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Baron Zbimg
07-09-15, 09:53 PM
Strong looking team and I expect Vitoria to keep on dominating in Portugal but you may lack a few players to go far in Europe.

RuiEsteves
07-09-15, 10:08 PM
Strong looking team and I expect Vitoria to keep on dominating in Portugal but you may lack a few players to go far in Europe.
Quite possibly, the group is thiner and there were no high-profile recruits bar Kolo Touré. But I like this squad, it's filled with young Portuguese players and it has great potential!

kuy
07-09-15, 10:11 PM
Great to have this back, looking forward to seeing how the academy products get on!

RuiEsteves
07-09-15, 11:03 PM
The Seleção under Fernando Santos looks different than it did with Tito Forbs; they now play with a sweeper, 2 wing-backs and 2 strikers.

- Nélson Veiga, Bocas, Coutinho and Marco Tabuas are called-up in the squad to start Euro 2012 Qualifiers - while the big news is that young Academy midfielder Fernandes is also part of it! Bruno Melo (AC Milan), Paulo Teixeira (Atlético Madrid) and Cristiano Ronaldo (FC Porto) are there as well.

- Forbs does not utter a word, but is shocked that neither Ednilson nor Pinto Neves get called up, and to a lesser extent, Bosingwa.

- Valter continues to be the keeper for Portugal U21, while strikers André, Joséto and Alberto get their first caps.

BobMem
08-09-15, 02:52 PM
Nice to see this back :ok:

Some big losses in the transfer market though. Touré looks good but he's hardly a direct replacement for all the creative quality lost. Europe particularly could be very tough this season.

KUTGW!

RuiEsteves
08-09-15, 06:46 PM
It’s time for Champions League draw and it won’t be an easy group for Vitoria. The big name is Setubal’s nemesis Internazionale, who twice in 2006 and 2009 have eliminated the Portuguese in the quarter-finals of the competition. Although not a major name on the European scene, FC Nürnberg won’t be easy since they were crowned last year German champions! finally Hibernian should struggle to score many points in this pool.


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Italy is by far the nation whose representatives Vitoria has encountered most often in Europe (16 clashes!), the record being positive at (9-7). However this is Tito’s nightmare: Inter, one of the few clubs on the planet the coach hates to his guts following the events of the CL 2006…

- UEFA Cup 1966/67 - Round 1 - Juventus (0-2, 1-3)
- UEFA Cup 1968/69 - Round 3 - Fiorentina (3-0, 1-2)
- UEFA Cup 1972/73 - Round 2 - Fiorentina (1-0, 1-2)
- UEFA Cup 1972/73 - Round 3 - Inter Milan (2-0, 0-1)
- UEFA Cup 1999/00 - Round 1 - AS Roma (1-0, 0-7)
- UEFA Cup 2002/03 – ¼ final - Bologna 1909 (0-3, 0-2)
- European Supercup 2004 - AS Roma (0-0, pen)
- Champions League 2005/06 – Phase 2 – AS Roma (2-0, 1-2)
- Champions League 2005/06 – ¼ final - Inter Milan (0-3, 0-1)
- Champions League 2006/07 - Phase 1 - AS Roma (0-2, 0-2)
- UEFA Cup 2006/07 - Final - Napoli (1-2)
- Champions League 2007/08 – Phase 2 – Udinese (1-0, 0-0)
- Champions League 2007/08 – ¼ final – Juventus (2-0, 1-1)
- Champions League 2008/09 – Phase 1 – Perugia (1-1, 2-0)
- Champions League 2008/09 – Phase 2 – Parma (1-0, 2-0)
- Champions League 2008/09 – ¼ final - Inter Milan (0-0, 0-1)

It’s the first time Setubal clash with Nürnberg and although the record vs German clubs remains negative (2v3), the Portuguese have always prevailed under Tito Forbs:

- Cup Winners’ Cup 1967/68 - Round 2 – Bayern Munich (1-1, 2-6)
- UEFA Cup 1969/70 - Round 3 – Herta Berlin (1-1, 0-1)
- UEFA Cup 1973/74 – ¼ final – VfB Stuttgart (2-2, 0-1)
- Champions League 2008/09 – Phase 2 – SV Wacker Burghausen (2-0, 3-0)
- Champions League 2009/10 – Phase 2 – VfB Stuttgart (1-0, 1-0)

As far as Scottish sides are concerned, it’s been an all-Celtic affair so far with a balanced outcome (2v2):

- Champions League 2005/06 - Phase 2 – Celtic Glasgow (1-0, 0-2)
- Champions League 2006/07 – Phase 1 – Celtic Glasgow (0-3, 3-0)
- Champions League 2007/08 – ½ final – Celtic Glasgow (0-1, 2-1)
- Champions League 2008/09 – Phase 2 – Celtic Glasgow (2-0 , 1-0)

RuiEsteves
08-09-15, 06:58 PM
> Sep.11, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#3) – Vitoria Setubal v Santa Clara : 2-0 / goals: Pinto Neves, Kaka / assists: Olembé, Fernandes / MoM: Fernandes
A solid game and deserved win, with the return in better shape of striker Pinto Neves.

It’s time for the first European game of the season, and it’s a challenge already with a visit to the German champions who have an all-round solid team.

> Sep.14, 2010 / Champions League (Phase.1, #1) – FC Nürnberg v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Kaka (2) / assists: Marajo, Fernandes / MoM: Kaka
It’s a very tough start of the game for Vitoria, as Nürnberg dominate and Ednilson is forced at 18’ to a life-saving tackle in the area. After 30’, Os Guerreiros have already been booked 5 times! but experience is on the Portuguese side who gradually take control of the match, scoring twice by a superb Kaka for a deserved away victory.

Much like vs VfB Stuttgart last season in Phase 2, Setubal stun the Bundesliga champs in the first game with a key win.

> Sep.19, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#4) – Espinho v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1 / goal: Kaka
In spite of their clear domination and Fernandes skills in midfield, the amazing performance (8 saves!) of Espinho’s keeper Nuno Marques force the visitors to a draw.

Bonfim now gets ready for the receipt of arch-rivals Inter Milan, who are guaranteed to receive plenty of booing as they will enter the pitch given their past History against Vitoria. While the Italian giants still have very well known players in their ranks such as Andrea Pirlo, Patrick Vieira, Cristiano Zanetti or Mohamed Kallon, they also have new faces such as Cristian Chivu, Gabriel Milito and ex- Sporting CP star striker David Trézéguet!

> Sep.22, 2010 / Champions League (Phase.1, #2) – Vitoria Setubal v Inter : 1-0 / goal: Fernandes / assist: Ednilson / MoM: Coutinho
The crowd erupts after 3’ as home-grown Fernandes pounds a header home on a corner-kick, what a start! Inter are groggy and utterly dominated for an hour, owing it to a superb Marchisio between the sticks and their crossbar, to be only a goal down. The Italians push hard in the final minutes, creating chances brilliantly parried by Valter – although most attacks were thwarted thanks to Coutinho's defensive maestria.


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Finally, the great Inter fall in Bonfim! and it’s a much deserved win, qualification for the next stage being now wide-open.

> Sep.26, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#5) – Vitoria Setubal v Farense : 0-0 / MoM: Fernandes
The players from Faro stay behind in defense, attempting… zero shot at goal! Os Guerreiros never find a way through and disappoint, except Fernandes once again excellent.

Vitoria now travel to Edinburgh to face group’s minnows: Hibs. Forbs rotates a few players.

> Sep.29, 2010 / Champions League (Phase.1, #3) – Hibernian v Vitoria Setubal : 0-3 / goals: Oliveisa, Ednilson, Antunes / assists: Bocas, Touré, Bosingwa / MoM: Ednilson
Os Guerreiros play a great game, dominate from start to finish and score 3 goals under the leadership of a superb Ednilson. Young Paulo Antunes scores his 1st ever goal and the only bad news of the evening is a nasty 3-months injury picked by Salomon Olembé.

RuiEsteves
08-09-15, 09:41 PM
> Oct.4, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#6) – Campomaiorense v Vitoria Setubal : 0-3 / goals: Barros, Kaka, Marajo / assists: Marajo, Kaka / MoM: Marajo
The wide score flattens Vitoria who prevailed thanks to its Brazilian legion: Humberto Barros gets his 1st goal, Kaka was true to himself while Marajo had one of those outstanding games he sometimes delivers.

While Portugal had a good start in their Euro 2012 Qualifies with 10-pts in 4 matches, young Fernandes is the very first Academy product under Tito Forbs to receive an international cap! the entire club is made proud.
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> Oct.16, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#7) – Vitoria Setubal v Leiria : 3-0 / goals: Pinto Neves (2), Kaka / assists: Ednilson, Paulito, Tosa / MoM: Pinto Neves
Setubal finally deliver a superb reference home game where they crush Leiria. Barros continues to shine on the left flank while Paulito and Ednilson own the midfield. But it was really the day of Pinto Neves, unstoppable with 2 goals.

It is now supposedly an easy CL game against Hibs. Tito rests a few starters.

> Oct.19, 2010 / Champions League (Phase.1, #4) – Vitoria Setubal v Hibernian : 2-1 / goals: Olisadebe, Oliveisa / assists: Paulito, Tosa / MoM: Paulito
Vitoria dominate but fight until late in the game to secure victory. Olisadebe scores and proves he remains a threat to any defense, while young Academy star Paulito delivers a stellar performance on the continental stage.

Nürnberg and Inter having drawn (0-0) at Frankenstadion, with 4 wins in 4 games Setubal are already through to Phase 2!... easier than originally expected.

> Oct.24, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#8) – Varzim v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Pinto Neves (2) / assists: Ednilson (2) / MoM: Pinto Neves
Unstoppable Setubal steam-roll over Varzim and should have won by a much bigger margin. Ednilson creates the chances which Pinto Neves converts.

Qualification in hand, Tito rotates the team a little before hosting the German champions.

> Oct.27, 2010 / Champions League (Phase.1, #5) – Vitoria Setubal v FC Nürnberg : 2-1 / goals: Mendonça, Tosa / assists: Paulito, Ednilson / MoM: Coutinho
Vitoria are fortunate to be up (2-0) after an hour, having converted all their chances. They lift the foot in the last half-hour which is totally dominated by Nürnberg who get only a goal back in the dying seconds thanks to great defensive performances from Coutinho and Kolo Touré.

That’s a game Os Guerreiros did not deserve to win. Nevertheless they are now certain to top the group and can travel to Milan relaxed.

> Oct.31, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#9) – Vitoria Setubal v Chaves : 1-0 / goal: Nélson Veiga / MoM: Nélson Veiga
Bottom of the table Chaves travel to Bonfim to salvage one point and they won’t fire a single shot the entire game. Vitoria play a terrible 1st half but create chances in the 2nd, managing a late goal by Nélson Veiga.

6 wins in 6 games, top of their CL pool: what a great month of October this has been!

kuy
08-09-15, 10:50 PM
Going really well, especially in Europe! Good to see your first academy product win a cap!

Will you rest players for the trip to Inter, or do you want revenge too much? Could you eliminate them from the competition if you won?

RuiEsteves
09-09-15, 08:04 AM
Will you rest players for the trip to Inter, or do you want revenge too much? Could you eliminate them from the competition if you won?
Sadly not, Inter are guaranteed 2nd spot. Tito will rotate some players, no choice really, but we will still be looking for an upset in San Siro!

RuiEsteves
09-09-15, 08:12 AM
> Nov.7, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#10) – Salgueiros v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Kaka (2) / assists: Tosa, Fernandes / MoM: Kaka
A trip to Salgueiros is never easy, and this one is even more tricky with the constant showers. Still, Vitoria play well and dominate, Brazilian Kaka pounding 2 great headers into the nets.

Still undefeated after 10 games and having conceded only one goal (!!), Setubal have already built a 4pts cushion at the top of the Liga over their main rivals Sporting CP. Benfica are 10pts behind and FC Porto are 15th with a mere 9pts…


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Without any pressure since Vitoria are guaranteed the group’s first place, it is time for the feared trip to San Siro against an already qualified Inter who will be looking at making an impression against their old-time Portuguese foes… Tito is forced to rest several starters, but the rivalry is such that Os Guerreiros want to get a result in Milan.

> Nov.9, 2010 / Champions League (Phase.1, #6) – Inter v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0
Vitoria play a very solid game, creating as many chances as their hosts including Mendonça hitting the post. Alas, the sole goal by Marchionni in the 1st half is enough to secure the win for the Nerazzuri. Nothing to be ashamed of really.

After 16 games undefeated, here comes the first loss of the season. Still, Setubal top their group for an overall great performance.


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FC Porto miserably crash out of European competitions, finishing 4th of their group while Sporting CP, 2009 and 2010 CL finalists, finish 3rd and will continue in the UEFA Cup.

RuiEsteves
09-09-15, 08:27 AM
Phase 2 draws are always a killer and Tito can’t say he is pleased when he discovers Group A. Vitoria will be up against one of the competition favourites, the “other club” from the Lombardia capital: AC Milan. Italian champs in 2009, vice-champions in 2010 and CL winners in 2007, they now field as their playmaker ex-Bonfim idol Bruno Melo! English Premier League champions Blackburn Rovers and la Liga’s Sevilla F.C may not be as hot, but they will be very tough to overcome in this tight pool.


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Once again Setubal cross the path of a Calcio side, although weirdly they had never met AC Milan before. The all-time Italian record is now at (10-7), since the last encounter with Inter turned in Vitoria’s favour.

Tito’s performance against English sides has been impeccable so far, while the overall record is positive (6-3):
- 1968/69 – Newcastle United (3-1, 1-5) - UEFA Cup - 1/4 final
- 1969/70 - Liverpool (1-0, 2-3) - UEFA Cup - Round 2
- 1970/71 - Leeds United (1-1, 1-2) - UEFA Cup - 1/4 final
- 1972/73 - Tottenham Hotspur (2-1, 0-1) - UEFA Cup - 1/4 final
- 1973/74 - Leeds United (3-1, 0-1) - UEFA Cup - Round 3
- 2003/04 - Leeds United (3-2, 1-0) - UEFA Cup - Round 4
- 2003/04 - Southampton (3-0, 3-0) - UEFA Cup - 1/2 final
- 2005/06 – Liverpool (3-0, 1-1) - Champions League – Phase 1
- 2009/10 – Manchester United (1-1, 2-0) - Champions League – Phase 1

Finally while Setubal will clash for the first time with Sevilla F.C., the overall historic record against Spanish clubs being also good (6-3):
- 1974/75 - Real Zaragoza (1-1, 0-4) - UEFA Cup - Round 1
- 2004/05 - Real Betis Balompié (1-0, 0-2) - UEFA Cup - Round 1
- 2005/06 - Real Celta de Vigo (2-0, 3-0) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2005/06 - FC Barcelona (0-4, 3-2) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2007/08 - FC Barcelona (0-0, 0-0) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2008/09 - Real Madrid (3-2, 1-0) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2008/09 - FC Barcelona (3-0, 0-1) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2009/10 - Real Zaragoza (1-0, 1-0) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2009/10 - FC Barcelona (1-3, 4-0) - Champions League - Phase 2

kuy
09-09-15, 12:00 PM
That will be a tough group, four very good teams!

RuiEsteves
10-09-15, 08:42 PM
While one Academy product, Tosa, shines with a hat-trick for Portugal U21’s – another, Tiago Pereira, is loaned out to Segunda’s Rio Ave in order to get some game time.

Demoralized with their 15th place in the table, the once mighty Porto travel to Bonfim with Cristiano Ronaldo in their ranks.

> Nov.19, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#11) – Vitoria Setubal v FC Porto : 2-0 / goals: Tosa, Pinto Neves / assists: Barros (2) / MoM: Barros
It’s a half-cheering, half-booing crowd that greets CR7 on the pitch when the game starts. His team will be out-classed by the locals, Humberto Barros crossing twice from the left flank on both goals while Saliou Lassissi reminds the coach how solid a CB he can be.

AC Milan are litterally star-studded at every single position; a world-class team, in every line.


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Tito decides to trust his young guard and fields Valter, Coutinho, Fernandes, Paulito, Tosa and Pinto Neves – all Portuguese under 22yr-old, 3 of which out of Setubal’s Academy. How will they fare against such opposition?

> Nov.23, 2010 / Champions League (Phase.2, #1) – Vitoria Setubal v AC Milan : 0-2

- a few days after the mitigated welcome back to Cristiano Ronaldo, the contrast is stark with the huge and prolounged cheer from Bonfim when the crowd see Bruno Melo wearing the rossoneri shirt. Fans passionately greet their ex-captain, maybe the best ever player to have worn the Setubal jersey.
- 4’: Bruno Melo immediately indicates that he means business, as his long-range shot flies through the wet grass to be just parried by Valter; Nesta follows-on and scores, disallowed for a dubious offside… phew
- 23’: although young Paulito clearly struggles in midfield, Os Guerreiros gradually take control and legend Buffon is forced to save twice.
- 45’: the end of the first half is all Italian though, with Esteban Cambiasso causing havoc on the left flank; Valter superbly saves twice, but is beaten in extra time by a header from Shevchenko (0-1).
- 47’: midfield kick-off and just before the end of the half, Paulito dribbles past 2 players and unleashes a sublime long-range shot which… shatters the crossbar, oh no!!

- struggling whenever Milan put on the gas, Forbs decides to muscle the midfield with Kolo Touré replacing Paulito.
- 48’: Shevchenko towers again on a free-kick, Coutinho is beaten and the crossbar saves the day.
- 72’: Os Guerreiros push hard with Ednilson super busy in midfield, and following a deflection by sub Marajo, Pinto Neves clips the bar.
- 79’: Bruno Melo shows his world-class as his steal in his own area on Pinto Neves, is converted at the other end of the pitch by a victorious header from Van Nistelrooy (0-2). Check mate.
- although the game seems over, Setubal will push until the very end, actually creating several chances by Kaka or an unlucky Pinto Neves, but Gianluigi Buffon shows how great a keeper he is.

Although both teams were on par in number of shots and clear chances, Setubal clearly were one level below the mighty Milan in sheer class and talent. Meanwhile, Blackburn prevailed (1-0) over Sevilla –another bad news.

> Nov.26, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#12) – Maritimo v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2 / goals: Tosa, Marajo / MoM: Marajo
A tight game in Funchal but Vitoria do bounce back with 2 opportunistic goals in the 1st half, which seal victory.

RuiEsteves
10-09-15, 08:52 PM
The month starts with the news that skipper Ednilson has picked a 2-weeks injury, which means he will miss out on both the Benfica game and the Champions League away match in Sevilla. Although they had a slow start, Benfica are not to be under-estimated as they appear solid in their 4-4-2 set-up with key players in the right positions.

> Dec.3, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#13) – Vitoria Setubal v Benfica : 0-1 / MoM: Fernandes
It’s a difficult 1st half against well-organised Lisboans; Coutinho is visibly too young and fragile to hold the armband in the absence of Ednilson, and it is another young Portuguese star Pinto Neves who loses it and is expelled before half-time (3 games ban). Benfica push and create plenty of chances with Mantorras; Valter makes several saves while Fernandes fends off what he can in midfield. Alas Nilmar scores the only goal with a header at 81’; Olisadebe has a goal refused for offside at 85’, and misses the unmissable during extra-time.

It’s Vitoria first loss of the season in Bonfim and the end of an incredible series of 29 undefeated games in the Primeira Liga in 2010. Tito Forbs calls up both internationals Coutinho and Pinto Neves in his office the next day, and calmly but firmly explains to them that he will tolerate neither the poor performance of the former, nor the unprofessional behaviour of the latter, any longer. Both are warned and know the legendary coach means business, better get in the rank and work hard.

It is now time to bounce back with a critical away game in Sevilla, before playing 3 consecutive challenging Liga matches in December. Ednilson still injured, Forbs names 20yr-old Fernandes as captain… while Marajo is positioned as SC, which is yet another bet.

> Dec.8, 2010 / Champions League (Phase.2, #2) – Sevilla C.F. v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0
It’s a classic Champions League evening against a very good Sevilla, solid everywhere with players such as Lainez, Fabio Aurélio, Torrado or Xisco. Each side will have their own chances, both keepers being kept busy in particular Valter with a miracle save on 16’. Kaka towards the end of the 1st half, and Marajo on a free-kick in the 2nd, could have given Vitoria a lead but in the end the draw is a very logical outcome.

This one point away could be Setubal’s lifeline in the pool; next double encounter against Blackburn Rovers will be crucial especially since the English side have shocked Europe, prevailing (2-1) in San Siro!

No time to dwell on Europe, next up is a trip to Sporting CP who will be looking to turn the Liga on its head and re-open the wounds of the last encounter between both clubs (2009/10 CL semi-final…). It’s a key game between the arch-rivals of those recent years (both clubs have won 8 championship titles out of the last 9 seasons). Ednilson and Paulito injured, Pinto Neves suspended and Olisadebe out-of-form, Tito continues with his challenges and starts Academy striker Joséto as his lone striker at the Alvalde, while the young gun has only ever made… one appearance with the pros as a sub !!

> Dec.13, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#14) – Sporting CP v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Joséto / assist: Nélson Veiga / MoM: Joséto
The Alvalade huge roar is shut down as early as the 9’ when Tito’s crazy bet suddenly becomes the mark of a genius as 19yr-old rookie Joséto pounds a winning header past Petr Cech…! it’s a very tight and contested game after that, with Marius Niculae hitting the crossbar at 39’. But Os Guerreiros will hold on to their early lead and manage a crucial win.

A draw would have been more logical and Sporting players are devastated, as this victory for Setubal more than compensates for the home defeat vs Benfica. Of course the hero of the day is Joséto who was playing his 1st ever Primeira Liga game, one that him and the fans of both clubs are likely to remember for a long while…

> Dec.17, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#15) – Vitoria Setubal v Belenenses : 2-0 / goals: Joséto (2) / assists: Fernandes (2) / MoM: Joséto
Belenenses are a dangerous side with superb young playmaker Carlos Vidal; Vitoria struggle for this last game before the Christmas break, but are again saved by their young Academy players. Captain Fernandes has a superb game and delivers 2 assists for striker… Joséto, who again and twice, scores after his performance at the Alvalade. What a player this is!

The players can now enjoy a deserved week of vacation and Christmas with their family, knowing that they have built a comfortable lead in the Primeira Liga.


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RuiEsteves
10-09-15, 11:33 PM
One of Tito Forbs' objectives was to gradually integrate in the match sheets of Vitoria Setubal as many lads from the Academy which he set up in 2001, and also other Portuguese players who have joined the club at a young age. Let’s see how the plan is going so far.

Fernandes
Already close to a starting slot last season, it is now his year really. Less creative than Bruno Melo, he does remind of Ednilson with his constant activity and opportunities he creates around him. Was also given the armband occasionally. A key player already and a great first half of the season, rewarded by his 1st cap with the Seleção!
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Paulito
Still young and limited by his poor stamina and lack of physical strength, Paulito is nevertheless challenging for a starting slot already because of the creativity he brings as a playmaker. Shows moments of brilliance. If coached well, can become a jewel. A very promising first part of the season.
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Tosa
Paulito’s childhood friend from Pinhal Novo has continued to improve and is now challenging Marajo and Mendonça for the AMC position alongside Kaka. Can still improve but has shown he can both score and pass. Another great talent – too bad he can’t jump!
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Paulo Antunes
At 20yr-old only, has improved a lot lately to the point of being used more often. Tito now sees him as a real bench option in an already very crowded AMC position. Can still progress further, but already very promising!
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Joséto
Came out of nowhere from Tito’s hat and stunned the Primeira Liga at the Alvalde, followed by a double vs Belenenses. Can he carry on his form? Challenge for the SC starting slot? It’s almost too good to be true, but the kid really does have what it takes – and balls of steel!
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It is still a little too soon for other Academy players such as Armando Rosa, Claudio, João Duarte, Valter Alberto or André.

At least another young Portuguese player who joined Vitoria at 18yr-old this summer, should be mentioned as a complete success so far:

Valter
So young and yet Forbs did not hesitate to make him his starting keeper for the season. His first part has been superb so far, conceding only 7 goals in 22 games. Even Marco Tabuas is convinced by the kid and tries to teach him his goalkeeping science at training. Even the press have sung his praises.
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There are then of course Coutinho and Pinto Neves, but they already are stars in their own right as Portugal internationals.

kuy
11-09-15, 11:30 AM
Great to see the youngsters playing well, but unfortunately I don't think you'll progress any further in Europe :( That AC Milan team is insane!

troza
11-09-15, 02:09 PM
Great to read the continuation of this story :D

RuiEsteves
11-09-15, 08:39 PM
Cameroonian international Eric Matoukou was recruited by Tito in 2002 as a promising high-profile centre-back. He was only 19yr-old when he became a starter in 2002/03 for Os Guerreiros alongside Tonel; but his season was only half a success and was plagued by poor discipline (3 red-cards). He remained at the club for another 8 seasons but Tito never really considered him as a potential starter anymore. While he was shining with his national side (a CAN final in 2004, 3rd place in 2006), he gradually grew tired of being bench material. It was better for both parties that he left, and French club Le Havre AC seized the oppotunity for a reasonable £675k transfer-fee (he did cost £2m in 2002). With 87 appearances, 3 assists and 2 MoM, he won’t leave a major mark in the club’s History despite his 8 years on the banks of the Sado river. We wish him all the best in the French 1st Division.

Brazilian Josinho was a different matter altogether. The young Brazilian midfielder was recruited as a potential future star in 2006 at the age of 18yr-old, on a Bosman, under the recommandations of scout Pedro Figueiredo. Tito was skeptical, he gave his chance to the player and on his very first match he committed an act of violence on the pitch and was instantly red-carded. His attitude was unrepentant following the event, and he kept on complaining thereafter that he was being mis-used as DMC, wanting a more offensive role on the pitch. Forbs had long wanted to part with him and it was a relief to see him go for £150k to lower league side União Coimbra. A failed recruitement, wasted time and efforts on this player.

RuiEsteves
11-09-15, 08:44 PM
Tito feels there is a slight lack of depth in the defense; with Matoukou gone and what he heard from his scouts in Holland, he had to move in: for a £650k transfer-fee, Portuguese international José Maria Gama transfers to Portugal, effectively replacing Matoukou. Called by Tito during his spell at the Seleção, he is a very solid and still young CB. He will be on £2.1k/w wage. A great signing.


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There was another player who had been on Forbs’ radar for a while. He was only 19yr-old and it looked like FC Porto were hesitating to re-conduct his contract. Antonio Machado, nicknamed Fihado for his admiration of ex-Portugal idol Luis Figo (note: he is his regen), was all too happy to join the best club in the country which is also where big Luis ended his career in 2009. He will be on £600/w and got a £60k sign-on bonus, while he has already impressed the staff with outstanding skills. Another very gifted AMC in the squad!


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RuiEsteves
12-09-15, 08:19 AM
Marajo picks a 3-weeks injury as Vitoria start the year with a tough away game in Guimarães, who are currently 2nd of the table and playing very good football.

> Dec.31, 2010 / Pr.Liga (#16) – Vitoria Guimarães v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2 / goals: Touré, Paulito / assists: Fernandes, Bocas / MoM: Paulito
On this New Year’s Eve it’s a tight and breathtaking clash of the Vitorias that the spectators get to watch. Setubal strike first but the hosts equalize before half-time. It’s going towards a logical draw when at 85’, international keeper Nuno fumbles in the area and young Paulito is quick to push the ball into the nets. A lucky but important win!
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Forbs can relax ahead of Taça Round 5 against amateur side of Câmara de Lobos; he starts Gama, Claudio, Rosa, Fihado and Antunes.

> Jan.9, 2011 / Taça (Rnd.5) – Vitoria Setubal v Câmara de Lobos : 3-1 / goals: Joséto (3) / assists: Mendonça (2) / MoM: Joséto
Without being sublime, a young Vitoria side manage to qualify thanks to a hat-trick by rising star Joséto. All of Paulito, Armando Rosa and Mendonça played well.

> Jan.15, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#17) – Vitoria Setubal v SC Braga : 4-1 / goals: Fernandes, Ednilson (pen.), own goal, Joséto / assists: Paulito, Fernandes / MoM: Joséto
After 25’ the game is over: Vitoria leads (2-1) and Ricardo Neves, Braga’s keeper who used to be 3rd keeper for Setubal, has been red-carded for a foul in the area. Captain Ednilson and young Joséto are the best Guerreiros on the day.

> Jan.21, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#18) – Beira-Mar v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Paulito / assist: Marajo / MoM: Paulito
Os Guerreiros utterly dominate their hosts and should have won by a much bigger margin, Paulito, Ednilson and Marajo being the stand-out players.

Round 6 of the Taça is a tricky away game at Povoa do Varzim; Tito fields his best available XI.

> Jan.26, 2011 / Taça (Rnd.6) – Varzim v Vitoria Setubal : 1-3 / goals: Fernandes, Tosa, Kaka / assist: Joséto / MoM: Fernandes
Although Varzim do create several chances, Vitoria are superior and it’s only justice that they qualify. Fernandes shines in midfield while Joséto impresses again and is now really challenging for the starting striker position! There is however one bad news: Barros’ 3-weeks injury, a loss on the left flank.

> Jan.30, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#19) – Vitoria Setubal v Leixões : 0-1
A side that commits 11 men in defense, their keeper Pedro Vieira having a perfect day, a late goal on a counter-attack when Miguel Cunha jumps higher than Valter (one of the young keeper first mistakes of the season): the ultimate nightmare scenario for another home defeat, made even worse by the 2-weeks injury picked-up by Nélson Veiga.

Os Guerreiros played a very average game and got punished, their lead over Sporting CP now being reduced to 10-pts.

BobMem
12-09-15, 08:26 AM
Maria Gama looks fantastic, could be a defensive stalwart for years to come. Unlucky to lose that last game, but 10 points clear?! There's no real challenge domestically these days.

RuiEsteves
12-09-15, 12:26 PM
> Feb.7, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#20) – Santa Clara v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0 / MoM: Bosingwa
Setubal play a tight and unispired game in the Açores, forced to a draw despite the red-card given to Santa Clara’s CB at 80’.

The season is still far from over but it looks like it will be a 3-horses race, Setubal still having a nice cushion at the top over Sporting CP and a surprising Vitoria Guimarães.


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Vitoria get the lucky Taça ¼ finals draw with a home game vs lower league side AC Viseu. Tito rotates all his starters and fields a B-side in the Cup!

> Feb.9, 2011 / Taça (Quarter-Final) – Vitoria Setubal v AC Viseu : 2-0 / goals: Mendonça, Pinto Neves / assists: Claudio, Olembé / MoM: Mendonça
Os Guerreiros really are not that impressive against a tier-3 side, but Mendonça in particular does enough to see them through to the semis.

With the double-clash against Blackburn coming up in the CL, Forbs decides to rest Coutinho, Ednilson, Fernandes and Kaka for the home Liga game vs a struggling Campomaiorense…

> Feb.13, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#21) – Vitoria Setubal v Campomaiorense : 3-0 / goals: Tosa, Joséto (2) / assists: Lassissi, Bosingwa, Marajo / MoM: Joséto
Once more, not the best of games but the job is done thanks to a great Lassissi, an inspired Tosa and a very efficient Joséto who is yet again named MoM.

It’s now time for what many consider as Vitoria’s last hope in this CL’s group – the trip to Blackburn. The English champions are struggling in the Premier League this season (16th) but they feature a very solid squad with skilled players in all lines: Curtis, O’Brien, Rodriguez, Armstrong, Bent, Samba. Tito is able to field his best XI for the clash at Ewood Park.

> Feb.16, 2011 / Champions League (Phase.2, #3) – Blackburn Rovers v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0
It’s a great game of European football, both sides being of roughly the same level. But Blackburn play at home and look a little sharper; they are helped by Valter’s poor goal-kick at 21’, offering an easy goal for striker Cherno Samba. Os Guerreiros fight and do all they can, creating chances, but alas it is another devastating defeat in this pool.
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One point in 3 games, AC Milan having won in Sevilla thanks a goal by Bruno Melo… qualification now seems almost impossible. Nevertheless there is still hope and Forbs wants his best players for the return game in Bonfim; he thus rests most of his starters for the trip to Leiria.

> Feb.19, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#22) – Leiria v Vitoria Setubal : 1-5 / goals: Marajo (2), Bosingwa, Touré, Pinto Neves / assists: Joséto (2), Marajo, Mendonça / MoM: Marajo
During an hour Vitoria seem unstoppable, converting almost all their chances led by a sublime Marajo. What a spectacular away victory!


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If there is one slight chance, Os Guerreiros will give it all they can. Tito needs goals in Bonfim against the Premier League title holders; he fields Olembé while Lassissi replaces injured Bocas at CB, in-form Bosingwa playing central DMC. Tosa and Joséto continue to be trusted upfront.

> Feb.22, 2011 / Champions League (Phase.2, #4) – Vitoria Setubal v Blackburn Rovers : 3-1 / goals: Tosa, Joséto (2) / assists: Olembé (2) / MoM: Joséto
Bonfim is roaring behind their men as they get on the pitch to salvage some pride; the crowd are so proud during a marvelous first half, as local Academy guns Tosa and Joséto play superbly and score 2 goals past a helpless Danny Coyne. Young Graeme Armstrong will claw one back in the 2nd half but Joséto scores another personal double, his class now shining not only in Portugal but in Europe! Bosingwa collects a second YC and is expelled, the Brits push hard in the end but Vitoria have secured a deserved win!


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Finally Setubal have managed a win in this group; coach assistant Rui Lopes rushes to Tito, handing him his mobile phone. The old coach reads: “Sevilla stun AC Milan in San Siro (1-2) while Bruno Melo picks a 3-weeks injury”. It’s an incredible result really, and one that keeps Setubal alive. 2 wins in the last games, including the trip to San Siro, and the Portuguese are guaranteed to go through. Hope there still is, no matter how thin!


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There’s a whole week to heal slight injuries and get ready for what should be an easy Liga home game vs Espinho.

> Feb.28, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#23) – Vitoria Setubal v Espinho : 5-0 / goals: Fernandes, Tosa (2), Ednilson (pen), Joséto / assists: Ednilson, Coutinho, Joséto, Pinto Neves / MoM: Tosa
Poor Espinho are completed whalopped in Bonfim. They are already down (3-0) following goals by Fernandes and a double from an oustanding Tosa, when they get two players red-carded which offers an opportunity to Ednilson to convert a penalty-kick. Towards the end, true to himself Joséto adds a 5th goal, the young forward being almost on one goal per game on average!
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RuiEsteves
15-09-15, 08:16 PM
> Mar.3, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#24) – Farense v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2 / goals: Joséto, Marajo / assist: Ednilson / MoM: Barros
A difficult start with a goal conceded, followed by a stark domination from Vitoria. Marajo scores the winner from a long-range free-kick. Job is done.

Another victory in the Liga 4 days before the decisive trip to San Siro. Tito has a full squad fit and available for the game in Milan where they will face a fearsome wunder-team, current leader of the Calcio but who have astonishingly, lost both of their home games in this pool (1-2 vs Blackburn, 1-2 vs Sevilla). Ex-Guerreiro Bruno Melo will be watching from the stands, injured. Forbs knows that this will be a real test for some of his younger guns (although Paulito is benched), in a stadium which has historically been a cemetary for Setubal’s European ambitions, albeit against the other club of the Lombardia capital, Internazionale.

RuiEsteves
15-09-15, 08:26 PM
> Mar.9, 2011 / Champions League (Phase.2, #5) – AC Milan v Vitoria Setubal : 6-1 / goal: Pinto Neves


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Well, there are no words really. Every shot during the first half results in a goal for an incredible (5-0) hammering at half-time. Nightmare is not even enough to summarize those 45’. Shevchenko walks on water. Young Valter completely disintegrates between the sticks, young Joséto freezes like a junior player upfront, both subbed for the 2nd half. A complete debacle for Tito Forbs. Bruno Melo whose heart is still Sadino, leaves the stadium because he cannot sustain any longer. The chants from the Rossoneri fans start growing: “Setubalians are peasants”, “Portuguese footballers are sissies”, “Tito you old rag, you’re a fraud”, “we want to see Champions League football”…. and other classy stuff.
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This was obviously the worst defeat in 10 years of Tito Forbs at Setubal, and one of the worst in the club’s History. One that would mark an entire generation, a black mark on the coach’s career and a stain for Portugal, for Vitoria Setubal is and is likely to remain, the best club of the country. There had been the (4-0) hammering at the Camp Nou a few years back, but this was something else; and neither Forbs, nor his players, nor the fans, would ever forget the humiliating and degrading chants the San Siro threw at them, like aristocrats refusing that a minnow would ever belong to their elite club. Tito Forbs now had two ennemies in Europe, both from the same city: Inter and AC Milan.

Consequently, Os Guerreiros were now out of the Champions League without having seen the quarter-finals, for the first time in 5 years. Tito went to pick up his devastated players, one by one. Joséto seemed the most shaken, as a Setubalian he was particularly ashamed of what had happened. Like a father to his sons, he gathered them and put the entire blame on himself. His tactics were too bold, he refused to change as the boat was sinking in the first half, leaving them alone against the best attacking players of the planet, in a very hostile stadium and crowd which he also had under-estimated. They would build on that night. They would vow revenge, and grow stronger from the resentment of the 9th of March 2011 in Milan. He told them he was convinced they were an exceptional generation of players (Valter, Coutinho, Fernandes, Tosa, Joséto, Paulito and Pinto Neves were all part of this somehow) and that they would go on stunning Europe in a few years, that they needed to trust him and that domestic triumph awaited them later on this season.

But would the players believe the 71yr-old coach? Would they ever recover?

kuy
15-09-15, 10:48 PM
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen a 2 rating (unless I deliberately set out to lose)!

RuiEsteves
16-09-15, 12:11 AM
Neither had I prior to that game. It's my worst defeat ever whether in this version or in cm3 98-99.

BobMem
16-09-15, 11:15 AM
Ouch!

Although to be fair your keepers got a 6 rating...


... Between them :)

troza
16-09-15, 12:33 PM
Ouch... that really sucks :(

RuiEsteves
16-09-15, 09:15 PM
@BobMem: :-) / actually 5 between them, Valter was rated 2 in the first half and Tabuas rated 7 in the second...

@troza: yeah it's bad, but at least I can't complain the game is too easy! honestly that AC Milan line-up is scary, even in 2011.

RuiEsteves
16-09-15, 09:21 PM
Joséto is not in a mental state to play a game in Bonfim 3 days after this horror show, but Forbs tells Valter he will start. The crowd in the stands is massive and they applaud for a long, silent moment their Guerreiros as they enter the pitch to face Varzim, thereby showing that they also continue to trust them and will stand behind their colours no matter what.

> Mar.12, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#25) – Vitoria Setubal v Varzim : 5-0 / goals: Pinto Neves (2), Marajo, Mendonça (2, pen) / assists: Ednilson, Mendonça / MoM: Pinto Neves
As usual in such circumstances after a thumping, Setubal bounce back in style and demolish an unfortunate Varzim side. Barros, Paulito, Marajo and Mendonça all deliver; but the star of the day is Pinto Neves who no doubt has, between his 2nd half in Milan and today, stepped up one notch in the competition for starting striker.

The last Champions League game should have been crucial for the qualification, but is now solely relevant for the Spaniards who still have a chance to go through. Forbs will never insult this great competition and fields his best available XI to salvage some pride.

> Mar.15, 2011 / Champions League (Phase.2, #6) – Vitoria Setubal v Sevilla C.F. : 2-0 / goals: Kaka, Pinto Neves / assists: Fernandes, Barros / MoM: Kaka
It’s a tough and tight game, but led by both Bosingwa and Fernandes in the midfield, plus a decisive Kaka in front of the goals, Os Guerreiros show true spirit and manage a 2nd win in the group.

Setubal finish 3rd of the pool, ahead of Sevilla on head-to-head record. A closer look shows that qualification was not out of reach, a single goal in Blackburn (1-1, instead of 0-1) would have seen Os Guerreiros pull through. No regrets though, when one takes such a monumental hiding in San Siro there is not real point going further in the competition.


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> Mar.21, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#26) – FC Porto v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Fernandes / assist: Tosa / MoM: Coutinho
Porto are having one of their worst seasons ever and are no match for a dominant Vitoria who play well and prevail.

> Mar.26, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#27) – Vitoria Setubal v Maritimo : 2-2 / goals: Fernandes, Kaka / assist: Joséto / MoM: Fernandes
The next game is more difficult as Os Guerreiros don’t show up at the start and concede 2 goals in 20’ on their home turf, with again a poor performance from Valter. They will rally behind Ednilson in the 2nd half, and salvage a point thanks to a beautiful free-kick from Kaka.

The month ends with Mendonça's 3-weeks injury.

RuiEsteves
16-09-15, 10:22 PM
> Apr.3, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#28)
Chaves v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Joséto / assist: Tosa
A difficult game in northern Portugal against a resurrected Chaves who seem out of relegation trouble. Marco Tabuas replaces Valter in the goals and plays well; Os Guerreiros are fortunate to win thanks a goal from opportunistic Joséto.

Marajo twists an ankle and is out for a month, as Setubal prepare to host Salgueiros. Tito fields a B-side, resting his starters for the Taça semi-final 3 days later against Benfica.

> Apr.11, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#29)
Vitoria Setubal v Salgueiros : 2-0 / goals: Claudio, Oliveisa / assist: Paulito / MoM: Paulito
The reserves play well and deserve their victory, inspired in midfield by young Paulito. Ouedraogo’s red-card late in the game does not change the outcome.

Benfica may be struggling this season at mid-table, a Taça semi-final at Estadio da Luz is never a good draw all the more when one remembers that the Eagles have won in Bonfim (0-1) earlier this season. Tito fields his best available XI, trusting young Valter and Joséto once again…

> Apr.14, 2011 / Taça (Semi-Final)
Benfica v Vitoria Setubal : 2-1 / goal: Kaka / assist: Paulito
It’s a great, open and tight game of football. The hosts score after 12’ with Nilmar and they dominate; a little before half-time Os Guerreiros wake up, creating several chances. The 2nd half is very even-handed, but it is logical so see Kaka equalize from a header at 78’. Alas a minute later, Coutinho picks a 3-weeks injury and Forbs having made all 3 changes, Setubal are down to 10-men until the end. This will prove fatal as 2’ from full time, Boa Morte squeezes in Os Sadinos’ defense and slots the ball inside the post for the winner.

And Setubal are out of the Cup. For the first time in 6 years they won’t play the final in Jamor, while Benfica’s last Taça do Portugal final goes back to… 1997! The championship’s schedule sometimes work in mysterious ways, since only 3 days after the defeat in la Luz, Vitoria travel once again to Lisboa to face the same opponent… Gama, Paulito and Pinto Neves will start the match.

> Apr.17, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#30)
Benfica v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1 / goal: Kaka / MoM: Kaka
This time Os Guerreiros start well, putting lots of pressure and score first with Kaka on 14’. They have the game well under control until the 39’ when young keeper Valter brings down Nilmar in the area, is red-carded while the penalty is converted. Despite their efforts, the visitors won’t manage to score in the 2nd half while Bosingwa picks a 3-weeks injury.

It’s yet another blunder by a distabilized Valter who will be suspended for 3 games. There are only 4 matches left in the Liga and with a 9-pts lead over surprising Guimarães (while Sporting CP have collapsed), no one can imagine the title not remaining in Setubal.

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A win in the next Bonfim game against arch-rivals Sporting CP woud simply seal the trophy. What a way to end the season it would be!

> Apr.23, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#31)
Vitoria Setubal v Sporting CP : 1-1 / goal: Kaka / assist: Paulito
Vitoria blaze out of the dressing rooms and utterly dominate their prestigious opponent for an hour, until once again Kaka pounds a superb header into the nets on 63’. Alas the game is not over yet, and Brazilian Didi manages to equalize against the run of play, spoiling the party.

Guimarães having won, the lead is down to 7-pts with 3 games to go. The news suddenly break out, shaking the foundations of both of Setubal's main rivals those past few years: Sporting's coach João Alves, mortified by his team’s poor 3rd position, resigns. He is immediately replaced by FC Porto’s coach Nelo Vingada, which in turn prompts the northern club to re-instate José Mourinho as their head coach (he has just led Académica to a promotion from Segunda). This should considerably change both team’s tactics and probably squads for next season.

RuiEsteves
16-09-15, 11:11 PM
Os Guerreiros still need a win to be crowned and next up is the tricky trip to nearby Restelo, by the Tagus river.

> May.1, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#32)
Belenenses v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2 / goals: Paulito, Ednilson (pen) / assist: Nélson Veiga
It’s a poor start with Semedo scoring a superb goal after 12’ for the hosts. After that, the fans watch a one-way game with Setubal utterly dominating. Paulito equalizes just before half-time and the title is won with a … penalty, converted at 78’ by captain Ednilson. Setubal rule!

It’s done! Vitoria Setubal are crowned for the 6th time in their History Portuguese Champions. In this transition year, Tito Forbs has won his bet to inject new young Academy blood in the team while remaining on top of Portugal’s club football.

> May.8, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#33)
Vitoria Setubal v Vitoria Guimarães : 0-0
Os Guerreiros dominate the vice-champions but will never manage to get past keeper Nuno. It’s a draw.

> May.15, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#34)
Leixões v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1 / goal: Marajo / assist: Ednilson
Another game during which Vitoria are much superior, take the lead with Marajo but are forced to share points due to a late equalizer.

Baron Zbimg
17-09-15, 12:38 AM
The team slowed down at the end and some players like Valter even completely crashed down but this is still a successful season for your young team. Joseto doesn't look that good but delivers. Gama looks fantastic. I guess a star striker would still be nice to have :)

RuiEsteves
17-09-15, 07:15 AM
Yeah the last part of the year was difficult, but being crowned champions with 4 Academy players in the starting XI and an average age of 23.7yr is indeed a success. The jury is out on Valter who even lost his motivation and missed a training session (he was fined by Tito). Whether Joseto can realistically be a starter ahead of Pinto Neves is a question for next season!

RuiEsteves
17-09-15, 09:26 PM
80pts is the lowest total in the championship for Vitoria since the 2003/04 season, and one that might have not been sufficient for the title had one of two powerhouses - Sporting CP or FC Porto - performed at their traditional level. Instead, Sporting ended at a disappointing 3rd slot with a very low 61pts tally while FC Porto had one of their worst seasons ever, finishing 12th with a puny 38pts and having flirted with relegation during the final games. Os Guerreiros managed to be the best attack in spite of a modest 64 goals scored, and were of course the best defense with their best ever total equalled of 14 goals conceded. 2 defeats in 34 games is very few, but 8 draws is a little too many – the team clearly slowed down in the last 2 months with several average results following the Champions League dross in Milan.


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The surprise team were Vitoria Guimarães who impressed with 75pts and 2nd place, their best ever ranking in the championship! Promoted Leixões also far exceeded expectations with a 4th position and a European qualification. Benfica was once again very average with a mid-table final position (9th). Towards the bottom things were very tight, with Beira-Mar and Varzim returning in the Segunda while Leiria are relegated for the first time since 1998.

Académica (champions), Rio Ave (with ex-Guerreiro Taribo West) and Aves are promoted to the Primeira.

RuiEsteves
17-09-15, 09:30 PM
The title of Best Player of the Liga was a very close affair between Italian winger Franco Vendrame from Guimarães, and Setubal’s captain and legend Ednilson who, after winning the trophy last season, came 2nd for the second time in his career. He once again had an exceptional rating of 7.97.

Young Academy player and new Portugal international Fernandes made it to an incredible 8th position with a superb 7.69, while veteran Marajo although used more as a super-sub, still managed to secure the 9th spot with 7.67.


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RuiEsteves
22-09-15, 08:43 AM
In Tito's mind this was going to be a transition season during which Academy players would get more game time. Although the loss at the hands of AC Milan (1-6) in Phase 2 of the CL and the non participation to the Portuguese Taça final for the first time in 7 years had been disappoiting, the conquest of a 6th Primeira Liga title was in itself an achievement. Not only had the starting XI undergone 6 changes, but it featured an incredible number of 4 Academy players. While Fernandes' presence at DMC was anything but a surprise, the fact that young Paulito and Tosa started more often than players such as Bosingwa, Touré, Marajo or Mendonça was unexpected. But the biggest shock was to see unknown Joséto just nail the starting position ahead of international Pinto Neves!


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Nélson Veiga was a starter for the 10th consecutive season for Vitoria, Ednilson for the 8th. The latter had been named captain for the first time and was by far the best Guerreiro of the season, doing his utmost to compensate Bruno Melo's departure. Brazilian Humberto Barros settled well at DL while Kaka, part of the Liga Team of the Year once again, was an anchor in the attack. Finally and in spite of a very troubled end of season, young Valter showed promise between the sticks and even managed to be named GK in the Liga's Team of the Year!

Detailed player by player analysis will follow. A final word to say that Benfica's worst drought in History has come to an end as they went on to win the Taça do Portugal against Vitoria Guimarães in the final, 15 years after their last trophy.

RuiEsteves
22-09-15, 09:04 PM
- Valter (19) / 42 app – 24 conceded / 7.24. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year.
Until the dreadful 9th of March game in San Siro, the young keeper had been close to perfect which in the end earned him to be part of the Liga Team of the Year. However his season went pear-shaped thereafter, having an absolute shocker against Milan (rating 2!), being sent-off against Benfica in the Liga before failing to turn-up at training. Was handed-out a stern fine by Forbs and is now unhappy, the confidence seemingly broken between both men. Beyond repair?

- Marco Tabuas (34) / 11 app – 7 conceded / 7.00
The club legend has gracefully accepted to mentor young Valter, and stood for him when he imploded towards the end of the season. Happy to continue in the same role.

- Hugo Pinheiro (30) / unused. Once heralded as the next big Portuguese keeper, Pinheiro’s contract with Setubal has come to and and he will leave the club during the summer.

While he thought he had found a gem and a long-term solution, Tito is now once again scratching his head for the goalkeeping position. In any case, a 3rd keeper will be needed to replace Pinheiro. But can Valter be trusted again? Can young age and too much pressure explain his behavorial issues, or is there a deeper problem?

RuiEsteves
22-09-15, 09:22 PM
- Humberto Barros (25) / 31(9) app – 1 goa, 3 ass, 2 MoM / 7.28
The Brazilian fullback quickly integrated in the squad and took advantage of Olembé’s 3 month injury to show his skills as a starter. A rock in defense, all in all a great signing for Vitoria.

- Salomon Olembé (30) / 18(1) app – 5 ass / 6.89
Badly injured after a few games, struggled to come back and lost the starting slot to Barros. His crossings and corner-kicks remain an asset. Willing to fight for more game time next season.

- Rahim Ouedraogo (30) / 10(16) app – 1 goa / 6.65
Remains extremely useful coming from the bench both on the left and right sides, although he had slightly less impact than the previous seasons when he played.

Enough depth and skills at that position. Tito will need to decide whether he extends Olembé’s contract which runs until June 2012.

RuiEsteves
22-09-15, 09:31 PM
- Nélson Veiga (33) / 36(2) app – 1 goa, 2 ass, 1 MoM / 7.18
The great Guerreiro managed a 10th season as a starter for Setubal and was good, albeit a little less than usual. Continued to appear for the Seleção. Can he maintain the required level while he is in his 34th year?

- Saliou Lassissi (32) / 12(4) app – 1 ass / 7.19
Again a sub, either as DR or CB, the big Ivoirian was superb when he came on. Still he feels he’s done his time at the club and does not want to renew his contract. Will be a free agent this summer.

- Tiago Miguel (22) / 2(1) app / 6.33
Appeared very little, mostly in Cup games. Not lining up as a real option for the future, but adds depth for the years to come.

With Nélson Veiga getting on and Lassissi leaving, will the versatility as RB of Ouedraogo and Kolo Touré be enough depth for the position? Or should Tito look for a starter to gradually replace the legend Nélson Veiga?

RuiEsteves
22-09-15, 09:41 PM
- Coutinho (22) / 36 app – 1 ass, 3 MoM / 7.11
Another very solid season, although a few games in Europe were under his usual par. Cornerstone of the Seleção. Definite starter for the years to come!

- Bocas (30) / 44 app – 2 ass / 7.05
Rock solid and almost never injured, he starts for the 4th season with Os Guerreiros. At only 30yr-old, still has a few years at that level. Discussions to extend his now unprotected contract have started.

- José Maria Gama (25) / 9 app / 6.78
Played reasonably well when he started. A very decent back-up solution if anything was to happen to either Coutinho or Bocas.

With Lassissi leaving, Tito only has Barros and Touré as possible depth at CB beyond Gama. It clearly is not enough, a new recruit (preferably young and Portuguese) is required.

RuiEsteves
22-09-15, 09:52 PM
- EDNILSON (c) (28) / 42 app – 4 goa, 10 ass, 2 MoM / 7.88. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year. 2nd Best Player of the Liga. Fans Player of the Year.
Finally named captain, legend and Fans’ favourite Ednilson took the entire burden of the leadership on his shoulders following the departure of playmaker Bruno Melo, and never disappointed. Inspirational and creative, he almost won the Liga’s Best Player award again and was of course named in the Liga Team of the Year for the 7th season, an all-time record! Was however bitterly disappointed to be snubbed by the Seleção despite his great 2010 World Cup.

- Fernandes (21) / 37(1) app – 6 goa, 9 ass, 5 MoM / 7.61
A career turning-point for the Academy player. A starter for Vitoria, an outstanding season with a final 8th spot in the Liga Best Player classification, and his first ever international cap. While he does not posess the creativity of Bruno Melo, he reminds many fans of Ednilson and should have a long and great spell at Setubal, his home town!

- Paulito (19) / 28(8) app – 3 goa, 7 ass, 4 MoM / 7.50
What is there to say? He is only 19 and yet he managed to be a starter just nailing the spot overall ahead of Kolo Touré and Bosingwa. His stamina only allows him to play for an hour, but his creativity and passing are second to none in the squad. The Academy product is a gem that needs to be continuously polished. Still a huge margin or progression!

- Kolo Touré (30) / 26(13) app – 2 goa, 1 ass / 6.97
The Ivoirian rock was helped by Saliou Lassissi and had a smooth adaptation to Portuguese life. His versatility as DMC or RB is much appreciated by Tito, and he does bring some physical knout in midfield in the tight games. Should be able to do even better during his 2nd season and will try to challenge for a starting slot.

- Bosingwa (28) / 21(14) app – 1 goa, 2 ass, 1 MoM / 7.14
It’s never easy to lose a starting slot you had fought so hard to conquer, but Bosingwa enjoyed plenty of playtime and accepted the challenge graciously. Was utilized more in the tougher games towards the end of the season and never disappointed when he came on. Still an asset.

- Armando Rosa (22) / 2(8) app / 7.00
The Academy player has improved and is now a decent bench option for Os Guerreiros, albeit 6th in the DMC hierarchy.

- Claudio (21) / 3(1) app – 1 goa, 1 ass / 7.50
Again did well when was given a chance, great mental strength. To be monitored and may become a bench option soon.

- João Duarte (18) / unused. The youngster has not yet had a chance to appear, but still has time to progress through the ranks.

- Tiago Pereira (22) / unused. On loan to Rio Ave for 1(9) app, the Academy player does not fit in Tito’s plans and will be left as free agent this summer.

- Paulo Rocha (23) / unused. The U21 international never managed to convince the coach and leaves to Belenenses for a £28k transfer-fee.

There is just enough depth in the engine room, with a total of 5 out of 8 DMC players being Academy products. It would be great if Rosa and Claudio could step up a notch next year.

kuy
22-09-15, 10:16 PM
Try to bring in a new first-choice right back I reckon - that way they can have a season to adapt and settle in, then over the next year or two, when Veiga is 34 - 35, he can be phased out and the new signing can take over :ok:

troza
23-09-15, 08:39 AM
Wow... you might end up with 6 DMC from the academy in a few years! :)

RuiEsteves
23-09-15, 10:41 AM
@kuy: yep, that's exactly Tito's intention. All the better if we can find a defender who can also cover centre-back.

@troza: the Academy has blessed us with talents in midfield and upfront! However nothing in defense...

RuiEsteves
23-09-15, 08:03 PM
- Kaka (29) / 38 app – 17 goa, 1 ass, 4 MoM / 7.50. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year.
The Brazilian international was the anchor in attack, although he had a dip in performances during winter. Named for the 3rd consecutive year in the Liga Team of The Year. Continued to appear for Brazil also. A pilar of the team.

- Tosa (22) / 33(1) app – 8 goa, 5 ass, 1 MoM / 7.12
A dream come true for the Pinhal Novo kid who nailed a starting slot the same year as his best pal Paulito! Played well but still needs to deliver more in the future, here’s hoping he has another margin of progression before he matures. Good attacking flair.

- Marajo (30) / 15(10) app – 7 goa, 6 ass, 3 MoM / 7.52
Many at the club were upset that the Brazilian and Fan favourite Marajo, did not get to start more often ahead of young Tosa, for he has been once again excellent every time he appeared. This is a direct consequence of the policy instated by Forbs to promote Academy players and Marajo himself, forever faithful to Forbs, had no problem with that. Should continue to be a great bench option next season.

- Mendonça (28) / 6(6) app – 4 goa, 4 ass, 1 MoM / 7.50
It was a different story for Mendonça who despite playing very well, felt hard-done by to be 4th choice at AMC behind young Tosa and Marajo. He was only 28 and even before he went on to talk to Forbs, Sporting CP made an offer at £3m which sealed the deal. He would leave Vitoria !

It is never easy to part with a player as good as Angolan international Mendonça, especially when he will re-enforce a rival. But Tito is not one to retain an unhappy player and it was better for both parties to let go (albeit for a fat transfer-fee). Originally from Varzim, Mendonça played 5 seasons in Setubal. Never a starter, he nevertheless appeared in 106 games, scoring 23 goals for 14 assists and 7 MoM. He won a Championship title, a Cup and 2 Supercups during his tenure at the club and we all wish him… not to extend his trophy list while at Sporting CP!

- Oliveisa (22) / 3(7) app – 3 goa / 7.20
So little game time for the talented Brazilian U21 international… who has just acquired his Portuguese passport after 3 seasons in Europe! Huge potential, but is in competition with Academy players and other young Portuguese forwards.

- Paulo Antunes (20) / 4(3) app – 1 goa / 7.00
4 starts and his first goal for the still young Academy gun, and much improvement duly noted by the coaching staff. A very interesting prospect for the future and a decent bench option already. Became U21 international.

- Fihado (19) / 2 app / 7.00
Only 2 appearances for the young recruit who joined during the winter from FC Porto. Another option for Forbs with huge potential.

Even with Mendonça gone, Forbs has a pool of 6 players to tap into for his AMC slots, 4 of which young but all very good. No reason to add more depth, focus is on developping the existing base here.

kuy
23-09-15, 08:42 PM
Mendonca leaving will be good for the academy players, but it's a shame you couldn't get more than £3m for him - should be at least £10m for an attacking player in his prime, I'd say. And he went to a direct rival!

Surprised at Tosa starting ahead of Marajo, looking at those stats, but I guess bringing through the younger players is all part of Forbs's plan these days

RuiEsteves
23-09-15, 10:22 PM
Mendonca leaving will be good for the academy players, but it's a shame you couldn't get more than £3m for him - should be at least £10m for an attacking player in his prime, I'd say. And he went to a direct rival!

Well... I almost never get any bid for my players if they're not transfer-listed, so it's hard to tell. In 10 years there was only one transfer involving a Portuguese club which was above the £8.25m mark (when Sporting CP paid £15.75m to Juventus for David Trézéguet). Sporting offered £2.3m for Mendonça, Forbs raised to £3m. I doubt it would have gone much higher in any case for a player who was a sub at Setubal all those years.



Surprised at Tosa starting ahead of Marajo, looking at those stats, but I guess bringing through the younger players is all part of Forbs's plan these days

You're right, on pure merit Marajo would have deserved more starts than Tosa - several fans and even some in the coaching staff are silently upset about this policy...

RuiEsteves
23-09-15, 10:29 PM
- Joséto (19) / 21(2) app – 14 goa, 5 ass, 6 MoM / 7.52
A fairy tale for the young Academy gun whom no one expected to see starting so early! was given his chance in a crucial game at the Alvalade, and boy he took it, scoring the only goal and named MoM for an amazing debut in the Liga. Went on bagging goal after goal until the latter part of the season when he struggled a little – including a terrible performance in Milan. Can he reproduce such form and progress further next year? Became U21 international where he also starred.

- Pinto Neves (23) / 20(16) app – 12 goa, 1 ass, 3 MoM / 7.25
Tired after the World Cup, he had a slow start and struggled to keep pace with young Joséto when the latter exploded on the scene. Still managed a good season with 12 goals and plenty appearances, and was called back in the Seleção. Needs to fight for a starting slot harder than that, be it as striker or AMC!

- Emmanuel Olisadebe (32) / 11(9) app – 3 goa, 2 MoM / 7.35
After a great start of the season, the strong Nigerian lost steam and became 3rd choice behind Pinto Neves and Joséto, to the furore of many fans who adore him. Has kept many of his skills despite being now 32, but wants first team football and will therefore no extend his contract further. A legend is about to leave the club!

- André (21) / 0(1) app / 6.00
One appearance for the new Academy recruit. Already 21, needs to progress fast if he hopes to have a future at the club! Appeared for Portugal U21.

- Valter Alberto (19) / unused. Now a Portugal U21 international, the young Academy striker has improved. He needs to keep up the hard work and take exemple of his best buddy Joséto!

- Tiago Mota (30) / unused. Finally a free agent, the gifted forward will stop wasting his time at Setubal and joins Infesta for next season.

With Olisadebe going, André and Alberto may not be enough depth to cover the position; Tito however does have plenty of alternatives from the AMCs (Marajo, Tosa, Fihado). We should be fine.

troza
24-09-15, 12:12 PM
One game and Olisadebe is out? C'mon! I thought that Tito respected all the hard work done so far :P

Still... great season by Joséto!

RuiEsteves
24-09-15, 01:46 PM
Olisadebe had a spell of 7 or 8 games without scoring so it was fair to give Joseto a chance. He simply took it!

Playing with single striker is not easy, you cannot be complacent with anyone there, having an in-form scorer is pretty essential.

RuiEsteves
24-09-15, 09:23 PM
As announced striker Tiago Mota finally leaves Setubal, having wasted an entire decade of what Tito has always thought was a decent talent. He appeared 11 times as sub, his moment of glory being his winning goal in the 2005 final of the Club World Championship against Boca Juniors (2-1). He joins Segunda side Infesta where his skills may shine at last!

Academy player (promoted in 2006) Tiago Perreira is set free over the summer, having never appeared for the club, and joins lower league side Paços de Ferreira. He is the 3rd Academy product (after Paulo Luis and Sérgio Daniel) to depart from Vitoria.

A familiar figure to the fans is now also gone: 30yr-old keeper Hugo Pinheiro. He was one of Forbs’ first recruits in the summer of 2001, and managed to be a starter between the sticks once, in the season 2006/07, after which he went back to the bench behind local hero Marco Tabuas. He appeared in a total of 83 matches, and will be particularly remembered for his outstanding performance in the 2004 European Supercup final vs giants AS Roma (0-0, pen.) when he fended off all Italian attempts and stopped 3 penalties during the shoot-out session! He leaves Setubal with a fat trophy list: 4 Taças + 3 supertaças + European Supercup + Club World Championship, and will carry on at Segunda side Estrela Amadora. The entire staff sincerely wish him all the best.

But the biggest shock for the squad was to see a club legend waving goodbye to Bonfim: Emmanuel OLISADEBE. At first his decision was taken and he was not going to be 3rd choice one more season in Portugal; but during the summer, feeling in great shape and maybe under the pressure from the fans, he decided to negotiate with Forbs a 1-yr extension. Tito agreed in principle, but wanted to lower the big wage (£9k/w) of the Nigerian panzer; talks lasted and suddenly Valencia C.F. made their move: they wanted Oli, and would pay £65k/w in salary over one season!! Impossible to refuse such a deal when you are about to turn 33yr-old, and off he was to the “other” Liga.

Twice a starter during his 4 seasons at the club, Olisadebe terrorized Portuguese and European defenses while at Vitoria, scoring 75 goals (3rd best ever) in 141 matches, for 18 assists and a whopping 26 MoM (4th best ever). With an average rating of 8.07 during the 2007/08 season, he is 2nd best Guerreiro ever in the club’s HoF behind Pena, the Brazilian being the sole attacker with superior stats to the Polish bulldozer (Olisadebe has dual citizenship and plays for Poland). There are in particular 2 games that have stuck in the minds of all Sadinos fans: his incredible hat-trick at Eidnhoven stadium during the Champions League Group Phase in 2007, and his outstanding manita (5 goals) in a Liga game at Aves in 2009.

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He won 3 Portuguese titles + 2 Taças + 2 Supertaças for the club; his individual trophy list is even more impressive: twice 2nd Marcador of the Liga, once 2nd Best Player, once 2nd most MoM and finally named twice Guerreiro of the Year by the fans. A legend whom most fans won’t forget easily, some holding grudges against the coach and the board for not keeping him a little longer. All the best for one or maybe two, great seasons in Spain!

Finally we learn about the retirement of ex-Guerreiros Almani Moreira (33yr-old, who ended on a great spell with FC Barcelona) and Nigerian Taribo West (37yr-old, helped Rio Ave promoting to the Primeira Liga).

RuiEsteves
24-09-15, 11:31 PM
The first issue Tito had were the keepers. Forbs approached Portuguese international Nuno but Guimarães wanted close to £5m for the 30yr-old, and the price tag was in the same ballpark for Pedro Vieira Leixões’ goalkeeper. In the meantime Valter had cooled down; him and Forbs talked. The coach was ready to forgive although not forget, and reconduct the young U21 international between the sticks. Still a 3rd keeper was needed and none were coming through the Academy. With Beira-Mar relegated, Tito suggested a last challenge for an old friend – the man he had trusted during his tenure at the head of the Seleção, Quim. At soon 36yr-old, the veteran who had started in pro career with Braga in 1993, remained very skilled and experienced. He was only on £1.3k/w.
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Quim-24.08.11_zpsjajz58el.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Quim-24.08.11_zpsjajz58el.png.html)In defense, the coach eventually managed to convince Saliou Lassissi to continue one more year – a £50k sign-on bonus helped a little. Which meant the right side was not as depleted as expected, however the future had to be planned because Nélson Veiga was not eternal. Forbs had noticed a very young Campomaiorense right-back last season; for £130k transfer-fee and £625/w salary, Oscar Ferreira nicknamed “Ôscar” joined. He was already surprisingly skilled for such a young age.
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Oscar-11.09.11_zpsavcwb08e.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Oscar-11.09.11_zpsavcwb08e.png.html)A few years back, Tito had asked the managers of the Bonfim Academy to also tap into Africa’s youth and get a few students from there, where Vitoria traditionally had an extensive scouting network. Those efforts matured with 2 African Academy graduates this year.

The first profile was an odd one. Jean-Matthieu Ouattara, originally from Guinea, had abandoned his family religious roots and followed what his heart told him to, christening his first name to Jean-Matthieu. Under those circumstances, continuing to play football in his country of birth was an issue, and when Forbs, himself a devoted catholic, heard about the story he agreed to land a pro contract for this solid CB who had been nicknamed “Jean-Ma” by the rest of the Academy. Who knows, even though he was already 23yr-old, he may grow into the new Pape Diop for the club…
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Jean-Ma-07.08.11_zpslu3ljw9k.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Jean-Ma-07.08.11_zpslu3ljw9k.png.html)The other profile was from the DR Congo and was a little less tragic; in fact, “Rock” Mamale was a very outspoken young man with one passion in life: bang-in goals. He was a striker, and when the Academy suggested he may still be up to some good even if not so young anymore, Tito did not hesitate long and signed him up.
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Rock-08.08.11_zpsveaxthi2.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Rock-08.08.11_zpsveaxthi2.png.html)Finally later in the summer, the Academy presented two more promising porfiles – this time they were young Portuguese. Both were enrolled in the squad.

He may not end up being the messiah but Marcio Jesus surely had potential:
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Jesus-15.09.11_zpsvahuf4ic.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Jesus-15.09.11_zpsvahuf4ic.png.html)... while ex-Guerreiro Marco Ferreira nephew, Antonio Ferreira, was more of a wild shot but it did not cost much to give it a try.
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/AFerreira-16.09.11_zpsnlixleij.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/AFerreira-16.09.11_zpsnlixleij.png.html)
And that was more than enough for our summer recruitment!

RuiEsteves
24-09-15, 11:40 PM
Tito has trimmed down his squad to 35 professional players – in green are the Academy products, in brackets the number of seasons at the club.

Keepers (3): Marco Tabuas (15), Valter (1), Quim (0)

Defense (11): Nélson Veiga (11), Saliou Lassissi (9), Rahim Ouedraogo (7), Bocas (6), Salomon Olembé (5), Coutinho (4), Tiago Miguel (4), Humberto Barros (1), José Maria Gama (1), Ôscar (0), Jean-Ma (0)

Midfield (9): Ednilson (10), Bosingwa (9), Fernandes (6), Armando Rosa (6), Paulito (3), Claudio (3), Kolo Touré (1), Duarte João (1), Marcio Jesus (0)

Attack (12): Marajo (10), Kaka (5), Paulo Antunes (4), Tosa (3), Pinto Neves (3), Oliveisa (3), Joséto (2), Valter Alberto (2), Fihado (1), André (1), Rock (0), Ant. Ferreira (0)

15 Academy players were now part of the group, close to half of the squad! Forbs' policy was starting to bear its fruits.

troza
25-09-15, 09:21 AM
Let's see if Quim has at least one game for Setubal :P

RuiEsteves
25-09-15, 08:49 PM
Let's see if Quim has at least one game for Setubal :P
Not sure, but his experience may be useful in crucial games you never know! btw, how good was Quim in real life? any cap with Seleção?

RuiEsteves
25-09-15, 09:00 PM
Unfit following their 3-week long commando-style training, Os Guerreiros embark on a short tour of Wales which completes their friendly visits to the United Kingdom: Scotland 2004 (3W), Northern Ireland 2008 (1W, 1D), England 2009 (2W, 1D). Their first opponent Swansea, play in the English 3rd Division while their 2nd game will be against 1st Division side Cardiff.

> Aug.2, 2011 / Swansea City - V. Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Joséto / assist: Ednilson
> Aug.6, 2011 / Cardiff City - V. Setubal : 1-1 / goal: Fihado / assist: Marajo / MoM: Fihado

Despite the staff’s efforts and although the squad is injury-free, the players are not yet back to their full shape for the first game of the season: the Portuguese Supertaça! Os Guerreiros will be wanting revenge against a solid Benfica, holders of the Portuguese Cup and whom they have not beaten in 3 games now.

> Aug.3, 2011 / Supertaça
Vitoria Setubal v Benfica : 1-2 / goal: Olembé / MoM: Touré
Although Vitoria play a very good first half, scoring early by Olembé, they cannot prevent Benfica’s equalizer. A very active Kolo Touré powers a shot on the crossbar around half-time, but Benfica push in the last 15’ and it’s Mantorras that gives them the trophy with a header at 79’! Coutinho is sent-off following a 2nd YC during a tense extra-time period.

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Not the best start of the season, Tito hates losing trophies and this is the 3rd loss in the Supertaça in 7 participations. Next up is the opening of the Primeira Liga 2011/12, a home game against rivals FC Porto. Having put their 12th position in last year’s championship behind them, the Portistas are off to a new start with the return of prodigal son José Mourinho as head coach and an impressive list of signings: Brazilian internationals Alessandro, Pedro Neto and Moacir Ramos, Argentinian Federico Dominguez, Italian Matteo Bigon.

> Aug.20, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#1)
Vitoria Setubal v FC Porto : 1-0 / goal: Alessandro (o.g.) / MoM: Olembé
Setubal don’t play well at all and are lucky to get 3 pts following an own goal by Alessandro after 5’. Porto equalizes but the goal was off-side.

> Aug.27, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#2)
Aves v Vitoria Setubal : 1-4 / goals: Marajo (3), Pinto Neves / assists: Paulito, Pinto Neves, Ednilson / MoM: Marajo
It’s a much better Vitoria that demolish promoted Aves on their home turf, creating plenty of chances. Club legend Marajo has a phenomenal day and gets a hat-trick, while sub Pinto Neves brings a lot of punch when he comes in.

It seems that Os Guerreiros have bounced back from the Supertaça defeat and start well their season in the Liga with 2 wins.

A new feature in this story is the award of Player of the Month which is the result of a vote of the entire Vitoria coaching and scouting staff, Forbs excluded. With only 3 games played in August it was not so easy but the award goes to Brazilian veteran Marajo for his average rating of 8.00 and a wonderful hat-trick against Aves.

Baron Zbimg
25-09-15, 09:02 PM
Great write-ups. Kaka is a great goalscoring force but 1 assist in the season is an incredibly poor result. Is it a typo ? Looking forward to next season.


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RuiEsteves
25-09-15, 09:46 PM
Great write-ups. Kaka is a great goalscoring force but 1 assist in the season is an incredibly poor result. Is it a typo ? Looking forward to next season.
Thanks Baron Zbimg. It was not a typo for Kaka, he only had 1 assist indeed in the entire season which is very very low. I just checked and in 5 years with us, he has scored 80 goals for 25 assists. Generally speaking my three DMC's provide most of the assists (I always have one of them as playmaker) and both my AMC's typically score >10 goals a year; Kaka seem to push that trend to an extreme.

kuy
25-09-15, 10:16 PM
Nice to see an overview of the squad like that - how many of the attackers are out-and-out strikers, and how many play in attacking midfield?

Shame about the Supertaca but always difficult if your squad is unfit. Good win against Porto especially since you didn't play well, and nice to see Marajo bag a hat-trick!

What's your preferred line-up this season? Is Joseta still the striker or have you gone back to Pinto Neves? I assume Kaka is one of the AMs, but who's alongside him?

troza
26-09-15, 07:44 AM
I like the player of the month stuff.

And it seems that you're still better than the weaker teams of the league but you're not that much better than the rivals as you used to be. Those new guys must grow a bit faster!

RuiEsteves
27-09-15, 03:10 AM
Thanks kuy.



Nice to see an overview of the squad like that - how many of the attackers are out-and-out strikers, and how many play in attacking midfield?

It's quite a mix. Only two players - Paulo Antunes and Oliveisa - are AMC's only. Only two players - Joséto and Rock - are pure Strikers. All the others are AMC/F's, or just Forwards.



Shame about the Supertaca but always difficult if your squad is unfit. Good win against Porto especially since you didn't play well, and nice to see Marajo bag a hat-trick!

To be frank Benfica had played a friendly a few days before that Supercup so we were both on par in fitness terms (~85%). I was not too pleased with that result!



What's your preferred line-up this season? Is Joseta still the striker or have you gone back to Pinto Neves? I assume Kaka is one of the AMs, but who's alongside him?

Pinto Neves is on fire so yes he's basically our starting striker again, Joséto on the bench. Kaka usually always starts at AMC but it's very open for the 2nd AMC slot between Marajo, Tosa and Fihado. Oliveisa and Autunes are one step-behind, but not far.

RuiEsteves
27-09-15, 03:14 AM
Cheers troza.


I like the player of the month stuff.
And it seems that you're still better than the weaker teams of the league but you're not that much better than the rivals as you used to be. Those new guys must grow a bit faster!
It's a transition period so as evidenced in Europe, yeah we are not as strong as we were between 2005-2010 under Bruno Melo. At the same time this coincides with the decline of an ageing Sporting squad, the collapse of FC Porto and a still dangerous but not so good Benfica, so we were still champions last season and hot favourites for this one as well. But you're right, the ramp-up of the young guns must kick-off now.

RuiEsteves
27-09-15, 04:48 AM
It’s Champions League time again and I guess the Portuguese Champions draw a group which could be expected for a Phase 1: a competition’s outsider (Liverpool), a solid tier-2 side (Berlin) and a tier-3 team (Austria).

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Liverpool is an old acquaintance and twice before, Vitoria have prevailed against this legendary side, once already under Tito in 2005/06 CL Phase 1. Setubal’s overall record against English clubs remains positive (6-4):

- 1968/69 – Newcastle United (3-1, 1-5) - UEFA Cup - 1/4 final
- 1969/70 - Liverpool (1-0, 2-3) - UEFA Cup - Round 2
- 1970/71 - Leeds United (1-1, 1-2) - UEFA Cup - 1/4 final
- 1972/73 - Tottenham Hotspur (2-1, 0-1) - UEFA Cup - 1/4 final
- 1973/74 - Leeds United (3-1, 0-1) - UEFA Cup - Round 3
- 2003/04 - Leeds United (3-2, 1-0) - UEFA Cup - Round 4
- 2003/04 - Southampton (3-0, 3-0) - UEFA Cup - 1/2 final
- 2005/06 – Liverpool (3-0, 1-1) - Champions League – Phase 1
- 2009/10 – Manchester United (1-1, 2-0) - Champions League – Phase 1
- 2010/11 – Blackburn Rovers (0-1, 3-1) - Champions League – Phase 2

Vitoria have already encountered Herta BSC Berlin back in… 1969/1970 UEFA Cup and were eliminated; the record vs German clubs is now positive (4v3) and Os Guerreiros have always prevailed under Tito Forbs (actually 8 wins in 8 games!):

- 1967/68 – Bayern Munich (1-1, 2-6) - Cup Winners’ Cup - Round 2
- 1969/70 – Herta Berlin (1-1, 0-1) - UEFA Cup - Round 3
- 1973/74 – VfB Stuttgart (2-2, 0-1) - UEFA Cup – ¼ final
- 2008/09 – SV Wacker Burghausen (2-0, 3-0) - Champions League – Phase 2
- 2009/10 – VfB Stuttgart (1-0, 1-0) - Champions League – Phase 2
- 2009/10 – VfB Stuttgart (1-0, 1-0) – Champions League – Phase 2
- 2010/11 – 1.FC Nürnberg (2-0, 2-1) – Champions League – Phase 1

Finally it is the third time Forb’s Vitoria clash with Austrian clubs, and the second time against Austria Vienna, for a very positive outcome thus far (2v0):

- 2006/07 – Austria Vienna (3-0, 5-1) - UEFA Cup - Round 4
- 2006/07 – Rapid Vienna (5-0, 0-0) - UEFA Cup – ¼ final

RuiEsteves
27-09-15, 11:31 AM
The month starts with Euro qualifications and Portugal do very well and will travel to Denmark for Euro 2012. Coutinho, Fernandes and Nélson Veiga appear for the Seleção.

Before the start of the European campaign, Os Guerreiros have a difficult home game against the northern Vitoria, from Guimarães, who were magnificent vice-champions last season and have further strengthened their squad this year!

> Sep.10, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#3)
Vitoria Setubal v Vit. Guimarães : 1-1 / goal: Rock / assist: Ednilson / MoM: Bosingwa
Setubal struggle greatly against their well-organized opponents who score in the first half and, despite Bosingwa’s efforts in midfield, seem to have secured a spectacular victory. Tito tries one of his crazy bets in the last 10’ and brings in Rock for his very first professional appearance. On his first attempt, the Congolose controls and calmly scores the equalizer!

There is no time to dwell on this disappointing result as a great Liverpool team visit Bonfim for the opener of the European campaign. Their squad is full of great talent with the likes of keeper Chris Kirkland, Steven Gerrad, Matthew Taylor, Ashley Cole, Philippe Mexès, Scott Parker, Michael Owen and Robbie Keane.

> Sep.13, 2011 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#1)
Vitoria Setubal v Liverpool : 2-2 / goals: Kaka, Bosingwa / assists: Olembé, Touré / MoM: Bosingwa

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- The Bonfim crowd love those great European nights and they are just delighted to sea Os Guerreiros score on the 6’ with a header from Kaka on a corner-kick. (1-0).
- But the English immediately show how deadly a side they can be as Parker first on a long-range strike at 12’, and Owen on 16’ following a great cross from Taylor, switch the score around! (1-2). Valter and centre-backs Coutinho and Bocas have a lot to answer for on both goals…
- But Guerreiros are guerreiros and they immediately charge in attack. On 30’, Fernandes and Ednilson combine superbly but Kirkland saves the day. There is however nothing he can do when on 41’ a superb Bosingwa rushes past the defense and equalizes with a powerful kick under the crossbar. (2-2).
- What a game this is. Michael Owen’s injury on 35’ is not bad news for Vitoria since the great English striker has scored and looks dangerous every time he gets the ball.

- Besides a few runs from Harvey, the 2nd half is an entire Setubal affair from start to finish and it’s a miracle that Liverpool don’t concede any goal (and a great performance from Chris Kirkland).
- Kaka, Pinto Neves, Ednilson and Bosingwa all see their attempts parried around the hour mark.
- A limping Ednilson is subbed by Paulito on 67’, Fernandes taking the armband. A minute later he superbly sets Kaka in open space but the volley of the Brazilian forward is once again saved.
- Paulito first, then on 81’ Kaka twice, see their attempts either saved or just tipped by the great English keeper.
- It’s a disappointing result but nevertheless the fans applause for long minutes at the end of the game, for the spectacle has been amazing. At least Setubal have proven how superior they can be to Liverpool…
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> Sep.17, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#4)
Rio Ave v Vitoria Setubal : 0-5 / goals: Fernandes, Pinto Neves, Kaka (2), Fihado / assists: Barros, Fernandes, Pinto Neves, Touré, Joséto / MoM: Fernandes
It’s an attacking fireworks from Vitoria on the ground of promoted Aves; 5 goals and outstanding performances in particular from Fernandes, Kaka and Pinto Neves. What a win!

The trip to Berlin is already a crucial one which will dictate whether Phase 1 will once again be an easy ride for Setubal, or a more difficult affair. Forbs is confident since matches in Germany have traditionally been victorious.

> Sep.21, 2011 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#2)
Herta Berlin v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Pinto Neves, Fernandes / assist: Fernandes / MoM: Valter
The superior European experience of Setubal shows as they start well, dominate the first half and score by Pinto Neves on 36’. Alas just before half-time, Bocas is booked a second time and sent-off. The 2nd half is thus much more in favour of Berlin, but Valter has a great day while captain Fernandes secures the win with a late goal on 78’.

It’s a crucial win, all the more important since Liverpool have beaten Austria (2-0).

> Sep.25, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#5)
Vitoria Setubal v Salgueiros : 2-1 / goals: Pinto Neves (2) / assists: Bocas, Paulito / MoM: Pinto Neves
Another great game for Setubal who vastly dominate their hosts; all 3 goals are scored in 10’ during the 2nd half and the locals prevail thanks to a double from Pinto Neves and a rock-solid performance at CB by Bocas.

Setubal have a relatively easy game to play in Europe against the champions of Austria who field two stars: striker Maxim Tsigalko and veteran Juan Sebastian Veron (36yr-old).

> Sep.28, 2011 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#3)
Vitoria Setubal v Austria Vienna : 4-0 / goals: Kaka, Tosa, Joséto (2) / assists: Paulito, Nélson Veiga, Tosa / MoM: Joséto
In spite of Coutinho collecting on the 25’ his 2nd personal red-card of the season, Os Guerreiros power through their hosts in front of a record crowd and score 4 goals. Humberto Barros and José Maria Gama in defense, Joséto upfront, have a great evening. An easy win.

Liverpool having drawn at Anfield against Berlin (1-1), Setubal take the lead of the pool wit 7pts. It’s all looking good.

Player of the month: with 5 games played as a starter for: 8.20 avg / 4 goa, 1 ass, 2 MoM – Pinto Neves has really stepped up one notch and grabs this month award. He is back as the main contender for Striker starting slot, ahead of Joséto.
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RuiEsteves
27-09-15, 02:58 PM
> Oct.3, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#6)
Belenenses v Vitoria Setubal : 2-1 / goal: Pinto Neves / assist: Tosa
All goes perfectly well during that 1st haf with an early great goal by Pinto Neves and a stark domination by the Portuguese champions. Within 10’ around the hour mark, the game is turned on its head: a superb Carlos Vidal equalizes from a long shot on 57’; at 65’ captain Fernandes commits a major foul in the area, is red-carded and Belenenses convert the penalty. It’s Vitoria’s first (undeserved) defeat of the season in the Liga, and the 4th red card collected in only 10 games which is an atrocious record…

The Portuguese FA gather to review all disciplinary cases from the week-end and the verdict is handed-out: Fernandes will serve an 8-games suspension for his red card at the Restelo. That’s outrageous decision, Forbs is incensed!

> Oct.15, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#7)
Vitoria Setubal v SC Braga : 4-0 / goals: Marajo, Joséto (3) / assists: Paulito, Olembé / MoM: Joséto
Poor Braga are demolished in a frantic first half during which home town boys Paulito and Joséto (with a great hat-trick, his second for the club) draw cheers from the crowd. Marajo also has a very good game.

> Oct.18, 2011 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#4)
Austria Vienna v Vitoria Setubal : 2-3 / goals: Kaka, Ednilson, Pinto Neves / assists: Ednilson, Gama, Nélson Veiga / MoM: Ednilson
On a roll, Os Guerreiros play once again a very offensive and convincing game despite conceding twice; they utterly dominate under the leadership of a superb Ednilson, and secure a key away win.

With Liverpool having lost (1-3) in Berlin, Vitoria only need a point in the remaining two games to go through. Time to re-focus on the Primeira Liga and finally beat Benfica who are now 4 games undefeated against Setubal.

> Oct.23, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#8)
Benfica v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Pinto Neves
Truly on fire, Setubal humiliate the Lisboans in their legendary stadium, leaving them only one shot at goal and prevailing thanks to a goal by, of course, Pinto Neves.

A very important victory in the title challenge this season. Next up is a trip to one of the most mythical stadiums in Europe – Anfield Road. Can Os Guerreiros get a win there and write a little further their own legend?

> Oct.26, 2011 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#5)
Liverpool v Vitoria Setubal : 1-3 / goals: Marajo, Pinto Neves (2) / assists: Nélson Veiga, Bosingwa / MoM: Pinto Neves
When the Portuguese champions play so good, there is not much even Liverpool can do and Anfield watch in awe as the visitors pound 3 goals into Kirkland’s nets, two of which by Pinto Neves who stuns Europe and is now probably on the scouting list of many of the continent’s biggest clubs.


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What a great and completely deserved performance, which secures the Group’s top slot for Vitoria. CL Phase 1 after all, was once again relatively easy.

> Oct.30, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#9)
Vitoria Setubal v Leixões : 1-0 / goal: Pinto Neves / assist: Nélson Veiga / MoM: Paulito
Although the midfield is depleted with the absences of Ednilson and Touré (injury) and Fernandes (suspension), Os Guerreiros control the game thanks to Paulito and score the only goal from Pinto Neves who just cannot stop finding the nets.

It is once again no surprise that for the 2nd month in a row, Player of the month award goes to Pinto Neves who played 5 games for: 8.20 avg / 6 goa, 1 MoM – scoring in each of his appearances, including a decisive winner at Estadio da Luz and a superb double at Anfield Road which has increased his interntional fame!

Baron Zbimg
27-09-15, 04:17 PM
Neves with an incredible run. Your young team is growing, the rest of Europe should worry ...


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RuiEsteves
27-09-15, 05:49 PM
Neves with an incredible run. Your young team is growing, the rest of Europe should worry ...

Yes. When strikers start to click like this, it's quite impressive; Pinto Neves is in one of those rare moments. As for Europe, we also had a very convincing Phase 1 last year before being booted covered in shame in Phase 2. So let's wait and see what comes next ;-)

RuiEsteves
28-09-15, 08:12 PM
> Nov.5, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#10)
Santa Clara v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Barros, Pinto Neves / assists: Pinto Neves, Marajo / MoM: Pinto Neves
Winning so convincingly in the Açores is never a given; led by Marajo and once again a superb Pinto Neves, Vitoria continue to impress.

After 10 games in the Primeira Liga, Setubal are already in the lead but their usual rivals Sporting CP and FC Porto are only 4pts behind.


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Although already qualified as 1st of the Group, Tito insists on fielding close to what would be his best XI to host current Bundesliga leaders in Bonfim.

> Nov.8, 2011 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#6)
Vitoria Setubal v Herta Berlin : 0-0
Berlin only need a point to qualify and will remain in defense all night long. Setubal attack, dominate and create plenty of chances but never manage to find keeper Heidenreich’s nets.

Vitoria finish undefeated and with a healthy gap over Herta Berlin in 2nd. Liverpool are out and it’s a surprise.


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Besides Liverpool, there are few other big names who did not make it to Phase 2: AS Roma, Sevilla C.F., PSV, FC Nürnberg (UEFA Cup holders) or Bordeaux. Sporting CP did qualify as 2nd of their pool, while Vitoria Guimarães finished 3rd and will continue in UEFA Cup. The draw for the next phase is always going to be torrid, but once again Tito feels Setubal is particularly hard-done by with German giants FC Bayern, Serie A leaders SSC Napoli and old acquaintances from Turkey, Galatasaray.


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Before going into those big European battles is a much easier game against Marco in Rnd.4 of the Taça do Portugal. Forbs fields a reserve team out of which 8 starters are from Bonfim Academy! It is also the very first game under these colours for Jean-Ma and Ôscar.

> Nov.13, 2011 / Taça do Portugal (Rnd.4)
Marco v Vitoria Setubal : 0-4 / goals: Tosa (2), Joséto (2) / assists: Rosa, Joséto, M.Tabuas, Tosa / MoM: Joséto
It is such a huge pride for the fans to see their team play so well while 8/11 of its players were born and bread their football in the city of Setubal. In particular, Tosa and Joséto have a field day and a lot of fun. Claudio’s red-card well into the 2nd half does not even manage to spoil the party.

Time to get ready for what may be the most winnable away game of the group in Istanbul, against a Galatasaray side whom Vitoria have already met twice in the recent past, for 2 draws in Ali Semi Yen. The record against Turkish clubs is however spotless (4v0):

- 2002/03 – Besiktas JK (2-0, 1-1) - UEFA Cup - Round 2
- 2003/04 – Samsunspor (2-1, 0-0) - UEFA Cup - Round 3
- 2003/04 – Galatasaray SK (1-1, 4-1) - UEFA Cup – ¼ final
- 2007/08 – Galatasaray SK (1-1, 2-1) – Champions League – Phase 1

> Nov.22, 2011 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#1)
Galatasaray SK v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Fernandes / assist: Marajo


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Once again in this impressive stadium, Os Guerreiros feel at home, start well and dominate through and through. Marajo shines and manages to deflect for Fernandes who scores the sole goal of the night, a crucial one. It’s an impressive and solid peformance by litterally all the players on the pitch.http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Gala-VS-22.11.11_2_zpsngpsqfwx.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Gala-VS-22.11.11_2_zpsngpsqfwx.png.html)
Münich start equally well and prevail at home (2-0) against Napoli. But that away victory for Setubal may prove extremely valuable later on…

> Nov.26, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#11)
Campomaiorense v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2 / goals: Kaka, Marajo / assist: Ednilson
Campomaiorense were the sole unbeaten side in the Primeira Liga, it’s over now given how well Setubal have played and dominated their hosts of the day – they even had 2 goals disallowed early on for off-side.

Only 5 games this month including a Cup 4th Rnd in which the reserves had a go; the Player of the month award goes for the 2nd time this season to Brazilian Marajo for: 8.25 avg / 1 goa, 2 ass – and a great game for the 30-yr old in Instanbul where his efforts enabled the sole goal of the match.
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kuy
29-09-15, 01:02 AM
Going well in Europe, but that's a horrible Phase 2 group!

I like the Player Of The Month bits too :ok:

troza
29-09-15, 02:26 PM
Good start in the 2nd phase group. If you win your home games, you'll be ok now. :D

Baron Zbimg
29-09-15, 05:34 PM
Very tough group indeed. It will be key to beat Napoli and Bayern at home.


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RuiEsteves
29-09-15, 08:06 PM
@kuy, troza, Baron Zbimg: cheers lads. I did not like the look of that group neither, and being now further in the game I like it even less!

RuiEsteves
29-09-15, 08:21 PM
Académica are struggling in the relegation zone; Forbs rests many of his starters ahead of the big game vs Bayern.

> Dec.4, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#12)
Vitoria Setubal v Académica : 1-1 / goal: Joséto / assist: Olembé / MoM: Olembé
As is often the case when a lot of rotations are involved, teams get caught short. Coimbra score first and Vitoria have 2 goals disallowed for offside. Olembé manages to set-up Joséto for the equalizer but in spite of their efforts, Os Guerreiros lose 2pts at home against a weak side.

Bayern München are one of the few great sides in Europe which Tito Forbs has not yet encountered; the Bavarians had however hammered Setubal 2-6 in the return leg of the 1967/68 Cup Winners’ Cup, a routing the older fan still remember. Vitoria's record against German clubs is good at (5v3). Yet, this Bayern side fields several outstanding players of the game such as Samuel Kuffour, Michael Ballack, Sebastian Deisler, Roque Santa Cruz and Claudio Pizarro. Young keeper Valter has had 2consecutive poor games and once again his confidence is low; with Marco Tabuas injured, Tito decides to field for the very first time 36yr-old international Quim for this crucial encounter… has his lost his mind, are wondering the press?....

> Dec.7, 2011 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#2)
Vitoria Setubal v FC Bayern München : 0-1 / MoM: Quim
The first half-hour is tight both teams being cautious not to expose themselves; but the end of the first half is Guerreiro as a superb triangle combination between Fernandes, Kaka and Pinto Neves ends up parried by keeper Jens Fiedler. At the start of the 2nd half an on-fire Pinto Neves manages to escape the entire defense but is once again denied a goal by the German goalkeeper. It’s a keeper’s game since a few minutes later, Quim saves the day when he parries a close-range shot by Pizarro. But the game is probably decided when on 67’, Marajo collects in a very stupid way a 2nd YC and is sent-off, leaving Setubal with 10 men. Bayern push and dominate but it seems Vitoria are going to salvage the draw when on 87’, Quim having parried again a header from Pizarro, Deisler is quicker on the rebound and scores a crucial and killer goal… oh no, what a disaster, Bonfim is as silent as a tumb.


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Oh this results really hurts and more than negates the great win in Istanbul. Meanwhile Napoli prevail (3-0) in San Paulo over Galatasaray which means that the head-to-head games vs the current serie A leaders will make it or break it for Vitoria.

> Dec.12, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#13)
Chaves v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Paulito / assist: Ednilson / MoM: Ednilson
Os Guerreiros are visibly having a bit of a down-turn and really struggle in Chaves. Kaka scores but the goal is disallowed and it takes a superb Ednilson to set-up Paulito for the sole goal of the match. Veteran Quim is simply great between the sticks and preserves the 3pts.

> Dec.18, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#14)
Vitoria Setubal v Espinho : 2-0 / goals: Ednilson, Kaka / assist: Oliveisa / MoM: Kaka
Espinho park the bus in Bonfim and the match is a one-way street; Vitoria dominate but struggle to find the nets. However the overall collective performance is good.

> Dec.21, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#15)
Vitoria Setubal v Farense : 1-0 / goal: Barros / assist: Ednilson / MoM: Ednilson
Again a narrow win thanks to a superb header by Humberto Barros on a corner-kick, but the content was very good and a win is a win, making it 3 in a row in the league for Vitoria.

Setubal lead the race after 15 games and just before the short Christmas break, but their biggest rivals seem to have bounced back from poor form last year and are close enough.


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Tito is completely satisfied with his squad depth so there will be neither recruit nor departure this winter mercato. The group is fully fit, injury and suspension free, for the New Year’s Eve trip to the island of Madeira.

> Dec.31, 2011 / Pr.Liga (#16)
Maritimo v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Pinto Neves / assist: Fihado / MoM: Pinto Neves
Os Guerreiros don’t leave much room for an upset; they control the game and take the score early on with Pinto Neves, securing 3 importants points. The only bad news of the night is Kaka’s 3-weeks injury.

The Player of the month award goes to Setubal’s skipper who has played all of the 6 games in December - Ednilson for: 8.00 avg / 1 goa, 2 ass, 2 MoM. He has really rallied the troops in a moment of downturn which is excatly what is expected of him as a team leader.
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troza
30-09-15, 08:51 AM
Napoli plays in San Siro?

I just hope that the loss against Bayern is the loss against the club that wins every game. That way, you'll be cool with that.

RuiEsteves
30-09-15, 09:54 AM
Sorry that was a typo, Napoli play in San Paolo. The defeat vs Bayern in Bonfim is really difficult to swallow as it does not reflect how the game went. It's Marajo's red-card which gave them an edge in the end.

troza
30-09-15, 01:42 PM
It happens.

But, at least, you are in a transitional season waiting for the new starts to mature. So... just keep rolling in the domestic league and cup and hope for the best in the champion's league. On the other hand, the 2 games vs Napoli... if Bayern wins the 2 games vs them, you might be good with 2 draws... but if you win at home and draw in the away game you'll be fine :P

RuiEsteves
30-09-15, 02:23 PM
But, at least, you are in a transitional season waiting for the new starts to mature. So... just keep rolling in the domestic league and cup and hope for the best in the champion's league. On the other hand, the 2 games vs Napoli... if Bayern wins the 2 games vs them, you might be good with 2 draws... but if you win at home and draw in the away game you'll be fine :P
Further update coming, I've already played the double-encounter vs Napoli... it turns out that the win in Istanbul was even more crucial than I had thought originally.

RuiEsteves
30-09-15, 02:32 PM
Spanish international star Vicente joins the Primeira Liga as Sporting CP crack £9.25m to Valencia to sign him. Both Sporting and Porto have made several excellent recruitments lately and are mounting a very serious title challenge throughout the second part of this season.

> Jan.8, 2012 / Taça do Portugal (Rnd.5)
Vitoria Setubal v Espinho : 2-1 / goals: Paulito, Pinto Neves / assists: Ednilson, Tosa / MoM: Pinto Neves
Although the last half-hour is a bit difficult, Os Guerreiros control and dominate the game with inspiring performances in particular from Paulito and Pinto Neves. They are through to the next round.

> Jan.15, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#17)
Vitoria Setubal v Aves : 2-0 / goals: Paulito, Fihado / assists: Tosa, Ednilson / MoM: Ednilson
Although the score is unspectacular against a weak Aves side, it’s another comfortable home win thanks to a spiritied performance from skipper Ednilson.

Marajo picks a one-month injury just before the difficult trip to Guimarães.

> Jan.20, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#18)
Vit. Guimarães v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1 / goal: Touré / assist: Pinto Neves
Although they concede early on from Claudio Oeiras (10’), Setubal play a very good game dominating their hosts and creating many chances. Unfortunately, keeper Pedro Vieira is in a great day and they lose 2pts on the night.

> Jan.25, 2012 / Taça do Portugal (Rnd.6)
Infesta v Vitoria Setubal : 1-4 / goals: Joséto (3), Antunes / assist: Paulito / MoM: Joséto
Current 2nd of the Setunda Liga, Infesta are blown apart by an inspired Vitoria who score 4 goals including another hat-trick by wonderkid Joséto!

Unfortunately just before a very busy schedule ahead for the club, Setubal has to wave goodbye to 4 members of its squad who will play the CAN for 4 to 6 weeks : Kolo Touré and Saliou Lassissi (Ivory Coast), Salomon Olembé (Cameroon), Rock (DR Congo). Sporting CP travel to Bonfim with a frightening squad (Petr Cech, Satmar, Kim Källström, Ricardo Quaresma, Samuele Dalla Bona, Vicente, Marius Niculae and Denilson!) and the intention to get back in the title race against their arch-rivals.

> Jan.29, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#19)
Vitoria Setubal v Sporting CP : 0-1 / MoM: Fernandes
It’s a great game of football played on a high tempo; Os Guerreiros dominate and manage to control the midfield thanks in particular to Fernandes, but they fail to get past a very good Petr Cech. Swedish Källström is a pain in the 2nd half, stealing posession and it only takes one through ball for new recruit Vicente to beat Valter one on one. Vitoria concede a harsh defeat at home which rocks the Portuguese championship.


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This is very, very unfortunate. Sporting CP have just narrowed the gap to 5pts while FC Porto are only 2pts behind Setubal and the next trip in the Liga will be… at the Dragão!

Player of the month: although Pinto Neves got a higher avg. of 8.25 over 4 games (but scoring only once), for the second time in a row the award goes to Ednilson who has played all 5 games in January for: 8.00 avg / 2 ass, 1 MoM. He continues to drive the entire team forward through the winter period.

RuiEsteves
30-09-15, 03:59 PM
In Champions Cup Group stage, if two teams finish with the same number of points, what matters between them? head-to-head results or global goal average? if three teams finish with the same number of points, is it decided on head-to-head games between those 3 teams and the classification between them three?

troza
30-09-15, 04:07 PM
Further update coming, I've already played the double-encounter vs Napoli... it turns out that the win in Istanbul was even more crucial than I had thought originally.

Spoiler alert!

And about the CL question... I don't know... Or do I brick hard or do I go to the next phase in style... :P But I think that direct confrontation is something to look for.

Baron Zbimg
30-09-15, 06:36 PM
When it's two teams it's head to head record. When it's 3 teams I've never been able to figure it out as it sometimes doesn't seem to make sense.


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RuiEsteves
30-09-15, 10:39 PM
@troza, Baron: thanks for the inputs gents.

RuiEsteves
01-10-15, 09:09 AM
It’s a terribly busy month of February ahead of Vitoria with no less than 7 matches to be played, including a key game in Porto, the back-to-back Champions League clash vs Napoli and a Taça do Portugal quarter-final. All this without the 4 players involed at CAN and a couple of minor injuries picked up by Tosa, Marajo and Bocas. Moreover, Kaka is in one of his traditional downturns and needs to improve his mental state before he can start a game.

> Feb.5, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#20)
FC Porto v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Pinto Neves, Joséto / MoM: Pinto Neves
Setubal show who the boss is in Portugal, stunning the Dragão with an early goal (3’) from a once again superb Pinto Neves, while Joséto who came on for injured Fihado (out 1-month unfortunately) proves one more time that his balls are made of steel. One could say FC porto are even lucky to be only 2 goals down at half-time thanks to their keeper Fabio. Vitoria defend well in the 2nd half with a great performance by Coutinho. It’s a great victory!


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What a superb reaction by the squad here. Tito did not blame the players for the home defeat vs Sporting CP, knowing they played well and were just unfortunate on the night. He was right, as this victory sets the record straight and gives some breathing space back to Vitoria at the top of the table.


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Os Guerreiros land a fortunate draw in the Taça quarter-finals with a game in Bonfim vs Segunda mid-table outfit Estrela Amadora whom they have always beaten in 9 games under Forbs. The coach decides to rest all his usual starters bar Bosingwa and Paulito.

> Feb.8, 2012 / Taça do Portugal (quarter-final)
Vitoria Setubal v Estrela Amadora : 1-1 (e.t.) / goal: Joséto / assist: Oliveisa
The reserves do struggle in the first half and concede a goal on a corner-kick. The second half is just a giant siege warfare on Amadora’s goals but their young keeper Loureiro (nb: he’s Vitor Baia’s regen) parries everything except an equalizer by Joséto. Setubal salvage the draw but will have the additional burden of a replay!

Another unfortunate result at home and although they did try hard, Tito lashes out at the players who played the game for not being able to overpower a Segunda Liga side. He also writes down in his pad the name of this young keeper: Rui Loureiro. The replay will be on Feb 29th, the 8th game of the month which is borderline insane…

> Feb.10, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#21)
Vitoria Setubal v Rio Ave : 2-1 / goals: Ednilson, Kaka / assists: Bosingwa, Ednilson / MoM: Ednilson
It’s a tight score against a weak side but Os Guerreiros actually play well, bossing the midfield with great Bosingwa and Fernandes, and a truly outstanding Ednilson.

It is now time for the bak-to-back clash against an old foe, a club whom Vitoria did meet in Jamor in the 2006/07 UEFA Cup Final for a loss after extra-time (1-2): Napoli SSC. They had a superb team of mixed Italian/Argentinian internationals and although the players are now different and younger, they still originate from both these great footballing nations. Moreover Napoli are current Serie A leaders, and Seria A is THE European championship whose clubs Vitoria has most struggled against under Tito’s tenure, the overall club’s record remaining positive at (10-8). Last game in Italy was a little less than a year ago in San Siro, and it was the club’s worst routing in years (1-6). Young keeper Valter still has nightmares about it, so he is particularly nervous before entering the pitch of San Paolo tonight…

> Feb.15, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#3)
Napoli v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0
The game wcould barely start in a worst way when after 6’ on the left flank, Humberto Barros collides with team-mate Tosa and both players have to leave the pitch injured! Ouedraogo and Oliveisa replace them. Nevertheless Os Guerreiros don’t shy away and keep posession, while in a typical catenaccio fashion, Napoli create many fouls to disrupt the play. On 21’ captain Ednilson delivers a sublime pass in the area for Pinto Neves who strikes and… hits the post, oh no! a little later Oliveisa fires a superb volley but the great keeper Lucchetti saves. It’s been a Setubal first half, the southern Italians managing only one shot at goal, off target. The second half is a much tighter affair, except the last 10’ which are a real intense trench war mostly in front of Valter’s goals. Although Pinto Neves could have scored on a counter-attack, Forbs shakes until the end with Valter saving in over-time a great volley from Zaccardo. It’s a draw, but what a battle this has been…

It could have gone either way but Tito is satisfied with the draw. Nevertheless, beating this Napoli side in Bonfim will be a very difficult achievement… in the meantime, and no one knows exactly how this happened so big was German domination, Galatasaray have managed to draw (2-2) at the Olympiastadion. The return leg vs the Italians is in a week, and between the efforts of the game they just played, the injuries plaguing the squad and the African players missing, Tito has no choice but to field a reserve side to travel to an always dangerous Salgueiros. Valter, who has shown how much mature he has become, is named captain for the first time.

> Feb.18, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#22)
Salgueiros v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0
The young Guerreiros, skipped by a very good Valter do what they can and battle until the end; but Greek forward Lambros Chonos gets a great goal and in the end Vitoria concede defeat.

It’s unfortunate since Tito knows he cannot afford to lose points in the domestic league; yet he had no choice and has no regrets. With Porto’s defeat in Guiamarães and Sporting having drawn vs Belenenses, the damage is limited. Now has come the time for the big decider against Napoli; the coach will have to do without Touré (CAN), Barros, Fihado and Tosa (injured).

> Feb.21, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#4)
Vitoria Setubal v Napoli : 1-0 / goal: Kaka / MoM: Ednilson
Both teams are very nervous and once again it’s a defensive Napoli that start the game. Valter is however forced to a great save on a header by Salomon on 8’, and after 26’ and an intense domination in the midfield by Vitoria, it’s panick in Lucchetti’s area and Kaka scores an opportunistic GOOOOOOOOOOL! (1-0). There will be few, but very clear chances in the 2nd half: Pinto Neves’ header is saved on 48’, and again the forward sees his attempt parried by the Napoli keeper on 78’. But Valter is kept very busy as well with a superb save on 73’, and a great resistance in the final minutes when Napoli litterally lay siege of his goals. Setubal win it! Coutinho has stepped up and played a superb game in defense, but the man getting all the credit and the applause of Bonfim is once again Ednilson who has simply been outstanding.
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> Feb.27, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#23)
Vitoria Setubal v Belenenses : 3-0 / goals: Kaka (2), Pinto Neves / assists: Olembé, Marajo / MoM: Kaka
Bursting with confidence, Vitoria play a superb game and dominate a dangerous Lisboa side. Bosingwa shuts off playmaker Carlos Vidal and Pinto Neves finds his way back to the nets; but the stars of the day are young Paulito and a back-to-form Kaka with a double from splendid headers.

Two days later is the Cup quarter-final replay in Lisboa, against Segunda’s side Estrela Amadora. Rotation is mandatory, but Forbs sends a mixed team captained by Valter since he really wants to qualify for the semis. For Amadora, ex-Vitoria keeper Hugo Pinheiro will want to shine while 2 other players born and bread in Setubal (before Forbs's era) will be involved: Frechaut and Rui Gomes.

> Feb.29, 2012 / Taça do Portugal (quarter-final, replay)
Estrela Amadora v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Joséto (2) / assists: Oliveisa, Antunes / MoM: Joséto
This time there are no surprises as Os Guerreiros play a very solid game and leave no chance to the outsiders, Joséto getting a goal in each half. Setubal are in the Taça’s semis for the 8th consecutive year.

It’s been a difficult month which has really strecthed the squad, but the players responded superbly well, getting a key away win in Porto, 4pts against Napoli in the CL and securing a Taça do Portugal semi-final. Vitoria are still leaders in the Primeira Liga but Sporting CP, only 4pts behind, are likely to be a serious challenge until the very end.

Player of the month: once again and for the 3rd month in a row, the award goes without a doubt to Setubal’s captain Ednilson who was involved in 5 games in February for: 8.80 avg / 1 goa, 1 ass, 2 MoM. He was in particular outstanding during the CL return leg in Bonfim v Napoli, where he obtained a perfect rating of 10.

troza
01-10-15, 01:53 PM
Great results in the champion's league for you!

It doesn't matter if Bayern did win or not... Galatasaray now believe they can make it, Napoli has the same chance they would have but Bayern now has to play at full force in their field... so, not a big loss... you need to win at home vs Galatasaray or you don't deserve to go through.

And everything is going well at home... that's good :)

RuiEsteves
01-10-15, 05:56 PM
It's great to have taken 4pts vs Napoli but Bayern's defeat in Istanbul means it's all very open and anything could happen. Even beating the Turks in Bonfim may not be enough...

Sporting will be a pain at home until the very end, they have found their form back. We need not drop easy points at the same time turnover is mandatory when playing the Champions League.

RuiEsteves
01-10-15, 11:04 PM
> Mar.3, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#24)
SC Braga v Vitoria Setubal : 1-4 / goals: Bosingwa (2), Pinto Neves (2) / assists: Pinto Neves, Kaka, Bosingwa / MoM: Pinto Neves
Braga seem to be heading straight back to Segunda as they implode at home and this in spite of being at 11 v 10 since the 36’ with Touré having picked a 2nd YC! Gama proves very solid at CB and Bosingwa is happy to bang 2 goals, but it is Pinto Neves who gets all the praise as he delivers yet again a superb performance.

Right. Galatasaray, at home. A must win. Tito has always done well again Turkish sides, and twice the Istanbul club has fallen in Bonfim in the past. It’s a full squad and there is no reason not to do it again.

> Mar.7, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#5)
Vitoria Setubal v Galatasaray : 2-0 / goals: Kaka, Pinto Neves / assists: Olembé, Kaka / MoM: Kaka
Os Guerreiros are focused, start well and on 36’ Olembé crosses perfectly for a superb goal by Kaka. The Brazilian forward has a fantastic day and drives the entire team forward, setting up nicely Pinto Neves for the second goal on 75’. The Turks create several chances and show how dangerous a side they can be, but Valter parries everything. Setubal win again!

It’s a superb result, but are Vitoria qualified? With FC Bayern having narrowly lost (0-1) in Napoli, standings now are: Vitoria-10 , Bayern-7 , Napoli-7 , Galatasaray-4. If Setubal lose in Munich and the Italians win in Istanbul, all three teams could end up on par with 10pts and who knows what will happen then!... there are only 3 days to prepare Benfica’s visit in Bonfim and Tito needs to rest several starters; Valter, Bosingwa and Ednilson lead a team of reserves into this major clash.

> Mar.10, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#25)
Vitoria Setubal v Benfica : 2-1 / goals: Joséto, Tosa / assist: João
Until the last 10’ during which Benfica are dangerous and claw one goal back, the young Guerreiros play a superb controlled game, scoring twice. Jean-Ma, Rosa, Tosa, Joséto and João were all good and it’s another great experience for them. A very satisfying victory while the team was heavily rotated.

Those 3 pts are much welcome right in the middle of March and before having to focus on the most difficult trip to Bayern with the intent of salvaging at least one point to be certain to qualify…

> Mar.13, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#6)
FC Bayern München v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2 / goals: Kaka, Olembé / assist: Pinto Neves
The Bavarian crowd is ready and roars when they see Bayern’s line-up: 4 forwards in a very offensive spirit tonight. But that is extremely dangerous against Os Guerreiros who have a solid defense and 3 very strong DMC’s – and indeed, the Portuguese steal all posession. Bayern’s keeper Jens Fiedler is forced to 4 great saves in the first half while München are completely shut down. What a superb game by Vitoria, impressive, it’s only a matter of time now and sure enough, a superb Kaka and then Cameroonian wing-back Olembé find the nets after the hour mark! The great Bayern are humiliated; they salvage some pride dominating the last 15’ and claw one back in over-time in spite of a superb Valter. Setubal have made quite an impression and get one of their most prestigious wins in Europe!


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Oh this one will go down in History, both in terms of result and in terms of content. Napoli having drawn in Istanbul, the stunning away win by Setubal means that FC Bayern are out!! What a performance, Vitoria qualify to the Champions League quarter-finals for the 5th time in their History, topping their difficult Phase 2 group. Yes!!


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> Mar.18, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#26)
Leixões v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1 / goal: Olembé / assist: Kaka
Was it complacency following the celebrations in the Champions League? Vitoria score early on, control the game, get lazy and concede a goal on the 90’ losing 2 precious points very stupidly...

Sporting CP draw (2-2) at Estadio da Luz so the gap remains at 4pts, nevertheless the old venerable coach is wary of any complacency and he hates that. Rahim Ouedraogo is unlucky that morning after the game as he turns up late… he gets fined 2 weeks salary on the spot, that will teach him!

> Mar.28, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#27)
Vitoria Setubal v Santa Clara : 1-1 / goal: Tosa / assist: Fernandes
And they do it again, this time at home… after scoring first and controlling a defensive Santa Clara, Os Guerreiros concede a soft goal in the 2nd half and are forced to a second consecutive draw.

This is getting bad. 4 points lost in 2 games against mid-level teams which are far inferior to a full strength Setubal side. This time, Sporting win and are closing in while FC Porto is also not entirely out of the race. What a poor finish to an otherwise great month.


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Player of the month: for the first time this season the award goes to Brazilian star forward Kaka who has stepped up one notch in the big games, getting : 8.40 avg / 2 goa, 3 ass, 1 MoM. He scored and was Setubal’s best player in both key European matches against Galatasaray and Bayern.
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RuiEsteves
02-10-15, 08:29 AM
Vitoria Setubal have played 4 Champions League quarter-finals in their History, qualifying twice for the semis :
- 2006 : Inter Milan (0-3, 0-1)
- 2008 : Juventus (2-0, 1-1)
- 2009 : Inter Milan (0-0, 0-1)
- 2010 : Feyenoord (4-1, 2-1)

The 8 teams that qualified in this year's edition are the following :

- Group winners:
- Vitoria Setubal
- FC Barcelona (CL 2010 winners)
- AC Milan (CL 2007 winners)
- Borussia Dortmund (CL 2011 winners)

- Group runners-up:
- Napoli SSC
- Lokomotiv Moscow
- Celtic Glasgow
- Sporting CP

Which means that Vitoria will clash with either Celtic, Sporting or Lokomotiv... there is one draw which obviously seems preferable.

In other news, Vitoria Guimarães are doing Portugal proud: after going out of Champions League Phase 1, they have now reached UEFA Cup semi-finals!

troza
02-10-15, 09:01 AM
Well, great result for you!

:)

And you will have the easiest or the second easiest quarter-final ever... I'm just amazed that you got 3 italian teams in 4 times.


And this will be your year!! :)

kuy
02-10-15, 01:21 PM
Doing brilliantly in Europe, hope you can keep it up! Shame about the dropped points in the league but I think you'll be ok - surely there won't be another month quite as crowded as that?

RuiEsteves
02-10-15, 08:58 PM
@troza: considering that Celtic and Sporting are the teams who have eliminated us on both occasions when we reached the CL semi-finals, I would not be so sure that clashing with either of them would be any easier than Inter or Juve... Lokomotiv on the other hand, woud be very sweet.

@kuy: I am extremely worried domestically. Dropping points at the end of March against Leixões and Santa Clara, while the calendar was fine at that point and thus fielding more or less the best XI, is not acceptable. Sporting CP are coming back on us like a freight train and I have already dropped more points in the Liga than during any season since 2004/05. It does not bode well. However you are right, we have been brilliant in Europe especially against Bayern. Go figure.

RuiEsteves
05-10-15, 08:34 AM
And the Champions League quarter-finals draw gives us... Sporting CP! Both Portuguese arch-rivals who are toe-to-toe in the Primeira Liga, will play a remake of the dramatic 2010 Champions League semi-final (1-0, 1-3) which saw the Lisboan side overturn in a dramatic fashion the encounter in the last 15' at the Alvalade. This time again, the first game will be played in Bonfim.


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troza
06-10-15, 11:30 AM
Don't you dare to loose against them. You're the best team in Portugal so no excuse for those games... Your players must know that.

RuiEsteves
06-10-15, 09:40 PM
Once again Tito needs to manage his squad the best he can with a trip to Farense 3 days before the first leg of the Champions League clash against Sporting CP. He knows that his arch-rivals have had the same dilemna as they travelled to Chaves, but they at least won (2-3) and have momentarily taken the lead. Coutinho, Bocas, Fernandes, Kaka and Pinto Neves are all rested.

> Apr.1, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#28)
Farense v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0
They might be lingering at 14th in the table, Farense are a good and well organized side and this was always going to be a tight battle. Although there should have been a penalty on Joséto after 50’, ex-Setubal striker Maki stuns the champions with a winning header on 58’ and Vitoria will not manage to equalize It’s a crushing defeat.

All was so well… and now it’s going pear shape with a 3rd Liga game in a row which Vitoria fail to win; and now the 4th defeat of the season and the first defeat in 20 games vs Farense under Tito Forbs! Setubal are trailing one point behind Sporting CP for the first time this year, and the European encounter with the Lisboan side will take unprecedented hights in Bonfim in this all-Portuguese clash!! it was only 2 years ago but everyone still remembers in Portugal the dramatic Champions League semi-final during which Sporting banged in 3 goals in the last 15’ of the return leg at the Alvalade. They are back with a super squad and the firm intention to take back their Primeira Liga crown and eliminate Os Guerreiros in Europe. They will however be without Satmar and Ricardo Quaresma injured, while Kim Källström is not entirely fit and Vicente not eligible to play. Tito has neither injury no suspension on his side. While panick could have stricken his camp, he re-assures them that they have everything to overcome their foes and prevail, provided they trust themselves and play to their usual strengths.

> Apr.4, 2012 / Champions League, Quarter-Final (leg.1)
Vitoria Setubal v Sporting CP : 1-0 / goal: Kaka / assist: Pinto Neves / MoM: Pinto Neves
It’s a tense, tight battle during the first half. Sporting are defensive but dangerous around ex-Setubal player Mendonça, while both Valter and Cech are in great form and save several chances. Os Guerreiros will dominate the second half but it seems it’s going to the draw; Tito urges the boys to send it all in attack during the last 15’ and Bonfim pushes… until during over-time, a superb Pinto Neves deflects for Kaka who scores from close-range, giving the win to Vitoria in the dying seconds!!! Yes!
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/VS-Sport-04.04.12_zpseaeulqes.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/VS-Sport-04.04.12_zpseaeulqes.png.html)Just like 2 years ago, Vitoria win (1-0) the first leg except this time it was from a goal at the very last minute during a much more balanced game. Will this be enough for the return at the Alvalde?

The Taça do Portugal semi-final draw could hardly be easier with a home game vs Segunda Liga side Esposende. Tito fields a mixed team skipped by keeper Marco Tabuas.

> Apr.11, 2012 / Taça do Portugal (semi-final)
Vitoria Setubal v Esposende : 1-0 / goal: Joséto / MoM: Joséto
It’s a solid but not very flamboyant game by Setubal reserves who wait until the 75’ to score the only goal of the day from a scavenging Joséto. Vitoria are in the Final!

This is at least one competition getting closer to success and the final will be played against Salgueiros. There is now a critical away game in the Liga at Espinho; although the Champions League return quarter-final is only 4 days away, Tito fields a very strong side.

> Apr.14, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#29)
Espinho v Vitoria Setubal : 2-3 / goals: Pinto Neves, Kaka, Joséto / assists: Fihado, Rosa, Ouedraogo
During an hour Os Guerreiros play really nice, offensive fotball and score twice with a great game from Fihado. But as Forbs makes a few changes, Espinho suddenly get back in the game and score back-to-back goals on 73’ and 88’… it’s going to be another heartbraking draw when in the dying seconds, Joséto again squizzes in the area and slots the ball underneath the keeper for a deserved but hard-fought victory!

Well that was extremely close but it sorts of keeps Setubal alive in the championship. In reality, all minds including Tito’s were already at the Alvalade where a huge battle awaits Os Sadinos who are set to take their revenge over the 2010 debacle in that same stadium!

> Apr.18, 2012 / Champions League, Quarter-Final (leg.2)
Sporting CP v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Tosa / assist: Touré
It is Sporting who rush out all in attack and yet, like in Munich a few weeks ago, Vitoria look so strong and take immediate control of the game. At 14’ Petr Cech saves twice in front of Pinto Neves, and on 22’ Tosa finds the post after which Kaka is inches from scoring on the rebound, oh what a wasted opportunity… Os Guerreiros continue to push and finally on the 40’ following an amazing run and cross by Kolo Touré, young Tosa easily converts! GOOOOOOOOOOL! (0-1). Just like 2 years ago, Vitoria are up (2-0) on aggregate at half-time and the Lisboans, pushed by their entire stadium, continue to storm in attack for the second half. Only this time, Tito’s boys will hold the fort bravely, Valter being forced to 2 great saves in order to preserve a great away win and a deserved qualification!


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Revenge has been taken and Setubal come out victorious without any shadow of a doubt of this inter-Portuguese clash. For the 3rd time in their History, Os Guerreiros are in the Champions League semi-finals; and they will be in formidable company…


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In the UEFA Cup Vitoria Guimarães are simply astonishing, they overcome Groningen in the semis and will play the Final game against Inter Milan!

It has been an exhausting month and season so far, and that combined with the international call-ups in the end of April slowly take their toll on Setubal’s squad. Paulito (3-weeks), Pinto Neves (3-weeks), Bosingwa (2-weeks) and Nélson Veiga (3-weeks) are all out injured and this is a huge blow to the squad before an absolutely mental agenda in the coming weeks with basically… a game every other day!!


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As can be seen in the above schedule, the CL semi-final will be played against current title owners BVB Dortmund. Whether it is the German giants, FC Barcelona or AC Milan, in any case the mountain to climb is very steep for a depleted Vitoria but deep down Forbs can’t help but think that he has never been eliminated by a German club so far – overall record being positive at (6v3).

A mixed team is sent to Coimbra for a crucial Liga game; several of Vitoria’s domestic fixtures have been re-scheduled which means Setubal are now behind Sporting CP and FC Porto in the table, albeit with a few spare games.

> Apr.29, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#30)
Académica v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1 / goal: Bocas
Setubal do not shy away and will attack and utterly dominate the entire game, creating 20 shots 12 of which on target! Alas keeper Delgado is in an incredible day and parries all shots but a goal from Bocas at 81’ following a conrner-kick, which means that, following Coimbra’s goal in the first half, Vitoria drop 2 crucial points in a game they should have won by a large margin…

It’s a terribly cruel result. There are still 4 games in the championship to play so theoretically everything remains possible, but Forbs at that point does not believe the title can be salvaged anymore.

Player of the month: with 2 superb performances in the Champions League quarter-finals (5 saves in total, no goal conceded), young keeper Valter takes the award, based on : 7.75 avg / 2 conceded over 4 games. At 20yr-old he has really stepped-up in the big occasions and put the end of last season firmly behind him.

kuy
06-10-15, 11:13 PM
Wow, the end of the season is going to be crazy! You could end up with three trophies or none at all! I think the reserves are going to have to play a lot of games, hopefully they can step up and get the job done

troza
07-10-15, 09:05 AM
Good for the champion's league result... how many points are you behind Porto and Sporting (and games)?

RuiEsteves
07-10-15, 09:12 AM
@kuy: I've never faced such a ridiculous schedule. There are 4 key players injured so yes, the young Academy reserves will have to step-up domestically. It's exciting.

@troza: well I had no choice in the CL, you said I had to beat Sporting.

Sporting have 72pts and 2 games in hand.
Porto have 70pts and one game in hand.
We have 66pts and four games in hand.

Final game of the season is Sporting v Setubal.

troza
07-10-15, 02:11 PM
Well... Porto has almost no chance... they only have one game missing and they can only get to 73 points.

You will have the second leg of the champion's league followed by a league game on a friday and sporting on the sunday. Right? That will be hard but you can do it.

Let's just hope that you can do the same as sporting until the last game. All you have to do is win against them... :P

RuiEsteves
07-10-15, 08:59 PM
You will have the second leg of the champion's league followed by a league game on a friday and sporting on the sunday. Right? That will be hard but you can do it.

Yes that is exactly it, and the plan will be to field a complete reserve side on that Fiday game at home vs Campomaiorense. But before that, I have two other home games to play (Chaves and Maritimo), sandwiched between both Champions League semi-final legs.



Let's just hope that you can do the same as sporting until the last game. All you have to do is win against them... :P

You are quite right... provided I score enough points in those 3 home Liga games before the final trip to the Alvalade! it will also depend on the other game Sporting have to play (they receive UEFA Cup finalists Guimarães).

RuiEsteves
07-10-15, 09:06 PM
Ruhr giants Borussia Dortmund are current Champions League title holders following their magnificient 2010/11 campaign. Although they have been slightly less destructive this season, they easily overcame Celtic in the quarters and are not short of world-class players in their ranks: keeper Hector Carini, Manuel Friedrich, Lars Ricken, playmaker Tomas Rosicky, Brazilian duo Ewerthon and Emerson, Morten Skoubo, Diego Placente… they will be helped by a human sea of 100,000 fans at the mythical Westfalen stadium, definitely one of the most impressive in Europe.

But Vitoria are ready. Pinto Neves upfront and Bosingwa in midfield will be thoroughly missed, but Tito is able to field a very strong and fit XI for the big battle.

> May.2, 2012 / Champions League, Semi-Final (leg.1)
Borussia Dortmund v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Joséto, Ednilson (pen.) / assist: Kaka / MoM: Fernandes


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Even in a Hollywood scenario it could have hardly been better. Os Guerreiros, true to their reputation, put huge pressure on the German giants early on and the pressure pays off when Carini and his central defenders cough up posession after 13’ only for Joséto, a true scavenging striker, to head the ball into the nets. Panick strikes the heart of the champions and on 18’ Turkish midfielder Erhan is red-carded for a stupid two-footed challenge on Tosa. Yes!!! Here Forbs hesitates and Setubal kind of freeze: all out attack to kill them, or be cautious and protect the one-goal advantage?? For a long period of time, with a superb Fernandes in midfield, Vitoria chose the second option and prevent Borussia from getting back in the match (they will only manage one shot at goal the entire game!). But Forbs, realizing how weakened the hosts are, urges the lads towards offense in the last 15’ and they are rewarded… in the dying seconds with a penalty-kick, converted by Ednilson who shows huge composure here. Simply a perfect day for a perfect result. Incredible.
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/BVB-VS-stats_zpsfim7xf5q.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/BVB-VS-stats_zpsfim7xf5q.png.html)Germany and Europe are stunned. In the other semi-final, Barça have demolished AC Milan (4-0) at the Camp Nou. Both the Catalans and Setubal have made a huge step towards the final!

RuiEsteves
07-10-15, 09:14 PM
Setubal are now lagging behind both Sporting CP and FC Porto in the Liga, but have two home games in hand. The issue is, both are sandwiched in the week between both CL semi-final legs. Rotation is mandatory and Lassissi, Gama, Rosa and Oliveisa start the first game.

> May.4, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#31)
Vitoria Setubal v Chaves : 1-1 / goal: Fihado / assist: Gama / MoM: Barros
It’s a difficult game for a tired Setubal team, but still they dominate and Fihado manages to score right before half-time. Chaves look hardly dangerous and Os Guerreiros control the second half… but in the very last second of the game, within Bonfim as silent as a cemetary, Chaves’ sub striker Armando manages a shot from an angle which Valter cannot even touch… it’s a goal, (1-1), oh no what a disaster!!

Surely the title is gone now. After the cruel draw in Coimbra, now this at the last second. Forbs for one minute is devastated, until his faithful assistant Rui Lopes comes up to him and whispers: “boss, Sporting have just lost at home to Guimarães (0-1). There is still hope”. And indeed there is, Setubal are still third but if they manage to beat Maritimo next, then they are back in control of their destiny. The game is 3 days before what is maybe the most important match in the History of the club, vs Dortmund at home. What to do? At this stage it is just impossible to throw away the Champions League. Forbs will field a reserve side against Funchal – Ouedraogo, Jean-Ma, Claudio, João and Antunes all start the game / Rosa and Rock will come in as subs.

> May.6, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#32)
Vitoria Setubal v Maritimo : 1-0 / goal: Antunes / MoM: Bocas
It’s a tougher match than the previous two draws vs Chaves and Académica, for sure. Maritimo play well the entire game, and it takes a superb Bocas and a great Valter with several key saves in the end, to preserve a clean sheet. The sole Setubal goal comes from… a free-kick beautifully converted by Academy midfielder Paulo Antunes, who gets his moment of glory as those 2 additional points he managed from his boot, are worth gold.

Well it has been extremely tight but the young Academy guns have made it! FC Porto cannot win the title anymore and Setubal have their destiny back in their hands. In any case, the winner of the last game at the Alvalade will take it all.


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BobMem
07-10-15, 09:54 PM
Win your game in hand, draw vs Sporting, win the Champs League. Job done :)
Good luck!

kuy
07-10-15, 11:58 PM
I'd be prioritising the Champions League here :) As in, if I was Forbs and I could only win one trophy this year, I would choose the CL :ok: but I hope you win all three!

RuiEsteves
08-10-15, 07:56 AM
@kuy: well that is what Tito has done, ie prioritizing the CL. Those last 2 Liga games involved mostly reserves and it showed, we were lucky to get away with a win vs Maritimo. To be honest Tito is even surprised, with all the points we dropped recently, that we are still with a chance to retain our title in the Liga.

troza
08-10-15, 09:17 AM
Lucky to win vs Marítimo but unlucky to loose the first game.

And now we are all super curious... will you finally win the CL? I hope so!

And I also hope that you win both portuguese competitions!

RuiEsteves
09-10-15, 12:20 AM
Right. The Germans in general are not exactly the kind to lay down before the battle is over, and Dortmund as title holders are gearing up to storm southern Portugal. Thousands of yellow & black jerseys swarm the streets of the usually quiet city of Setubal, several jumbo jets have been chartered and there is almost a feeling of arrogance floating in Dortmund’s camp that the first leg was a black swan type event and that the Portuguese minnows don’t deserve to be in the final game. What about Setubal’s victory away at Bayern earlier in the season then? Another black swan?...

On his side, Forbs is confident. A few key players are still injured (Pinto Neves, Bosingwa, Paulito, Nélson Veiga) but his starting XI remains very solid. The club failed twice before at that stage in the competition, but was never in such a position to qualify. Bonfim is ready. The coach delivers an inspirational speech, and he does not do that very often anymore. “It’s our homes we need to defend, and the Graal will be conquered. March on lads!”

> May.9, 2012 / Champions League, Semi-Final (leg.2)
Vitoria Setubal v Borussia Dortmund : 0-0 / MoM: Valter


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Well… the scenario of this match is as horrendous as the first leg was idyllic. After 4’ only, veteran and key centre-back Bocas is red-carded for a two-footed challenge; Forbs has a moment of hesitation, but decides to replace striker Joséto with Humberto Barros, pushing Fihado alone up front and ordering his Guerreiros to defend. A stunned Bonfim see their players abandon posession and park the bus. The German side is destabilized and their coach will perform no less than 3 changes in the first 30’, before his side finally settles in offensive formation. Before half-time, young keeper Valter is forced to 2 great saves. Back to the changing rooms and it’s 0-0. Tito urges the lads to carry on and hold.

On 55’ Dortmund who are now starting to play really well, set Ewerthon but he aims too high. Pressure mounts and at the hour, beyond the early red-card there have been 3 additional YC collected by the hosts… until a second disaster strikes: Kaka is booked for the 2nd time and is out. Setubal are down to 9 men and there is still half-an-hour to play! the entire stadium is a pack of nerves as Borussia litterally besiege the Portuguese goals. At 70’ Valter makes a life saving block… the clock continues to tick. Gradually Vitoria’s central defense cannot contain the attackers any longer and on 84’ Ewerthon is superbly set behind their backs, he is on-side and alone, he is going to score and… oh Valter, an incredible save! the sound in the crowd is louder than for a goal as the Portuguese U21 international has completely destroyed the last German hopes. And the ref whistles, it’s over! The Fort Alamo has held, the 9 brave Guerreiros have pushed the panzers back and they are in the Final, yes… oh yes!!!
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/VS-BVB-stats_zpsa0ocyawz.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/VS-BVB-stats_zpsa0ocyawz.png.html)It’s done! It’s a miracle! The fort has held against German onslaughts! Players are exhausted, lying on the pitch, the crowd jumps over the fences and embraces their heroes… there are casualties with those 2 red-cards which will deprive both Bocas and Kaka of the greatest game in the club’s History, and they are both in tears. But the dream has come reality: VITORIA SETUBAL ARE IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL!!! and to make it even more memorable, it will be against the side whom many consider the most legendary in Europe – FC Barcelona and their superstars. There are now 2 weeks to regroup and focus on the last 3 remaining domestic games, with Liga and Taça ready for the taking. Os Guerreiros are hungry!

RuiEsteves
09-10-15, 12:23 AM
Following such historic qualification there is barely time to breathe let alone celebrate, since Vitoria have one isolated hom game vs Campomaiorense 2 days before the very last showdown of the Portuguese Primeira Liga at the Alvalade. A win today means that a draw would be enough vs Sporting CP to retain the title, while any other result would force Setubal to win away against their arch-rivals if they want to keep their crown. Still plagued by injuries, Forbs has no choice but to rotate and he rests no less than Bocas, Coutinho, Fernandes, Kaka and Fihado.

> May.11, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#33)
Vitoria Setubal v Campomaiorense : 1-0 / goal: Ednilson (pen.) / assist: Tosa / MoM: Touré
It all starts rather well with a penalty-kick granted on the 9’, and converted by captain Ednilson. After 34’ a very tense Campomaiorense who play for a European slot, have already collected 5 YC in what is a very tight game. At the hour Tosa finds the post, right about when Tito is forced to rest Ednilson, Joséto and Olembé. Until the very end these young Guerreiros will tremble, the visitors striking the post in the very last minute. It’s been a nerve-wreaking match, but in the end a win!!

The young Academy guard of João, Rosa, Tosa, Joséto, Jean-Ma, Rock have done their job, helped by veterans Lassissi or Ouedraogo who gave it all they could. It’s a very important victory which puts Setubal on top of the table, almost by miracle given the poor level displayed in the Liga lately, the horrific agenda and the injuries.


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Well FC Porto obviously cannot be champions anymore and will finish in any case behind Vitoria. If Sporting CP manage to win against Setubal at the Alvalade, then the title is theirs; otherwise it will remain in the hands of Tito for a 5th consecutive season! It can hardly get more exciting as far as the Primeira Liga is concerned…!!

BobMem
09-10-15, 07:04 AM
Fantastically tense game vs Dortmund, but a great result! Job done in you game in hand (as I predicted ;)), now go and win the next 2! :D

troza
09-10-15, 08:59 AM
Wow! What a season endind!! Too bad you lost 2 players for the final but that's better than being outside the final :)

Just wow!!

RuiEsteves
09-10-15, 09:05 AM
@BobMem, Troza: it was a nerve-wracking game, when Kaka was red-carded I thought the floodgates would open. But our young keeper Valter was fantastic!

3 games left now: final showdown at the Alvalade, Cup final and then FC Barcelona in the CL...

troza
09-10-15, 10:15 AM
3 games for 3 titles. I know that you wouldn't mind to loose the first 2 just to win the third but I know that you can win all of them.

Now you'll have Kaka and Bocas ready for Sporting and for the cup final :P

kuy
09-10-15, 01:18 PM
No idea why Bocas needed resting for the Campomaiorense game, he only played four minutes against Dortmund! :P

RuiEsteves
09-10-15, 01:44 PM
@troza: he did not need to rest, but since the Sporting game is 2 days after the Campomaiorense one, I need several players to be fit starters for the more important Sporting game and Bocas was one of them.

For the Cup final you are (unfortunately) correct: both Bocas and Kaka should play the entire game!

RuiEsteves
10-10-15, 07:15 AM
Seldom do you have the last game of the entire season being the decider between the first and second in the table. The anticipation around this clash at the Alvalade is tremendous, especially with Setubal being Portugal’s representative in 10 days in the Final of the Champions League. Vitoria have a slight advantage since a draw would see them finish top. Sporting Clube de Portugal are ready; they are without both Ricardo Quaresma and Hugo Viana injured, but they are determined to be crowned Champions of Portugal tonight against their arch-rivals since Tito Forbs took office. The Setubal coach has a little more worries since Pinto Neves, Bosingwa, Paulito and Nélson Veiga are still not fit to play while José Maria Gama is suspended. He is however able to field a very strong XI. Bring it on!

> May.13, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#34)
Sporting CP v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Kaka, Joséto / assist: Ednilson


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The entire José de Alvalade vibrates such is the noise from the crowd. Sporting take no prisoners tonight, they are determined and offensive. First in action however are Os Guerreiros when Joséto sets Fihado, but the great Petr Cech parries. On 32’, Källström delivers superbly for the fearsome Marius Niculae in the area, but the Romanian sends the wall wide. 2’ later is a turning point in the game when Dalla Bona, following a crossing by Satmar, sees his volley parried by Champions League hero Valter, oh superb! It’s been a tense and balanced first half, at (0-0) the title still goes to Setubal.

The great Kaka will be sorely missed in Stade de France against FC Barcelona. On 53’ his attempt grazes Cech’s crossbar, and on 63’ he lands a wonderful free-kick into nets, thus probably gifting his side with the title, what a shot this was!! For the nest quarter of an hour, Sporting get all the posession but Vitoria are well positioned and there are few chances for the hosts; gradually, heads go down for the Leones and on 86’ comes the killer blow: it’s a great play in midfield, captain Ednilson finding Joséto in the area who controls, aims cooly and GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! It’s all over, Vitoria remain the undisputed Kings of Portugal!!


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2011/12 Primeira Liga final standings

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Psmith
10-10-15, 10:11 AM
Congratulations on another title :)

I have a hard time following this story since Benfica seems to have quietly slip into mid-table obscurity while Sporting is title contender each year. Twilight zone :crazy:

RuiEsteves
10-10-15, 01:32 PM
Thanks Jack_Rabbit.



I have a hard time following this story since Benfica seems to have quietly slip into mid-table obscurity while Sporting is title contender each year. Twilight zone :crazy:
I see we have a hardcore fan here! :D
Well it is the first time I play with the ODB but is that not so more or less all the time given how both clubs start the game? SCP have a great team from the start and have remained very good for 11 seasons so far, and Benfica start as average and have remained so as well... SLB have changed coach and tactic God knows how many times, but it does not seem to help much.

RuiEsteves
10-10-15, 01:49 PM
We are three days before D-Day. Three days before Vitoria Setubal play a Champions League Final against FC Barcelona – someone pinch me, it sounds so impossible to believe. And there is a Taça do Portugal Final ahead of the squad against an always dangerous Salgueiros side. One piece of bad news first: Fernandes has picked a 2-weeks injury and he will play neither of the finals, his season is over. Priority goes to the Champions League game in Paris, so Tito does rotate; he can however count on both Bocas and Kaka who are unfortunately suspended for the game vs Barça. Saliou Lassissi and Jean-Ma will start at the back, Claudio and Paulito in midfield.

Both clubs have already played a Portuguese Cup Final against each other in 2005 (Setubal won 2-0). On the Vitoria side, Ednilson is the sole player who started then and will start today, while Marco Tabuas, Ouedraogo, Lassissi and Marajo were already present in the match sheet in 2005.

> May.20, 2012 / Taça do Portugal (Final)
Vitoria Setubal v Salgueiros : 4-0 / goals: Kaka (2), Lassissi, Marajo / assits: Ednilson, Claudio, Lassissi / MoM: Kaka
Within 5’ it’s all over with an incredible show from the magician Kaka, scoring after 60 seconds following a superb delivery from Ednilson, before drifting by 4 defenders to double on the 5’ with a stunning goal. The Porto side will then gradually lose their composure, Nuno Mata collecing a 2nd YC just before half-time, and ex-Guerreiro Rodolofo, who had left the club in bad terms, losing it later with a head-butt on poor Claudio! Salgueiros are down to 9 players, and will end up conceding 4 goals in total, one from veteran Marajo and another from old-timer Saliou Lassissi who was maybe playing right there his very last game for the club. It’s a fantastic victory and another trophy!


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This is Vitoria Setubal’s 8th Taça do Portugal, the 6th under Tito Forbs. It is also the 5th time that Tito manages to drive the club to a domestic double Championship/Cup, which is an astonishing achievement really. What a joy to see club veterans such as Saliou Lassissi, Marajo, Marco Tabuas or Rahim Ouedraogo, celebrate on the pitch of Jamor yet another trophy with young guns from the Academy such as Claudio or Jean-Ma who never would have dreamt to be there only a few months ago, but also more confirmed young local players such as Paulito, Tosa, Rosa or Joséto. It can’t get any better can it? And to think there is … a Champions League final in 3 days!!!

BobMem
10-10-15, 05:30 PM
Two great results there, now just the easiest of the 3 games left.

Barcelona? Never heard of them! Os Guerreiros!

RuiEsteves
10-10-15, 09:34 PM
Exactly at the same time as Vitoria were celebrating their Cup victory, the Catalans won their final sprint against Real Madrid and retained their Spanish Champions title, which is nothing less than… their 8th Champions title in a row!! and quite frankly when looking at their squad, it’s little wonder given how class and talent ridden they are in every line, with a few of the game’s greatest in Burdisso, Hofland, Arca, Xavi, Saviola or van Nistelrooy. And to make things even worse, all but a slightly injured Carlos Pujol will be fit and firing to play Setubal. How does one beat a team like that?


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Well in truth and although they have been European behemoths over the past decade, reaching the Champions League final 5 times since 2002, they have actually only won once against… Sporting CP (2-1) in 2010 and it was a hotly contested game.


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Another ray of hope for Vitoria is the past encounters between both teams. Both sides have clashed 4 times during the Champions League pool phases in recent years for a total of 8 games played (the most against any European side, equal with Celtci Glasgow) resulting in 3W, 2D, 3L. In other words pretty even, although there have been a few spectacular spankings at both ends…

RuiEsteves
10-10-15, 09:46 PM
On Vitoria’s side Tito Forbs remains as cool as ever and this definitely has an impact on his players. The entire country – let alone the city of Setubal – is up in arms for that game of David vs Goliath; the board of directors has for the first time in the club’s History, proposed to rent a private jet to fly to Paris, which Forbs has refused on grounds that his players are Guerreiros and not prima donas.

Another source of worry is the absence of 3 key starters on Wednesday: center-back Bocas (suspended), midfielder Fernandes (injured), forward Kaka (suspended) the latter being in superb form. But the coach is confident he has enough depth and talent around the park and starts with :

Valter – Olembé, Barros, Coutinho, Nélson Veiga – Bosingwa, Touré, Ednilson (c) – Fihado, Tosa – Pinto Neves
(bench: M.Tabuas, Ouedraogo, JM Gama, Paulito, Oliveisa, Marajo, Joséto)

It’s the game of their life and those players don’t need to be told. It’s also the most important game in the History of the club. Reaching the Final is an incredible feat by itself, but that is not what Tito is after. He said it the very first day he took over the job: he wants to win each and every single game.

kuy
10-10-15, 10:13 PM
Marajo and Joseto supply some good firepower from the bench, could see one of them making the difference. But looking at that Barcelona squad - particularly their defence - this will be a tough game! How did they do against Milan in the semi-final, was it tight or did they win comfortably? Do Milan still have a great squad like last season?

RuiEsteves
10-10-15, 10:17 PM
Marajo and Joseto supply some good firepower from the bench, could see one of them making the difference. But looking at that Barcelona squad - particularly their defence - this will be a tough game! How did they do against Milan in the semi-final, was it tight or did they win comfortably? Do Milan still have a great squad like last season?
Barça crushed AC Milan (4-0) at the Camp Nou, and drew (0-0) in San Siro. More or less same AC Milan squad as last season, only one year older (still Bruno Melo as their playmaker, however Van Nistelrooy transfered to... Barcelona at the inter-season). There is no better squad on the planet than that Barça in my game currently, that's for sure. I agree with you about their defense - overcoming guys like Burdisso and Hofland, they usually win all their duels. Our midfield, for once, will struggle to dominate against Xavi or Gerard, and they have those X-factor world-class strikers who can score from anywhere anytime...

RuiEsteves
11-10-15, 09:12 AM
The Portuguese community in Île-de-France has answered Portugal’s call. Although most of them are fans of Os Tres Grandes, there was no way they would not support their kins from Setubal for such a game. So while the actual Vitoria fans barely number 10,000 in the stands, Stade de France is massively Portuguese on the night. A big factor.

> May.23, 2012 / Champions League, Final / Paris, Stade de France
FC Barcelona v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2 / goals: Chivu (own goal), Pinto Neves / assist: Olembé / MoM: Valter


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- 2’: it’s a memorable start to that final. Young Tosa gets an intercept, passes to Ednilson who immediately crosses in the area for Pinto Neves who gets to the ball; Cristian Chivu throws his leg in front of the Portugal forward and he deflects the soft shot… into the nets!!! oh sweet Jesus it’s a valid goal, the fans go wild and Vitoria are gifted a goal from the start!!! (0-1).
- Barça are stunned. It takes a while for them to regroup, Os Guerreiros fight on every posession.
- 18’: Sidney Govou rifles a half-volley -> Valter parries.
- 20’: the Catalans start to take control of the game and create chances. From a distance, Haruna Babaginda shatters the crossbar and seconds later Javier Saviola sees his superb volley parried by Valter.
- The fans start chanting to the glory of young Valter. He is 20 years old and he has been astonishing lately. If he is in one of those special days, this will count heavily towards the final result.
- 30’: while Bosingwa battles like a mad man in midfield, Barcelona get a counter-attack and both Fernandez and Saviola get a shot at goal – too high on both occasions.
- 40’: Setubal have resisted and maintained their one-goal advantage; they play cleverly and push towards the end of the half, obtain a corner-kick. Salomon Olembé knows where to find his striker, and Pinto Neves jumps higher than everyone in the area… and his header goes inside! It’s a goal, oh what a beauty!! (0-2).
- Oh what a dream first half this has been: a slight domination from FCB and … 2 goals to nil for Vitoria. It doesn’t get any better.

- But it can certainly get worse. Both our center-backs have had a phenomenal first half but on 48’ Humberto Barros lets everyone down. He collects a harsh YC for a tackle, and loses his temper kicking the ball away in front of the ref. It’s a red-card!! oh what a complete disaster here. Tito gets José Maria Gama in, replacing Fihado. He orders his team to park the bus and hold the fort just like in Bonfim vs Dortmund. It is now a completely different game.
- Louis van Gaal on his side, get the Dutchmen in: Hofland and van Nistelrooy enter the pitch.
- 58’: on a rare counter-attack, Setubal get a free-kick. Pinto Neves fires and Abbiati gets there with the fingertips, oh the 3rd gaol was close!
- 70’: what a fantastic triangle comibination by Barcelona, Govou gets the ball and is free in the area, it’s in! (1-2). They have clawed one back, the final 20’ will be torrid.
- Rahim Ouedraogo replaces Olembé on the left flank, while Coutinho collects a YC. Marajo replaces Tosa, bringing his experience and set pieces.
- 84’: Julio Arca fires a free-kick -> oh what a save from Valter!
- 86’: another free-kick. Pohl strikes and Valter fingertips into corner. The kick goes high in the area and Burdisso jumps at least one head above everyone and pounds straight under the crossbar… and here a miracle happens. Valter somehow puts a hand in front of the ball and saves; Saviola rushes for the killer blow and the young keeper somehow is back on his feet and gets his body on the line. The entire stadium is quiet. It’s the save of the century.
- “VALTER, VALTER!” – can be heard from the stands. And sure enough, he ears the supports and on 92’ in the last minute of this legendary game, van Nistelrooy fires another header which goes inside -> but the hero of an entire country manages again a last-ditch save, his 7th of the evening.
- It’s all over! They did it!! The mess on the pitch is impossible to describe, Valter is being carried over everyone’s shoulders. Abbiati congratulates him. Tito Forbs is nowhere to be seen, he has already disappeared in the changing rooms.


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There are just no words.

kuy
11-10-15, 05:08 PM
Amazing! What an achievement!

BobMem
11-10-15, 08:45 PM
Fantastic! Well done Valter and congratulations Vitoria!

Baron Zbimg
11-10-15, 10:19 PM
Wow. Amazing result. What a team. Valter for European Goalkeeper of the year !

Psmith
12-10-15, 10:04 AM
There wasn't enough fried squid to celebrate this in Setubal :D

Congratulations!

RuiEsteves
13-10-15, 05:06 AM
Hello folks this is Rui Lopes, Tito Forbs' assistant... yeah the squids, the wine, the beer... and the party ain't even finished yet...:rockon:... this city just won't go to sleep anymore.

Have you seen Tito by the way? he disappeared in the changing rooms at the end of the game and was never seen again...:suspicious:

RuiEsteves
13-10-15, 05:52 AM
Well it's fairly obvious who the May Player of the month award goes to, for the second consecutive time: Setubal's keeper Valter based on : 7.63 avg, 2 MoM / 2 goals conceded over 8 games (!!). With 5 saves in Bonfim against Dortmund, and then 7 saves against Barça in the Final, he was THE key player in this incredible Champions' League success. Now an absolute hero at only 20 years old!


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Summary of Player of the Month awards this season:

Aug. -> Marajo
Sep. -> Pinto Neves
Oct. -> Pinto Neves
Nov. -> Marajo
Dec. -> Ednilson
Jan. -> Ednilson
Feb. -> Ednilson
Mar. -> Kaka
Apr. -> Valter
May -> Valter

troza
13-10-15, 09:40 AM
Congratulations! Perfect season!!

And 2012 is earlier than what I did with Barreirense :) Great stuff :)

RuiEsteves
17-10-15, 10:38 AM
Well. A Domestic double and an incredible victory in the Champions League: 2011/12 is now the best ever season for the club in terms of results which means all players involved in it, especially those that made it to the Starting XI, will have forever a special status about them. There are 3 changes only compared to last season: Salomon Olembé ahead of Humberto Barros at LB (although that was tightly contested), Bosingwa ahead of young Paulito at DMC and Pinto Neves getting his starting slot back as SC ahead of Joséto. Which means an older team (26.5 avg.) comprising only 2 Academy products: Fernandes and Tosa. A very special mention to Nélson Veiga with his 11th starting slot for Os Guerreiros, the 9th for captain Ednilson and the 6th for Kaka.

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For the second time only in the History of the club one player, PINTO NEVES, manages to be elected Best Player of the Liga. A remarkable achievement, with an impressive rating of 8.23 and a huge lead over the 2nd.


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Ednilson is once again in the top 10 and is selected in the Liga Team of the Year for the 8th consecutive season. An all-time record and another testimony, if any was needed, of how great a mark Ednilson will have left in Portuguese football History.

Finally for the first time ever, a Guerreiro is named in the European Trophy Awards and its a bit of a surprise to see 31-yr old Bocas nominated in 3rd position as Best Defender.


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RuiEsteves
17-10-15, 10:39 AM
And 2012 is earlier than what I did with Barreirense :) Great stuff :)
What year did you get your first CL final with Barreirense? and first CL win? also, Barreirense starts the game in what, Segunda? or lower leagues? and their squad and financial clout is considerably inferior to that of Setubal in July 2001...

Psmith
17-10-15, 01:41 PM
I'm sorry if you have discussed this before but I'm curious: has the Bonfim stadium been expanded? Do you have a first-class youth academy as well?

troza
18-10-15, 10:08 PM
What year did you get your first CL final with Barreirense? and first CL win? also, Barreirense starts the game in what, Segunda? or lower leagues? and their squad and financial clout is considerably inferior to that of Setubal in July 2001...

Not really that inferior... Barreirense starts at 2ªB and I played the ODB (meaning, Tó Madeira was available for me). It took me 3 years to get to the 1st division... you still did better than me :P

First final in 2015, first win in 2018 after 3 loses in a row in the final.

RuiEsteves
19-10-15, 10:13 PM
I'm sorry if you have discussed this before but I'm curious: has the Bonfim stadium been expanded? Do you have a first-class youth academy as well?
No I have never discussed it but even if it was the case, please ask any questions you wish about this story you are more than welcome! we now average ~15k per game in Bonfim and the stadium is an all-seater with a capacity of 30k, I have asked once for extension but the Board said (quite rightly so) that they did not see the need. After 2 or 3 seasons, I have asked for investment in youth academy and ever since we have the best setup possible.

cheers

RuiEsteves
20-10-15, 10:19 PM
- Valter (20) / 49 app – 28 conceded, 3 MoM / 7.37
After a disastrous end of last season, it seems Tito was right to renew his trust to the young keeper. He had a great season with an astonishing finish, being man of the match both in the Champions League semi-final return leg, and the Final during which he reached forever a heroic status. Setubal’s keeper for the decade ahead !

- Marco Tabuas (35) / 6 app – 4 conceded, 1 ass / 7.33
He has helped Valter sustain the pressure and improve throughout the season, while getting the occasional appearance. Happy in that role.

- Quim (36) / 4 app – 1 conceded, 1 MoM / 7.75
The Portugal international had to step-up in a home game vs Bayern and three other Liga fixtures, in which he showed his intact skills. His contract expires, unlikely to renew.

Valter being now the undisputable starter and long-term keeper, it’s only a matter of whether Forbs convinces Quim for one more year, or seeks another 3rd GK.

troza
21-10-15, 09:07 AM
Will Quim be good enough for the 3rd keeper role? I would like to see a young keeper with that role cause Marco Tábuas won't last forever!

Baron Zbimg
21-10-15, 09:38 AM
I agree with Troza here. Also, no award at all for Valter, not even in the Team of the Year ? Voters are as clueless in the game as in real life ...


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RuiEsteves
21-10-15, 09:02 PM
@troza, Baron: I always struggle with those 3rd keepers. As a principle I do not like rotating keepers as I consider it is a position which both requires a total confidence from the coach and little fitness. By the way, I am also skeptical with the new trend in real life to rotate your keepers (Real, Barça, Arsenal, Chelsea...). Therefore my 3rd keepers usually never play - Quim has been an exception this season with 4 appearances because both others keepers were simultaneously injured. This normally leads my 3rd keeper to linger in the squad, having no chance to improve and usually ending up discontent or frustrated. That's why I tend to go with old, if possible ex-players from the club. Quim fits the bill perfectly and I hope he can carry on for one more year. I could recruit the young Loureiro from Estrela Amadora (he is Vitor Baia's regen) but what's the use? he would not play and not improve.

Valter fits the plot of the Story pefectly well (remember Tito Forbs used to be a GK when he was young - albeit a bad one). He went from zero (1-6 vs AC Milan last year, a rating of 2) to absolute hero against Dortmund and even more so against Barcelona in the CL Final. In between, Forbs had given him a second chance. With what he has achieved he is forever in Setubal's HoF that's for sure, and the fans are now madly in love with him. So he does not really need competition, but I am sure Tabuas and Quim still have a couple of tricks to teach him!

RuiEsteves
21-10-15, 09:10 PM
- Salomon Olembé (31) / 32(9) app – 3 goa, 6 ass, 2 MoM / 7.15
His offensive prowess and great crossings in the box made him a starter again, for the 4th season in 6 years at the club. A great achievement. One year left on his contract: will Tito extend him beyond 2013?

- Humberto Barros (26) / 24(9) app – 2 goa, 1 ass, 1 MoM / 7.09
Versatile and super solid in defense, the Brazilian is a pefect, more defensive complement to Olembé. Will strive to be a starter again. Collected 2 YC’s in the Champions League Final which could have cost dearly – but all is forgotten. An asset for the future.

- Rahim Ouedraogo (31) / 10(14) app – 1 ass / 6.67
A very similar season the previous one, useful bench option on either flanks of the defense. One year of contract left, unlikely to renew for the time being.

Enough depth at it stands, Tito must however decide whether he will seek to renew Olembé’s and Ouedraogo’s contracts - failing which a recruitment will be needed at some point.

RuiEsteves
21-10-15, 09:17 PM
- Nélson Veiga (34) / 30(2) app – 4 ass / 6.88
While he managed to start for the 11th consecutive season for the club, an extraordinary feat, he clearly is past his prime now and was at times disappointing. Will have to gradually accept being benched more. One year left on his contract.

- Saliou Lassissi (33) / 5(3) app – 1 goa, 1 ass / 6.75
A sub again for the 10th consecutive season, the Ivoirian veteran managed to start and score during the Cup final. Will he change his mind like last summer, and renew his otherwise expiring contract?

- Ôscar (17) / 3 app / 6.67
3 appearances at a still very young age, the staff is expecting significant improvements in years to come. Available for loan.

- Tiago Miguel (23) / 2(2) app / 6.50
Has not stepped-up and is now only in the squad for depth. May end up transfer-listed.

With the decline of Nélson Veiga, the likely departure of Lassissi and the uncertain future of Ouedraogo, and in spite of Kolo Touré’s ability to cover RB, Forbs should now be looking at recruiting a new starter for this position.

RuiEsteves
21-10-15, 09:23 PM
- Bocas (31) / 41 app – 1 goa, 1 ass, 1 MoM / 7.22. 3rd Best European Defender.
His 5th season as a starter, Bocas proved once again what a superb CB he is. His only drawback was 2 red cards, one of which in the return leg vs Dortmund which cost him the CL Final. Rewarded with an unexpected 3rd Best European Defender award - the first ever of the kind in the club's History.

- Coutinho (23) / 40 app / 7.17
Also his 5th consecutive season as starter – and he is only 23yr-old! the 4th in association with Bocas, they do form a superb duo. Another very good season for him, despite 2 red cards. Held the fort in the CL Final vs Barça. Continues to start also for the Seleção.

- José Maria Gama (26) / 23(1) app – 2 ass / 7.21
Played a lot more and very well, due to the crazy schedule and the number of suspensions collected by the starters. A great CB option on the bench, an asset for the future.

- Jean-Ma (24) / 13 app / 7.15
The Guinean neo-pro from the Academy probably never thought he would start 13 games on his first year, including a Cup Final. Also got his first cap for his country. Another handy option for the future.

Both starters plus Gama and Jean-Ma as back-up is good enough, whilst Barros offers an additional depth option. No recruitment needed at CB.

RuiEsteves
21-10-15, 09:42 PM
- Ednilson (c) (29) / 48 app – 5 goa, 11 ass, 6 MoM / 7.75. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year.
After a slow start, Vitoria’s captain had once again an outstanding season, never injured and driving his teammates forward in the harsh moments. Reached his own personal nirvana at 29yr-old when he lifted the Champions League trophy on May 23rd in Paris. He finished 7th Best Player of the Liga but improved on his previous record as he was named in the Liga Team of the Year for the 8th season! It remains a scandal that Fernando Santos continues to ignore him for the Seleção.

- Fernandes (22) / 34 app – 3 goa, 3 ass, 3 MoM / 7.47
The Academy product confirmed his starting slot with another solid, albeit less spectacular season. Hampered by an 8-games ban in the Liga following a red card, and then an injury in May which meant he did not partake in the CL Final. Started 5 times for the Seleção and yet, was not included in the squad that went to Euro 2012.

- Bosingwa (29) / 42(4) app – 3 goa, 3 ass, 2 MoM / 7.39
A great season, his 4th as starter in central DMC; Bosingwa fought hard and convinced Tito that he was the right choice ahead of young Paulito. Solid in defensive tasks and very consistent, he is at his peak right now.

- Paulito (20) / 27(11) app – 3 goa, 5 ass, 1 MoM / 7.32
Lost his starting slot and yet still managed to appear in 38 games. The future is his and his talent huge, but in the tighter European games Forbs preferred to rely on the solidity of Bosingwa.

- Kolo Touré (31) / 25(5) app – 1 goa, 3 ass, 1 MoM / 7.10
He was good in his first season, and even better this year. Solid, versatile as DMC or RB, the Ivoirian really is quite an asset in Tito’s hands and would really want to become a full blown starter for a club in which he has now well adapated. Will the coach move him to RB ahead of Nélson Veiga? only one year left on his contract.

- Armando Rosa (23) / 5(16) app – 2 ass / 7.05
Although it remains too difficult to see a starter in him, the Academy graduate played a lot more than ever before and did really well. Another local player breaking through!

- Claudio (22) / 7 app – 1 ass / 7.57
Luis Andrade’s nephew improved and lived a dream, starting 7 times including the Cup Final in which he played very well. It’s already a great achievement and he is finally settling nicely into the squad, adding depth as central DMC. Must keep his temper under control (1 red card).

- João (19) / 2(4) app – 1 ass / 6.83
Has improved all across the spectrum of his abilities and was rewarded with 6 appearances. A real hope for the future now, remains available for loan.

- Marcio Jesus (19) / unused. The new Academy player did not get a chance to appear, but does have somewhat of a potential. Available for loan.

With Rosa and Claudio having stepped-up, the depth is fine in the engine room provided Kolo Touré does not become a regular starter at RB...

kuy
21-10-15, 10:47 PM
Excellent average rating for Claudio, hope to see more starts for him next season! I think you have plenty of depth in defensive midfield even if Toure does become your right-back, so I would move him there ahead of Veiga (but still look for a new signing, or give games to Oscar to see how he develops - Forbs does want to promote youth after all...)

Baron Zbimg
22-10-15, 02:37 AM
Great write-ups as usual. I think it's time for changes in defense. Tito should let go Nelson Veiga, Olembe, Ouedraogo and Lassissi at the end of their contract. Fernando Santos should go to prison. Ignoring Ednilson is an insult to football. He's definitely one of the 5 best portuguese players of all time in my opinion, with Eusebio, Mario Coluna, Luis Figo and Jose Aguas. And yes, better than Rui Costa at this point. What's amazing is he still has at least 3 world class seasons in his boots.


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Baron Zbimg
22-10-15, 02:39 AM
Fernando Peyroteo will feel slighted and could be right :)


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RuiEsteves
26-10-15, 08:42 AM
@kuy: I might as well do that indeed and have Kolo Toure start as RB. This would see both Rosa and Claudio play even more at DMC, but you are right about Tito wanting to promote young players, especially when from the Academy.

RuiEsteves
27-10-15, 08:47 AM
@Baron: yes our defense is bound to undergo lots of changes soon, espcially LB and RB positions. Lack of depth + finishing contracts + ageing players...

You're quite right about Valter, it's a real shame he got no awards this season, be it domestic or even European! as for Ednilson.... well the Seleção is having a terrible Euro 2012 so Fernando Santos is likely to get shot anyway, but you're right it is sad to see the great midfielder out of it. He's been such an influencial figure in Portuguese football for the past 9 years, to be frank no one in Portugal understands that choice. How will Ednilson rank amongst the greatest? well you may be slightly ambitious here, lining him up with such illustrious names - but in any case it's too soon to say: he is "only" 29!

troza
27-10-15, 10:00 AM
Talking outside history... I think that you're talking about 2 problems of the game:

1 - To win awards in europe with players in a portuguese team, they must be the best of the best in europe and play a lot of games there.

2 - I still haven't figured what the computer uses to get players into the national teams but I'll admit that it is not a bright one... I usually get my players in the portuguese national team but it took me years to get players into Argentina, England and I still haven't got players regularly in Italy and Brazil, even when they are the best in the world.

BobMem
27-10-15, 04:47 PM
Both those things are to do with reputations I think. The Portuguese league probably has quite a low rep, therefore the teams also do, and the players' achievements don't count for as much (in the game's eyes). That's why they don't get the awards, and also why the foreigners don't get called up.

I think :)

RuiEsteves
27-10-15, 07:38 PM
@troza: agree about the European awards, BobMem is correct it probably works based on country/club/player reputation, which means it is almost always decided between the same clubs and players.

About the national side, well I can't really say no Setubal players are being picked - this season we had Bocas, Coutino, Pinto Neves, Nélson Veiga and Fernandes who were regualrly called up (the first three made it to Euro 2012). So it's more about Ednilson specifically, somehow the AI must rank him as "not good enough" while his ratings, achievements and awards in the Primeira Liga have just been outstanding for 9 years on the trot.

@BobMem: which "foreign players" are you refering to? you mean players based abroad and not being called-up into the national squad?

RuiEsteves
27-10-15, 09:53 PM
- Kaka (30) / 39(1) app – 18 goa, 4 ass, 4 MoM / 7.67
Another superb season for the Brazilian, the 6th as a starter at Vitoria. When in form, the impact he has over the team is simply enormous. Scored key goals in the toughest games, was soroughly missed in the CL Final. Only a year left on his contract, likely to renew but wants a fat sign-on fee.

- Tosa (23) / 25(7) app – 6 goa, 6 ass / 7.06
The Academy player managed to nail the other AMC starting slot, despite fierce competition and overall average performances. He does however have the ability to step-up for the big games, as evidenced by his crucial goal at the Alvalde in the CL quarter-finals. More is expected from him in the future though.

- Fihado (20) / 22(7) app – 3 goa, 2 ass / 6.83
Continued to improve which led Tito to offer him more and more game time. He is still young and needs to bridge that last step to the top-level.

- Marajo (31) / 18(10) app – 7 goa, 3 ass, 1 MoM / 7.36
After another superb start of the season, the iconic Brazilian was mostly relegated to the bench from which he continued to have an impact. At 31yr-old though, age is now starting to take its toll… only a year left on his contract, but happy to renew.

- Oliveisa (23) / 9(16) app – 3 ass / 7.00
Got decent amount of game time for solid performances, albeit lacking more offensive knout. Another great asset in Forbs’ offensive options.

- Paulo Antunes (21) / 7(2) app – 2 goa, 1 ass / 7.11
Another step-up for the Academy player who is beginning to have the looks of a potential starter. Great news!

- Antonio Ferreira (17) / unused. For the time being, competition at AMC is too fierce for the neo-pro from the Academy, who will remain on offer for a loan-out.

Both depth and talent are there, no reason to recruit at AMC as long as both Kaka and Marajo extend.

RuiEsteves
27-10-15, 10:26 PM
- PINTO NEVES (24) / 38(1) app – 21 goa, 7 ass, 8 MoM / 8.08. Best Player of the Liga. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year. Fans Player of the Year.
An incredible season for the Portugal international who has now made that last step into the world-class strikers category. Like Ednilson 2 years ago, he was named best player of the Primeira Liga, while he recorded with an average rating of 8.08 the second best ever performance for a Guerreiro (behind Pena’s out-of-this-world 8.37 in 2003/04). His international fame sky-rocketed as he scored Setubal’s second goal in the CL final.

- Joséto (20) / 19(12) app – 20 goa, 2 ass, 6 MoM / 7.39
20 goals for only 19 starts in the season is no small feat. Scoring key goals in crucial games such as vs Dortmund or at the Alvalade for the title decider, is also a testimony of his talent. There is no doubt Pinto Neves is ahead in the strikers’ hierarchy, but young Joséto is one hell of an option to have on the bench. And he is only 20yr-old.

- Rock (24) / 0(7) app – 1 goa / 6.71
The Congolese Academy player scored on his debut in the Liga, from the bench – which is always a good sign. Still has a margin of progression despite his young age.

- Valter Alberto (20) / 0(1) app / 6.00
Getting game time will be difficult, but all hope is not lost on Alberto who has improved. Available for loan.

- André (22) / unused. A very uncertain future for the Academy player who still has major shortfalls. Cannot be a starter and there are better options than him on the bench. Available for loan, but may end-up transfer-listed.

One could consider lack of depth on the position, but with Tosa and Fihado offering alternatives should Pinto Neves and Joséto be out simultaenously, we should be fine.

BobMem
28-10-15, 07:28 AM
Nice round up, some of your academy players are staying to look the business.

By foreigners I mean non-Portuguese, in reference to the Brazilian and Argentinian players not getting called up (troza)

troza
28-10-15, 10:01 AM
Nice round up, some of your academy players are staying to look the business.

By foreigners I mean non-Portuguese, in reference to the Brazilian and Argentinian players not getting called up (troza)

Braziliand, English and Italian, even when one of them is the best player in the world or the best european goalkeeper.

About the european awards... I just play with my main guys all the games in the champion's league... and the only problem is winning the FIFA world player of the year with my best player... but it was another one from my team winning so I can't complain. :P

Baron Zbimg
28-10-15, 06:11 PM
For awards players need to be good in the CL. For international call-ups it's mostly World Rep and Current rep that is considered unfortunately, so attributes and stats don't matter. I have a game where I have an amazing DM, averages over 8.10 every year, more than 100 passes per game, and has been MOTM in 5 different CL finals with two teams, he's never been called up to the Spanish National Team, something that is obviously a shame and highly unrealistic, same thing with Ednilson here ...


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troza
29-10-15, 09:52 AM
For awards players need to be good in the CL. For international call-ups it's mostly World Rep and Current rep that is considered unfortunately, so attributes and stats don't matter. I have a game where I have an amazing DM, averages over 8.10 every year, more than 100 passes per game, and has been MOTM in 5 different CL finals with two teams, he's never been called up to the Spanish National Team, something that is obviously a shame and highly unrealistic, same thing with Ednilson here ...


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Yup, that's it.

But even so... there are some national teams that are just harder than others to get some players there.

RuiEsteves
29-10-15, 02:04 PM
Well talking about players being called up in their national squads...

Kaka has just played over the 2012 summer 3 World Cup qualifiers with Brazil, a starter and key player in each game.

No less than six Setubal players have been included in the Seleção squad for the September World Cup qualifying games: Valter (for the first time!), Marco Tabuas (!!), Bocas, Coutinho, Fernandes and Pinto Neves. However still no Ednilson... while 4 ex-Guerreiros are present: Paulo Teixeira, Bruno Melo, Felipe Oliveira and Cristiano Ronaldo. The Portuguese will try to perform better than the horrendous Euro 2012 where they recorded 3 losses in their group to Belarus (1-2), France (1-5) and Spain (1-2). Holland went on to win the tournament in the final against hosts Denmark.

Four Vitoria players were also included in the Portugal U21 side: Paulito, Paulo Antunes, Fihado and Joséto.

Finally at 30yr-old, ex-Setubal star playmaker and captain Bruno Melo continues to be a magnet of interest amonst the greatest clubs: after 2 seasons with AC Milan (and one Calcio title), he moves to Real Madrid for a whopping transfer-fee of £11.25m !

RuiEsteves
29-10-15, 10:35 PM
Tito is a conservative man. When he’s coached a player for years and they’ve been loyal servants of the club, he just won’t let them go like that. He manages to convince Brazilians Kaka (£650k sign-on bonus) and Marajo to stay; Salomon Olembé, Kolo Touré, Nélson Veiga and Saliou Lassissi all agree to take wage cuts and extend their contract by one year. Even old keeper Quim carries on until next summer. That left only Rahim Ouedraogo with an unprotected last year of contract. The squad was the same, and fat with 35 professional players.

And yet, Forbs knew he had to strengthen his defense. Scout Bruno Martins had had an eye on a Nigerian left back for a while; at first Solomon did not want to leave Africa, but in the end he would be the 3rd Nigerian (after Rachid Yekini and Taribo West) to wear Vitoria’s colours under Tito’s tenure. The transfer fee was small (£125k) but the salary comfortable (£4k/w).
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Solomon-13.08.12_zpsywjiklry.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Solomon-13.08.12_zpsywjiklry.png.html)A fine addition to the squad albeit with two weaknesses: he would soon turn 28, and was weak under high balls (Jumping). But his versatility would add depth to the left side.

The decline of Nélson Veiga meant Forbs also needed to recruit a right-back. His first choice was Portuguese international Miguel Cunha, but the price tag demanded by Leixões exceeded £5m which was unreasonable. There was another prospect from Beira-Mar; Antonio Cruz was still very young (18) but promising (he is the regen of Abel Xavier). The club had to caugh-up £1.9m but he was a fine player already, and capable of playing as a DMC as well.
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Finally later in the summer, the prolific Bonfim Academy graduated yet again 3 young attacking players – the only kind the club seems to be capable of producing. None looked very promising according to Tito, but who knows how good a 16yr-old can become after a bit of coaching…

Ricardo Luis
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João Litos
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João Campos
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kuy
29-10-15, 11:32 PM
Joao Litos might turn into something - only 16 so physical stats will improve, and he's already got the determination, work rate and finishing. Will Ricardo Luis be trained to play in the centre?

BobMem
30-10-15, 07:24 AM
Doesn't the game respond to your squad shape? So it feels you have enough defensive players but not enough attacking ones (probably due to the formation you play), which is why the academy graduates are all attackers

RuiEsteves
30-10-15, 09:28 AM
Joao Litos might turn into something - only 16 so physical stats will improve, and he's already got the determination, work rate and finishing. Will Ricardo Luis be trained to play in the centre?
Yes João Litos just turned 16 so there may be hope for him; I am more skeptical about the other two, both of whom will indeed be trained to play in the centre since there are no wingers in our formation. What do you think of the other two recruits - Solomon and Antonio Cruz?


Doesn't the game respond to your squad shape? So it feels you have enough defensive players but not enough attacking ones (probably due to the formation you play), which is why the academy graduates are all attackers
Is it really so? I counted and in 11 years my Academy has produced 14 players - 0 keeper, 1 defender, 6 midfielders, 7 attackers. The rest of my squad being more or less balanced to match the number of positions I play in each rank, I don't feel the Academy is balancing things out very much! (note: in those 14 Academy players, I am not counting the ones which we have recruited as "free" and who had never play professional football before, but for the sake of the Story I consider them as well as "Academy products" - there are 6 of them and they are: Paulito, Tosa, Claudio, André, Jean-Ma, Rock.

RuiEsteves
30-10-15, 09:58 AM
So no departure and 5 recruits - 3 of which from the Academy - means that we are back with a very large squad of 40 players which Tito considers too many. However one has to take into account the fact that 18 of them are Academy players; they are shown in green below, in brackets the number of seasons at the club so far. Underlined are those players who have already been starters for at least one season, a * means the player has had an international cap.


> Keepers (3): Marco Tabuas* (16), Valter* (2), Quim* (1)

> Defense (14): Nélson Veiga* (12), Saliou Lassissi* (10), Rahim Ouedraogo* (8), Bocas* (7), Salomon Olembé* (6), Coutinho* (5), Tiago Miguel (5), Humberto Barros (2), Kolo Touré* (2), José Maria Gama* (2), Jean-Ma* (1), Ôscar (1), Solomon (0), Antonio Cruz (0)

> Midfield (8): Ednilson* (11), Bosingwa* (10), Fernandes* (7), Armando Rosa (7), Paulito (4), Claudio (4), João (2), Marcio Jesus (1)

> Attack (15): Marajo (11), Kaka* (6), Paulo Antunes (5), Pinto Neves* (4), Tosa (4), Oliveisa (4), Joséto (3), Valter Alberto (3), Fihado (2), André (2), Rock* (1), Antonio Ferreira (1), Ricardo Luis (0), João Litos (0), João Campos (0)


Only two in the above are on transfer-list: Tiago Miguel and André. Saliou Lassissi and Rahim Ouedraogo are in their last contract year. The squad is now unbalanced with way too many attacking players (15) for only 2 AMC + 1 Striker positions...

troza
30-10-15, 12:39 PM
Well... some of those are too young to consider part of the squad anyway.

About the regens... it is all about the guys that retire. With 40 players, you should get a lot of the better portuguese players. Just keep the size of the squad under control to keep seeing those young players. They won't appear there if there is no space for them.

RuiEsteves
30-10-15, 09:51 PM
It may be a risk but Forbs has decided not to play any friendly this summer, since the season is likely to be particularly intense. Vitoria already have a busy month ahead of them with 2 Supercups – Portuguese and European. Salgueiros have been thumped (4-0) in the Taça final 3 months ago, and Setubal have already beaten them once in a Supercup final (2005). But Forbs remains wary, even more so given the lack of fitness of the squad at this time in the season.

> Aug.11, 2012 / Supertaça
Vitoria Setubal v Salgueiros : 2-1 (e.t.) / goals: Joséto (2) / assists: Ednilson (2) / MoM: Ednilson
Os Guerreiros are clearly unfit and play a very poor first half, conceding the opener to Lambros Chonos. Having picked slight injuries, Fihado and Pinto Neves are subbed at half-time. The game changes when Clodoaldo is red-carded on 56’ for violent behaviour; Bosingwa and Ednilson take control of the midfield, the captain delivering 2 great assists for young Joséto who scores twice, the second goal during extra-time. A tough win, Vitoria players were booked 6 times!


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Warriors will always be warriors and Setubal conquer their 5th Portugal Supertaça for a perfect start to the season. Next up is the opener of the Primeira Liga 2012/13, an away trip to Campomaiorense. Star forward Kaka has picked a 3-weeks injury after playing several Wolrd Cup qualifiers with Brazil.

> Aug.18, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#1)
Campomaiorense v Vitoria Setubal : 0-3 / goals: Ednilson (pen.), Bosingwa, Joséto / assists: Touré, Fernandes / MoM: Touré
The game is over when on 26’ keeper Radu Bar brings down Kolo Touré in the area for a penalty and a red-card. Ednilson converts, Bosingwa and Joséto add in two more for a very solid and convincing victory.

In August 2004, 8 years ago, Setubal shocked Europe a second time (the first was winning the UEFA Cup in May of the same year) as they prevailed over power-house AS Roma in the European Supercup after a dramatic penalty shoot-out. Ednilson, Bosingwa, Nélson Veiga and Rahim Ouedraogo were already on the match sheet that day. Now as Champions League winners, Vitoria can win that prestigious trophy again if they manage to overcome their worst nightmare, Serie A champions Inter Milan. A club who have twice in the recent past, eliminated Os Guerreiros at the Champions League quarter-finals stage, with a lot of bitterness every time.

> Aug.24, 2012 / European Supercup
Vitoria Setubal v Inter Milan : 0-1 (e.t.) / MoM: Bocas
It’s a real shame so few spectators turn up in Monaco (8k) for this is really a great game of football with few errors and fouls between two sides of equivalent skills. Inter prefer playing from the flanks with Andrea Pirlo and Marco Marchionni the danger men who create several great chances including Pirlo clipping the post; while Vitoria dominate the midfield and are dangerous in the axis of play and on set pieces – such as when Fihado’s freekick shatters the crossbar. Both keepers Valter and Marcello Marchisio manage several great saves and it’s still (0-0) after 90’. Bocas is enormous in defense and as Setubal seem to have an edge during extra-time, they push forward and are caught on a counter-attack on the 117’ by Casas who finds the nets. Oh it’s a heart-breaking defeat, another one against the Lombardia arch-rivals!
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> Aug.27, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#2)
Vitoria Setubal v Benfica : 1-0 / goal: Joséto / assist: Olembé
Vitoria play a very solid game with an excellent Paulito in midfield, and take the lead early on with a 4th goal in 4 games by Joséto. Benfica’s international keeper Vitor Oliveira saves his nets several times, preventing a 2nd goal for the home side – and the win requires Valer to save twice during the 2nd half against the ever dangerous Mantorras. The 3 pts are deserved but were not easy to obtain. Nigerian Solomon made his debut.

There is the disappointment of the defeat in the European Cup obviously; but Tito can comfort himself with the Portuguese Supertaça, 2 wins out of 2 games in the Liga and his Guerreiros who are already playing really well. Before a frantic September.

Player of the month: he does not have the best rating (7.50) over the 4 games he played, but considering that in three of those he came on from the bench and yet managed to score 4 goals, the award goes for the first time to young Joséto. His brace against Salgueiros gave the Supercup to Vitoria, while another of his goals resulted in a victory over Benfica Lisboa. He is only the 2nd striker behind Pinto Neves but he certainly is proposing the hell of a challenge to the Portugal international star!
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RuiEsteves
31-10-15, 06:49 PM
It’s a terrible Phase 1 Group against, weirdly, 3 sides whom Vitoria have never in their long European History. Each one of them is worthy of a Phase 2 slot and could hope for more.


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Vitoria met 4 times with AS Roma but never againt Lazio, the other Roman team; this will be the 21st clash (!!) against an Italian side (the 11th different club from the Calcio), for still a narrowly positive record at (11-9) despite the European Supercup loss to Inter.

- 1966/67 - Juventus (0-2, 1-3) - UEFA Cup - Round 1
- 1968/69 - Fiorentina (3-0, 1-2) - UEFA Cup - Round 3
- 1972/73 - Fiorentina (1-0, 1-2) - UEFA Cup - Round 2
- 1972/73 - Inter Milan (2-0, 0-1) - UEFA Cup - Round 3
- 1999/00 - AS Roma (1-0, 0-7) - UEFA Cup - Round 1
- 2002/03 – Bologna 1909 (0-3, 0-2) - UEFA Cup - ¼ final
- 2004 - AS Roma (0-0, pen) - European Supercup
- 2005/06 – AS Roma (2-0, 1-2) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2005/06 – Inter Milan (0-3, 0-1) - Champions League - ¼ final
- 2006/07 - AS Roma (0-2, 0-2) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2006/07 - Napoli (1-2) - UEFA Cup - Final
- 2007/08 – Udinese (1-0, 0-0) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2007/08 – Juventus (2-0, 1-1) - Champions League) - ¼ final
- 2008/09 – Perugia (1-1, 2-0) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2008/09 – Parma (1-0, 2-0) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2008/09 – Inter Milan (0-0, 0-1) - Champions League - ¼ final
- 2010/11 – Inter Milan (1-0, 0-1) - Champions League – Phase 1
- 2010/11 – AC Milan (0-2, 1-6) - Champions League – Phase 2
- 2011/12 – Napoli (0-0, 1-0) - Champions League – Phase 2
- 2012 – Inter Milan (0-1, e.t.) - European Supercup

A little bit the same story with Glasgow: 4 times have Vitoria clashed with Celtic, but never yet with their arch-rivals Rangers. Record also slighty positive vs Scottish clubs at (3-2).

- 2005/06 - Celtic Glasgow (1-0, 0-2) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2006/07 – Celtic Glasgow (0-3, 3-0) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2007/08 – Celtic Glasgow (0-1, 2-1) - Champions League - Semi-Final
- 2008/09 – Celtic Glasgow (2-0, 1-0) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2010/11 – Hibernian (3-0, 2-1) - Champions League - Phase 1

Finally Bordeaux are a dangerous side whom Setubal have never met before; the historical record against French sides is more comfortable at (3-1)

- 1963/64 – AS Saint-Etienne (0-3, 1-1) – Cup Winners’ Cup - Round 1
- 1969/70 – Olympique Lyonnais (5-0, 2-1) – UEFA Cup - Round 2
- 1972/73 – Nîmes Olympique (1-0, 1-2) – UEFA Cup - Round 1
- 2003/04 – Olympique Lyonnais (4-3, e.t.) - UEFA Cup - Final

RuiEsteves
01-11-15, 11:43 AM
After a terrible Euro 2012, Portugal start well their WC qualifying campaign with an emphatic win in Brussels vs Belgium (4-1). It is a consecration for the country’s hero Valter, 21 yr-old, who gets his first cap. He, Coutinho, Fernandes and Pinto Neves are likely to form the backbone of the Seleção for many years to come.

Pinto Neves picks a slight injury and won’t travel to the Alvalade for yet another major clash in the Liga. Sporting CP have had a catastrophic start so far with 2 defeats, and having lost the past 3 encounters against Setubal (2 of which at home) they will want to redeem themselves in this game.

> Sep.8, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#3)
Sporting CP v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Fernandes / assist: Ednilson / MoM: Ednilson
Never in the History of Setubal had they so utterly dominated a game at the Alvalade. After 15’ Petr Cech had already made 3 great saves and although Hugo Viana pounds the crossbar at 24’, it is again the visitors with Joséto who are inches from scoring at the half-hour. Second half, on 56’ there is a superb midfield combination with Ednilson setting up Fernandes for a magnificient goal. The last half-hour is a demonstration from Os Guerreiros, Joséto almosts coring twice and Paulo Antunes hitting the crossbar in the last minute. It’s only (0-1) but what a performance!


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It could hardly be any better before the start of the Champions League campaign against a dangerous Rangers side packed with world-class talents such as Owen Hargreaves, Christian Poulsen, Barry Ferguson, Roque Santa Cruz, Mido, Andrés d’Allessandro or Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

> Sep.11, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#1)
Vitoria Setubal v Glasgow Rangers : 0-0 / MoM: Olembé
Although Setubal are in control of the game most of the time, Valter is still forced to 2 great saves on Santa Cruz in the first half. With Olembé running riot on the left flank, Vitoria do get several chances of their own all denied by Danish keeper Jesper Christiansen. In the end it is a disappoiting draw against a defensive, but dangerous Scottish side.

Well it’s a poor start to the group, while Lazio have beaten Bordeaux at the Olimpico. Ednilson, Barros and Touré are rested against Salgueiros in Bonfim.

> Sep.16, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#4)
Vitoria Setubal v Salgueiros : 3-1 / goals: Pinto Neves (2), Fernandes / assists: Paulito (2), Fernandes / MoM: Paulito
Although Salgueiros are dangerous, hitting the post once and scoring from the super-Greek striker Chonos, Vitoria play a superb game with outstanding performances from midfielders Paulito and Fernandes. Pinto Neves finally finds the nets with a double.

It’s another convincing victory in the Liga before a difficult trip to Parc Lescure against French vice-champions and quality outfit, Girondins de Bordeaux.

> Sep.19, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#2)
Bordeaux v Vitoria Setubal : 2-1 / goal: Pinto Neves / assist: Kaka
The Champions League title holders show their might, starting really well and scoring early on by star-striker Pinto Neves. Alas, everything changes as on 28’ Coutinho gives in a penalty and is red-carded for a two-footed chalenge in the area. Ibrahim-Ouali levels the score, and gives the French side the lead just before half-time on a solo counter-attack. Forbs orders his ten men to march on and attack in a splendid 2nd half, which Vitoria dominate with Kaka smashing the post; but they fail to equalize and concede defeat!


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This one hurts and is really unfortunate. Lazio have drawn (0-0) at Ibrox Stadium. Qualifying from this group will now be tough for the incumbent champions…

> Sep.23, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#5)
Vitoria Setubal v Belenenses : 2-0 / goals: Ednilson (pen.), Kaka / assists: Pinto Neves, Fernandes / MoM: Ednilson
With a penalty conceded after 2’ and keeper Barrientos sent-off, it’s a littlemiracle that Belenenses only lose this one-sided game by 2 goals.

5 wins in 5 Liga games, it could hardly be better if it was not for the 3-weeks injury picked by Pinto Neves. Which is unfortunate just before a must-win game in Bonfim against Lazio. In Serie B 2 years ago and currently mid-table of the Serie A, the Romans should not be under-estimated as they have reconstructed a new side with young skilled Italian players.

> Sep.26, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#3)
Vitoria Setubal v Lazio : 0-0 / MoM: Olembé
Os Guerreiros have no choice and attack full throttle from the start; during 90’, wave after wave of Portuguese attacks crush against super-keeper Matteo Lucchetti who makes no less than… 9 saves! during over-time the hosts take risks on a corner-kick and are caught on a terrible counter-attack and it takes a phenomenal save from Valter one-on-one against Olexiy Belik to prevent a distressing loss.


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It’s an unjust result, but it is what it is and Vitoria are now in a very tight spot. Bordeaux have drawn at Ibrox (0-0) which is quite fortunate – Lazio are top of the group with 5pts, Setubal are last with 2pts. A win at Stadio Olimpico is now almost a necessity. Time to re-group before another very important game in the Liga at the Dragão, against the current 2nd in the table.

> Sep.30, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#6)
FC Porto v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0
Porto are a dangerous side this season and they start the game very well, creating several chances who fall short solely because of the talent of Vitoria’s keeper. Gradually Setubal get back in the game, dominate and when Tonel is sent-off for a dangerous tackle at 65’, Os Guerreiros push forward and are close to scoring several times. In the end it’s a draw, Ribeiro almost nailing it for the home side on a dazzling counter-attack in over-time, once again parried by Valter.

It’s a good away draw thinks Forbs, but it seems his board disagrees….!


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It’s been a long and difficult month; successful domestically but much less so in Europe.

Player of the month: it was a close call between several of the midfield players, but in the end it is captain Ednilson who gets this month’s award with 6 games played for an average rating of 8.17 – 1 goal, 1 assist, 2 MoM. He was particularly key in the great away win at the Alvalde.

RuiEsteves
01-11-15, 06:36 PM
While the Seleção wins both its October qualifiers in Slovenia (3-0) and vs San Marino (1-0), Paulito picks a 3-weeks injury with Portugal U21. The game in Rome during the week being the top priority, Tito rests several players and starts Antonio Cruz (first appearance) and Claudio in the Liga.

> Oct.13, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#7)
Vitoria Setubal v Académica : 1-0 / goal: Joséto / assist: Ednilson
Although young Cruz is (harshly) red-carded after 28’ on his debut, Os Guerreiros never panick and score the sole goal of a game they have always dominated.

Feeling his young new recruit was hard-done by, Forbs for the first time in 12 years as head coach, appeals the 3-games ban… and the FA actually listen!


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The best possible XI is fielded at the Olimpico, except Pinto Neves who has not yet fully recovered. Setubal have played twice against AS Roma in this magnificient stadium, and lost each time.

> Oct.16, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#4)
Lazio v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1 / goal: Joséto / assist: Bosingwa / MoM: Fernandes
The Laziale are ready and after 10’ good minutes from the current champions, they take control and dominate. Valter can only postpone what seems unavoidable with several superb saves, when Anastasi finally scores just before half-time. As often in such circumstances, Os Guerreiros rally and own the second half with a great Fernandes. Joséto manages to equalize but it’s another draw in the end.

It could have been worse, but nevertheless Setubal are still bottom of this group with 3pts. Bordeaux have spanked Rangers (3-0) and take the lead. Vitoria really are in a tight corner now, destiny not in their hands anymore even if they win their last two games. Priority goes to Europe, Tito fields Solomon, Cruz, Jean-Ma, Claudio and Oliveisa for the trip to Espinho.

> Oct.21, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#8)
Espinho v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1 / goal: Marajo / assist: Oliveisa
This mixed Setubal side are in for a rough ride in Estadio Manuel Violas. It’s an attacking and spectacular game with many chances on each side; Valter is once again true to himself and prevents an embarassing defeat. Marajo gives the champions the lead at 54’ but it is only justice when Angel Abellan equalizes on 69’.

You don’t want to be your backs against the wall, needing a win at Ibrox Stadium – and yet this is what Setubal are now faced with. The Rangers line-up is quite frightening, and they need a win as much as Vitoria do.

> Oct.24, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#5)
Glasgow Rangers v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Pinto Neves / assist: Olembé / MoM: Pinto Neves
The first half is undecided in front of a roaring Glasgow crowd, the Rangers attacking force with d’Alessandro, Ibrahimovic and Santa Cruz looking very dangerous. Just before half-time, and right at the start of the second-half, Kaka who is not in great form misses two sitters and is subbed at the hour. The end of the game is one-sided for the Portuguese and on 72’, saviour Pinto Neves volleys home a great cross from Olembé. YES! finally a victory in this European campaign.


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French side Bordeaux have beaten Lazio (2-1) at home and are now certain to finish top of the group; they may throw away their last game in Bonfim, however Lazio will host Rangers at the Olimpico and although the Scots still have an outside chance to go through, they won’t be favourites. Why Lazio is ahead of Setubal in the table at this stage (0-0 in Bonfim, 1-1 in Rome) being not really clear…


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> Oct.29, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#9)
Vitoria Setubal v Alverca : 1-0 / goal: Touré / assist: Bocas
It is never easy to win those kind of games with a visiting side parking the bus from the first minute; Setubal attack and dominate, owing it to a great long-range strike from Kolo Touré to bag the 3pts.

Well there were no easy games this month, Os Guerreiros never managing more than a goal in any of its 5 matches. The pole position in the Primeira Liga has been maintained while there is still a lifeline in Europe with a last game to play at home.

Player of the month: it was decided between him and Fernandes who is also having a superb start of the season, but in the end with only 2 goals conceded in 5 close games and no less than 13 saves made, Valter nails the award with an average rating of 7.80. He salvaged the draw in Rome (and Espinho), without which Setubal would already be out of the Champions League.

troza
02-11-15, 02:55 PM
Is it the goals scored?

Well... good luck with your final match... it has been a hard group phase...

RuiEsteves
02-11-15, 04:12 PM
As I found later head-to-head results do not matter. It is decided on global goal average in the pool, and if tied, most goals scored in the pool.

RuiEsteves
02-11-15, 10:31 PM
Priority goes to the Champions League as Forbs rests no less than Touré, Coutinho, Fernandes, Bosingwa, Kaka and Pinto Neves for the trip to Chaves.

> Nov.3, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#10)
Chaves v Vitoria Setubal : 1-3 / goals: Joséto, Fihado (2) / assist: Claudio / MoM: Fihado
This mixed Setubal side overpower their hosts in an attractive attacking game, sub Fihado showing his class and efficiency in the 2nd half with two goals.

Viotoria seat pretty at the top of the Liga with a 6pts lead over challengers Maritimo. None of Os Tres Grandes are in the top5. Setubal’s defense is amazing with only 3 goals conceded, however the attack has been mediocre.


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Now is the home game against Bordeaux. Whatever Lazio achieve on their side against Rangers, Os Guerreiros need to do better.

> Nov.6, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 1 (#6)
Vitoria Setubal v Bordeaux : 3-1 / goals: Pinto Neves, Kaka, Paulito / assists: Bosingwa, Fihado, Kaka / MoM: Kaka
It’s been a real thriller tonight, all Sadinos fans being both watching the action in Bonfim and listening to the developments of the Lazio v Rangers match in Rome. At half-time, despite a dominating Vitoria, both games were tied at (0-0) and thus Lazio were still through on more goals scored in the competition. It all changed at the start of the second half when a superb Bosingwa set in the area Pinto Neves for a winning volley, soon followed by a marvelous combination which left the French defense rooted and had Kaka score a 2nd. When the Brazilian international hits form, there is not much stopping Os Guerreiros. All was not over yet as Lazio were now leading (1-0) at the Olimpico, but Setubal were ahead on better goal difference. Bordeaux, group leaders, were not going to die like that and Feindouno pounded a great header home – now Setubal and Lazio were on same goal diffence, the Portuguese champions only on top due to more goals scored… Paulito relieved everyone with a great long-range strike in the end for a much deserved victory, while Glasgow equalized in Italy.


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It was tense, there was suspens, exactly what a night of Champions League football should be all about and after a calamitous start in that pool, title holders Vitoria Setubal managed to qualify in the end as 2nd of the group after great wins in their last 2 games.


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Most other big teams went through to what should be a very tough Phase 2 which will include FC Porto. Sporting CP however, will continue in the UEFA Cup.

It’s time for a small break now with Round 4 of the Taça do Portugal, a competition dear to Tito’s heart. Lined-up against lower-league side Camacha, Forbs decides to field reserve players and manages to have 8 Academy players in his starting XI – a record since very ancient times of the club. Captained by Marco Tabuas, Jean-Ma, Claudio, Rosa, João, A. Ferreira, Antunes and Rock will play.

> Nov.11, 2012 / Taça do Portugal (Rnd.4)
Camacha v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2 (e.t.) / goals: João, Antunes / assists: Claudio, Alberto / MoM: Antunes
It’s fantastic to see the young Bonfim Academy lads playing together a game of professional football for Vitoria; they dominate and Antonio Ferreira for his debut has a goal refused for off-side before half-time. The hosts are brave and on 79’ they score from a superb header. True to their forebearers’ spirit, young Guerreiros fight back and rush in attack. 19yr-old João equalizes 2’ from the end and secures an extra-time. Marcio Jesus come in and also makes his debut, while at 97’ Paulo Antunes scores the winning goal. It was a hardly a great performance but to those kids it feels like having won a trophy!

Although Guimarães are a very dangerous side, Tito continues to prioritize the Champions League and rests Touré, Coutinho, Ednilson, Kaka and Pinto Neves.

> Nov.18, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#11)
Vitoria Setubal v Vit. Guimarães : 3-2 / goals: Tosa, Fernandes, Joséto / assists: Joséto, Paulito / MoM: Joséto
It all went wonderfully well in the first half, Os Guerreiros converting all their chances with a great opener from Tosa, a header by Fernandes following a superb cross from Paulito and a solo raid by hitman Joséto. The visitors showed what they were capable of in a 2nd half which they dominated, scoring twice by Miklos Feher and on the verge of equalizing several times. It was a weird game and somewhat of a fortunate victory.

troza
03-11-15, 10:40 AM
Great! Now go on to win the second champion's league!

RuiEsteves
03-11-15, 11:46 PM
It was always going to be a tough draw but this can hardly get any worse: powerhouse FC Barcelona, Italian champions (and Setubal’s nemesis) Inter Milan, the “minnows” being… English Premier League vice-champions Bristol City.


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The recent domination of Lazio has now set the record at (12-9) against Italian clubs. The clash against Inter will be the 6th of the kind!

It’s the first time Vitoria will encounter Bristol City; the record against English clubs is positive at (7-4), Forbs having always prevailed against them:

- 1968/69 – Newcastle United (3-1, 1-5) - UEFA Cup - ¼ final
- 1969/70 - Liverpool (1-0, 2-3) - UEFA Cup - Round 2
- 1970/71 - Leeds United (1-1, 1-2) - UEFA Cup - ¼ final
- 1972/73 - Tottenham Hotspur (2-1, 0-1) - UEFA Cup - ¼ final
- 1973/74 - Leeds United (3-1, 0-1) - UEFA Cup - Round 3
- 2003/04 - Leeds United (3-2, 1-0) - UEFA Cup - Round 4
- 2003/04 - Southampton (3-0, 3-0) - UEFA Cup - 1/2 final
- 2005/06 – Liverpool (3-0, 1-1) - Champions League – Phase 1
- 2009/10 – Manchester United (1-1, 2-0) - Champions League – Phase 1
- 2010/11 – Blackburn Rovers (0-1, 3-1) - Champions League – Phase 2
- 2011/12 – Liverpool (2-2, 3-1) - Champions League – Phase 1

Finally meeting FC Barcelona again (for the 6th time under Tito Forbs!) following last Champions League final in Paris, should be spectacular. Record against Spanish sides is very good at (8-3):

- 1974/75 - Real Zaragoza (1-1, 0-4) - UEFA Cup - Round 1
- 2004/05 - Real Betis Balompié (1-0, 0-2) - UEFA Cup - Round 1
- 2005/06 - Real Celta de Vigo (2-0, 3-0) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2005/06 - FC Barcelona (0-4, 3-2) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2007/08 - FC Barcelona (0-0, 0-0) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2008/09 - Real Madrid (3-2, 1-0) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2008/09 - FC Barcelona (3-0, 0-1) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2009/10 - Real Zaragoza (1-0, 1-0) - Champions League - Phase 1
- 2009/10 - FC Barcelona (1-3, 4-0) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2010/11 – Sevilla F.C. (0-0, 2-0) - Champions League - Phase 2
- 2011/12 - FC Barcelona (2-1) - Champions League - Final

RuiEsteves
03-11-15, 11:53 PM
Each game in Phase 2 was important, but the visit to Bristol who were supposedly the weaker side in the group, was arguably even more critical.

> Nov.21, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#1)
Bristol City v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2 / goals: Ednilson, Joséto / assist: Fihado / MoM: Fihado
The game was off to a flying start at Ashton Gate and it was the English who opened fire when captain Marvin Brown scored from an indirect freekick. After which the Champions League title holders confiscated the ball for the rest of the game, Fernandes in midfield being superb. They held siege to Bristol and wave after wave of attempts were either missed or brilliantly parried by keeper Gordon Browne who made a total of 12 saves! Pinto Neves and Kaka wasted truckload of chances and on the 80’ Tito subbed the latter with Joséto. This seemed to have an almost instant effect since on a freekick from an inspired Fihado, captain Ednilson levelled the score. Even if a draw may have seemed like a good result on paper, it was unacceptable given the gulf between both sides so Forbs ordered his boys to continue to attack at all costs… at the very last minute of over-time, following a heated situation in the area, young scavenger Joséto managed to put his foot where it mattered and scored the winner!


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Even though it was a very difficult result to achieve, Setubal’s domination impressed the rest of Europe. Meanwhile Barcelona secured a very important win in San Siro (0-2). Portugal FA had once again brilliantly arranged the schedule as Os Guerreiros now had to fly directly from the British Isles to… Madeira in the Atlantic, in a tough away game against Maritimo. Olembé, Touré and Coutinho instead flew back to Lisboa while Fernandes and Fihado would sit on the bench.

> Nov.23, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#12)
Maritimo v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0
It was a tired bunch of Guerreiros who took on the pitch – Paulito and Tosa (3-weeks) picking up injuries as a result. Both keepers held the fort in an entertaining but low quality game for a deserved draw in the end.

> Nov.30, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#13)
Vitoria Setubal v Farense : 3-0 / goals: Pinto Neves (2), Kaka / assists: Ouedraogo, Ednilson / MoM: Pinto Neves
The scoreline much flatters Vitoria who basically converted all their chances thanks in great part to an outstanding Pinto Neves, Barros having defended extremely well.

November looked like a key month in the season and it turned out a total success with 6 wins and 1 draw, including a narrow but heart-warming qualification in CL’s Phase 1 and a flying start in Phase 2.

Player of the month: having appeared in 4 games only this month, young Portuguese Fihado still made quite an impression with an average rating of 8.25 for 2 goa, 2 ass and 2 MoM. He gets the award thanks to his key contribution in both European games vs Bordeaux and Bristol City, and is more and more looking like a starter at AMC ahead of Tosa.

troza
04-11-15, 10:10 AM
You're doing well... who are you going to play in December for the Champion's league?

RuiEsteves
04-11-15, 12:29 PM
We have a game in Bonfim against our good friends from Inter Milan :-) in 7 games against them under Tito, we have only managed to score 1 goal... we really need to set the records straight with these guys.

troza
04-11-15, 02:55 PM
Just needed to know that. Those two first games... you just have to take advantage of the good momentum you're having with 3 straight wins at the champion's league. And don't underestimate the heart of the champions! :P

kuy
04-11-15, 11:21 PM
Great to see you beat Bristol City - I come from a Bristol Rovers family so anytime they lose, I'm happy! Going to be a tough Champions League group though, I hope you can put Inter in their place for once :ok:

RuiEsteves
05-11-15, 09:28 AM
@kuy: I'd better watch out not to meet Bristol Rovers in Europe then, otherwise I would risk losing one of my faithful readers ;-) mind you it is unlikely to happen since the Rovers are bottom of the English Third Division in 2012...

RuiEsteves
06-11-15, 12:57 AM
After a good start away in Bristol, the European Champions must make their mark on this year’s competition at home against Serie A title holders Inter Milan. Both sides have clashed 5 times under Tito Forbs (1W, 1D, 5L), the last one was a few months ago in the European Supercup and it was another defeat (0-1, e.t.) against a club who has become over the years Setubal’s worst nightmare.

> Dec.4, 2012 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#2)
Vitoria Setubal v Inter Milan : 3-1 / goals: Ednilson (pen.), Pinto Neves, Fernandes / assists: Pinto Neves, Ednilson, Barros / MoM: Ednilson
It’s a great European night in Bonfim and the crowd provides a lot of positive energy to their Guerreiros. Sure enough after 8’, Pinto Neves is tripped in the area and Ednilson converts (1-0): it could have not started any better! The first half is a long Portuguese domination, Setubal winning all their contests and pushing hard with a superb Humberto Barros on the left flank. Alas… the ghosts of the past resurface when on their sole strike at goal, Inter level the score by Ewerthon at 44’ (1-1), thus anihilating all the hosts’ efforts during 45’. Great players rally in the big games and legendary skipper Ednilson delivers an enormous 2nd half, setting up nicely Pinto Neves on 49’ (2-1) and later at 64’ Kaka for a sitter which is… parried by Marchisio. Inter are in the ropes and the local fans are chanting when CB Coloccini is booked for a second time and red-carded. Vitoria own the game in the last half-hour, there are plenty other chances and it is finally Fernandes which makes the victory even sweeter with a 3rd goal (3-1). What a demonstration of power against the much feared Nerazzurri!


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Those back-to-back wins mean Vitoria are off the a great start in this Phase 2, tied with Barça on 6pts while Inter and Bristol have lost twice. The bad spell against Inter has finally been broken!

> Dec.9, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#14)
Beira-Mar v Vitoria Setubal : 0-3 / goals: Fihado, Pinto Neves, Ednilson / assists: Kaka, Pinto Neves / MoM: Pinto Neves
A totally one-sided game in favour of Setubal, with an attacking trio of Fihado – Kaka - Pinto Neves on fire. Beira-Mar were outplayed from start to finish.

A few days before Christmas Setubal will play a competition which is dear to Tito Forbs’ heart as it is the last trophy he is yet to win with his beloved club – and it is also one of the most prestigious: the Intercontinental Cup, featuring the Champions League victor against the winner of South America’s Copa Libertadores. Most starters are therefore rested for the final Liga game before flying to Tokyo; Forbs fields 7 Academy players which is a record in his era for a Liga game: Jean-Ma, Paulito, João, Fernandes (c), Tosa, Antunes and Joséto.

> Dec.16, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#15)
Vitoria Setubal v Leiria : 1-0 / goal: Antunes / MoM: Paulito
Leiria who are bottom of the Liga so far, park the bus and wait for Setubal’s onslaughts. There will be several, including Fernandes hitting the post until Antunes finally scores at the hour. Little Bonfim prince Paulito is outstanding in midfield.

Still undefeated in the championship so far, Vitoria have built a nice lead at the top with 11pts over FC Porto and 15pts (!) over rivals Sporting CP.


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Off they were to Japan, where Vitoria Setubal would play their first ever official game outside of Europe. They would battle with the last winners of Copa Libertadores, one of the great Argentinian clubs – Independiente, who already had 6 finals of Intercontinental Cup for 2 victories: against Juventus in 1973 and Liverpool in 1984. Os Guerreiros had played thrice against sides from Argentina – during the 2005 World Championships – River Plate (1W, 1D) and Boca Juniors (1W).

> Dec.19, 2012 / Intercontinental Cup
Independiente v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Pinto Neves, Paulito / assists: Ednilson (2) / MoM: Ednilson
The Argies never stood a chance, utterly dominated by the Europeans from start to finish. In a way the game was somewhat of an anti-climax because it was too one-sided. Best players on Vitoria’s side were Ednilson and Pinto Neves. The only bad news of the night was Kolo Touré’s 3-months injury.


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Maybe even more so than his players, Tito was delighted to bring this specific, mythical trophy in Bonfim’s cabinet. He had now won them all : Primeira Liga, Taça do Portugal, Supertaça, Champions League, UEFA Cup, European Supercup, World Championship and Intercontinental Cup.

Following a short Christmas break with their families, Os Guerreiros play a last game late in December at home against a young and dangerous Campomaiorense who are surprising 3rd of the Liga.

> Dec.29, 2012 / Pr.Liga (#16)
Vitoria Setubal v Campomaiorense : 2-2 / goals: Fernandes, Kaka / assist: Ouedraogo / MoM: Ouedraogo
For one hour Vitoria are facing a wall of (good) defenders and fail to be dangerous; then pressure mounts but Romanian Radu Bar is having a great day between the sticks. Ednilson picks a slight knock and is subbed on 72’ and immediately, Vitoria’s midfield is disorganized and Campomaiorense obtain and convert a penalty-kick. Fernandes equalizes and as Os Guerreiros push hard during the spectacular last 10’, they are punished on 90’ when midfielder Julio Moreira finds the net on a counter-attack. It’s going to be a defeat at home… until Kaka heads a superb crossing from Ouedraogo in the back of the nets in the dying seconds of over-time.

A disappointing result at home but at least Setubal salvage their invincibility in the Liga. Overall it has been a splendid month of December with 4 wins and 1 draw, a great victory over Inter and the prestigious Intercontinental Cup now on display in Bonfim! The only bad news is the one-month injury picked by Bocas.

Player of the month: without a single doubt and for the second time this season, the award goes to captain Ednilson who managed an average rating of 8.75 over 4 games - for 2 goa, 3 ass and 2 MoM. The legendary midfielder has in particular been named MoM for his stellar game vs Inter and for the Intercontinental Final – what a contribution to Setubal’s glory, once again.

troza
06-11-15, 10:02 AM
And you're off to just dominate everything :) Great result vs Inter!

RuiEsteves
06-11-15, 10:05 PM
Normally Tito Forbs does not do that. He has a huge squad of 40 players. His left-back position is well covered with Salomon Olembé and Humberto Barros, Nigerian Solomon as back-up and Rahim Ouedraego although he is in his last year of contract, as additional depth for both flanks. It is more than enough. But when his faithful scout Pedro Figueiredo showed him videos of this young Brazilian U21 international, the old coach was gobsmacked. He knew he was a future all-star of the sport and when his transfer to Benfica capsized because of non-EU recruits limit, he knew he had to sign Cleiton on a Bosman from Vasco de Gama.


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It was exciting to have such talent. The 5th Brazilian of the squad after Marajo, Kaka, Oliveisa and Humberto Barros. Assistant coach Rui Lopes would be tasked to see if he was ready to add some versatility to his skills by training him to also cover the right flank, as this side of the defense was much more depleted especially with Kolo Touré’s 3-months injury.

Note to readers: guess whose regen he is?....

kuy
07-11-15, 01:26 AM
Surely Roberto Carlos? I think you've done the right thing in signing him even though you didn't need a new left back - surely he'll be the world's best for the next decade!

Great to see you smash Inter and pick up the Intercontinental Cup - Ednilson MotM in both! :hail: A great lead in the league already too, maybe that means Forbs has a chance to give some of the youngsters some more game time?

BobMem
07-11-15, 09:43 AM
Congratulations on the Intercontinental Cup! :first:

Roberto Carlos regen looks awesome.

RuiEsteves
07-11-15, 03:21 PM
@kuy, BobMem: well done indeed, it's Roberto Carlos regen. He's a thing of beauty.

RuiEsteves
07-11-15, 07:31 PM
The New Year starts with another easy away Cup game, Tito fielding the exact same “Academy side” who had previously won in Camacha.

> Jan.6, 2013 / Taça do Portugal (Rnd.5)
Estrela de Lagos v Vitoria Setubal : 0-4 / goals: João, Antunes, A.Ferreira, Ouedraogo / assists: Gama, João (2), Rock / MoM: João
This time it was a much easier game which the young guns easily won; while Antonio Ferreira scored his 1st ever goal, one player stood out with a perfect copy of 1 goal, 2 assists and MoM: João. The only bad news of the evening is Antonio Cruz 1-month injury.

> Jan.11, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#17)
Vitoria Setubal v Leixões : 1-1 / goal: Pinto Neves / assist: Fernandes
The injury crisis continues and this time it hit Valter after only 7’ (out 3-weeks), and Fihado at 31’ (out 3-months). The game itself was uninspiring, Leixões having travelled to defend. Pinto Neves managed a goal in the first half, but Setubal got softer in the 2nd half and in the very last second, Marco Tabuas made a mistake in the air which enabled Miguel Cunha to equalize.

The second consecutive draw and at home in the Liga, for a very disappointing performance overall – although Setubal’s 22-games unbeaten streak this season continues. Valter, Touré, Bocas and Fihado are all injured for the trip to the Açores.

> Jan.20, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#18)
Santa Clara v Vitoria Setubal : 0-3 / goals: Kaka, Ednilson (pen.), Joséto / assists: Olembé, Fernandes, Antunes / MoM: Barros
Os Guerreiros play a determined game, leaving no chance to their hosts. 3 goals in total for a great victory and an impressive Humberto Barros at central-back in the absence of Bocas.

> Jan.23, 2013 / Taça do Portugal (Rnd.6)
Maritimo v Vitoria Setubal : 0-3 / goals: Pinto Neves (3) / assists: Ouedraogo, Cleiton / MoM: Pinto Neves
For an hour Os Guerreiros play wonderful football, dominating in all areas and scoring 3 goals thanks to an amazing hat-trick from Pinto Neves. Cleiton made his first appearance.

> Jan.27, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#19)
Salgueiros v Vitoria Setubal : 1-5 / goals: Pinto Neves (2), Tosa, Ednilson (2) / assists: Tosa, Cleiton (2), Pinto Neves / MoM: Pinto Neves
Another stunning performance from Setubal who just score almost every time they got a chance in that game. With a solid Barros in defense and an inspired Tosa upfront, the oustanding performers are once again Pinto Neves and Ednilson with a double each.

Besides a home draw v Leixões, the other four games of the month were all away and all impressive victories. Setubal is on a roll.

Player of the month: it was about time that he would start to bang in goals like a machine as he usually does; it seems Pinto Neves is back at his best with an average rating of 8.50 over 4 games - for 6 goa, 1 ass and 2 MoM. This can only be good news ahead of the big European games.

troza
09-11-15, 11:24 AM
Well... just call it a day in the portuguese league... you will win easily the way you're playing!

RuiEsteves
09-11-15, 10:20 PM
I've never had the league so easy. My Academy team would be a serious title contender I think.

kuy
10-11-15, 01:32 AM
I've never had the league so easy. My Academy team would be a serious title contender I think.

Only one way to find out! ;)

troza
10-11-15, 01:59 PM
I've never had the league so easy. My Academy team would be a serious title contender I think.

Just don't be overconfident for the future... the league is easy unless in certain years, where the computer just makes you loose games after games due to super goalkeepers and stuff... but that is, usually, something that you overcome by making some small changes.

RuiEsteves
10-11-15, 09:36 PM
Just don't be overconfident for the future... the league is easy unless in certain years, where the computer just makes you loose games after games due to super goalkeepers and stuff... but that is, usually, something that you overcome by making some small changes.
Yeah thanks, we will see. I don't really score more points than in the previous years, but what has changed is that neither Sporting nor Porto are able to throw the gauntlet at me like they used to. They lose soft games and lots of points early on. And for the time being no other team is stepping up.

RuiEsteves
10-11-15, 10:04 PM
It’s 4 defeats in a row for Sporting CP vs Setubal, the last one (0-1) at the Alvalade in September 2012 having been cruel, such was Os Sadinos superiority. The Lisboa side will want to get something from this game, if it is not to get any hopes for the title it would at least be to salvage some pride.

> Feb.2, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#20)
Vitoria Setubal v Sporting CP : 2-2 / goals: Kaka, Pinto Neves / assists: Fernandes (2) / MoM: Fernandes
The visitors storm out on the pitch and start strong, Marco Tabuas being nervous in goal and following a crossbar by the ever-dangerous Marius Niculae, Vicente opens fire (0-1). The champions react immediately as Fernandes delivers a great pass for Kaka who equalizes (1-1). Os guerreiros push, Tosa clipping the post on 25’, before collecting a 2nd YC which means he walks out! this really is a major blow, and although Vitoria finish very strongly the first half with Pinto Neves dribbling past 3 defenders and seeing his shot parried by Petr Cech, they know this game will now be tough to win. The 2nd half will prove this right, as on 51’ Niculae goes past no less than Barros and Bocas for a superb goal (1-2). Sporting play really well now and on 66’, they combine and Vicente sees his great chance saved by Tabuas. But Setubal fight until the end and at 76’, a quiet Pinto Neves finally converts another service from Fernandes. It was tight until the end, and a deserved draw!


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It is a disappointing draw in Bonfim, nevertheless Setubal’s position in the table remains extremely solid.


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Vitoria were handed a rather favourable Cup quarter-final in Bonfim vs bottom of Primeira Liga side Leira. Tito won’t take any chances.

> Feb.6, 2013 / Taça do Portugal (quarter-final)
Vitoria Setubal v Leiria : 3-0 / goals: Kaka, Pinto Neves (2) / assists: Olembé, Nélson Veiga, Kaka / MoM: Pinto Neves
Leiria were never going to get any chance in that game; Olembé, Coutinho and Ednilson shine but the awards go to Pinto Neves and Kaka for stellar performances.

With such a lead in the Liga and Barça visiting Bonfim 3 days later, Forbs fields a B-side to face Espinho. Valter is captain while 6 Academy players start.

> Feb.9, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#21)
Vitoria Setubal v Espinho : 1-0 / goal: Joséto / assist: João / MoM: Paulito
Once again the young Academy guns play very well and utterly dominate the visiting side, with an impressive Cleiton. But they are clumsy in front of the goals and Joséto only manages to score at 79’ following a great service by João. The class of playmaker Paulito was obvious and Bonfim fans adore the young local lad.

And it is FC Barcelona time again. It’s the 9th game between both sides (all under Tito Forbs), the last one was the now legendary Champions League Final in Paris in May 2012 (2-1 for Setubal). Crushing the Spanish league this season yet again, the Catalans remain a wonder-team and have added Arjen Robben to their starting line-up compared to last year…

> Feb.12, 2013 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#3)
Vitoria Setubal v FC Barcelona : 1-0 / goal: Tosa / assist: Joséto
It’s a tight first half, both teams being cautious. Although Pinto Neves’ first shot at 2’ is dangerous, it is Barça with Xavi who have the first great chance on 20’ – parried by Valter. Os Guerreiros push a little more in the second half and young Paulo Antunes brilliantly dribbles past 3 defenders but sees his attempt parried by the keeper. On 77’ as young Tosa and Joséto come from the bench to shake things up, Haruna Babagida powers a volley under the crossbar – but Valter once again parries into corner. And on the ensuing counter-attack, Joséto deflects for Tosa who goes one-on-one against the goalkeeper and chips it beautifully into the nets, scoring his most important goal to date: it’s the match winner!


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It’s a big step towards qualification – it would have even been better had Inter not won in Bristol (0-1). It’s so comfortable in the Liga that Tito can afford to send his “Academy team” to play the always tricky trip to the Restelo.

> Feb.17, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#22)
Belenenses v Vitoria Setubal : 0-3 / goals: Joséto (2), A.Ferreira / assists: Paulito (2) / MoM: Paulito
It all goes very quick and after an incredible half-hour, the young Guerreiros are alreay up by 3 goals with a double from Joséto and an oustanding Paulito in midfield. The second half will be less rosy and the hosts utterly dominate, creating plenty of chances all parried by a great Valter.

Barça will want to set the records straights at the Camp Nou after 3 consecutive defeats against Setubal. A human wall of Catalan fans greet the Portuguese outside the tunnel….

> Feb.20, 2013 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#4)
FC Barcelona v Vitoria Setubal : 3-1 / goal: Ednilson / assist: Olembé
It’s an incredible start to the game as within 10’, following 2 superb phases of play, Barça completely destabilize the normally rock-solid Portuguese defense and Brazilian Emerson scores twice. However Os Guerreiros react immediately with Ednilson pounding a cross from Olembé into the nets (2-1). But the Catalans really are too strong; Xavi sees his great chance parried by Valter on 19’, but finds the nets just before half-time with a superb long-range shot. The 2nd half will be more balanced with fewer chances – although Paulo Antunes sees his free-kick just tipped wide by Abbiati, and Gaston Fernandez after cruising past 4 helpless defenders loses his duel against Valter. It's a defeat, the 3rd of the season.
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Time to re-focus on the Liga; a trip to Estadio da Luz is hardly scary anymore, with Benfica sitting 13th in the table and Vitoria having lost only twice in 13 games there under Tito Forbs. Rahim Ouedraogo picks a 1-month injury at training, further depleting the right-back position.

> Feb.27, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#23)
Benfica v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Kaka (2) / assists: Pinto Neves (2) / MoM: Kaka
Benfica are an inferior side and won’t really manage to much challenge Setubal during the match. Victory is sealed in the first half, with Pinto Neves setting up twice Kaka for a nice double.

5W, 1D, 1L for the 7 games played in February. A good month all in all, with a strengthened Liga position and a great home win against Barça in Europe.

Player of the month: it’s good to have him back at his best level as Brazilian star-forward Kaka takes the award for the first time this season, managing an average rating of 8.00 over 5 games - for 4 goa, 1 ass and 1 MoM. His contribution was particularly appreciated in the games against Sporting CP and Benfica.

kuy
10-11-15, 11:36 PM
Good win against Barca, shame about the return match. Going nicely in the league too :ok:

What does the Champions League table look like now?

RuiEsteves
10-11-15, 11:45 PM
What does the Champions League table look like now?
Barça, Setubal - 9pts
Inter - 6pts
Bristol - 0pt

Remaining to be played: Setubal v Bristol / Barça v Inter / Inter v Setubal / Bristol v Barça

troza
11-11-15, 04:39 PM
Well... you just have to win against Bristol :P

RuiEsteves
11-11-15, 09:08 PM
3 days before a CL game and having it so easy in the Liga, Tito rests all of his starters but two – Valter and Ednilson.

> Mar.2, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#24)
Académica v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Joséto / assist: A.Ferreira / MoM: Joséto
Well it was not a great game but Valter managed to save his goals and Joséto found the nets, which is enough for the 3 points. Six Academy players started.

Bristol City, a good side filled with English U21 players, are the minnows of the pool having lost all 4 games so far. A win at home for Vitoria and qualification will be almost in the pocket – depending on how Inter perform in the Camp Nou…

> Mar.5, 2013 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#5)
Vitoria Setubal v Bristol City : 0-0 / MoM: Ednilson
Any team can have an off-day and this was the case for Setubal. The first half is just terrible, the first shot towards goal being made at the… 37’. The English realize they could upset the champions here and twice before the hour mark, Valter is forced to double-saves on their strikers. On 66’ though, it is Kaka who is inches from scoring but Browne parries twice. Marvin Brown attempts a splendid long-range shot (35-yards) which hits the woodwork and despite Ednilson’s efforts, it is the visitors who have the last great chance with Stevens in over-time, a great Valter saving the day!

What a tough game and a disappointing result, and it gets worse when the word spreads in the stands: the Nerazzurri have upset the great Barça in their temple (1-3)! FC Barcelona will travel to England and will be favourites to take the 3 pts, while Setubal’s fate will once again be decided in the Lombardian capital city.


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3 days before the decisive game at San Siro and with such a huge lead in the Championship, Tito fields a mixed team to host FC Porto – most starters being rested. Vitoria have not lost in 8 consecutive games against their northern rivals.

> Mar.10, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#25)
Vitoria Setubal v FC Porto : 1-0 / goal: Joséto / assist: Fernandes / MoM: Fernandes
It’s a completely one-sided game against a defensive FC Porto. On 21’ Cleiton pounds a free-kick on the post and on 36’, captain Fernandes sets Joséto for a clean goal. Young João almost doubles before half-time. In the second half, the Portistas resort to foul play and are booked no less than 7 times – with Brazilians Pedro Neto (53’) and Moacir Ramos (90’) collecting a second YC which means they finish the game 9 v 11. It’s yet another rather easy victory in the Liga for Os Guerreiros.

Still unbeaten after 25 games, Setubal’s lead is enormous now with +18pts on Sporting CP. The club really has no rivals anymore in the Primeira Liga.


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Well here we go. San Siro. In 3 visits in this stadum against Inter Milan in the past, Setubal has neither won nor scored a single goal; and 2 years ago they got their worst humbling (1-6) on that same pitch against AC Milan. A draw would see Os Guerreiros through and although they will be without Bocas (suspended), Touré, Fihado and Ouedraogo (injured), they are the champions and want to make it clear tonight.

> Mar.13, 2013 / Champions League, Phase 2 (#6)
Inter Milan v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0
Vitoria play a good, solid first half. On 6’ following a crossing from Cruz, Pinto neves canons a volley on the crossbar! and on 33’, Antonio Cruz again heads the ball into the nets… but Marchisio saves. The 2nd half will be a different story though. The fans get wild and the home side push hard, with Casas shooting just above on 62’ and Valter being forced to two saves on 68’ and 81’. Finally in the dying seconds, Spanish striker Gaston Angel Casas dribbles past 4 defenders and is free to score… 82k fans stand-up and hold their breath… and the young Portuguese keeper who had shipped 6 goals 24 months ago and been ridiculed, makes a life-saving dive to parry the ball into corner. What a hero. Setubal are in the quarters.

It was tense, until the very end and just like in Phase 1, Os Guerreiros just squeeze through and qualify for the Champions League quarter-finals. With FC Barcelona who top the group, having won in Bristol (1-2).

A few big names are now out of the competition: PSV Eindhoven, Aston Villa, Manchester United, FC Porto, Inter Milan

Finished 1st of their groups: Liverpool FC, Celtic Glasgow, Girondins Bordeaux, FC Barcelona
Finished 2nd of their groups: Real Madrid, Lille Olympique, Bayern München, Vitoria Setubal

> Mar.17, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#26)
Farense v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0
Although Farense is 3rd in the table, they are being dominated and pushed all game long on their home turf. Yet, despite many attempts, Setubal don’t manage a goal and have to settle for the draw.

Valter, Coutinho, Bocas, Fernandes and Pinto Neves all play and contribute to the great qualifying run of the Seleção towards World Cup 2014.

With the CL quarter-finals 3 days later, Tito sends his reserve side to travel to bottom of the table Alverca for whom relegation seems certain.

> Mar.31, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#27)
Alverca v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Oliveisa / assist: Antunes / MoM: Oliveisa
Alverca host the European champions and give it all they can, nullifying the efforts of the young Guerreiros in the 1st half. Vitoria create chances in the 2nd and finally score by Oliveisa on the 86’.

Well it has been a weird month, with 3W and 3D, only 3 goals scored but none conceded. The Liga matters little now, so what was critical was to qualify for the CL quarter-finals and altough it was tough, in the end it is objective accomplished.

Player of the month: with no goal conceded the entire month (and only 3 scored…) it was logical that the award went to keeper Valter, whom it is really nice to have back from injury. He played all 6 games and managed an average rating of 7.67. Keeping a clean sheet in San Siro, 2 years after his epic meltdown vs AC Milan (1-6), was crucial for the CL qualification.

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Well... you just have to win against Bristol :P
correct... but that was easier said that done it seems, we had an awful game that day!

RuiEsteves
11-11-15, 11:05 PM
It's time for the Champions League quarter-finals draw in which Vitoria will take part for the 6th time in their History. Their adversaries are auld acquaintances: Celtic Glasgow against whom it will be the 5th clash in the competition - a side who eliminated Setubal in the 2008 semi-finals.


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Their squad is filled with superstars but Tito can comfort himself with the club positive record against Scottish sides at 4-2.

kuy
12-11-15, 12:43 AM
Good to get through, shame you couldn't win against City to top the group but you, Inter and Barcelona all seemed evenly matched. It's knockout football now, anything can happen!

troza
12-11-15, 10:09 AM
Well, you didn't win against Bristol but you won against Inter. Better for you!

RuiEsteves
12-11-15, 11:07 AM
We did beat Inter in Bonfim (3-1) but our home draw vs Bristol (0-0) forced us to a cut-throat game in San Siro (0-0) which we were inches from losing in the second half...

Anyway, we are through and that is all that matters!

RuiEsteves
12-11-15, 10:21 PM
It’s a crucial away leg at Celtic Park where only once before, 4 years ago, Vitoria had finally managed to win. Celtic Glasgow remain a European powerhouse with names such as Mickaël Landreau, Sebastian Kehl, John Terry, Steven Gerrard, Pablo Aimar, Michael Owen or Matthew Piper. Coutinho is showing signs of fatigue, he may have played too much between club and Seleção – Jean-Ma starts at CB. It’s a dry but unsually cold (-1°C) day in Scotland which may advantage the locals…

> Apr.3, 2013 / Champions League, Quarter-Final (leg.1)
Celtic Glasgow v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1 / goal: Tosa / assist: Kaka / MoM: Jean-Ma
Unimpressed by the crowd and very cold weather, the champions start the game well with Kaka grazing the crossbar in the opening minutes. On 20’ Bosingwa is harshly tackled and walks-out, injured; on the ensuing free-kick, Kaka finds Tosa’s header and… it’s the opener, GOOOOOOL! (0-1). Until the end of the first half, Vitoria push; Kaka shoots just over on 37’ while Barros sees his header parried by Landreau on 39’ and on 42’, the French keeper saves again a superb volley from Pinto Neves. Michael Owen skims the crossbar just before half-time but all in all it’s been a Portuguese first half. The Scots will play a little better in the 2nd half, with Matthew Taylor hitting the post on 58’, but they never really are in a position to pierce the CB pair of Jean-Ma and Bocas. On 81’ Ednilson goes past 3 defenders and… misses the easiest part. A rare fact, Setubal’s midfield has under-performed in this game (Ednilson rated 5, Fernandes 6). It’s a much deserved and important victory in the end.


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What a great game and a superb result this is for Setubal. Meanwhile Barça impress Europe as they go on rampage in Grimomprez-Jooris (0-6)!! Tito continues with his rotation policy in the Liga and fields a mixed team to face Maritimo in Bonfim.

> Apr.7, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#28)
Vitoria Setubal v Maritimo : 1-0 / goal: Tosa / assist: Antunes / MoM: Gama
Another tight and rough game for the “Academy” side who although solid, struggle to create chances. Fortunately Tosa finds the nets on 50’ while José Maria Gama proves he’s worth it at CB.

It’s another clean sheet for Valter and his defense, the 9th consecutive! now is the away Taça do Portugal semi-final in Campomaiorense who are having a good season (5th in the Liga) and will be desperate to cause an upset and reach the Cup’s final. Tito fields his best possible XI.

> Apr.10, 2013 / Taça do Portugal (Semi-Final)
Campomaiorense v Vitoria Setubal : 1-3 / goals: Kaka, Pinto Neves, Ednilson (pen.) / assists: Ednilson (2), Antunes / MoM: Ednilson
It’s a great and totally crazy Cup semi-final played in the small town of Campomaiorense. Os Guerreiros decide to play free-flowing attacking football and take the score early on with a magnificent Ednilson in midfield. But the locals claw one back and fight. Things turn sour in the 2nd half with 2 red-cards to Campomaiorense including one for the keeper who milks a penalty for the (1-3), while Kolo Touré is booked a 2nd time and also sent out at 62’. Setubal are through to the final but what a game, with 3 red and 7 yellow cards…!


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Vitoria Setubal have qualified for their 17th Taça do Portugal final (8W, 8L so far) and it will be the 3rd of the kind against FC Porto (who have prevailed 2-0 over Sporting CP in the other semi-final) – the previous two were won by the Portistas in 1968 and 2009. This semi-final has taken its toll though, with an exhausted Coutinho who needs to be put off training and is granted a one-week break by the coach, while… Fihado has just gotten injured again, this time for 2-weeks.

On Friday April 12th, Sporting CP who are 2nd of the table, lose out (2-0) in Beira-Mar who are last and already relegated. This means that, with 6 games in hand, Vitoria Setubal are crowned for the 6th consecutive time (an all-time record) Portuguese Champions!!! this is incredible, never had any of the 8 Primeira Liga titles won by the club under Tito Forbs been so easy. The venerable coach can now safely continue to rotate his squad and field the younger players for the 6 remaining fixtures…

> Apr.14, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#29)
Vit. Guimarães v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Joséto (2) / assist: João / MoM: Joséto
It really is a reserves side filled with young Academy players such as Claudio, Rosa, João or A.Ferreira. They start well with a quick goal after 10’ by hitman Joséto. But will struggle for the rest of the evening against a good Guimarães, captain Valter managing yet another clean sheet and Joséto adding another goal on a deadly counter-attack at 69’. Setubal win again!

Setubal have beaten their own previous record and are now 35-games unbeaten in the Primeira Liga; what a performance. While José Maria Gama picks a 3-weeks injury, Coutinho still cannot play vs Celtic, he remains tired and in need of a rest. Jean-Ma replaces him at CB like he did in San Siro and Celtic Park. Bosingwa is also out and Paulito steps-in for him in midfield. Setubal have won the first leg and have an edge, but they better be cautious as the Scottish side will come out all guns blazing, trying to take Fortaleza Bonfim after 3 losses here in the past… on the other hand, Vitoria are unbeaten at home since the 29th of January 2012!

> Apr.17, 2013 / Champions League, Quarter-Final (leg.2)
Vitoria Setubal v Celtic Glasgow : 1-1 / goal: Tosa / assist: Paulito / MoM: Bocas
Celtic start cautiously and Vitoria are the first in action when Pinto Neves finds the side-nets on the 9’. However on 23’ Glasgow show their class when Pablo Aimar delivers a sublime pass for Michael Owen free in the area who shoots… oh he hits the post! Minutes later Valter is forced to a save on a corner-kick. It’s tense. On 36’ Academy player Tosa works well on the left and strikes from 20 yards… GOOOOOOOOL! It’s in, it’s (1-0). This was a Paulito-Tosa combination on the left side, they both are local lads and best pals outside the pitch. The game remains balanced and Celtic are dangerous on 61’ as Valter parries a header from Kiriwn. However on 73’, Michael Owen silences the stands as he slots the ball underneath the young keeper for the equalizer (1-1). One more goal for Glasgow and they are through; but Setubal are an experienced side and they will control the last 20’ with a superb Bocas towering in the back, and are never really in danger.
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> Apr.20, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#30)
Vitoria Setubal v Beira-Mar : 3-0 / goals: Antunes, Tosa (2) / assists: Ednilson, Coutinho, Pinto Neves / MoM: Tosa
Tito sends a mixed team who easily prevail over bottom of the Liga Beira-Mar, with very good performances from Ednilson, Tosa and Paulo Antunes.

With 5W and 1D, April 2013 has been an outstanding month with yet another Primeira Liga title, a qualification for the Cup’s final and the Champions League semi-finals! Time to deliver further in May…

Player of the month: for the first time ever the award goes to Academy forward Tosa, who has scored in each of the 4 games he was involved in, including twice againt Celtic at home and away. He managed an average rating of 8.00, for 5 goa, 1 MoM. A superb performance for the young gun.

kuy
12-11-15, 11:55 PM
Tosa having a great month there, key goals! How is Cleiton doing so far? Is he in the 'best XI' or does he turn out for the Academy side?

RuiEsteves
13-11-15, 12:16 AM
Tosa having a great month there, key goals! How is Cleiton doing so far? Is he in the 'best XI' or does he turn out for the Academy side?
Yeah Tosa is neither a serial scorer nor a brilliant player, but he works hard, has flair and scores important goals. Cleiton is doing great already. He plays with the "Academy side" so far, out of respect for Salomon Olembé and Humberto Barros who have been the starting left-backs for the past 6 seasons. But this may change next year!

RuiEsteves
14-11-15, 01:22 AM
It’s time for the semi-final draw. If anything, avoiding Barça would be Tito’s wish since they have already clashed in Phase 2 and would make for a great final. Alas it will be…

- FC Barcelona v Vitoria Setubal

- FC Bayern v Real Madrid

Which means the team is back at the Camp Nou for the first leg. They will have to do better than last defeat (1-3) a few weeks ago if they want to have a chance to defend their title in the final. Only Fihado is still out injured for Setubal; the Catalans however will be without Julio Arca, Achim Pohl and Haruna Babangida (all injured). Tito is able to field a full strength side.

> May.1, 2013 / Champions League, Semi-Final (leg.1)
FC Barcelona v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0
Forbs is cautious but so is Louis van Gaal as after 30’ neither team has attempted a shot at goal, while Kolo Touré has made several great come-back tackles. Things heat up a little before half-time with a few chances off-target for both sides, but overall it’s been a very tight and disappointing first 45’. The Catalans will take control in the 2nd half, without over-exposing themselves. On 50’ Gaston Fernandez grazes the crossbar and on 57’ Cristian Chivu powers a free-kick on the post! it seemed unavoidable and on 70’ Brazilian Emerson is set in acres of space and fires Valter from close range for the opener!! (1-0). Os Guerreiros will get one, only one single chance to equalize and turn the table: on the 82’ in-form forward Tosa gets a good ball in the area following a nice combination… alas Abbiati parries and the Champions conceded defeat.


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It’s a poor result, hardly better than the previous trip to the Camp Nou (1-3), with no away goal scored. Maybe Tito lacked ambitions and should have taken more risks. Everything remains open though for the return leg.

> May.6, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#31)
Vitoria Setubal v Santa Clara : 1-0 / goal: Marajo / assist: Oliveisa / MoM: Claudio
The young Academy guns struggle to be dangerous against a very defensive Santa Clara side who will nevertheless find the post once. In the end though, Marajo heads the ball home on 88’, while Claudio is named MoM for the 1st time in his career and 18-year old Ricardo Luis makes his 1st ever pro appearance.

Unfortunately Paulito has picked a 3-weeks injury during the game and won’t be able to sit on the bench for the CL semi-final return leg. Bonfim is boiling like an oven before receiving the great Barça; (0-1) in Catalunia really is not a great result as that Barcelona side can score any time, anywhere; yet they have taken their fair share of spankings in the Portuguese Fortaleza before and will be without Arca, Chivu, Metzelder, Hofland and Pohl – all injured. Forbs starts Salomon Olembé on the left flank to add some offensive knout.

> May.8, 2013 / Champions League, Semi-Final (leg.2)
Vitoria Setubal v FC Barcelona : 0-2
Barcelona start cautiously and leave posession to Setubal; on 19’ following a superb play, Ednilson is through and will score… oh no, Abbiati what a save!! Os Guerreiros continue to push with Pinto Neves shooting inches wide on the 29’ – while Arjen Robben is also close at 43’ on a counter-attack. On 46’ Ednilson finds Tosa who fires, but the Italian keeper saves one more time. Fihado subs an injured Tosa at half-time. Forbs still kicks himself for being too passive in Barcelona, he orders his lads to attack during the 2nd half. This will prove fatal. On two chances only Barça will kill the game – Gaston Fernandez pouding a header on 49’ first, and Saviola dribbling past Bocas and scoring on 61’. It’s all over, Vitoria fight until the end but Barça were too solid and deadly effective.
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Well… FC Barcelona were too clinical and determined for Vitoria to really be able to turn the table and upset the odds like last year’s final. They did have the chances though and showed they were worthy challengers, but in the end the aggregate score (0-3) is harsh for the title holders. Next year maybe…

A few weeks later, Barça travel to Amsterdam as hot favourites for the Final against FC Bayern München… and after a tight game, end up losing (1-2) to the German giants who win back the trophy for the 5th time and 12 years after their last success. FC Barcelona on their side are cursed; they’ve just lost their 3rd consecutive CL final, and the 6th in 9 years for only 1 title!


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kuy
14-11-15, 06:52 PM
Wow, Barcelona really seem to bottle it in finals! Shame you couldn't get past them - it looks like over the two legs you were evenly matched at least, but Valter let in every shot on his goal in both matches...

Baron Zbimg
14-11-15, 11:22 PM
Just caught up. A very good season all in all. Cleiton looks fantastic. Looking forward to the round up. How is Bruno Melo doing ?


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RuiEsteves
15-11-15, 10:04 AM
Wow, Barcelona really seem to bottle it in finals! Shame you couldn't get past them - it looks like over the two legs you were evenly matched at least, but Valter let in every shot on his goal in both matches...
Barcelona's poor run in CL finals is quite something indeed, cannot think of any equivalent in RL. We did struggle in the first leg of the semi, the number of shots does not say it all as we lost most of our contests and the posession battle, made a wild shot at goal and in truth had only one real chance of the entire game (Tosa, 82'). I won't hold grudges against Valter for Emerson's goal, the Brazilian striker was set in acres of space and it was one-on-one. The second leg was more of a disappointment as indeed, we dominated the game in Bonfim for entire periods. Saviola's goal (their second, 61') is again not Valter's fault as the Argentinian striker dribbled past the entire defense (including rock-solid Bocas) to go one-on-one; but our young keeper could indeed have done better on the opener by Fernandez (49'), a header from an indirect free-kick. Overall Valter had once again a very good season for us.

We have played 4 games in the CL this season against the Catalans (1W, 3L) and frankly I cannot say that we were a better side than them. They had already outplayed us in last year's CL Final so they will continue to be an issue for us in the years to come. They do have quite a lot of key players beyond 30 (Puyol, Burdisso, Xavi, Gerard, Saviola, Emerson) but they all should have a couple of great seasons under the belt before a new generation takes over.

Baron Zbimg
15-11-15, 10:21 AM
Juventus, my favourite club, has only won 2 Champions League / European Cups and lost 6 finals, but this is their all-time record. Nothing close to what happens here with Barca comes to mind ...
PS : Benfica is just a bit better but also has a terrible European Cup final record, winning 2 and losing 5.


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RuiEsteves
15-11-15, 10:23 AM
Just caught up. A very good season all in all. Cleiton looks fantastic. Looking forward to the round up. How is Bruno Melo doing ?

Good to have you back on the thread Baron! yes it's been a great season but it ain't over yet, we still have a Taça do Portugal Final to play! Your favourite player Ednilson has continued to over-perform, he's astonishing.

Do you have some sort of sixth sense? Bruno Melo will be in the news this summer, just be a little patient...

He left us 3 years ago and has done superbly well since. First with the Seleção which he has continued to captain, earning 21 more caps for 4 goals and 10 assists. Euro 2012 was a huge disappointment but he is hoping to take them to a great 2014 World Cup (he will then be 32).

He played 2 seasons with AC Milan, being their playmaker and winning the Serie A in the first year:
- 2010/11: 28 app - 3 goa, 5 ass / 7.39
- 2011/12: 34 app - 4 goa, 2 ass, 1 MoM / 7.18

Then moved on to Real Madrid for a transfer-fee of £11.25m where he played last season, being one of their best players and winning the Spanish Supercup:
- 2012/13: 44 app - 7 goa, 16 ass, 1 MoM / 7.23

And as it turns out, the Casa Blanca have accepted a £12.75m bid so he is on the move again!

RuiEsteves
15-11-15, 10:26 AM
Juventus, my favourite club, has only won 2 Champions League / European Cups and lost 6 finals, but this is their all-time record. Nothing close to what happens here with Barca comes to mind ...
PS : Benfica is just a bit better but also has a terrible European Cup final record, winning 2 and losing 5.

Yes you are right, both these clubs have dreadful CL finals records... Benfica are even supposedly cursed by the coach who took them to European glory in the 60's. Benfica are probably worse than Juve as I think they have lost more European finals (Europa League recently) while Juve have won each of the three European cups and must have a good record in C2/C3 finals...

Don't know if you follow rugby at all but in France we have one of our top clubs - AS Clermont-Auvergne - who had managed 10 domestic finals over a century losing them all, which was according to the journos possibly the worst world-record for a top professional side in finals of their sport. They finally broke the spell winning the trophy in 2010, and have since lost one more final which means their win/loss ratio is now 1/11 (!!). In European Cup finals they are also following a similar trend with 2 finals lost for no win already.

Baron Zbimg
15-11-15, 11:05 AM
How could I not think about Clermont ??? Yes of course Montferrand then Clermont were the worst, each time with great teams. PS: I'm french ;)


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RuiEsteves
15-11-15, 11:10 AM
How could I not think about Clermont ??? Yes of course Montferrand then Clermont were the worst, each time with great teams. PS: I'm french ;)

j'avais deviné ;-)

Juventus, is it because of Platini? I also have a soft spot for them since the 80's when as a kid I used to watch his goals and assists with the Old Lady on Sunday afternoons tv programs...

Baron Zbimg
15-11-15, 11:11 AM
No it's because my dad and all his family are Italian ... And Juventus fans ...


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RuiEsteves
15-11-15, 11:14 AM
No it's because my dad and all his family are Italian ... And Juventus fans ...

Ah it makes even more sense then! they're a great club, very well managed, I love what they've done with their new stadium. Considering the "downturn" of Italian football lately, they have done really well while their Milanese rivals have struggled.

RuiEsteves
15-11-15, 11:45 AM
All those who started against Barça are rested and left to re-mobilize, except Bosingwa and Valter who is given the armband. Leiria are battling for their life against relegation and will give it all they have.

> May.10, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#32)
Leiria v Vitoria Setubal : 2-3 / goals: Bosingwa, A.Ferreira, Joséto / assists: A.Ferreira, Bosingwa / MoM: Bosingwa
It’s a crazy game in which the young Guerreiros (of which six Academy players) decide to take all risks and attack. They will create moutains of chances with Bosingwa and young forward Antonio Ferreira being the stand-out players, scoring two but Brazilian Bruno equalizes twice for the hosts. South African keeper Zane is outstanding between the sticks and makes no less than 13 saves (!) but Joséto saves the day in the end and secures yet another Liga win.


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> May.12, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#33)
Leixões v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2 / goals: Kaka, Pinto Neves / assists: Tosa, Kaka / MoM: Kaka
A very solid game for the last away fixture of the season and an easy victory, with an in-form Kaka.

It’s all over in the Liga except Setubal have one last re-scheduled fixture, at home, against a Chaves side who have just avoided relegation this season (15th).

> May.15, 2013 / Pr.Liga (#34)
Vitoria Setubal v Chaves : 3-1 / goals: Armando (o.g.), Kaka (pen.), Antunes / assists: Bosingwa, João / MoM: Bosingwa
Os Guerreiros bang-in three goals in a soft 1st half, with a good Cleiton on the left and a commanding Bosingwa in midfield. Tito takes risks in the 2nd half, fielding Academy players such as Marcio Jesus, João Campos and 16-yr old João Litos, the last two making their first ever apearances and being clearly not ready for Primeira Liga level. Chaves will utterly dominate, hitting the post twice, and ex-Setubal striker João Paiva claws one back.

It’s another victory and a nice party in Bonfim for what has been an undefeated season for Vitoria in the Liga. An amazing achievement.

Meanwhile Sporting CP have lost against Caen (0-1) a UEFA Cup Final which they should have won. It is now the 3rd defeat in recent times for the club in European cups finals. Ex Guerreiro Mendonça took part in the game and lost his second personal UEFA Cup final, after the 2007 defeat with Setubal v Napoli…

Os Guerreiros have one last game to play this season, against FC Porto in the Taça do Portugal Final. As title holders and undisputed best side in Portugal, Vitoria want to win this one which would be the first time against Porto – 2 finals lost against them in the past. Forbs has a full strength XI except for tired Coutinho, who is replaced by Jean-Ma. 2 ex players from Vitoria will play for the northern rivals: Cristiano Ronaldo and Tonel.

> May.19, 2013 / Taça do Portugal (Final) / Jamor, Lisboa
Vitoria Setubal v FC Porto : 2-0 / goals: Tosa, Pinto Neves / assists: Olembé, Kaka / MoM: Pinto Neves
Porto start the game very well and on 4’ international star Cr.Ronaldo finds the crossbar! but Os Guerreiros rally, take gradual control in midfield and start creating chances. On 24’ Tosa finds Pinto Neves whose volley is saved by Fabio. But on 34’ the Brazilian keeper is helpless when in-form Tosa chips the ball above him into the nets for a GOOOOOOOOL! and the killer blow comes right after, when on a counter-attack Pinto Neves shows why he is probably Portugal’s best player at the moment, dribbling past Jorge Andarde and Tonel for the second goal. FC Porto are a good side and will fight back in the second half, missing a very good chance by Ribeiro on 67’ and seeing Valter perry twice in the last 5’ to deny them even a consolation goal, while Jean-Ma has a great game in defense. Setubal win the trophy again!


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Vitoria Setubal retain their Cup title, now the 9th in the club’s History. They have also achieved a domestic treble this season – Primeira Liga, Taça do Portugal, Supertaça – which they had only managed once in 2005/06.

Player of the month: he has had a very good and consistent season and for the first time ever the award goes to long-time club servant Bosingwa. He appeared in 5 games this month, managing an average rating of 8.00 - for 1 goa, 2 ass, 2 MoM.

troza
16-11-15, 05:49 PM
Well... champion's league semi-final only loosing to a club that has a lot of players on the wrong side of the 30s and dominating in Portugal... that sounds good to me :) Nice season!

RuiEsteves
17-11-15, 10:09 PM
Undefeated with a 19-points lead in the end over the second, this has been the easiest domestic season – even more so considering Vitoria have managed a treble with the Taça and Supertaça. The defense remains incredible with 14 goals conceded (equalized record) however the attack, although on the rise, remains too shy with only 63 goals (2nd best).


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Sporting CP have rallied and finished very strong in the end, taking the 2nd spot. FC Porto on the other hand collapsed and finish a disappointing 4th (33pts behind Setubal!!). As for Benfica, who were at some point close to the relegation zone, their final 7th spot is once again a huge disappointment
On the other hand, Campomaiorense have their best ever season with a great young generation, and they will play the Champions League qualifiers! Farense, Salgueiros and Leixões continue to be the best sides in the tier-2 of the table.

In the bottom, all 3 clubs who had promoted – Leiria, Alverca and Beira-Mar – are going straight back to Segunda while Chaves just saved their neck this time. Aves, Varzim and Rio Ave are promoted back in the Primeira for next season.

troza
18-11-15, 11:55 AM
Welcome to the portuguese 1st division after some years. In my game with Barreirense, Benfica has spent some years in the second division... Oporto and Sporting Lisbon had good seasons but not always and I've had some years that my competition was Penafiel and some other teams like that.

RuiEsteves
21-11-15, 04:03 PM
It was an unprecedented hijacking by Setubal of the Primeira Liga Best Players classification with no less than the five top positions occupied by Guerreiros!!


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For the second consecutive season Pinto Neves was crowned best player, a consecration. Ednilson was 3rd, Kaka 5th. But the most ourstanding achievements were perhaps those of two Academy products: Fernandes who came 4th , and young Paulito who came 2nd while he is not even featuring in the Starting XI of Vitoria this season, having therefore started many games from the bench!

Moreover, several Guerreiros were distinguished on the international scene. The talent of Brazilian international Kaka was finally recognized at 31yr-old when he came 3rd in the FIFA World Player award.


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Pinto Neves, probably the biggest bankable “star” in Setubal's squad right now, came 2nd to European Best Player and Best Striker awards, behind FC Bayern’s Berbatov.


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Finally Bocas, who had gotten 3rd place last season already, was perhaps the most spectacular one of all since he was named Best European Defender of the Year, at 32yr-old!


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Knowing exactly what he owed to Tito Forbs (who recruited him, barely known, at the age of 24), he paid a vibrant hommage to his coach in the media.


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Let’s just hope all those medals and praises would not turn the heads of the players, nor entice them to want to move elsewhere, and that they would remain before all humble Guerreiros from Setubal…

RuiEsteves
22-11-15, 07:20 PM
There are only 2 changes compared to last perfect season: Kolo Touré ahead of Nélson Veiga at RB (which was on the cards) and Academy player Paulo Antunes having gotten more starts than Tosa. Few changes means on average the team is getting older (27.1 avg.) and still only 2 Academy players in it. Once again a very special mention to Ednilson with his 10th starting slot for Os Guerreiros, the 3rd as captain and he is for the 3rd time elected Best Guerreiro of the season.


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Hall of Fame: Valter produced the 3rd best GK performance ever for Vitoria, Salomon Olembé the 2nd best ever at LB, Coutinho the 5th best ever at DC and Ednilson the 3rd best ever at DMC.

Here is a summary of the various Players of the Month awards throughout the season:

- Aug: Joséto
- Sep: Ednilson
- Oct: Valter
- Nov: Fihado
- Dec: Ednilson
- Jan: Pinto Neves
- Feb: Kaka
- Mar: Valter
- Apr: Tosa
- May: Bosingwa

Now is time for the traditional and exhaustive position by position review.

RuiEsteves
22-11-15, 09:06 PM
- Valter (21) / 52 app – 25 conceded / 7.37. Awards: Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year.
After his great season last year and heroic stature in Portugal, he confirmed with a similar performance. A pillar at Vitoria and with the Seleção whom he hopes to take to the 2014 World Cup. His 2nd nomination in the Liga Team of the Year, and he’s only 21yr-old!
Contract: extended until 2018, with increased wage at £6k/w and a £350k sign-on bonus.

- Marco Tabuas (36) / 7(1) app – 6 conceded, 1 ass / 7.00
Had to step-in when young Valter got injured, did well albeit with a couple of errors which cost a goal each.
Contract: runs until 2014, does not wish to extend so far.

- Quim (37) / unused.
No appearance this season, focused on helping young Valter.
Contract: runs until 2014, does not wish to extend so far.

It’s all fine with Valter who is a cornerstone now, but 2nd and 3rd keeper will be an issue in 12 months unless either Tabuas or Quim renew their contracts...

RuiEsteves
22-11-15, 09:30 PM
- Salomon Olembé (32) / 26(6) app – 6 ass, 2 MoM / 7.38
Competing against Humberto Barros, he finally nailed the starting slot and actually delivered his best ever performance for the club! A starter for the 5th season, his offensive skills remain intact at 32yr-old. He may however struggle next year with young Brazilian Cleiton stepping-up…
Contract: extended until 2015, at a reduced wage of £7k/w and a £200k sign-on bonus.

- Humberto Barros (27) / 24(7) app – 1 ass, 1 MoM / 7.23
It was very tight at left-back between him and Olembé, but the Cameroonian got the starting slot for the 2nd season in a row. Barros did also add depth at CB and played very well. Remains a key defensive asset in Tito’s hand for the years to come. Has now acquired Portuguese citizenship.
Contract: extended until 2018, with a £100k sign-on bonus.

- Cleiton (21) / 14 app – 3 ass / 7.50
The left-back Brazilian prodigee played a lot in the Liga already and has impressed everyone, Forbs included. He will strive to be a starter next year for sure.
Contract: runs until 2017.

- Solomon (28) / 7(11) app / 6.94
It’s a shame that he is weak in the air because the Nigerian really is a talented and versatile defender. The left back position being now full of talents he may struggle to be better than a solid bench option.
Contract: runs until 2017.

What used to be a weak position in the squad is now filled with skilled players. Cleiton is so gifted and determined that he will challenge and push hard to be the starter of choice for Vitoria.

RuiEsteves
22-11-15, 10:15 PM
- Kolo Touré (32) / 24 app – 1 goa, 1 ass, 1 MoM / 7.21
Moved to the right of the defense due to Nélson Veiga’s decline, he finally managed to become a starter for Vitoria on his 3rd season at the club (in spite of a 3-month injury during the winter). Was very good and at 32yr-old should have another solid year under the belt.
Contract: extended until 2015, at a reduced wage of £6.5k/w and a £65k sign-on bonus.

- Nélson Veiga (35) / 13(6) app – 1 ass / 7.11
After 11 years as a starter for the club, the 35yr-old Guerreiro incarnate had to step down and he did so gracefully. Still managed 19 app and played well, with an intact motivation. The Bonfim legend will continue to add depth to the squad!
Contract: extended until 2015, at a reduced wage of £3k/w and a £12k sign-on bonus.

- Antonio Cruz (19) / 13(3) app / 7.13
Got a lot of game time in the 2nd part of the season, during Liga games in which he did well. At only 19yr-old, the staff is impressed by his qualities and versatility since he can also cover DMC and CB. A key asset for the future, may push for the starting slot next season!
Contract: runs until 2017.

- Rahim Ouedraogo (32) / 10(8) app – 1 goa, 3 ass, 1 MoM / 6.89
Whilst his future was uncertain, the Burkinabé full back enjoyed another good season as a sub getting more game time than planned due to Touré’s 3-month injury. Played well. Will this be enough to convince Forbs he should carry on for one more year?
Contract: expired.

- Ôscar (18) / unused.
No marked improvement, no game time. Needs to step-up. Remains available for loan.
Contract: runs until 2016.

- Saliou Lassissi (34) / unused.
He may regret having signed last summer for another season as for the 1st time in his 11 years at the club, Tito never used him once. This time it may be best for either party to call it an end, as the big Ivoirian is about to turn 35.
Contract: expired.

- Tiago Miguel (24) / unused.
Transfered to lower-league side Moscavide after 5 seasons at Vitoria (25 app, 1 goa, 5 ass) during which he never convinced Tito. We wish him well in his new club.

Although there were 7 players available for a single starting slot at RB this season, one (Tiago Miguel) is leaving whilst two (Lassissi and Ouedraogo) are now without contracts. With Oscar much too young and Nélson Veiga really getting on now, that really leaves Touré and Cruz to share the position. Is it enough?

RuiEsteves
22-11-15, 10:36 PM
- Coutinho (24) / 36 app – 1 ass / 7.28
Delivered once again very strong performances for his 6th season as a starter for Setubal. He also remains a cornerstone for Portugal too (44 caps already!) and will want to lead the Seleção into the 2014 World Cup.
Contract: extended until 2019, with a £475k sign-on bonus.

- Bocas (32) / 41 app – 1 ass, 2 MoM / 7.12. Awards: Best European Defender of the Year.
Another great season for the Portuguese international, the 6th as a starter for Setubal. Solid as ever in the big games, he reconquered his starting slot with the Seleção and will hope to play the 2014 World Cup. At 32yr-old he is now internationally recognized and was rewarded with a Best European Defender award!
Contract: extended until 2015, with a £250k sign-on bonus.

- Jean-Ma (25) / 16 app – 1 MoM / 7.06
The Guinean Academy player continued to improve and deliver solid games at CB in the Liga. He really is a very decent back-up solution and maybe one day, a starter?
Contract: runs until 2016.

- José Maria Gama (27) / 13 app – 1 ass, 1 MoM / 7.23
Like Jean-Ma, got a lot of game time in the Liga once the title was in the bag. And did well, he’s a solid CB and adds great depth to the position.
Contract: runs until 2015.

Bocas being “only” 32yr-old he should continue to start. Enough depth at the position, even more so with Barros able to cover. No recruitment needed.

RuiEsteves
24-11-15, 09:19 PM
- Ednilson (c) (30) / 44 app – 10 goa, 11 ass, 7 MoM / 7.95. Awards: 3rd Best Player of the Liga. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year.
The words are lacking to describe what this player means to the club. He was simply once again outstanding, as a captain, playmaker and scorer, a starter for the 10th consecutive season and member of the Liga Team of the Year for the 9th time, an all-time record. He was also overall and for the 4th season, the Best Guerreiro.
Contract: runs until 2017.

- Bosingwa (30) / 41 app – 2 goa, 4 ass, 2 MoM / 7.63
The long-time club servant delivered his best performance ever at DMC, solid and always consistent. It’s his 5th season as a starter and he has so far convinced Tito that he is a better, more defensive option, than young Paulito. How long will this last?
Contract: unprotected, runs until 2014; in discussions with the club to renew for a higher wage.

- Fernandes (23) / 39(2) app – 5 goa, 8 ass, 3 MoM / 7.63
A starter for the 3rd consecutive season, the Academy player is now reaching maturity. He finished 4th Best Player of the Liga and has started all games for the Seleção. The duo he forms with Ednilson is fantastic, and he is the vice-captain of the squad. Wants to make his mark on World Cup 2014.
Contract: runs until 2016.

- Paulito (21) / 19(13) app – 2 goa, 6 ass, 4 MoM / 7.72. Awards: 2rd Best Player of the Liga. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year.
Like Bruno Melo before, the young Academy prodigee managed to be named in the Liga Team of the Year (and actually finish 2nd Best Player!) without being a season starter for Vitoria. What a testimony of his huge talent! Also a fans’ favourite, many wonder how long Bosingwa can retain his position…
Contract: runs until 2016.

- João (20) / 15(2) app – 2 goa, 5 ass, 1 MoM / 7.76
The young Academy gun has continued to improve and with Tito’s rotation policy in the 2nd part of the Liga, he ended up getting a lot of playtime in midfield where he delivered outstanding performances. He’s only 20yr-old and looks like a possible future starter for the club, which is great news. Became an U21 International with Portugal.
Contract: extended until 2018, with increased wage at £0.6k/w.

- Claudio (23) / 15(2) app – 2 ass, 1 MoM / 7.53
With João, Claudio is the other great news at DMC coming from the Academy. He has really stepped-up and played very well in the Liga, and may put-up a challenge for the starting central DMC position, bringing his physical presence, determination and defensive skills.
Contract: runs until 2016.

- Armando Rosa (24) / 3(10) app / 6.77
Loyal to his Academy club, has accepted his back-up player status. He is now behind Paulito of course, but also João and Claudio in the picking order at DMC. But his attitude is impeccable and he adds useful depth.
Contract: runs until 2016.

- Marcio Jesus (20) / 0(5) app / 6.60
The young Academy gun finally appeared for Vitoria, and showed interesting progress. Remains available for loan.
Contract: runs until 2016.

The engine room on the pitch and Setubal’s traditional core strength, the DMC position is covered by a total of 8 players - 6 of which from the Academy. It is enough depth with promising youngsters. Next year will probably see Paulito attempting to nail a starting slot while Bosingwa has not yet agreed to terms on which he would renew his contract.

RuiEsteves
26-11-15, 09:22 PM
- Kaka (31) / 39 app – 12 goa, 7 ass, 3 MoM / 7.44. Awards: Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year. 3rd FIFA World Player of the Year.
The Brazilian had another very good and solid season, scoring less but assisting more. A starter for the 7th consecutive year for Vitoria (a record for an AMC), he appears for the 4th time in the Liga Team of the Year. Also key with Brazil with whom he hopes to finally play a World Cup next summer, his international talent was finally recognized at 31yr-old with a 3rd place in the prestigious FIFA World Player award.
Contract: extended until 2015, at a reduced wage of £9.5k/w and a £400k sign-on bonus.

- Paulo Antunes (22) / 25(9) app – 5 goa, 5 ass, 1 MoM / 7.29
At 22yr-old and after steady progress, the Academy player has finally produced a solid season and after an intense competition with Tosa and Fihado, nailed the starting slot for the first time! Another great young AMC for the times to come.
Contract: extended until 2018, with increased wage at £0.8k/w and a £75k sign-on bonus.

- Tosa (24) / 23(7) app – 9 goa, 2 ass, 1 MoM / 7.00
It was a fierce battle for the other AMC slot next to Kaka, and Tosa just lost out to Academy mate Antunes. He did however finish the season like a cannonball, scoring both goals in the CL quarter-finals against Celtic as well as the opener in the Final of the Taça. Will strive to reconquer the position next season.
Contract: runs until 2016.

- Fihado (21) / 17(8) app – 3 goa, 2 ass, 2 MoM / 7.04
He started the season extremely well and looked like the real deal, until he picked a 3-month injury at the beginning of the winter. Keeps on improving, a major asset at AMC and even SC for the future.
Contract: runs until 2018.

- Antonio Ferreira (18) / 7(2) app – 3 goa, 2 ass / 7.33
The good surprise of the season at AMC; although still young, the Acadamy player has really improved and when given game time in the Liga in the second half of the season, he showed all his skills. A serious candidate for the future!
Contract: runs until 2016.

- Oliveisa (24) / 5(6) app – 1 goa, 2 ass, 1 MoM / 6.91
Decent performances but is now challenged by young Ferreira on the bench. At 24yr-old and given the huge depth at AMC, Tito has decided to place the talented Brazilian on transfer-list!
Contract: expires in 2014.

- Marajo (32) / 2(4) app – 2 goa / 7.17
Age has taken its toll and while young guns are on the rise, the ex-Bonfim idol has a tough time appearing on the match sheet.
Contract: runs until 2014, does not wish to extend so far.

- Ricardo Luis (19) / 0(1) app / 7.00
The young neo-pro only made one appearance, but shows improvement at training. There is a beacon of hope for him. Available for loan.
Contract: runs until 2017.

- João Campos (18) / 0(1) app / 6.00
Normally a winger, the neo-pro appeared once but failed to impress the staff. Needs to seriously step-up or he will soon be gone. Available for loan.
Contract: runs until 2017.

Four players are competing for two slots, and young Ferreira is a solid bench option. That is enough depth for the position, even with an ageing Kaka, a declining Marajo and Oliveisa on transfer-list.

RuiEsteves
26-11-15, 09:58 PM
- Pinto Neves (25) / 37 app – 22 goa, 7 ass, 7 MoM / 7.89. Awards: Best Player of the Liga. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year. 2nd European Player of the Year, 2nd European Striker of the Year. Fans Player of the Year.
A pillar of the Seleção, now internationally recognized, decisive in the big games and Best Player of the Liga for a second consecutive year, Pinto Neves once again delivered an amazing season and has now become a hero amongst the fans too. What a player and what an asset for the club!
Contract: runs until 2016.

- Joséto (21) / 19(19) app – 18 goa, 2 ass, 3 MoM / 7.34
He cannot really challenge such a powerhouse like Pinto Neves, but the young Academy player continues to enjoy a lot of game time and scores bags of goals, he is a natural finisher and a key offensive asset for Forbs.
Contract: runs until 2017.

- Rock (25) / 3 app – 1 ass / 7.33
Neither Pinto Neves nor Joséto having been injured, the Congolese Academy player had little game time. Remains 3rd choice striker for Vitoria.
Contract: runs until 2016.

- Valter Alberto (21) / 0(3) app – 1 ass / 6.67
Although he has improved, the Academy gun still is 4th in the striker hierarchy and will have a tough time breaking through. Remains available for loan.
Contract: runs until 2017.

- João Litos (17) / 0(1) app / 6.00
Still very young, the Academy neo-pro needs to improve several steps before he can push for game time. Available for loan.
Contract: runs until 2017.

- André (23) / unused.
Already 23yr-old and having not improved much, Tito has decided to place him on transfer-list.
Contract: unprotected, runs until 2015.

Enough depth and talent, squad is well equipped here. No recruitment needed.

RuiEsteves
27-11-15, 09:33 AM
The first one to depart and be released on free transfer was Ivoirian international Saliou Lassisi. The big center-back had joined the club from AS Roma back in 2002 and served Vitoria for 11 long years. Never a starter, Tito has always used as a utility back which enabled him to clock 159 app - 7 goa, 9 ass. At 35yr-old he cannot really compete at that level anymore and will be looking for a last home before retirement.


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Big Saliou has accumulated quite a number of trophies during his time at Setubal: UEFA Cup 2004, European Supercup 2004, 4x Portuguese Cups, 2x Portuguese Supercups. It has been a pleasure working with him and we wish all the best for his final season(s).

There was another full back leaving the club, although Rahim Ouedraogo and Tito Forbs tried until the very last minute to agree on a reduced wage to extend his contract by one year - alas the player's agent was too greedy. Unlike Lassissi, the Burkinabé defender started twice for Vitoria in the 2004/05 and 2005/06 seasons and thus has marked more profoundly the History of the club. He was expecially liked for his determination and moulded perfectly in the Guerreiro type of attitude which the coach was looking for in his lads, which earned him 239 app (4th all-time highest in the HoF) – 9 goa, 19 ass, 2 MoM. His versatility between the left and right sides of the defense was also an important asset.


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He has litterally won everything in Setubal, including 6 Primeira Liga titles (!), the 2012 Champions League and 5x Portuguese Cups. It’s a monument who leaves the club and many fans would have liked to see him carry on for one more season. Also carrying a Dutch passport, he finds a home in the Holland Premier League with mid-table side de Graafschap. We wish him all the best and he is welcome any time he wants in Bonfim!

Finally Brazilian talented midfielder Oliveisa is also on the move. Heralded as one of the future greats when he joined 5 years ago at the age of 19, and although his talent is obvious, he never really quite convinced the coach and staff to make him a starter. Transferred for £2.9m (one of the club highest ever transfer-fees) from São Caetano, he managed 70 app – 8 goa, 8 ass, 2 MoM. He can claim to his name the 2012 Champions League and one Primeira Liga title. Facing intense competition at AMC with Tosa, Antunes, Fihado or even Ferreira now, Tito let him join Bundesliga side FC Köln for £1m return on investment. We wish him all the best in Germany.

troza
27-11-15, 03:19 PM
It is always sad to see some historic players go. Even if they weren't starters, they were part of the best teams of the history of the club.

At the same time, we all know that Tito can substitute those players well and there is a chance that the new players are Portuguese!

RuiEsteves
27-11-15, 09:52 PM
@troza: Lassissi simply wasted his time last year so it had to be so, he's 35. Ouedraogo could have carried on for another 12 months had he been less greedy, and although he was only a starter for 2 seasons I realized that he has won almost everything with us and is therefore entirely part of the club most glorious History! there are no Academy player (up to now) able to step-in at RB but young Portuguese Antonio Cruz is ready. Oliveisa is a different matter, he never fully delivered and faced a lot of competition at AMC - still a bit of a waste considering he is Leonardo's regen!

RuiEsteves
27-11-15, 10:07 PM
The Bonfim Academy was prolific this summer as 3 young guns were presented to the senior staff and offered pro contracts. For the first time in years, two of them were defenders (unfortunately, DR for both of them) :

16yr-old Bruno Sousa who looks very promising
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17yr-old Pedro David, much less
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And very young Telmo, 15yr-old, really has something…
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And that was it for this season’s transfers, the rest of the squad was kept unchanged.

RuiEsteves
27-11-15, 10:39 PM
So 3 departures for 3 (Academy) recruits means a stable and still very large squad of 40. For the first time more than 50% (21) are Academy players; they are shown in green below, in brackets the number of seasons at the club so far. Underlined are those players who have already been starters for at least one season, a * means the player has had an international cap.


> Keepers (3): Marco Tabuas* (17), Valter* (3), Quim* (2)

> Defense (14): Nélson Veiga* (13), Bocas* (8), Salomon Olembé* (7), Coutinho* (6), Humberto Barros (3), Kolo Touré* (3), José Maria Gama* (3), Jean-Ma* (2), Ôscar (2), Solomon (1), Cleiton (1), Antonio Cruz (1), Bruno Sousa (0), Pedro David (0)

> Midfield (8): Ednilson* (12), Bosingwa* (11), Fernandes* (8), Armando Rosa (8), Paulito (5), Claudio (5), João (3), Marcio Jesus (2)

> Attack (15): Marajo (12), Kaka* (7), Paulo Antunes (6), Pinto Neves* (5), Tosa (5), Joséto (4), Valter Alberto (4), Fihado (3), André (3), Rock* (2), Antonio Ferreira (2), Ricardo Luis (1), João Litos (1), João Campos (1), Telmo (0)


Only André (so far) in the above is on transfer-list, while Marco Tabuas, Quim, Bosingwa and Marajo are in their last contract year. There are still way too many players for only 3 attacking slots...

RuiEsteves
28-11-15, 03:33 PM
Benfica’s board realize they must do something to restore some pride to their legendary club whose last domestic title was in… 1994, 20 years ago (!!). Their scouts unearth 2 young Brazilian gems, both strikers – Souzos (£9m transfer-fee) and Alvaro Moedim (Mario Jardel’s regen). Even Tito Forbs is impressed at the quality of those signings…
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And then the unthinkable happened. He had everything he could dream of, being captain of the Seleção and having gone from playmaker of AC Milan to that of Real Madrid, two of the planet’s most prestigious clubs. Why would ex-Setubal superstar Bruno Melo feel the need to come back in the Primeira Liga, as star midfielder for Sporting CP, Vitoria’s arch-rivals??! Tito was saddened when he heard the news and some of Sadinhos fans were angry. Would they come to accept it, or never forgive the player? The only good news in it all was the £240k cut the club got from the whopping £12.75m fee which Sporting paid to Madrid…


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RuiEsteves
28-11-15, 04:05 PM
Tito had to deal with an unfit squad right in the midle of the summer and an impossible schedule, playing 5 games at the World Championship in Italy and a Supertaça final sandwiched in the middle – all in 2 weeks. This really strecthed the group, which allowed the younger Guerreiros a lot of play time.


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Despite a prestigious hammering of Independiente (4-0), in the end though Vitoria lost both finals – to FC Porto (0-1), in a tight game with Fernandes missing a penalty-kick, and to arch-rivals Inter Milan (0-1, e.t.) in a game dominated by the Italians and during which Bosingwa was red-carded after 19’.

Player of the Month: Claudio – 8.00 avg - solid as a rock in central DMC.

RuiEsteves
28-11-15, 04:10 PM
The Seleção validate their ticket to the 2014 World Cup, topping their group with ease. After Fernandes a few years ago, another Academy product – Paulito – becomes a Portuguese international, further proof of the excellence of the Bonfim youth program. Vitoria are drawn once again in a difficult CL pool in which neither Feyenoord, Hamburg SV nor Sevilla C.F. can be taken for granted.


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Following a difficult draw at home against an excellent Dutch side, Setubal register 2 convincing wins in Europe which puts them in an ideal position. It’s also a clean start in the Liga, with a very solid game at the Dragão against an inferior FC Porto.

Player of the Month: Coutinho – 8.00 avg, 1 HdM – great presence at CB, outstanding in the victory over Sevilla.

RuiEsteves
28-11-15, 04:14 PM
As Paulito picks-up a 2-months injury, Os Guerreiros enter a challenging month with 4 consecutive away games, 2 of which in the CL which will be key for Phase 2 qualification.


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While Setubal power through in the Primeira Liga, already firmly on top of the table, both away European games were hard-fought. It was a great battle in Sanchez Pizjuan, an early goal from Tosa and a MoM performance by Valter being enough to secure a win in spite of both Coutinho’s and Tosa’s red-cards. Phase 2 qualification was already secured, nevertheless Vitoria went on to win a tight game in De Kuip and are thus guaranteed to top the group.

Coming on from the bench in Rotterdam, young Academy product Telmo (16) becomes the youngest ever player to wear Setubal’s jersey, beating by a few months Fernandes’ previous record.

Player of the Month: Ednilson – 8.60 avg, 2 goa, 5 ass, 2 HdM – simply outstanding performances by the legendary captain and playmaker.

RuiEsteves
28-11-15, 05:18 PM
With a last home victory over HSV on Nov.5, Setubal have impressively cruised through their CL Phase 1 with (5W, 1D).


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A few big names are already out: Man United, Napoli, Celtic and Sporting CP. Phase 2 groups are always tough and this season is no different for Vitoria who are seeded with current title holders FC Bayern München, Premier League powerhouse Arsenal and Serie A surprise package Brescia.


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The rest of the month went superbly well with a perfect sheet of 7 victories in 7 games, including a wipe-out of Benfica in Estadio da Luz (0-3) and a deserved and key win in Brescia in the CL. Os Guerreiros are now running 51 games unbeaten in the Primeira Liga, an all-time record in Portuguese football History. In other news, Academy gun Marcio Jesus scored his first ever goal for the club in the Taça Round 4.

Player of the Month: Pinto Neves – 8.25 avg, 3 goa, 2 ass, 2 HdM – in great form, the international striker was the best man on the pitch against Benfica and Brescia.

kuy
29-11-15, 03:17 AM
This season going brilliantly again, shame you didn't hit form quickly enough to capture those two early trophies. It looks like Benfica have signed two very good strikers, I'll be interested to see how they perform in their first season - as well as how Bruno Melo gets on for Sporting

RuiEsteves
29-11-15, 08:56 AM
This season going brilliantly again, shame you didn't hit form quickly enough to capture those two early trophies. It looks like Benfica have signed two very good strikers, I'll be interested to see how they perform in their first season - as well as how Bruno Melo gets on for Sporting
I really don't know how to get players 100% fit end of July, I have never managed to find a way. That and the crazy schedule of the World Championship meant that I was flattened out for both finals...
Souzos is best striker of the championship so far, he is a beast. Moedim has been a sub up to now, Benfica play Mantorras - Souzos upfront. As for Bruno Melo, can't say it's been going the way he wanted thus far. More to come on that.

RuiEsteves
29-11-15, 02:58 PM
Young Academy star Paulito delivers an outstanding performance (2 assists) against CL title holders FC Bayern, which enables Setubal to beat the German giants. Alas, he injures himself for 1-month a few days later in training.


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Although Os Guerreiros seem to be tiring before the Christmas break, they manage to continue their unbelievable streak of victories with 3 straight (1-0) wins in the Liga, which means they still sit very comfortably on top of the table with a game in hand. Sporting CP (also a game in hand) and FC Porto are still in the race, somehow…


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The team plays very well and the squad has all the depth it needs (and more) at each position, which means no recruitement during the winter mercato. Some of the evolutions are that Kaka is gradually declining and, for the 1st time in 8 seasons, seriously challenged for his starting AMC slot – in particular by Tosa who is in great form and rumoured to be soon called-up for Portugal. At LB, although Olembé still rocks, Cleiton is now the definite starter.

Player of the Month: Tosa – 8.00 avg, 2 goa – only 3 games played, but did score that crucial equalizer against Munich.

Sadly (for him) the first 5 months at Sporting CP for 32yr-old Bruno Melo have not gone as smoothly as planned, and he is under criticism from the press…


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Finally all Sadinhos fans are sad to learn that ex-Bonfim star Emmanuel Olisadebe, who had been released on free by Valencia during the summer, has decided to call it quits and announced his retirement from professional football at 33yr-old.

RuiEsteves
29-11-15, 03:23 PM
The year starts with Cleiton picking a 1-month injury. The draw at the Alvalde ends a spectacular 17 games winning streak (11 in the Liga), while Ednilson collects the 2nd red-card of his entire career during a 2nd half entirely dominated by the visitors. Bruno Melo warmed the bench and did not play against his forther team-mates, who all went to greet him at the end of the game.


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Although it was a busy month with 7 games played, most matches have been quite easy for Os Guerreiros who are in cruise mode. There was however one crazy match in Bonfim:
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In the Portuguese Taça, Vitoria has broken another all-time Portuguese record with their 12th consecutive win in the competition.

Player of the Month: Claudio – 8.50 avg, 1 goa, 2 ass, 2 MoM – Luis Andrade’s nephew is really stepping up and impressing everyone. Can he nail a starting slot this season??

Next month will be more challenging with Solomon (Nigeria), Olembé (Cameroon) and Kolo Touré (Ivory Coast) travelling to Africa with their respective nations to play the CAN.

Finally the Primeira Liga is rocked by another high-profile transfer: at 31yr-old, Benfica’s star striker Mantorras makes a move to the Spanish Liga with Valencia C.F. paying £9m transfer-fee.

RuiEsteves
29-11-15, 07:14 PM
A tougher month ahead of Os Guerreiros with the back-to-back clash in the CL vs Arsenal, whom oddly Setubal meet for the very first time.


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The first leg in London is a great grame of football dominated by Vitoria; but keeper Paul Robinson makes no less than 11 saves and Jermain Defoe scores the only goal of the 90’ with a long-range strike, ending a 31-games undefeated streak for the Portuguese champions.


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Alas there is much worse than the defeat and Tito knows it is bad when he sees his captain limping out of Highbury’s pitch :


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It is a huge blow for the club, at the worst time in the season. Not only does Ednilson almost never get injured, but he had in his entire career never picked an injury extending 3-weeks off.

Nevertheless, without their legendary and iconic captain, Os Guerreiros manage to win the return leg in Bonfim (3-2) in a tight and spectacular game where Paulito is once again amazing, delivering 3 assists for all Vitoria’s goals on the day. They will also go on and qualify for the Taça do Portugal semi-finals, eliminating Santa Clara for the 3rd time at the quarter-finals stage.

Player of the Month: Paulito – 8.00 avg, 4 ass, 1 MoM – he gets it on the sole basis of his perfomance of the return leg vs Arsenal.

troza
30-11-15, 10:18 AM
Well... you're trying a different style. Can't you still post the results? Like the player of the month, just a list of the games and the results (you can skip the scorers and stuff).

About the start of the season... well, with Barreirense I would give the players the pre-season training and then 2 or 3 weeks with light or no training at all. And I would need to use all players... I usually get some extra-players for that competition as I need two 11 players and some for the bench. And I played with no confederations cup taking my players due to a bug. You can try that in the next time.

About the super cup... I usually end the heavy training as the friendlies start... that is enough to get a good condition... not always 100% condition but I usually get enough.

kuy
30-11-15, 01:30 PM
About the super cup... I usually end the heavy training as the friendlies start... that is enough to get a good condition... not always 100% condition but I usually get enough.

This is what I do too: as soon as the season finishes I put everyone on heavy training, and change this to light (usually Fitness and Tactics light, everything else None) when the friendlies start - I arrange roughly one friendly per week for the 4-6 weeks before my first competitive match of the new season.

RuiEsteves
30-11-15, 02:44 PM
@troza: what I have done is post a screen capture of the results for every month, and link it as an image. Can you see it? I have done this because I have less time and also less envy to write detailed reports of every game...

troza
30-11-15, 03:53 PM
Sorry. For me to see those images at work I must use the time to go online... and to see everything else I don't.

If that's the case, sorry... my mistake! Then forget it cause it has everything and a nice solution if you don't have the time to do everything as you did. We like to keep up with your team.

By the way... what is the maximum year that you will do with Tito? He isn't new so I guess that you should have though of that (for instante... in my Barreirense game, the coach has been doing his duty for 50 something years... a bit too much to keep it real :P)

RuiEsteves
30-11-15, 04:27 PM
Tito Forbs was born in 1940, so he is now 74 years old in the story. To be frank, retiring has indeed crossed his mind since the job is exhausting - actually he disappeared for a while after the CL win in May 2012 and was about to hand over the team to his assistant Rui Lopes, but he changed his mind... but he won't carry on for as long as your Barreirense game that's for sure!

troza
30-11-15, 05:33 PM
Tito Forbs was born in 1940, so he is now 74 years old in the story. To be frank, retiring has indeed crossed his mind since the job is exhausting - actually he disappeared for a while after the CL win in May 2012 and was about to hand over the team to his assistant Rui Lopes, but he changed his mind... but he won't carry on for as long as your Barreirense game that's for sure!

I just found that curious.

Do you plan to keep going with other manager once Tito retires?

RuiEsteves
30-11-15, 10:02 PM
@troza, kuy: on training regime, I do the opposite as what you describe. Immediately after the last game of the season, I send every player on 4 to 5 weeks vacation until 1st or 2nd week of July, depending on our schedule. Then they go for 3 to 4 weeks of "Commando" style - meaning intensive Fitness. And usually 2 weeks before our first game, they start their normal training regime again. I seldom do friendlies. And I also give them a week break with their families around Christmas.

@troza, on Tito: no when Tito Forbs retires, this story will end. But he is not ready yet, he is very attached to several historical players (Marco Tabuas, Nélson Veiga, Bocas and above all Ednilson who is just incredible) and may continue until that generation has fully retired.