibb.co/cEx7mx)

Trophies: 550 points

https://preview.ibb.co/kVQcmx/5cl.jpg (https://ibb.co/hHVXKH)
https://preview.ibb.co/ciPEYc/5cup.jpg (https://ibb.co/h0miRx)
https://preview.ibb.co/fNrBDc/5league.jpg (https://ibb.co/epGdtc)

1995 squad: 250 points

https://preview.ibb.co/e4UbeH/5199501.jpg (https://ibb.co/heorDc)
https://preview.ibb.co/gbJrDc/5199502.jpg (https://ibb.co/gsjnmx)
https://preview.ibb.co/iLxJtc/5199503.jpg (https://ibb.co/cmRBDc)
https://preview.ibb.co/i5Jf6x/5199504.jpg (https://ibb.co/f8pWDc)
https://preview.ibb.co/hpuL6x/5199505.jpg (https://ibb.co/bXYrDc)
https://preview.ibb.co/iO2UzH/5199506.jpg (https://ibb.co/dzy2KH)
https://preview.ibb.co/kM6pzH/5199507.jpg (https://ibb.co/dtZytc)
https://preview.ibb.co/mtVGeH/5199508.jpg (https://ibb.co/dJFSmx)
https://preview.ibb.co/b0D2KH/5199509.jpg (https://ibb.co/nBWpzH)
https://preview.ibb.co/bu3f6x/5199510.jpg (https://ibb.co/f9fSmx)



Season 6

750 points


Beginning squad

https://preview.ibb.co/i6yzYc/6bsq.jpg (https://ibb.co/geNhmx)
https://preview.ibb.co/hwk2mx/6bsqr.jpg (https://ibb.co/bXga6x)

Trophies: 500 points

https://preview.ibb.co/mocXmx/6cl.jpg (https://ibb.co/bHdGDc)
https://preview.ibb.co/gJL7KH/6league.jpg (https://ibb.co/buGgeH)

1995 squad: 250 points

https://preview.ibb.co/bO2Xmx/6199501.jpg (https://ibb.co/hn7yRx)
https://preview.ibb.co/f4QwDc/6199502.jpg (https://ibb.co/dP6Q6x)
https://preview.ibb.co/fjRsmx/6199503.jpg (https://ibb.co/gQjOtc)
https://preview.ibb.co/kA3uzH/6199504.jpg (https://ibb.co/iN1Q6x)
https://preview.ibb.co/nbT56x/6199505.jpg (https://ibb.co/jniuzH)
https://preview.ibb.co/efcyRx/6199506.jpg (https://ibb.co/j4gQ6x)
https://preview.ibb.co/cQrsmx/6199507.jpg (https://ibb.co/gP3itc)
https://preview.ibb.co/dCvwDc/6199508.jpg (https://ibb.co/gXXyRx)
https://preview.ibb.co/bBYitc/6199509.jpg (https://ibb.co/gTuCmx)
https://preview.ibb.co/iPQwDc/6199510.jpg (https://ibb.co/bCK1eH)



Total 300+725+850+800+750 = 3,425 points

dweatherston11
02-05-18, 08:46 AM
Got to question how you got Kluivert in season 2?

Faceless
02-05-18, 04:45 PM
Got to question how you got Kluivert in season 2?


Actually i got him during the first season :D He was the second player in 1995 squad i managed to sign. First one was Ronald De Boer. I added 1995 players in my shortlist at the beginning of the first season and check my shortlist frequently. In this way, whenever they are unhappy or interested in my team, i won't miss a chance to get them.

https://preview.ibb.co/b1P117/Kluivert.jpg (https://ibb.co/mvXAuS)

Same reason as at the beginning of season2 when van der Sar interested in my team, I didn't hesitate to let Ibrahimovic and Chivu go to get enough money.

Inuk79
25-06-19, 10:24 AM
Start of season 2, does it count since I forgot the screenshots in time?

https://ibb.co/HVN7dNN
https://ibb.co/TPxmhNZ

Faceless
26-06-19, 08:25 AM
Start of season 2, does it count since I forgot the screenshots in time?

https://ibb.co/HVN7dNN
https://ibb.co/TPxmhNZ

Did you sell any player between the first match day and the day you took screenshots of squad. If not, a screenshot of transfer out and match fixtures at the start of the season should be enough. But if you did sell players during those time, I would need screenshot of player that you sold during that time to ensure that your squad are younger than 23 at the start of the season.

Inuk79
05-07-19, 08:57 AM
Got fired before the end of season 2, so decided to restart the challenge.

bacsi77
24-11-19, 02:50 PM
ODB means .60 or .68? Just because in .60 Litmanen is in the Pool, not Ajax. Or both database is OK?

Faceless
25-11-19, 08:00 AM
I would say you should stick one that Litmanen stay at Ajax so that it's inline with the OP.

I remember that Kluivert and Overmars were monsters , strongly recommended to sign them

bacsi77
25-11-19, 09:51 AM
So I have to use the .68 database?

AMC
25-11-19, 10:29 AM
To the save? Not sure if redknapp69 may have it, if not just download the .60 data or .68 patch and create the save yourself mate.

Either is fine.

James_y
04-02-20, 01:26 PM
This was a fun challenge and got to play with some classic players from back in the day but I didn't do well enough in European competitions to post a challenging total...

Total Score - 2625

Season 2-6 Squads:


https://i.imgur.com/f6pFw4k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/g6sls6S.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/389aEU2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SARbbRJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EFnm3Q5.jpg

Tactics:


https://i.imgur.com/tIVUSfw.jpg

Champions League Wins (1) - 400 Points


https://i.imgur.com/MI0URLD.jpg

UEFA Cup Wins (1) - 200 Points


https://i.imgur.com/FcWkuSV.jpg

League Wins (5) - 500 Points


https://i.imgur.com/CEkUWOn.jpg

Cup Wins (4) - 200 Points


https://i.imgur.com/MEwsXV2.jpg

Edgar Davids (3 seasons) - 75 Points


https://i.imgur.com/73smKao.jpg

Frank De Boer (4 seasons) - 100 Points


https://i.imgur.com/j766scI.jpg

Finidi (5 seasons) - 125 Points


https://i.imgur.com/jLhT2wx.jpg

Jari Litmanen (5 seasons) - 125 Points


https://i.imgur.com/SOaulzD.jpg

Marc Overmars (5 seasons) - 125 points


https://i.imgur.com/unLvF3w.jpg

Kanu (2 seasons) - 50 Points


https://i.imgur.com/nGhmeuO.jpg

Patrick Kluivert (2 seasons) - 50 points


https://i.imgur.com/6oIG3a0.jpg

Ronald De Boer (5 seasons) - 125 Points


https://i.imgur.com/D7iNe8R.jpg

Michael Reiziger (5 seasons) - 125 Points


https://i.imgur.com/M9OsKmK.jpg

Clarence Seedorf (4 seasons) - 100 Points


https://i.imgur.com/z99HWDE.jpg

Peter van Vossen (3 seasons) - 75 Points


https://i.imgur.com/ZXHQZoX.jpg

Edwin van der Sar (5 seasons) - 125 Points


https://i.imgur.com/st7ecAW.jpg

Winston Bogarde (5 seasons) - 125 Points


https://i.imgur.com/5cWuNrw.jpg

luke_21
03-08-20, 10:42 AM
Does anyone know.. can this challenge be played with Tapani patch 2.21.1 and the ODB data?

James_y
03-08-20, 08:59 PM
Does anyone know.. can this challenge be played with Tapani patch 2.21.1 and the ODB data?

Yep think that is fine mate