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RuiEsteves
09-05-14, 02:21 PM
« Ah… those were the good old days » thought Tito FORBS to himself as he was having his usual night walk along the docks bordering the Rio Sado.


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Born and raised in this city directly south of Lisboa, Forbs remembered fondly of his childhood years in Setubal, during the 1940’s and 1950’s. They were times during which Portugal was still at the helm of the remnants of its empire with colonies throughout Africa (Angola, Mozambique, Guinea-Bissau, Cape Verde, São Tome é Principe…) and Asia (Timor, Goa...); the conservative regime made sure everyday life remained as it had always been, like an isolated island in a troubled XXth century Europe.

3rd son of a father who spent most his life as a soldier in the Portuguese army, Tito was raised with his 6 other brothers and sisters by their mother. Life was tough, strict discipline ruled in the Forbs family, but life was good. It was good because of football, which soon became the prime interest of the young Tito. In football also, those days seemed like a Portuguese Golden Age. The great Portuguese clubs, Os Tres Grandes (Benfica, Sporting CP and to a lesser extent, FC Porto), were feared all across Europe. Sport Lisboa e Benfica was crowned twice European champions (1961 & 1962) and had it not been for Real Madrid’s early domination, they would have been undisputed kings of the continent. The Seleção had a splendid run in the 1966 world cup and the planet admired the great Portuguese players of those days.

Behind the Tres Grandes there were plenty of other excellent clubs – Belenenses, Vitoria Guimarães, Académica Coimbra to name a few… but for Tito and all his friends, there was only one club they admired and supported : the VITORIA SETUBAL Futebol Clube. The 1960’s and early 1970’s were their glory years, with 2 Cups in the trophy cabinet, runners-up in 1971/72 and perhaps an even better season in 1973/74 which according to all in the city and beyond, Setubal should have won on merit and talent, even before the great Sporting CP of Hector Yazalde, and the great Benfica of Eusébio.


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Most have now forgotten but Setubal was a regular contender at the time in European cups – City’s fair, Cup Winners’ Cup and UEFA Cup. They reached on four occasions the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup (in 1969, 1971, 1973 and 1974) - a record number of appearances for any Portuguese club outside the Tres Grandes at this stage of European competitions - and they also got the scalps of a few legends on the way such as:

- Fiorentina in 1969 (4-2 agg.) and in 1973 (2-2 agg.)
- Liverpool FC in 1970 (3-3 agg.)
- RSC Anderlecht in 1971 (4-3 agg.)
- Inter Milan in 1973 (2-1 agg.)
- Leeds United in 1974 (3-2 agg.)

The club had a reputation for never giving up, with a hard-grinding mentality which helped them regularly upset their giant Liboa neighbours, while also managing to bag in loads of goals with spectacular forwards. This is what shaped Tito Forbs idea of what a football team should be like and as a coach, that is what he tried to implement as he started from the very lowest conference level in Portugal. While all have praised throughout all those years his management skills and natural leadership, his conservatism and old-school tactics have gradually been considered outdated and he fell out of fashion towards the beginning of the previous decade. Forgotten by all.

Until the phone call he got that day of July 2001, when he realized that one man had not forgotten about his extraordinary coaching skills - and that man was the president of the Vitoria. The club had fallen off its former glory and had been relegated thrice to the Secunda Liga since 1992. It had just been promoted back, finishing 3rd of the Secunda in 2000/01, but the board realized the club needed to be shaken up and revitalized. Forbs was the man for the job, they now were convinced, and his objective would be to target a mid-table ranking and avoid at all costs another relegation.

But Tito Forbs had other plans. He had his revenge; he was never been given the opportunity to coach a Primera Liga side ever before and he took this opportunity as a gift from God. What he wanted was to bring back great football to his city of birth. He wanted to ressusciate ô Senhor Vitoria. He wanted Vitoria Setubal to be a name to be reckoned with again, at home and abroad. He wanted the city's kids to dream again, wearing with pride their white and green jerseys while going to school.

This is a story about the renaissance of a former great, the Vitoria Setubal Futebol Clube.

RuiEsteves
09-05-14, 02:28 PM
To those who would read this story, please note that although I am a seasoned CM3 98/99 player (I started playing when the game came out... yes, I am that old), I have only gone through a mere 3 seasons in the Belgian League of CM 01/02 a few years ago. I have read a lot throughout this site before starting this game and writing this story, I have also got here and there a few names of players which are good to buy from the start - but other than that, I don't know the data base at all. I am playing ODB patched at v3.9.68.

I will for sure have a lot of questions along the way and count on you to help ! if there are things I don't do properly, or should know, or bugs which I might run into inadvertly, please do let me know.

I hope you will enjoy. The first post is a teaser, I will start posting my first in-game reports tomorrow and Sunday.

cheers

ebfatz
09-05-14, 02:32 PM
Good Luck! :ok:

Nikolayov
09-05-14, 02:34 PM
Looking foward for it :ok:

Dermotron
09-05-14, 02:36 PM
Very interesting story given you essentially haven't played the game :ok:

RuiEsteves
09-05-14, 03:28 PM
Tito Forbs knew he had to make a difference. On the night before he was going to be officially presented to the club staff, the players and the press, he did not sleep. Alone in his house up a narrow Setubal street, he feverlishly drew tactical charts one after another. Defense and pressing were key to him, he wanted a team that put a lot of pressure on its opposition. He wanted as many clean sheets as possible. He wanted opposition to sweat their shirts off, for any goal they would score against his team - especially at home, in the venerable Estadio do Bonfim. Yet Stubal had always had great strikers, spectacular forwards who were always able to challenge the best defenses. He had to find the right balance and follow his own mind, ignoring the current trend in national and European football.

That was it, he got it. A line of rock solid defenders, 3 defensive hard-grinding midfielders and a trio of spectacular attackers / the center striker being a key pivotal point. He wanted a team of warriors. From day one he would only refer to his players as Os Guerreiros.


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Mentality : Normal
Passing : Direct (except for both DC's, the center DMC and the SC all set on Short)
Tackling : Hard (except for both AM's and the SC, set on Normal)
Off-Side Trap : Yes
Counter-attacking : No
Men Behind Ball : No

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Note : I had never found this tactical layout very efficient in CM3 98/99. Nor had I ever touched the WIB/WOB screens in that previous version of CM. I read carefully a lot of what you guys have posted here about tactics and wib/wobbing. I downloaded a few tactics pack and had a look. I wanted a more defensive orientated tactic but found none. The closest to mine was one called "wineandcoke" (except it had three MC's). I set it as my template and then played around with it, changing each one of the wib/wob screens (took me hours). Both my DL/DR are less centralized than on wineandcoke, although more centralized than on the non wib/won standard. Both my "external" DMC's are positioned closer to the line of defense especially on the wob screens. Both my AMC's are a little more spread out laterally, though not too much, than on wineandcoke. I have kept the same high-up positioned line of defense in the wob screens, and similar high-up the field position for my SC (both on wib and wob). I have no clue what impact this tactic and the wib/wob changes will have on the game, I just hope it will deliver what Tito has on his mind : once opposition comes into his defense, he expects them to be crushed between the 3 DMC's and the defensive line itself, and then those 7 defensive players must transform play quickly for the 3 attackers who will then do whatever needs to be done to score a goal. As simple as that.

ClayDatsusara
09-05-14, 03:58 PM
nice!

09-05-14, 06:29 PM
nice!

+1 :ok:

Curious to see what signings you make.

LR
09-05-14, 08:03 PM
Nice intro mate! :ok:

Looking forward to read the next chapters of your quest at my beloved Vitória.

Curious choice of nickname. Rui Esteves.
Probably the club's last pure "number 10". He was class back in the time he played at Setúbal. Unfortunately he kinda lost his mojo after signing with Benfica. Then had a discret spell at Birmigham and throttled to Asia to secure some cash at his bank account before retiring.

http://i62.tinypic.com/23vcbqg.jpg

"Em Setúbal nasceu,
Um clube pequenino,
Que ficou bem na memória,
E com os anos cresceu,
Entranhado no destino,
Com o nome de VITÓRIA,
Agora já tem igual,
Aos grandes de tradição,
E o VITÓRIA faz das suas,
Quer dentro de Portugal,
Ou em qualquer outra nação,
Perde uma não perde duas.
Viva o VITÓRIA,
Gritemos todos bem alto,
É o VITÓRIA,
Que põe tudo em sobressalto,
Viva o VITÒRIA,
Equipa de tradição,
Viva o VITÓRIA,
Clube do meu coração...

ClayDatsusara
10-05-14, 04:21 PM
I remember the day Benfica signed Rui Esteves, he was in such great form at Setubal! The excitement went off when he started (not) playing for us, but till this day I still remember him fondly. Great name choice :)

RuiEsteves
10-05-14, 09:13 PM
Looking forward to read the next chapters of your quest at my beloved Vitória.

I was not expecting to have a true Vitoria fan on this board! how's the club been doing lately? seems to be glued forever to the 2nd half of the Liga... will the plans to renovate Bonfim finally go ahead or has it all been put on hold? I'd love to see them play one day...



Curious choice of nickname. Rui Esteves.
Probably the club's last pure "number 10". He was class back in the time he played at Setúbal. Unfortunately he kinda lost his mojo after signing with Benfica. Then had a discret spell at Birmigham and throttled to Asia to secure some cash at his bank account before retiring.

Oh it's very simple. As I mentioned I played a great deal of CM3 98/99 and in that version of the game he was by far my favourite player. You could sign him from the start quite easily from a Korean club, and he would litterally rock (dominate Liga Sagres) for 2 seasons provided you played him AMC with a lot of autonomy in his gameplay (as you said, a pure old school n°10).

I only discovered later on that he had in fact really been a classy and promising player in real life.

LR
10-05-14, 10:00 PM
I was not expecting to have a true Vitoria fan on this board! how's the club been doing lately? seems to be glued forever to the 2nd half of the Liga... will the plans to renovate Bonfim finally go ahead or has it all been put on hold? I'd love to see them play one day...

Yeah, i'm a rare bread by supporting exclusively such a "small" club when almost everyone else in this country supports the "big 3". In fact we produced an amazing 2nd half in the league and we have the chance to end in 6th place (we're waiting for Maritimo's result in the tomorrow's game) altough not enough no secure an european place. Nevertheless an amazing performance since we have such a low budget. The new stadium project has been put on hold due to economic divergences with the city counsil and having an instable board in the past 3 years didn't help much. We need to wait and see... I'm not that big of a fan of moving the stadium to a zone so far away from the city.


Oh it's very simple. As I mentioned I played a great deal of CM3 98/99 and in that version of the game he was by far my favourite player. You could sign him from the start quite easily from a Korean club, and he would litterally rock (dominate Liga Sagres) for 2 seasons provided you played him AMC with a lot of autonomy in his gameplay (as you said, a pure old school n°10).

I only discovered later on that he had in fact really been a classy and promising player in real life.

I've played CM3 98/99 myself and signing Rui Esteves was inevitable too :D It was a kickass deal no doubt about it.

Good luck with the challenge and i'm pretty sure I will follow this closely :ok:

RuiEsteves
10-05-14, 10:08 PM
On the morning of July 29th 2001, Tito Forbs was officially introduced to the squad in one of the club's boardrooms. They had no idea who he was but he knew each and every one of them, having never missed any game at Bonfim since his retirement from coaching around a decade ago.

There were a few valuable players amongst them, provided they were coached the right way. He knew exactly which ones. The meeting was brief. He told them that training the next day was at 8am sharp and that from now on, he would have zero tolerance for any delay, any time, anywhere. He told them that before they would start tomorrow, he would tell them who would be put on the transfer list - there will be lots of you. He would then explain to the the others what he was expecting from them for the start of the season. He said "from now I'm in charge. You're either with me, or against me. My expectations are to win. I want us to go into every game thinking we are going to win it."


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Stats-290701_zps6c10b42b.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Stats-290701_zps6c10b42b.png.html)

The players looked at each other, bemused. Who was this mad man? they started making bets as too after how many weeks exactly he would be sacked...

He then had a brief meeting with the board members. They handed him a summary of the club's finances, looking at their feet.

- "That's all what's left in the coffers Tito. Sorry...."

He read:
Treasury : £ 625,000
Transfer Budget : £525,000

and then he started with his typical deep laughter... the venerable members thought he had lost it. The shock, maybe?

Tito carried on:
- "I don't care about money. Money does no win football games. Passion, guts and talent do and those at least the former two, you don't buy - you generate". And he left the room.

He met with his staff members - coaches, scouts and physios. He knew most of them and they had some respect for the man he was and for his ways. The club and its players needed discipline and guidance, that much they knew. Tito Forbs respected these guys, they had been trying their best under the circumstances. He told them they were all welcome in his team. They sighed in relief. He took Pedro Figueiredo by the arm, the 34 year-old ex Vitoria defender who had just retired and was now a fresh new scout. "Pedro, meet me in my office in 5mn. I have a mission for you."

As Pedro entered Tito Forbs' office when he told him to enter, he was handed a large enveloppe.

- "Open it Pedro. This is your first mission. Inside you'll find a plane ticket, you're taking off in 2 hours."
Pedro looked at the travel itinerary, and he immediately understood what this was about.
- "coach, you're not serious are you? he's about to retire, he's old and unfit, some say he is depressed. There's nothing left in him".
- "Pedro, I've never been more serious in my entire life. I want him back at the club and I will have him. You've played with him, he will listen to you. You'll find his contract in the enveloppe : £2,700/w, that's all I can afford. Get him to sign it and don't come back on these premises without him."
Pedro Figueiredo rushed out. Livid.

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Note to readers : find out the name of the player Pedro Figueiredo must sign !

RuiEsteves
10-05-14, 11:06 PM
I've got a few questions for the experts on here :

1/ no reserves team ! except the very big clubs, others seem to have no reserve team (unlike in CM3 98/99). Is there an option which can be activated somewhere? otherwise it means all youngsters will never get any game time, which won't do any good to their attributes...

2/ when looking at a club's squads (mine included) I have noticed some players have a star next to their name. What does it mean?

3/ does anyone know when the summer transfer window for Portugal Primeira Liga closes? what about other transfer windows in the year?

4/ Sporting CP, the *$§+, have been poaching 2 of my scouts, quadrupling their wages! all they need to do is offer them a contract and then I cannot do anything to prevent them from leaving. All I get in return is a compensation fee. That had never happened to me in CM3 98/99. Is this intended? what's the parade? attrition on coaching squad must be huge...

5/ does anyone know the in-game penalty, if any, for playing a M-C as a DM-C?

RuiEsteves
10-05-14, 11:32 PM
Tito Forbs did not like modern football, it was no secret. He did not like the current trend of seeing fewer and fewer Portuguese nationals in the Primeira Liga squads - at this rate, the championship would be no better in this respect than the English Premier League! for one Mario Jardel there were truckloads of Brazilian prima donas who were travelling to the mother land for the paycheck without putting in the required efforts. He wanted none of this. He remembered fondly of the times when most of Portugal's 1st Division foreigners came from the African colonies. So he set to himself a few simple rules which he should follow at all times during his mandate :

- on each and every match sheet, Vitoria's starting XI should be comprised of a minimum of 7 Portuguese nationals (dual-citizenship accepted)
- any non-Portuguese player on the match sheet should either bear (i) an African nationality (subsaharan Africa only, ie excluding all nations, going clockwise, from Mauritania to Egypt/Sudan), or (ii) Brazilian.
- maximum 2 (non-Portuguese) Brazilians in any Vitoria starting XI
- any player wanting out of the club, for whichever reason, should not be retained more than obviously necessary (ie a few months). Forbs wants only dedicated and motivated players to play for him.
- effort should be made to field home-grown players, when possible
- total squad members should not be too high (target: below 30 players)

RuiEsteves
10-05-14, 11:59 PM
This was not too much of a worry for Tito. Setubal had 2 strong keepers and the concern was more on who would be in the starting XI.

Forbs went for the experience of the almost 36 years old international veteran Pedro Espinha, who had just been recruited by the club. He was solid and determined, whether he could deliver was soon to be discovered.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/PEspinha-290701_zpsb1d8d1c4.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/PEspinha-290701_zpsb1d8d1c4.png.html)

But Forbs also made it clear to the city boy, younger Marco Tabuas, that his time would come and he needed be patient. Aged only 24, Marco Tabuas already had solid skills and still probably, a margin of progression.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/MTabuas-290701_zpsaadf508d.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/MTabuas-290701_zpsaadf508d.png.html)

There was no hope in young Rodrigo, he was transfer listed.

Forbs knew in an out the lower leagues, he had coached in them for years and years, and had eyes and ears in almost every club. There was one young keeper he wanted, because he knew he had phenomenal potential :


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/HPinheiro-040801_zps0f868b2e.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/HPinheiro-040801_zps0f868b2e.png.html)

He joined for a ridiculous £5,000 transfer fee + £2,000 sign-on fee, and a £170/w wage.

ClayDatsusara
11-05-14, 05:44 AM
I just read Tito Forbs words in Mourinho's voice... Admit it, Jose Mourinho should have started his career coaching Vitoria and I think he will eventually do it. This story should be Mourinho's story if we was coaching Setubal back in the day.

About Marco Tabuas, I don't remember a more spectacular gk than him. He was capable of the best and the worst. I always wanted to see Vitoria's games highlits to see what whether he was MOM or he made a huge miscalculation coming out of the goal.

Good luck on your challenge. I'll try to answer your doubts:




1/ no reserves team ! except the very big clubs, others seem to have no reserve team (unlike in CM3 98/99). Is there an option which can be activated somewhere? otherwise it means all youngsters will never get any game time, which won't do any good to their attributes...

There are no reserve teams in Portugal in CM0102, except for the B teams (Benfica, Porto, Sporting, Braga, Maritimo, Olhanense and Academica). Setubal had a B team irl but only between 2005 and 2007.


2/ when looking at a club's squads (mine included) I have noticed some players have a star next to their name. What does it mean?

The three starred players are the stars of the team. It's a feature that was included in previous versions of the game, I think. They do not reflect the ability os the said players, but only their reputation within the team.



3/ does anyone know when the summer transfer window for Portugal Primeira Liga closes? what about other transfer windows in the year?

I don«t know the exact dates, but I'd say the summer market window ends in the end of September and then it opens the 15th of December and closes one month after, but I may be wrong.



4/ Sporting CP, the *$§+, have been poaching 2 of my scouts, quadrupling their wages! all they need to do is offer them a contract and then I cannot do anything to prevent them from leaving. All I get in return is a compensation fee. That had never happened to me in CM3 98/99. Is this intended? what's the parade? attrition on coaching squad must be huge...

Your scouts must have a big reputation and big teams will eventually try to sign those.



5/ does anyone know the in-game penalty, if any, for playing a M-C as a DM-C?

I guess that you'll have to try them there, and they might perform well if they have the needed atts for that position. Notice that if in the editor a midfielder has high values (above 15) for DMC, MC and AMC, he will end up showing in the game just as MC, so your MC can have DMC hidden values and perform well as a DMC.


About your scout's target signing, would it be... Rui Esteves?

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 07:50 AM
Yeah, i'm a rare bread by supporting exclusively such a "small" club when almost everyone else in this country supports the "big 3". In fact we produced an amazing 2nd half in the league and we have the chance to end in 6th place (we're waiting for Maritimo's result in the tomorrow's game) altough not enough no secure an european place. Nevertheless an amazing performance since we have such a low budget.

I noticed it was better in the latter part of this year but had not realized 6th spot was in sight. Good! how have the crowd numbers been lately? also I was watching Benfica v Juve the other day and noticed only 1 (!!) Portuguese player starting the game. What do fans and people at large say about this? is it just accepted as a normal and inevitable trend, or is there resistance?



The new stadium project has been put on hold due to economic divergences with the city counsil and having an instable board in the past 3 years didn't help much. We need to wait and see... I'm not that big of a fan of moving the stadium to a zone so far away from the city.

Yeah, neither am I. It might be more convenient traffic and parking wise, it just takes some soul away from the city. Bonfim seems great where it is, with the little church nearby. I thought the project was to renovate it, had misunderstood. I like for instance what they did in Funchal with Barreiros.

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 08:13 AM
I just read Tito Forbs words in Mourinho's voice... Admit it, Jose Mourinho should have started his career coaching Vitoria and I think he will eventually do it. This story should be Mourinho's story if we was coaching Setubal back in the day.

:) quite possibly.
Oddly, I don't think José Mourinho has ever tried to coach Setubal back in his early days, when he was with Leiria... not sure why. But the issue is that José Mourinho is already in the game in CM01/02, coaching... FC Porto. And there is a surprise coming later on, because if you look at the tactics screenshot I have posted above in the thread, you might guess where will be Vitoria's first game of the season!! in any case Tito Forbs is a little different from Mourinho. First he is much older (in his 60's), and he is much more "traditional", trying to go back to Portugal's perceived golden years instead of wanting to modernize and revolutionize football like José Mourinho wanted to (and to some extent, has). I think of Forbs more like a Giovanni Trapattoni, just much less successfull in his career so far. I have got José's father (Felix) in my coaching squad though!



About Marco Tabuas, I don't remember a more spectacular gk than him. He was capable of the best and the worst. I always wanted to see Vitoria's games highlits to see what whether he was MOM or he made a huge miscalculation coming out of the goal.

Interesting, I did not know. He had a great run at the club, is he Vitoria's most megendary keeper in a Hall of Fame? Also what can you tell me about Pedro Espinha? In any case both of those keepers are going to receive I would guess, a huge challenge from Hugo Pinheiro...



There are no reserve teams in Portugal in CM0102, except for the B teams (Benfica, Porto, Sporting, Braga, Maritimo, Olhanense and Academica). Setubal had a B team irl but only between 2005 and 2007.

That's a bummer. I've starting recruiting young players and that means they won't get playing time - unless I loan them out which I usually never do. I might have to do it, don't like the idea of them sitting doing nothing and getting rusted.



The three starred players are the stars of the team. It's a feature that was included in previous versions of the game, I think. They do not reflect the ability os the said players, but only their reputation within the team.

Ah thanks, this feature was not in CM3 98/99. I could not correlate it to international status or performance, now I get it.



I guess that you'll have to try them there, and they might perform well if they have the needed atts for that position. Notice that if in the editor a midfielder has high values (above 15) for DMC, MC and AMC, he will end up showing in the game just as MC, so your MC can have DMC hidden values and perform well as a DMC.

Thanks, I have already started trying them out as DMC. I don't have much choice anyway.



About your scout's target signing, would it be... Rui Esteves?

No. It was Ricardo Hugo and Pedro Martins. Rui Esteves is not in the game (well there's one very crap player who bears the same name, but he is 28 years old and that's not him).

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 08:22 AM
I have shortlisted around 200 players for recruitement (and we're not talking Luis Figo or João Pinto) and there are only... 30 who are interested in joining Setubal. With £500K as transfer budget and a max wage of £4K/w allowed by the board, it might be tougher than expected to set-up a decent squad...

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 08:55 AM
Both positions - DL & DR - were a concern to Forbs. Although their primary role amongst Os Guerreiros was defensive (they in particular had to cover behind on Vitoria's corner kicks), they were also expected to deliver long crossings in the box and be threats on their respective isles.

Forbs did not need Pessoa (19) and sold him for £12k to Ribeira Brava.

On the right hand-side, Forbs could count on 29 yr old international Fernando Nélson, just arrived from FC Porto (and ex Aston Villa). At £3k/w he had the highest wage of the squad. No doubt he was going to be one of the starting XI's pillar, but Tito was unsure whether he would be able to step-up to the level he expected him to be at. (Note: in CM3 98/99, F Nélson is hands down the best Portuguese DR in the game - he has been downgraded somewhat in CM01/02...).


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/FNelson-290701_zps5f7e40a7.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/FNelson-290701_zps5f7e40a7.png.html)

There was some cover options behind him: Paulo Filipe (22) and Nélson Veiga (23) both were decent, and youg Alfredo Almeida (18) was an interesting prospect for the future.

The left-hand side for more of a worry. Carlos (Martins), 28, had just arrived from Gil Vicente and he was going to have to be trusted as DL.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Carlos-290701_zpsf76dbc34.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Carlos-290701_zpsf76dbc34.png.html)

His sole back-up was Portuguese/French 26 yr-old Rui André, and he was under-par. Forbs knew he was on thin ice here.

He continued to scout for DL and DR, but candidates were very scarce (any good idea welcome!).

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 09:46 AM
Both DC's were key to Forbs. They had to be rock hard, the towers at the heart of the defense. Portugal had plenty of great players in that position (Jorge Costa, Fernando Couto...) but they were obviously completely out-of-reach. Here again the coach would have to rely on the players present in the squad, because of the scarcity of candidates willing to join. He tried as hard as he could to sign Taribo West who was on free transfer, but competition was too intense (in the end he went to... Dundee, on £4.5k/w).

- Carlos André (20) was transfered-out for £30k to Académica.
- Alain Pilar (21) was transfer-listed.

There were 2 new recruits just made by the club as Tito joined and he would have to go with them, although he thought they might be limited for the position.

Young Brazilian Hugo (Alcântara), 22, was promising and solid. But new to Portuguese football, and the coach had doubts about his motivation.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Hugo-290701_zpsb9a02157.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Hugo-290701_zpsb9a02157.png.html)

Hugo Costa (27) on the other hand, was a better known figure in Portuguese football. He was a good solid player, though nothing exceptional.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/HugoCosta-290701_zps5073e335.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/HugoCosta-290701_zps5073e335.png.html)

Forbs was not satisfied about the lack of recruits and the lack of depth as that position. He compensated with cheap recruitement of promising young players from the lower leagues, planning for the future:

- Ricardo Carmo (20), £5k from Marinhense
- Zé Pedro (20), £5K also from Marinhense
- Estica (18), on free transfer

They were however much too young and inexperienced for Primeira Liga football. Maybe they would be loaned-out.

(any good idea of recruitement in DC is welcome! - bearing in mind Forbs' self-imposed restrictions)

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 10:18 AM
Tito Forbs needed a captain. A man of confidence he could rely on, no matter what may come ahead. A man who could influence others. That man was in the squad and the almost 32 yr-old was already a Setubal legend (and a one-time Portuguese international).
http://www.zerozero.pt/jogador.php?id=392&search=1

They met; they got on well. He would lead Os Guerreiros for the 2001/02 season :


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Heacutelio-290701_zps69dab233.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Heacutelio-290701_zps69dab233.png.html)

The only issue was that he was a Central Midfielder, when the coach only wanted DMC's. Hélio was willing to adapt. He would play as the left-sided DMC, with an offensive role in that he would have to transform play and provide amunition for the attacking trio.

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 10:38 AM
In exactly 3 weeks (on Sunday Aug. 19th) was the first official game of the season, the prospect of which was already paralyzing, it seemed, the whole club - from board members to players, staff included. Setubal was playing FC Porto in their new home of the Dragão; after their 5-year spell as Portuguese champions (1995-1999), the great northern club had had to settle with vice-champions in 2000 (behind Sporting CP) and 2001 (behind the surprise of Boavista FC, who had an amazing season and became the only club after Belenenses to be crowned champs outside of the Tres Grandes); they surely wanted to impress on their first game of the season and kick-off with a good start.

A visit at FC Porto would usually end-up in a demolishment for the visiting team. Furthermore they were coached by young and ambitious coach José Mourinho.

Tito Forbs had to do something to diffuse tension. If Pedro Figueiredo was successfull in his mission, there would be the surprise signing Forbs expected, which would help. But something else was needed. The flavour of ancient victory was needed.

The coach had an idea. The legend of Vitoria was partially built on those great European games the club had in those days (1960's, 1970's) with huge crowds in Bonfim. Maybe some of those clubs they played against would be willing to visit? Tito picked up his phone and soon got one friendly game settled.

In 1974 the Belgium Antwerp-based club Beerschot played Setubal in the first round of the UEFA Cup. Vitoria won both games (2-0, 2-0).

The club had almost disappeared and had, much like Vitoria, fallen off from its glory days. But they were now back in Belgium First Division under a new name, having merged with Germinal Ekeren. It was decided that Germinal Beerschot Antwerpen (GBA) would visit Bonfim for a friendly game on Wednesday August 8. As a tribute to both clubs former European glory days.

11-05-14, 10:44 AM
Tito Forbs had to do something to diffuse tension. If Pedro Figueiredo was successfull in his mission, there would be the surprise signing Forbs expected, which would help.

:popcorn:

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 11:04 AM
The DMC's were the engine room of Tito Forbs customized Os Guerreiros tactic. They had to be insubmersible grafters, determined like warriors, fighting until the final whistle, ruining opposition attacking chances and setting up the right platform for Vitoria's attacking trio.

With Hélio as the captain and left-DMC, there were 2 slots left to be filled. Vitoria's squad was full of midfielders, most of which did not match the profile of players the coach wanted.

- Claudino (20) was transfered-out for £30k to Portimonense
- Costa (27) left for the Bundesliga 2 side Karlsruhe, for a £400k very much welcome compensation. He had been one of the interseason highlight recruits by the board, who tried to oppose the sale - in vain.
- The Angolan international Chipenda (32), 5 years at the club, was transfer-listed. He was a decent player and could be used as back-up in the meantime, but he did not have the caliber expected by Forbs for the position.

Forbs had always like the work rate and physical strength of Sandro (Mendes), 24. He fitted the role, despite being an MC. He could be found out limited in the longer run, but he would start the season as the right-sided DMC for the Guerreiros.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Sandro-290701_zps0d7959c5.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Sandro-290701_zps0d7959c5.png.html)

Now the coach needed his n°6. His Defensive, central DMC. The key position, the third central defender, a true warrior. He had a name in mind, a player he loved. He checked and he was once again snobbed by Benfica, line-up with their B side for the season. Luis Andrade was not hard to convince, for £1.2k/w and £250K compensation to Benfica. This player was a gem to Forbs, and he could not understand how he would not be an automatic starter for any side in the Primeira Liga.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/LAndrade-020801_zps34c7e1f8.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/LAndrade-020801_zps34c7e1f8.png.html)

The B-sides of Os Tres Grandes were full of gems, and Forbs needed more depth at DMC. He recruited a good prospect:

- Paulo Teixeira (20), for £75k from Sporting-B. He probably had enough skills to play as a sub this season. And most likely a great future ahead of him.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/PTeixeira-310701_zpse0f88eb5.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/PTeixeira-310701_zpse0f88eb5.png.html)

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 11:45 AM
In between the DMC's grafters and the Striker which Forbs saw as the anchor of the attack, were both Attacking Midfielders. Tito was unsure how to shape up the position, he was not very much versed into creativity and flairish style. He hesitated a lot. Should he look for pace so that they would open up opportunities on the wings? strength for scoring opportunities in the box? or flair and creativity, to create chances for the central Striker? he looked for advice from his assistant Rui Lopes and the coaching staff.

He decided there were far too many AMC's and wingers at the club, including a few of those over-rated Brazilians he disliked. He created shock & awe as he:

- transfered-out Brazilian Robson (26), for £65k to Bandeirante (Brazil ND3)
- transfered-out Angolan Celino (19), for £45k to Infesta
- transfered-out Portuguese high-flying prospect Vasco Matos (21), for a hefty £350k to Spanish D2 side Salamanca
- transfered-out Portuguese solid winger Sérgio Jorge (23) for a great £700k cash-boost, to Spanish D2 side Cordoba
- transfer-listed both Brazilian wingers Jorginho (24) and Jean Paulista (23), whom the club had just acquired...

The club was shaken, they felt Tito was undoing all their transfer-policy which they had decided after the promotion from Secunda Divisão last season. Critics started to become more vocal.

Forbs however gave a key role in his starting XI to one member of the squad: Marco Ferreira (23), still a young Portuguese talent with no doubt a great future. The coach was delighted with his attitude and incredible determination.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/MarcoFerreira-29701_zps72ccc1c8.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/MarcoFerreira-29701_zps72ccc1c8.png.html)

But who would be the right-sided AMC? Assistant Rui Lopes suggested a name. A player which scout Bruno Martins had supervised repeatedly over the summer, and who was targeted by more than a dozen European clubs (!). A young Brazilian.

- "another of your prima donna's"? barked Tito. "I've just sold one and transfer-listed two of those", he added.
- "boss, this one is different. I've seen him with my own eyes. Not only does he have amazing talent, but he won't frown upon teamwork. His background is humble and he plays in lower leagues, he has not been spoiled by money yet. He won't disappoint you".
- Forbs mumbled... "ok let's try him. I won't cough-out more than £50k for your wonder-kid, because I am eyeing on another, younger one. A Portuguese. And don't offer him a salary above that of Fernando Nélson - otherwise it will create tensions in the squad.".

This is how Vitoria Setubal signed your Brazilian (20) Marajo, for £40k and a wage of £2.9k/w.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Marajo-160801_zps8770bf39.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Marajo-160801_zps8770bf39.png.html)

Marco Ferreira - Marajo, this the duo that would have to bring in creativity to Os Guerreiros. Not an easy task!

11-05-14, 11:55 AM
So the big signing must be a striker!? Hmmmm who could it be...

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 11:58 AM
So the big signing must be a striker!? Hmmmm who could it be...
Yep. I guarantee he is BIG - just maybe not in the way you might think ;-)

How do you think the rest of the starting XI will do? solid? I really wanted at least one good recruit in the backs but they're damn hard to find, especially with the restrictions I put on myself.

Pedro Espinha
Fernando Nélson - Hugo Costa - Hugo - Carlos
Sandro - Luis Andrade - Hélio (c)
Marajo - Marco Ferreira
Mr X

11-05-14, 12:02 PM
Yep. I guarantee he is BIG - just maybe not in the way you might think ;-)

How do you think the rest of the starting XI will do? solid?

Pedro Espinha
Fernando Nélson - Hugo Costa - Hugo - Carlos
Sandro - Luis Andrade - Hélio (c)
Marajo - Marco Ferreira
Mr X

He is BIG? My guess was wrong... My player is 5' 7". :rolleyes:

Shaping up nicely I think.

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 12:11 PM
He is BIG? My guess was wrong... My play is 5' 7". :rolleyes:

more like 6' 3"

11-05-14, 12:35 PM
You will do well to sign him :ok:

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 01:22 PM
The same way Tito Forbs started re-building a youth squad for the club in the backs with the signings of Ricardo Carmo, Zé Pedro and Estica - he knew he had to do the same with the attack.

There was think young (20) Angolan/English AMC, Artur Correia who signed on free transfer. He had impressive skills and was certainly worth a try, and may be able to appear as a sub this season.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/ACorreia-030801_zps2f8468e2.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/ACorreia-030801_zps2f8468e2.png.html)

Setubal was rich with strikers but Forbs had had an eye for a long time on this young (20) lad from Oliveira do Bairro, Tiago Mota. He joined for £10k only, and could potentially develop into a very fine player.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/TMota-020801_zps5508dcfd.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/TMota-020801_zps5508dcfd.png.html)

And then there was him. He was only 16 yr-old but all in Tito's staff were amazed at how good the wonderkid was already. He was in Sporting B, who amazingly let him got for £750k. It was a huge sum for the club, but the coach convinced the board to invest, believing he had uncovered a gem. The wage was high also (£2.1k/w), but still affordable. He may even appear on several game sheets this season, precocious as he was:


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/CRonaldo-190801_zps99441f89.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/CRonaldo-190801_zps99441f89.png.html)

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 01:38 PM
This was THE area in which the club was rich - and still, Forbs would again change all plans and create frustration.

The club had made several key signings before Forbs was recruited, but they were particularly proud to have signed the star striker of 2nd Liga side Rio Ave, Brazilian/Portuguese Hugo Henrique (26). And yet, the coach decided to transfer-list him. The player went out fuming and came out in the press, the board had an emergency meeting with Tito but he would hear none of it.

- "I have a written bid by Porto of £1M. £1M, gentlemen. I am expecting the return of Pedro Figueiredo any time now, and he will be bring our starting XI center forward with him. We've got Rui Miguel, and Meyong, and Os Guerreiros only play with one striker. I don't need Henrique, and I can use the transfer fee elsewhere for the club's sake."

The board had to let go, and their star player went to Porto.

Forbs was right though. Rui Miguel (26) was a very solid striker option, ticking all the boxes.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/RuiMiguel-290701_zpsb10262fa.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/RuiMiguel-290701_zpsb10262fa.png.html)

And young (20) Cameroonian Albert Meyong was very talented with for sure, a great future.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Mayong-290701_zps4212408b.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Mayong-290701_zps4212408b.png.html)

And yet, both would be subs this season. Pedro Figueiredo had been gone for 6 days now, and no news. Tito Forbs was getting really nervous now.

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 01:48 PM
Sunday August 5th, 2001

The club premises were empty except for Tito Forbs who, after early Sunday morning mass, was working in his office overlooking Bonfim. There was a knock on the door. Pedro Figueiredo's exhausted face appeared in the door frame, waved at Tito, and stepped back. He came in, towering like a mountain. The legend was back home.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/RYekini-050801_zpsfaf8ef5b.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/RYekini-050801_zpsfaf8ef5b.png.html)

Strength = 20
Jumping = 17
Pace = 17
Finishing = 20
Bravery = 18
Balance = 17
Agility = 17

Seriously, what a beast of a striker. Free transfer. He was on £2.7k/w.

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 01:58 PM
The great footballer Rashidi Yekini sadly passed away in 2012, in Ibadan (Nigeria). RIP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidi_Yekini

He will forever remain a legend at Vitoria Setubal, where he played from 1990 to 1994, scoring an amazing 90 goals for 108 games. He made a brief come-back at the club in 1997 (3 goals in 14 appearances). He also scored an incredible 37 goals for the great Nigerian selection of the 1980's/1990's.

This is one example of the feats he achieved while at Vitoria: the thrashing of Benfica (5-2) at Bonfim in 1993/94.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyvJFWkW0F8
That season he was top goalscorer of the Primeira Liga (21 goals), a feat no Setubal player had accomplished since Francisco Rodrigues in 1944 and 1945.

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 02:21 PM
The rumour started to spread like fire throughout the city: "Yekini is back! he is back! he will play on Wednesday!". Tito was smiling: he had succeeded in diverting the focus from the Porto game. Everyone's mind was on the friendly vs Beerschot on Wednesday August 8th at Bonfim, and everyone wanted to see their hero under the green and white striped shirt one more time.

- "He's 37 Tito. He was about to retire. Pedro told us he was kind of depressed in his Ibadan house when he arrived, and it took him 4 days to convince him he could still play top-level football".
- "You cannot be serious, boss. We let Hugo Henrique go, the best striker of Secunda, for this grand-father in a wheelchair. He won't last one even one half. We will be forced to use him like a sub for the crowd to cheer 10' before the game ends, they will like it for a while but soon they'll get bored and Rashidi will lose any confidence he may have left in him".

Forbs replied to the internal criticism of his staff, who once again thought he was mental:
- "He will start all our games until Christmas - injury excepted. He's the perfect striker for the job in my Guerreiros team. I would not trade him even for Mario Jardel."

On August 8th 2001 Europe finally returned to Setubal. The crowd, athough modest, amounted to almost 5k for a mid-week, mid-summer pre-season friendly. It was not bad. It was a pleasant evening at Bonfim.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/VS-GBA-080801_zps329b6f97.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/VS-GBA-080801_zps329b6f97.png.html)

There were 6 new recruits who had never wore the jersey in the starting XI, so the first half was a little messy. Marco Ferreira scored from a nice floor kick from a distance but the Flemmish looked dangerous, and Forbs spotted weaknesses in his rear-guard. Upfront Rashidi Yekini physical presece was still amazing and he was playing as if in the world cup final. He was rusted a bit, hit the crossbar and then the post; when he finally scored from a powerful header around the hour, Bonfim erupted. Os Guerreiros ended the evening in complete domination of their opponents, whom they finally overpowered (3-0).

The game at the Dragão was in 10 days. Forbs had turned around, in very little time, a paralyzed and heterogeneous squad into a set of motivated players, inspired by their 37 yr-old center Striker. They were ready to move mountains. Tito Forbs was back in business.

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 02:54 PM
The FC Porto squad was impressive: Vitor Baia, Jorge Costa, Ricardo Carvalho, Paulinho Santos, Alenitchev, Jankauskas, Deco, and many more... sure Deco was out injured for the game, but nevertheless Forbs doubted. Would his Guerreiros withstand the pressure of the Dragão? would his central guard contain the formidable attackers they would be facing? would young Marco Ferreira and Marajo (first game in Portugal) be crushed by pressure and the host's defense?

José Mourhino on his side, was torn. He was from Setubal and his own father was within the ranks of his opposition. Nevertheless, he had to make a show of the pre-match press conference.

- "Forbs? never heard the name before."
- "I personally decided to transfer-out Fernandon Nélson to Setubal. He is a good player, but I wanted very good players to play for me this season."
- "Yekini? his contribution to the game will be to increase the number of visiting fans from 50 to 75. More gate revenue for us".
- "We need to take Vitoria seriously, despite the fact that they were in Secunda last season. This game will be a perfect warm-up session ahead of our clash vs Rosenborg in the last Champions' Cup Qualifying Round".

Tito Forbs hated press conferences. He kept his intervention to a minimum.
- "here is my starting XI. They are Guerreiros, and they will travel to win the game".
Journalists burst out laughing in the room...

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 03:08 PM
August 19th, 2001

The big night had arrived for Tito Forbs. His first game in the Primeria Liga, at the age of 63 (!). It was unbelievably hot in Porto, in spite of which 26,000 fans filled the stands of the mighty Dragão.

Sure the Sadinhos were nervous, and they started the game under pressure from Porto. As they seemed to level the playing field and withstand pressure, the hosts found the net twice within 7 minutes. First it was Maniche on the 23', who picked up a ball just inside the box and left no chance to Pedro Espinha with a low shot just inside the post. (1-0). The Porto midfield dominated with César Peixoto, and a terrible blow was handed by Lithuanian Edgaras Jankauskas when he jumped higher than the unfortunate Pedro Espinha and scored the second goal with a header (30').

It all seemed too easy. Nevertheless, Os Guerreiros did not collapse entirely and looking at it closely, that first half had been much more balanced than the scoreboard showed (2-0).

Nobody knows exactly what Tito Forbs told his players at half-time, but for years everyone will remember what happened immediately after that :


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/VS-FCP-190801_zpsf225877a.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/VS-FCP-190801_zpsf225877a.png.html)

Setubal had shocked the Primeiria Liga on the very first game of the season.

11-05-14, 03:09 PM
Fantastic story. But...

:eek:

You sell Hugo Henrique for a 37 year old striker!? Don't get me wrong I like his stats, here I thought you were looking to bring http://foradejogo.net/images/players/196604170002.png back!

- - - Updated - - -

Good comeback :ok:

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 03:25 PM
Captain Hélio stepped up and came out firing all cylinders from half-time. It was him who drove the ball forward on the 54' and scored with a powerful floor shot (2-1). Porto was taken by the throat, and groggy when following a heated situation in their own box, the power of Rashidi Yekini enabled him to score from close range. The Dragão went silent (2-2). 2' later the ref disallowed a goal for Maniche for a very narrow offisde position, which infuriated Mourinho and his players.

From that moment Porto was out of the game and were dominated head & shoulders by the Guerreiros. They had no solution to counter the big Nigerian, who delivered a beautiful header for Marajo's volley (2-3, 65'). Marco Ferreira made the victory even sweeter in the 85', and at this rate Setubal could have easily scored another goal. They ended up with 15 shots (9 on target), vs 2 (both on target) for FC Porto.


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/VS-FCP-tacs-190801_zps8a17b997.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/VS-FCP-tacs-190801_zps8a17b997.png.html)

A team was born. Tito Forbs was proud of his warriors beyond belief. They had overcome a 2 goal gap at half-time at the Dragão, because of their superior determination and bravery. On guts, just like Tito had dreamt it; he refused to sub any of those 11 players who had started the game, it was their victory and no one else's. It was a huge slap in the face to FC Porto and José Mourinho. Where would Setubal stop now?

ClayDatsusara
11-05-14, 03:48 PM
Interesting, I did not know. He had a great run at the club, is he Vitoria's most legendary keeper in a Hall of Fame? Also what can you tell me about Pedro Espinha? In any case both of those keepers are going to receive I would guess, a huge challenge from Hugo Pinheiro...


I wouldnt say Tabuas is the most legendary keeper in the history of the club, far from it, but he seemed to represent those yoyo years, when the club was going up and down divisions. He seemed spectacularly solid on some occasions and comically incompetent on others. Silvino is maybe the last great GK to have come out of Setubal. But you should get Luis Russo's opinion on that ;)

Pedro Espinha had a good running back in the day: Belenenses, Salgueiros, Vitoria SC, then he jumped to Porto, where he was only a sub, but before that he was even called to the national team. When he got to Setubal he wason the descending end of his career but still one of the best in his position. Tabuas wouldnt stand a chance in a normal day. Hugo Pinheiro... well, he's a CM legend ;)

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 05:21 PM
@Zé: Henry Makinwa, right? I checked, he is with Farense and his stats are not so impressive. Much less so than big Rashidi. I also tried Chiquinho Conde but at 35, he's past it. Fernando Co (Nando) could have played the part but again, Yekini is just so much more impressive.

I did not sell Hugo Henrique for Yekini, I sold Henrique for £1M. And as I said I have plenty of good strikers (Rui Miguel, Meyong). Now maybe I undersold Henrique (he was sub for FC Porto against us btw), but I don't know the cm0102 ODB and don't know the exact potential of that player. And I needed cash...

I don't know where this is going but in any case, just for that great victory at Porto, I don't regret getting Yekini. He was MoM and without him, we would have not won. He had plenty of opportunities and a huge presence, while he was being marked by... Jorge Costa and Ricardo Carvalho !

RuiEsteves
11-05-14, 05:52 PM
@ClayDatsusara: thanks for those insights on Portuguese goalkeeping history! my dream would have been to sign Ricardo (just like I used to do in cm98/99), but being the keeper of champions Boavista he was never going to be very much interested.

Pedro Espinha has not impressed Forbs during that Porto game. He could not do much on Maniche's first goal, but he completely mis-timed his run on the 2nd goal which saw Jankauskas head the ball in an empty net.

I know about Pinheiro, so he might settle the GK issue rather soon.

ClayDatsusara
11-05-14, 11:58 PM
@ClayDatsusara: thanks for those insights on Portuguese goalkeeping history! my dream would have been to sign Ricardo (just like I used to do in cm98/99), but being the keeper of champions Boavista he was never going to be very much interested..

Curiously, that Ricardo would play at Vitoria FC irl after his failed adventure abroad. He was never a real option though and made no impact at Setubal.

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 02:49 AM
Curiously, that Ricardo would play at Vitoria FC irl after his failed adventure abroad. He was never a real option though and made no impact at Setubal.
Yeah it is a pity that his career took such a u-turn once he went to Betis. I checked and he played only... 3 games with Setubal in 2011-2012. Now plays with Olhanense, 38 yr-old.

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 03:12 AM
Transfer window for Liga Sagres closing on September 1st ! that's much sooner than expected and my squad lacks depth.

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 04:11 AM
August 27th, 2001

Besides a 10-day injury picked-up by Fernando Nélson, it was a very much focused and uneventful week in Setubal ahead of the clash at Bonfim vs Maritimo Funchal, who have just qualified for UEFA Cup 1st round. Forbs knows he has set-up his team nicely for the start of the season and is confident.

Os Guerreiros deliver a solid game and overcome their opponents, allowing them no shot on target.


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Brazilian Central Defender Hugo shows a lot of composure and is MoM. Yekini hits the crossbar, but scores again for his official Bonfim come-back with a powerful strike from inside the box.

Concerned about his squad's lack of depth, Forbs signs young (20) DC Ricardo Costa, for £70k from FC Porto B.

Baron Zbimg
12-05-14, 08:26 AM
Really a great start to the story mate, great tone. Only worry is that iy's going to be too easy.
Yekini is an old beast, but still a beast, would have been awesome in Wato's Over 35 story.

Kingsley
12-05-14, 08:45 AM
Just back after a few days away and I find a new story and a new story teller. Welcome to the club ! I can't remember the last story based in Portugal and being written by someone who has not played much cm01/02, this is going to be fresh.

Fantastic start and some good signings (although I'm not convinced by the 37 year old striker. Over 33 and most players deteriorate quite quickly, especially in the physical attributes. Some of the other signings look quite good. I wonder if that 20 year old forward will come to anything - probably a name we'll never hear again :-)

Bringing back memories of some great Portuguese players in the ODB and .68 updates, in cluding one of my favourite ever, a young DMC. I won't tell you his famous name. I'll let you find him.

Just wanted to correct something which Clay said ......


I guess that you'll have to try them there, and they might perform well if they have the needed atts for that position. Notice that if in the editor a midfielder has high values (above 15) for DMC, MC and AMC, he will end up showing in the game just as MC, so your MC can have DMC hidden values and perform well as a DMC.

In the editor, a player is given a rating of 1-20 for their suiability to a possition or side. If the score is 15 or over, they get that listed on screen as one of the prefered positions. For a Midfielder, the DM position always takes preference, so a player with DM 15, M 18 and AM 20 will show up as a DM, even though that is his weekest position. Next preference is for AMC, so if he is DM 14, M 20, AM 15, again he will show up as an AM when again it is not his strongest.

If you want to know whether your DM can play further forward, use the player compare screen and compare him to a goalkeeper. You will see star values for all the midfield positions he can play.

Hope you can keep this up

LR
12-05-14, 07:13 PM
4/ Sporting CP, the *$§+, have been poaching 2 of my scouts, quadrupling their wages! all they need to do is offer them a contract and then I cannot do anything to prevent them from leaving. All I get in return is a compensation fee. That had never happened to me in CM3 98/99. Is this intended? what's the parade? attrition on coaching squad must be huge...

Sometimes increasing your wanted staff wages prevent them to leave your club or at least delays the move. Once i reach the wage limit, i wave some cash as a prize signature.


I noticed it was better in the latter part of this year but had not realized 6th spot was in sight. Good! how have the crowd numbers been lately? also I was watching Benfica v Juve the other day and noticed only 1 (!!) Portuguese player starting the game. What do fans and people at large say about this? is it just accepted as a normal and inevitable trend, or is there resistance?

The average club attendance was around 3000 per match, something like 20% of the stadium current capacity. When the games are played in the afternoons that number increases a wee more. In the other hand Vitória's supporters like to travel when the club plays abroad. I wouldn't be amazed if our supporters are the most numerous appart of the big 3 at away matches. The foreign flood you're talking about is not that new, so i guess everyone complains but no one (FPF & Liga) gives a crap and don't have the balls to implement more rigid rules about it. Hail to the brand new Decos, Liedsons and Pepes to the national squad. :ohwell:


Yeah, neither am I. It might be more convenient traffic and parking wise, it just takes some soul away from the city. Bonfim seems great where it is, with the little church nearby. I thought the project was to renovate it, had misunderstood. I like for instance what they did in Funchal with Barreiros.

We also have a beautiful garden, some fine restaurants and "esplanadas" around the stadium, and in Marateca, the place they are considering building the new one, we only have a bunch of sick pine trees.

12-05-14, 07:21 PM
so i guess everyone complains but no one (FPF & Liga) gives a crap and don't have the balls to implement more rigid rules about it. Hail to the brand new Decos, Liedsons and Pepes to the national squad. :ohwell:

:puke:

We once had this to look forward to:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_ooR3hrSExs/Tk-x5nKI-_I/AAAAAAAAAxY/Iph86Xo9tnU/s1600/FG347_Portugal91.jpg

And yes we have Ronaldo but does it make up for these:

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Only one of the big three promote youth players :ok: It's not enough.

ClayDatsusara
12-05-14, 07:27 PM
Just wanted to correct something which Clay said ......



In the editor, a player is given a rating of 1-20 for their suiability to a possition or side. If the score is 15 or over, they get that listed on screen as one of the prefered positions. For a Midfielder, the DM position always takes preference, so a player with DM 15, M 18 and AM 20 will show up as a DM, even though that is his weekest position. Next preference is for AMC, so if he is DM 14, M 20, AM 15, again he will show up as an AM when again it is not his strongest.

If you want to know whether your DM can play further forward, use the player compare screen and compare him to a goalkeeper. You will see star values for all the midfield positions he can play.

Hope you can keep this up

Thanks for the correction Eejit ;)

ClayDatsusara
12-05-14, 07:34 PM
Only one of the big three promote youth players :ok: It's not enough.

C'mon Zé, don't be so harsh on the other two big clubs: Porto tried to promote Tozé, they even gave him one match to show himself. And I believe Sporting has one or two players coming really good from their academy.... :P

LR
12-05-14, 07:36 PM
I wouldnt say Tabuas is the most legendary keeper in the history of the club, far from it, but he seemed to represent those yoyo years, when the club was going up and down divisions. He seemed spectacularly solid on some occasions and comically incompetent on others. Silvino is maybe the last great GK to have come out of Setubal. But you should get Luis Russo's opinion on that ;)

Silvino ws probably the most notorious gk that came out of Vitória's ranks. He started to play at the club in his younger years not as a footballer but as an handball player :) There were others who had decent spells at the club, such as Jorge Martins who ended his career here and don't forget he was selected as the 3rd gk in the portuguese national squad in Mexico 86.

Marco Tábuas was agile sun of a gun but his goal positioning was shite. But we love the guy cause he feels the club and was a key player in the dressing room. He was nicknamed Tubarão (the shark) :D Dunno why...

LR
12-05-14, 07:49 PM
You're already kicking ass!!

Yekini was a great buy even for a year time. He still has some decent stats and he's a legend at Bonfim :ok:

Hélio :love: :rockon: :hail:

12-05-14, 08:08 PM
C'mon Zé, don't be so harsh on the other two big clubs: Porto tried to promote Tozé, they even gave him one match to show himself. And I believe Sporting has one or two players coming really good from their academy.... :P

One match? :tsk:

I like what Sporting do with their youth :ok:

Benfica & Porto owe a duty to Portuguese football, one they are doing nothing to uphold. It has a domino effect...

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 08:27 PM
Really a great start to the story mate, great tone. Only worry is that iy's going to be too easy.
Yekini is an old beast, but still a beast, would have been awesome in Wato's Over 35 story.
Thanks Baron. Actually Tito Forbs is struggling a bit as you will find out later. Yekini started off great and then picked-up an injury after a few games. Since he recovered, he ain't the same anymore... also I have 2 key players letting me down, probably because I am not using them the proper way: Fernando Nélson and my captain, Hélio. So it's a real challenge (for me).

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 08:35 PM
Thanks Eejit.



Fantastic start and some good signings (although I'm not convinced by the 37 year old striker. Over 33 and most players deteriorate quite quickly, especially in the physical attributes. Some of the other signings look quite good. I wonder if that 20 year old forward will come to anything - probably a name we'll never hear again :-)

I'll post tonight the following games, you're right about the veteran striker. Which 20 yr-old forward do you mean? the one I have in mind is only 16 :-)



Bringing back memories of some great Portuguese players in the ODB and .68 updates, in cluding one of my favourite ever, a young DMC. I won't tell you his famous name. I'll let you find him.

I keep an eye on a few of them. Petit is out of reach, but both Ednilson and Bosingwa would fit perfectly into my story and are interested in joining. But I would have to cough up a lot of quids and I have so few that I need to spend wisely during the christmas mercato. I also hope I made the right pick with Paulo Teixeira, he's already delivered a few good games and he is still young.



In the editor, a player is given a rating of 1-20 for their suiability to a possition or side. If the score is 15 or over, they get that listed on screen as one of the prefered positions. For a Midfielder, the DM position always takes preference, so a player with DM 15, M 18 and AM 20 will show up as a DM, even though that is his weekest position. Next preference is for AMC, so if he is DM 14, M 20, AM 15, again he will show up as an AM when again it is not his strongest.

Ah thanks, that is the kind of information only this site can bring. So it means that statistically it is more risky to use an MC as DMC, than the other way round. I'll try the compare players trick you mentioned. Thanks again, this could explain why I have Sandro (Mendes), an MC, performing solidly as DMC while Hélio, another MC, is delivering mediocre performances for me as DMC while he clearly has the attributes to be much better.

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 08:42 PM
You're already kicking ass!!

Those were the first 2 games. I have played a lot more now and I have sadly lost my initial form!



Yekini was a great buy even for a year time. He still has some decent stats and he's a legend at Bonfim :ok:

Yeah in any case I needed him for the story, he was on free transfer and just for that game he won almost by himself at Porto he was worth it (how many times have Setubal won at FC Porto in the Liga, in their History?)



Hélio :love: :rockon: :hail:

Sorry to disappoint you, but he's failing on me. Probably my fault, I'll post on that later.

Can you tell me (and other Portuguese posters) what kind of player Fernando Nélson was? and how he did at Vitoria? and in the Seleção? cheers

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 08:45 PM
And yes we have Ronaldo but does it make up for these:

True. But you still have an exciting squad capable of a good run (and maybe more) in Brazil. Serious talent in every department, and a world-class player one of the few who can decide a game by himself.

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 08:55 PM
September 8th, 2001

It is one of those football rivalries which seem to have existed forever without anyone remembering exactly how it started. Probably because of the commonality in the names – both Vitoria’s and each claiming precedent over the other, maybe also because of the north/south divide, and more likely because both Guimarães and Setubal have consistently been two of the best Portuguese clubs behind O Tres Grandes.

With 2 wins in 2 games, Forbs heads a fully confident squad for the trip to Afonso Henriques. But he knows how tough a game it will be. Guimarães finished 15th the previous season, but they’ve got more talent in their ranks than this.

The battle of the Vitoria’s is intense from the very first minute. Os Guerreiros have faith in their game plan and put a lot of pressure, but the flashy winger Lixa who scores first (30’). It is only justice when Hugo equalizes with a powerful header just 5’ later, and it takes a great Jérôme Palatsi in the goals to help the locals keep the score even at half-time (1-1). The crowd pushes and... obtains a very generous penalty from the ref (2-1, 50’), but again Os Guerreiros show mental fortitude and equalize by a determined Sandro (2-2, 63’). The scenario looks strangely similar to that of the Dragão 3 weeks back, with a very dominant Setubal - only this time the Gods of football will not favour Tito Forbs.


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Hélio picks up an injury (out for a month) and it changes the momentum of the game. Setubal’s defense suddenly looks shaky, Rafael gives an edge for Guimarães (3-2, 75’) and things get even tougher when Hugo also leaves the pitch injured (out for 3 weeks). In the end it is a very tough defeat to swallow (4-2) for Tito’s boys, given how dominant they have been. The rear guard does not look solid, neither does Pedro Espinha. Worse, 2 key members of the starting XI are out injured, Hélio and Hugo. Rashidi Yekine will carry the arm band in the mean time.

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 09:03 PM
September 16th, 2001 – Vitoria Setubal v Gil Vicente : 2-0

At home Os Guerreiros deliver another solid performance in spite of the combined absence of captain Hélio and their inspired DC, Hugo. They prevail (2-0) over an uninspired Gil Vicente; Rashidi Yekini is once again MoM, but picks-up a 3 weeks injury during extra time. It is exactly how Tito Forbs feared it might happen. A streak of injuries to several of his key starters (Hugo, Hélio and Yekini) are starting to weigh on a squad which lacks depth.

September 23rd, 2001

SC Braga travel to Bonfim. They are a dangerous side (finished 4th of the Liga in the previous season) and will deliver a good game in Setubal, always looking for opportunities in attack. A draw would have been fairer, but in the end Vitoria suffers its first home defeat (1-2) under Tito Forbs :


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The back four, especially Fernando Nélson and Carlos on the sides, look vulnerable; Luis Andrade has fought like a lion in midfield (MoM), but neither Albert Meyong nor Rui Miguel (who came in as sub), managed to have the same weight on the game as Yekini. Teenager (16) Christiano Ronaldo made his professional debuts and looked dangerous. Bad luck continues with Marajo picking yet again, a 3 weeks injury.

With (3W, 2D) after 5 games, Forbs is not satisfied. He is however convinced that his tactical scheme works and that the players have adapted well to it; but he remains concerned about the lack of depth of the squad and the fact that he was unabled to recruit a defender of a high calibre.

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 09:11 PM
September 29th, 2001

Deprived of 4 starters (Hugo, Hélio, Marajo and Yekini), Vitoria travels to a struggling Leiria (17th of the Liga). With the young Ricardo Costa solid in the back, a superb Paulo Teixeira in the midfield, a good Meyong and an inspired Rui Miguel as striker (MoM), Forbs’ Guerreiros will dominate the game in style from start to finish.


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The scoreline (1-2) does not reflect how much superior Setubal were on the day. Both Renato for Leiria, and Carlos later on for the visitors, pick up a red. Dedication and never giving up: that’s exactly what Tito wanted from his lads; a week after that home defeat vs Braga, they get their 3pts back on the road. Just in time before the very much welcome early October international break.

October 14th, 2001 – Vitoria Setubal v Moreirense : 1-0

There’s an unusually large crowd in Bonfim (~15k) for the reception of promoted side Moreirense, with the return of all injured players for Guerreiros. All the more surprising that they deliver such a lame game, creating very few chances for themselves while Moreirense will look dangerous throughout the afternoon. Marajo is fortunate to head the ball in the net on the 74’ (1-0).

After two unlucky defeats at Guimarães (2-4) and vs Braga (1-2), this time fortune is with Tito Forbs whose team is now top of the Liga Sagres after 7 rounds !


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RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 09:21 PM
October 21st, 2001 – Santa Clara v Vitoria Setubal : 3-1

Travelling to the Açores is always a hassle for any professional football team, whatever the division. This season the islanders of Santa Clara, just promoted from Segunda, are on fire at home and they demolish Os Guerreiros in a terrific first half (3-0). Setubal will fight back and take control of the game in the second half, but manage to get only one goal back on a penalty kick. While Luis Andrade is immense in midfield, the attack suffers with Rashidi Yekini missing many chances and having less impact than 2 months ago when he arrived, and Marco Ferreira not being very efficient neither.


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October 28th, 2001 – Vitoria Setubal v Nacional Madeira : 0-0

Other islanders on the menu for Vitoria, this time the chaps from Madeira (also just promoted) who have clearly travelled to the continent with the intent to draw points. They succeed (0-0) thanks to early saves from their keeper and a generally uninspired Setubal.

November 4th, 2001 – Beira-Mar v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0

Setubal now play Beira-Mar away, who are currently standing last in the table. Meyong is starting as striker ahead of an out-of-form Yekini, while Rui Miguel is out injured. The poor run of form of the Guerreiros continues. The locals don’t really look dangerous and have one of their defenders red-carded just before half-time. Yet, unable to build-up momentum in offense and exposed defensively, Vitoria fails to score a single goal and manages to lose the game just before the final whistle on a counter-attack (1-0).

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 09:41 PM
Setubal have been poor since their Leiria victory end of September. They seem unable to replicate the excellent games of their start of the season. Tito Forbs must work hard to improve things, he may be able to experiment during the 4th round of the Cup away against semi-pros Castrense.

Two players in particular are struggling, two players which were supposed to be pillars of Os Guerreiros this season.

1/ Captain Hélio has just been targeted by the press for his poor performances, but Tito came lashing out to defend his 32 yr-old skipper. Yet he is forced to recognize that the legendary Setubal player is seriously under-performing. Could it be because he is forced to play as DMC, while he is naturally more an MC? Tito has very little alternatives here, changing the skipper at such a time in the season could be catastrophic.

2/ Fernando Nélson. He has the highest wage and has been called up in October as a starter for the Portuguese Seleção. Yet in 9 games for Vitoria he has produced zero goal, zero assist and has averaged 6.44. The lowest rating of the starting XI, just behind... Hélio (6.57) and Carlos (6.56).

Beyond this, Rashidi Yekini (now 38 yr-old) has failed to reproduce the superb form of the initial 3 games (3 victories). Rui Miguel and Albert Meyong may become starters as SC.

The winter mercato will open in a month and Forbs has £2M to spend. There are now many more players interested to join, mainly because they're bench material at their current clubs. Priority will be a strong defender...

ClayDatsusara
12-05-14, 10:26 PM
One match? :tsk:

I was being a bit sarcastic here, Porto's youth seems very neglected and the first team is pretty much out of their reach.




Benfica & Porto owe a duty to Portuguese football, one they are doing nothing to uphold. It has a domino effect...

But here you are being tremendously unfair to Benfica. It is true that Sporting has gambled a lot on academy players, but only because of their financial mess. Just compare the previous seasons squads and you'll notice how the money and the starting 11 spots were being spent on Bojinovs, Onyewus, Pjanics and other expensive foreigner useless players of the kind.

Now, Benfica has a superb squad in terms of quality and depth, the majority of the first squad being foreigner, that's certain, but there are young portuguese players of a certain recognizable quality being thrown into the first team even in important matches. And it's not an obligation due to lack of funds to purchase established players, but a strong bet on formation, that has shown the fruits: Andre Gomes, Andre Almeida, Ivan Cavaleiro constantly in the first squad, João Cancelo and Bernardo Silva almost there (they played against Porto last weekend), the B team had by far the best goal scoring record in the Second League, The u19 team lost to Barcelona in the Youth CL final and lost the portuguese championship to Braga by 1 point in the last game, All other national youth championships, U17 and U15, were won by Benfica, and finally, if you look at the latest U17 and U21 National Team call-ups, Benfica is the most represented club, and strangely it isnt in the u19, even if we have one of the best squads in europe.

The future is bright for us. Sporting has been keeping their usual quality at formation level. Porto is helpless atm but can improve largely in the next years. Smaller teams like Guimaraes, Setubal, Braga, Rio Ave or Maritimo are pushing youngsters into their squads constantly, mostly because they cant afford big names anymore.

The next generations of portuguese players will surely be on par. Keep an eye on the u17 Euros being held at the moment ;)

:typing: And sorry RuiEsteves for this long rant :typing:

:focus:

Great Story, I am not usually a follower of these, but couldnt help getting addicted to this one ;)

ClayDatsusara
12-05-14, 10:36 PM
how many times have Setubal won at FC Porto in the Liga, in their History?

4 in 66 visits...




Can you tell me (and other Portuguese posters) what kind of player Fernando Nélson was? and how he did at Vitoria? and in the Seleção? cheers

I dont really recall Nelson's time at Setubal, maybe Luis can have a better insight on that, but I think that his career was going down pretty fast by then. He was fairly discrete wherever he played, but the highlight of his career was probably the Euro96, which secured him a big transfer from Sporting to Aston Villa, but he was no star.

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 11:06 PM
A mixed team of Guerreiros visited Tomar for the 4th round of the Taça do Portugal, playing semi-pro side of Castrense Futebol Clube. They were push-overs (4-1). Forbs made it a point to field Hélio as captain, so as to boost his confidence. Young rising star Cristiano Ronaldo scored his first ever professional goal after 17' and looked dangerous everytime he touched the ball - although it was Rui Miguel who scored a double.

November 17th, 2001

Tito Forbs said it before the game: he considered Sporting CP to have the best squad this season in la Liga Sagres. Beto, Junior Baiano, Rui Jorge, Pedro Barbosa, Niculae, Jardel... and amazingly, national stars João, Sa Pinto and Paulo Bento were not even on the match roster!! The first half was just great football, the Lisboa side scoring first (7') thanks to a very active Diogo in the midfield. But Marco Ferreira was in a great day and he beautifully set-up Rui Miguel for an immediate equalize (8'). Both sides had their chances until half-time, Marius Niculae looking particularly dangerous.


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The second half was different as Sporting gradually took control of the game; Forbs admitted that his opponents had been overall superior, but keeper Pedro Espinha (MoM) saved the day for Vitoria and produced his best performance of the season so far. After a difficult start, the 36 yr-old international veteran had been showing his true class lately.

A few days later, Rashidi Yekini twists an ankle during a training session. He's out for 2 months. This could be the killer blow for the big man.

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 11:08 PM
:typing: And sorry RuiEsteves for this long rant :typing:

oh not a problem at all, if this thread is an opportunity to divert on Portuguese football, past & present, then all the better !

RuiEsteves
12-05-14, 11:59 PM
November 26th, 2001

Boavista FC pulled the surprise of the century in becoming the 5th club only (after Os Tres Grandes and Belenenses) to be crowned Portuguese champion in 2000/01. Now it was time for Os Guerreiros to pay a visit to do Bessa.

The game was tight and balanced from the go, with a much more focused Vitoria battling for possession with their hosts.
So far this season he had not quite delivered up to his promises, although Tito Forbs had to acknowledge his talent and hard work. But today, Marajo did really shine. He scored 2 brilliant headers in the back of the net of Ricardo, and was a constant threat to the chequered shirts. His perfomance was so stellar that he was granted with a 10 rating.


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Boavista equalized, but the great Luis Andrade, impeccable once again in midfield, scored on a corner kick and offered a much needed victory to Setubal. They beat the champions, on their home turf, and were back on better track with that second shock victory on the road after the opener at the Dragão.

Kingsley
13-05-14, 08:16 AM
Putting a decent run of results together after the slight dip in form. Good to see you have a bit of money to spend when the window opens, but also that you have given players a chance to show where the gaps in the squad are.


Which 20 yr-old forward do you mean? the one I have in mind is only 16 :-)

It was Ronaldo, and he is 16. No idea where I go the 20 year old from !

RuiEsteves
13-05-14, 09:03 PM
** December 2nd, 2001 – Vitoria Setubal v Belenenses : 2-0

Tito Forbs can feel it, his Vitoria is back on track since the hard-fought draw vs Sporting CP and the brilliant (3-2) victory at Boavista. The coach has publicly sided with his skipper, and Hélio shows gratitude with much improved performances on the pitch – he is awarded MoM against the “other” Lisboa club, rivals Belenenses. Os Guerreiros dominate the game, allowing no shot on target to the visitors. Marajo finds the net from a 20m free-kick (14’), and Marco Ferreira’s header seals victory (74’). A composed win ahead of the big game.

** December 7th, 2001

It is time for the big trip of the season to the home of legendary Benfica, co-leaders of the table 3pts clear of Vitoria Setubal. During the week Forbs takes a harsh decision : he transfer-lists international defender Fernando Nélson who has disappointed him, and starts Nélson Veiga as DR based on the efforts he has displayed at training. A shock decision, but a fair one believes Tito.

Lisboa do have an impressive line-up with the likes of Argel, Petit, Drulovic, Zahovic, Simão Sabrosa, Nuno Gomes and the rising star, Angolan Mantorras. They are however vulnerable defensively. The almost 40k crowd in la Luz will see a brilliant game of football, each team creating roughly an equal amount of chances for themselves (10 shots for 8 on target to Benfica, 10 shots for 9 on target to Vitoria). Pedro Espinha will once again deliver a stellar performance, saving all 8 shots (!) ; while Marajo with a perfect half-volley, and Rui Miguel with a superb header from a corner, find the net twice during the first half – each time served by playmaker Marco Ferreira.


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It is the perfect scenario for a victorious Setubal side (2-0); they have managed to step-up their level on par with that of Benfica on their home turf. After FC Porto (4-2) and Boavista (3-2), this is the third spectacular away victory for Tito Forbs, an achievement which leaves the Portuguese football world impressed.

RuiEsteves
13-05-14, 09:21 PM
** December 17th, 2001 – Vitoria Setubal v Paços de Ferreira : 2-2

It is one of those tough days in the office… utterly dominant thanks to their on-fire AMC’s Marajo (2 goals) and Marco Ferreira, Os Guerreiros end-up drawing points with opportunistic Paços de Ferreira, whose keeper Pedro will make no less than… 10 saves !!

With 15 games played so far, the Primeira Liga goes on a 2-weeks Christmas break. Vitoria Setubal are standing 5th in a very tight competition, 3 pts behind surprise co-leaders Santa Clara. They have the 2nd best defense (18 con) of the Liga and have always been firmly in the top-tier; there are many issues frustrating perfectionist Tito Forbs, but so far Os Guerreiros are doing rather well and probably have a margin of improvement towards the second half of the season.


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(note: can anyone explain the ranking system in this championship between teams who are drawn on points? It clearly is not goal difference, then what is it? I can see no pattern here…)

RuiEsteves
13-05-14, 09:30 PM
The transfer mercato has re-opened on December 15th and Tito Forbs knows he must be active, with a top priority : improve his defensive line-up. In the meantime the following players are transferred-out / they did not get any game time this season :

- International Angolan MC Chipenda (33), for £130k to lower division side Camacha ;
- Brazilian forward Jean Paulista (24), for £600k to Segunda Divisão side Farense ;

which now means a ~£3M maximum budget for Tito to spend.

Neither Brazilian Hugo Alcântara nor Hugo Costa have been convincing as DC’s so far. They’re reasonably decent, but Forbs wants a step-above. He has had an eye for a long time on Portuguese U21 international Tonel, but to release him FC Porto demand a high transfer fee of £1.7M – a club record for Vitoria. Tonel should now be part of Os Guerreiros starting XI.


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Then Tito cannot resist to bring home an ex-player of the club, yet another striker – mainly because the deal is so sweet. It takes only £45k to have Guinean international Nando (28) return to Setubal. He’s a powerful and fast front-forward.


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Finally Portuguese international Fernando Nélson leaves the club, going at 30 yr-old to Benfica for a mere 650k. Forbs counted on him as a master piece of the defense, but he has very consistently disappointed, failing to make much of a difference. Nélson Veiga (23) who has much improved lately, will replace him in the starting XI.

- Fernando Nélson -> 11 games / 0 goal / 0 assist / rating = 6.64

RuiEsteves
13-05-14, 09:38 PM
** December 30th, 2001 – Varzim v Vitoria Setubal : 2-1

It is a poor end of the year for Vitoria who play a good game in Varzim, creating numerous chances including a crossbar, but end up defeated for the first time in 2 months following a deadly counter-attack in the dying seconds of the game. Nando who was a starter, scored the only goal for the Guerreiros following a superb solo run. Marajo and Luis Andrade, injured, did not play.

Needing more depth in the midfield also, Tito goes into his pockets and recruits another Guinean, young Portuguese international Ednilson – for a whoppy £1.3 M to Benfica. It is once again a very high price to pay, but the potential of this young player is phenomenal.


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On January 1st Rashidi Yekini gathers his teammates and the coaching staff, and announces his decision to retire from professional football at the end of the season. He however makes the oath to do all he can, if given the opportunity, to help Vitoria have the best 2nd half of the year as possible. Tears run down everyone eyes…

kuy
13-05-14, 09:40 PM
Tonel looks good, surprised you didn't try to get more than £650k for Nelson though - to one of your major rivals too! Hope you can hang on in the second half of the season :ok:

RuiEsteves
13-05-14, 10:01 PM
Tonel looks good, surprised you didn't try to get more than £650k for Nelson though - to one of your major rivals too! Hope you can hang on in the second half of the season :ok:
I tried. His transfer tag was £550k, Benfica, FC Porto, Boavista and Maritimo put in bids and I asked for a £1M. They withdrew. Next bids, I asked £800K. Only Porto and Benfica offered £650k, he chose not to go back to his previous club. To be frank I don't mind Benfica getting him (he's been a starter for them so far), I don't think he will give the extra humpf they really need in defense.

I am more angry at myself for missing out on Bosingwa; I stupidly tried to negotiate with him his wage (which was high, but still affordable) and now he is not interested anymore. Maybe I should have gone straight for him instead of Ednilson... also it took me 4 months to realize that Pepe was in the game (as a Brazilian only, at Maritimo) and by now he won't join it seems. He's 18 and already damn good.

ClayDatsusara
13-05-14, 10:05 PM
(note: can anyone explain the ranking system in this championship between teams who are drawn on points? It clearly is not goal difference, then what is it? I can see no pattern here…)

I think it emulates real life, where head to head matches are the first method of tiebreak. If there are more than two teams with the same points, the matches between all those teams are taken in account and the points gained are calculated.

RuiEsteves
13-05-14, 10:11 PM
I think it emulates real life, where head to head matches are the first method of tiebreak. If there are more than two teams with the same points, the matches between all those teams are taken in account and the points gained are calculated.
I never knew this is how it worked in Portugal. Thanks!

RuiEsteves
13-05-14, 10:16 PM
On a side note this guy has been phenomenal for me this half-season, by far the best player. I recruited him from Benfica B for... £210k. He is my central (the most defensive) DMC and you cannot imagine the number of situations he saves and the amount of posession he steals.


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He is the best tackler of the Liga, and overal 6th in rating. 5 yellow cards, but no red so far ;-)

RuiEsteves
13-05-14, 10:52 PM
** January 6th, 2002 – Round 5 of Taça do Portugal – Farense (D2) v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1

Os Guerreiros struggle in the 5th round of the Cup at São Luis, against a solid Farense side. It takes a lucky goal by Nando (2 goals in 2 games) to see them through. Offensively it is clear that Setubal is not the same without Marajo, still out injured.

Finally : just one week before the closure of the mercato, Brazilian winger Jorginho (24), transfer-listed since Forbs took over, finds a home with Internacional for a club record transfer fee of £1.2 M.

** January 13th, 2002 - Vitoria Setubal v Académica : 1-0

Once again a solid game at Bonfim, Coimbra looking only dangerous in the first 30' with a shot on the post. Nevertheless Vitoria struggled to score, and only a late header by Sandro (82') sealed a much needed victory against a direct rival.

RuiEsteves
13-05-14, 11:58 PM
** January 20th, 2002 - Vitoria Setubal v Vitoria Guimarães : 1-2

Rivals Guimarães did not come to Bonfim to defend. Marajo finds the net from a free-kick early on (4'), but the visitors' central defense of Cléber and Marco will deliver a great game which will set the platform for Guimarães to score twice. Once again, Setubal is not able to have a good consecutive run of solid results and falls again. To make things worse, Marajo picks-up an injury and will again, be out for a month.

** January 23rd, 2002 - Round 6 of Taça do Portugal

3 days after their 2nd home defeat in Primeira Liga, and while being 2 goals down against Braga after two terrible errors by Pedro Espinha, Os Guerreiros show their true spirit and sound the rebellion. They will completely overpower their opponents thanks in particular to the stellar performances of Sandro (1g, 1a), Cristiano Ronaldo (1g, 1a) and Rui Miguel (2g). The young Ronaldo is full of sheer class, he has delivered an amazing shot from 30m on the crossbar and has always looked dangerous and inspired, in the absence of Marajo.


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Vitoria powers through to the Cup quarter-finals !

Kingsley
14-05-14, 09:53 AM
Going great guns in the cup. Maybe it has your name on it ! Need to sort out the league form with a few points dropped at fortaleza Bonfim.

Tonel and Ednilson look like great signings. both are young and so can only improve. I wasn't convinced by Nando (finishing 8 for a striker) but he does seem to be getting the goals.

Have you asked for a physio report on Marajo. That is his second bad injury and you may have a problem there.

RuiEsteves
14-05-14, 08:42 PM
Tonel and Ednilson look like great signings. both are young and so can only improve. I wasn't convinced by Nando (finishing 8 for a striker) but he does seem to be getting the goals.

I have not paid enough attention to the Finishing attribute so far - I look mainly at Off the Ball, Jumping, Pace and Strength for a striker. I will update later tonight but as you will find out Rui Miguel has hit perfect form, Nando does not stand a chance although he's been valuable when given a chance.



Have you asked for a physio report on Marajo. That is his second bad injury and you may have a problem there.

I have never used those reports! there's a physio and a training one, right? thanks for the tip, I'll ask for a physio report on Marajo.

RuiEsteves
14-05-14, 08:53 PM
** January 25th, 2002

It’s been a crazy Friday evening on the island of Madeira, both keepers and defenses being particularly uninspired. Again the fighting spirit which Forbs has instilled into his team has delivered – down (2-3) in the 2nd half, Os Guerreiros kept their heads up and managed to snatch victory with a header from Tonel on the very last minute.


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Albert Meyong (Cameroon) and Artur Correia (Angola) have been called up in their respective squads for the African Cup of Nations and will be away for the month of February.

** February 2nd, 2002

With a very confident squad at the moment, Tito Forbs awaits FC Porto at Bonfim and prepares a technical masterpiece. Vitoria’s 4 defenders and 3 DMC’s will completely shut down the offensive ambitions of the vice-champions, allowing them solely 2 shots (1 on target). Deco and Alenitchev in particular, are helpless. The new starting XI DR, Nélson Veiga, is impressive (MoM) and he delivers a perfect cross at 20’ for an isolated Rui Miguel who scores the only goal of the game (1-0).


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For the first time of the season, after the game, Tito Forbs gathers his players and they all share dinner. He tells them how pleased he is with the impeccable team spirit, how well they have adopted, and adapted to, the defensive gameplan; and how proud he is to lead such a hard-working and dedicated squad. Currently sitting 4th in the table, and a few days from its home quarter-final in the Taça, the coach argues that the club is ideally positioned for a great season ending. He request that everyone remains focused.

RuiEsteves
14-05-14, 09:02 PM
After dinner Tito walked back into his Bonfim office, like every evening. What he found on the fax machine startled him : an official offer from Académica Coimbra to recruit striker Rui Miguel for an astonishing £3.5M. The highest transfer compensation ever proposed to the club. The amount was huge. The board would have to be made aware, and inevitably the players would know.

Once it became clear to Forbs that Rashidi Yekini did not have more than a few games under his belt, the coach hesitated a lot on who should be his Center Striker. He started in that position:

- Yekini - 7 starts (2g)
- Meyong - 2 starts (1g)
- Nando - 3 starts (2g)
- Rui Miguel - 11 starts (8g)

The latter had very clearly earned his spot in the recent games, scoring consistently and creating more chances than his competitors. Tito had recently renewed his contract and almost doubled his wage to £1,700/w. The board meets with Tito the next day, who elaborates on the striker position at the club as being one where he has a lot of options available for next season (Meyong, Nando, young Tiago Mota, but also Cristiano Ronaldo and Marajo…).

Following which the board decides to open up negotiations with Académica. Quickly, a deal is sealed, for £4M Setubal’s main striker Rui Miguel will depart to Coimbra on June 1st 2002. That’s the rule of the modern game and Tito knew it from the start; he just hopes that his forward will remain focused until the very end of the season…

RuiEsteves
14-05-14, 09:13 PM
** February 6th, 2002 – Taça do Portugal, Quarter-finals

What a match ! the draw was favourable with a home game v Moreirense (current ranking last of the Primeira Liga) but the scenario which unfold in front of a nice 12k crowd at Bonfim has been fantastic.
[does anyone know why the game considers Moreirense as the most expected game to be played at Bonfim? I got 15k crowd when we played them in the Liga, while I have not gone over the 12k limit v Benfica, Sporting… any historical reasons, or just an inconsistency of cm0102??].

Vitoria start hostilities (4’) with one of the landmark long-range shots by Cristiano Ronaldo… smashing on the crossbar (the ball, not Ronaldo). Os Guerreiros push hard and dominate the game from start to end… but as it is often the case in such situation, Moreirense use one of their rare opportunities to score on the 80’ after a very nice move on the wing (0-1). Bonfim is silenced at first, but cheers loudly behind its Guerreiros as they rush for the goal. Setubal gets a last corner-kick, and Rui Miguel jumps higher than everyone and equalizes just before the bell. (1-1), extra time!


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Within 10’ the game is sealed as the Guerreiros seem unstoppable, with another corner-kick header by Sandro and a superb volley from Nando (3-1). Moreirense play the game till the end and fight hard, scoring one more (3-2), but a solo run by Nando who displays his outstanding dribbling skills and the job is done (4-2).

6 goals in total and much a deserved victory for a superior Setubal side, who reaches the Cup semi-finals for the 17th time of its long History! The game will be played on April 10th.

RuiEsteves
14-05-14, 09:31 PM
** February 8th, 2002 – Vitoria Setubal v Leiria : 2-0

The Federação have again planned it well with a Liga game just 2 days after the Taça quarter-finals… it is a tired bunch of Guerreiros who take to the field and dominate the first half, scoring twice by Ednilson, and Hugo with a header from a corner-kick. Fatigue kicks-in the 2nd half and Leiria dominates but the rear-guard holds on with a very good Pedro Espinha. Setubal finally manages to keep their form and snatch a 5th consecutive victory. Good job.

** February 17th, 2002 – Moreirense v Vitoria Setubal : 2-3

The same 11 players who just beat them in the Taça quarter-finals travel to Moreirense. The first 20’ are crazy with 4 goals, Rui Miguel heading twice the ball in the net to level the score at (2-2). The locals are playing for survival in Primeira Liga, but Setubal is superior and will dominate the remainder of the game with a splendid Marco Ferreira as the playmaker, who delivers a gem to Sandro for the winning goal (52’). For the 4th time out of the last 6 games, Os Guerreiros were behind on the scoreboard and yet managed to win the match; this is beginning to be a landmark of Tito Forbs’ players this season.

** February 24th, 2002 – Gil Vicente v Vitoria Setubal : 1-4

Vitoria secures its 7th consecutive win with a comprehensive victory in Gil Vicente, dominated heads and shoulders by Forbs’ boys. With the return of Marajo, the coach has been able to field his starting XI :


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Striker Rui Miguel is litterally on fire with another double, now seating with 13g for 14 starts!! Tonel (MoM) has adapted very well and has been much superior to Hugo Costa as DC. The return of Marajo after 4 long weeks of absence does not hurt neither. Tito feels the team has reached fully maturity and is playing its best football of the season right now. There are no injuries, and only Meyong is missing (playing the semi-finals of the African Cup of Nations for Cameroon). Vitoria is now 2nd of the Primeira Liga, 3pts behind surprise outfit Santa Clara. Os Tres Grandes are just behind, building up momentum. Some journalists speculating now...


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Kingsley
15-05-14, 08:04 AM
I have never used those reports! there's a physio and a training one, right? thanks for the tip, I'll ask for a physio report on Marajo.

I always get the physio and coach reports for every player when I join a club or when I complete the signing of a player. Much of it can be ignored, but sometimes it will tell you about potential injuries, possible discipline problems or if they are great at corners or penalties. Certainly worth doing.

There is a Scottish pundit here also tipping Setubal as outsiders, he has a feeling that there might even be a domestic double oportunity :)

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 07:30 PM
I always get the physio and coach reports for every player when I join a club or when I complete the signing of a player. Much of it can be ignored, but sometimes it will tell you about potential injuries, possible discipline problems or if they are great at corners or penalties. Certainly worth doing.

Thanks, I'll do it more often. Oh and my physio says Marajo should suffer very few injuries in his career ;-)



There is a Scottish pundit here also tipping Setubal as outsiders, he has a feeling that there might even be a domestic double oportunity :)

I will update more now. I am having a lot of fun with this story and this squad. It is a real challenge, and I have the feeling that the lads are really doing what Forbs expects them to, and my game plan works more or less as I had imagined. Deep down I never really thought we could really challenge for the title. We are good but we may have slightly over-achieved so far.

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 07:37 PM
** March 2nd, 2002 – Braga v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2

Sporting Clube de Braga are having a woeful season, seating just above relegation zone. It is no surprise that they push hard from the start and score an early goal by Barroso (6’), creating mulitple other chances. But they are facing Os Guerreiros who are not prepared to end their formidable run of success. Right after being denied a goal for a very narrow offside position, the great Rui Miguel runs into space and pounds an equalizing volley (38’). A draw would have probably been a fair result to both teams, but Vitoria has this little something this season, the grinta which makes them so hard to overcome. On the 73’, Marajo receives a perfect pass from Sandro and his half-volley leaves no chance to keeper Quim. Setubal wins again !

** March 8th, 2002

If you had told someone at the start of the season that the early March Setubal – Santa Clara fixture would be a game between the 2nd and 1st of the Primeira Liga, then that someone would have taken you to asylum. Yet, it was very real.

Playing at Bonfim is tough these days. The Ponta Delgada side is an attacking formation relying on its wingers (ex Setubal player Bruno Ribeiro, and Vitor Vieira), but they will be contained by the hosts getting only a single shot at goal for the whole game! Os Guerreiros manage to score early on by a long-range attempt from on-form defender Nélson Veiga (14’), and will secure another by a Marajo header in 2nd half (50’). Santa Clara lose their temper and defender Aldo is red-carded at the hour for a head-butt. The last 30’ are completely one-sided but Vitoria won’t manage to score another one.


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Setubal are such a rock-solid side that even Tito Forbs is amazed at what he has created. They have also avoided injutries for a couple of months now, which makes a big difference. This easy victory allows them to top the table on par with Santa Clara, 3pts clear of Sporting CP (still considered as hot favourites by Tito) and FC Porto, with Benfica being now 6pts behind the leaders. Next up is… a visit to the Alvalade !! probably the toughest game of the whole season.

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 07:40 PM
Focus on Nélson Veiga who has been a very pleasant surprise for Tito Forbs this season. He started as a sub to Fernando Nélson, but it soon became clear that he was performing better than the Portuguese international who was forced-out and went to Benfica in December (where he is often benched).


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He has all the strong attributes of a great Guerreiro (Bravery, Determination, Jumping, Stamina, Strength, Teamwork) and has also been a great performer in key games (MoM v FC Porto, 1st goal v Santa Clara).

[Note: in real life he is Cabo-Verdian / Portuguese…]

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 07:45 PM
** March 18th, 2002

Sporting Club Portugal are the only side this season which have completely dominated Os Guerreiros, during the 2nd half of the 1st leg game at Bonfim (1-1). They have so much talent that they let go in December star internationals Sa Pinto (back to Real Sociedad) and João Pinto (to Parma). The morning of the game, Forbs watches on TV the draw of the Taça do Portugal semi-finals : his Vitoria will play at the Alvalade on April 10th, the worst possible fixture !

Vitoria gets into the game with a full squad and an incredible series of 9 consecutive wins under the belt. It is a pulsating 1st half with great football being played. The Setubal midfield holds itself and on the 8’ the crowd is shocked as Rui Miguel, again, scores his 15th goal of the season being slightly faster than keeper Tiago on a long through ball. But the hosts answer back; their central defense of internationals Junior Baiano and Beto impress Tito Forbs, and the latter pounds a great header on a corner-kick at 20’ (1-1). Right next, Rui Miguel manages once again to evade the defense but his powerful shot shatters the crossbar. Both teams battle hard until half-time, striker Mario Jardel being a constant threat with several shots saved by a busy Pedro Espinha.

But the 2nd half will be a different story as Sporting turn on the gear and show the gap in talent between both sides. Even a tireless Luis Andrade (named MoM) cannot prevent the midfielders to create chance after chance, and it is ex-Setubal playmaker Toñito who finds the net on the 52’. There’s a lucky charm on Forbs’ boys as unpredictable Marajo picks-up a fumble from the keeper and equalizes (60’), but this time opposition is too strong. On corner-kicks danger is everywhere and it is no surprise that Junior Baiano scores minutes later.


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There could have been a couple more goals to Sporting who logically win the game and are now ideally set for the title challenge. There’s no doubt they are the best side of the Primeira Liga, but will they convert? Vitoria will get another chance against them in less than a month in Cup semi-final.

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 07:49 PM
** March 27th, 2002 – Vitoria Setubal v Beira-Mar : 2-0

It is supposedly an easy game at home v Beira-Mar, and Os Guerreiros take the lead in the 1st half with goals from Rui Miguel (22’) and Nélson Veiga (41’), helped by the vision of n°10 Marco Ferreira. But Vitoria loses its usual focus in the 2nd half and gives lots of chances to clumsy Beira-Mar strikers; still, the hosts manage to win following last week’s loss at Lisboa.

** March 31st, 2002 – Nacional v Vitoria Setubal : 2-1

Tito Forbs saw it coming and he feared his players would let off steam right at the worst time of the season. They travel to Madeira against Nacional who has been the worst side of the season lately, ranked 18th. Setubal is nicely set-up in a comfortable 1st half by a generous penalty-kick, converted by Hélio (21’). But the hosts will score 2 lucky goals in the 2nd half against a rather passive Vitoria defense. Os Guerreiros rush towards attack in the final quarter but keeper Belman is in a great day (MoM) and it is a crashing defeat on the road.

On April 1st 2002, there are 5 teams left with a realistic chance for the title.


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Sporting are now hot favourites while Vitoria have a very tough schedule ahead of them this month :

- Benfica (H)
- Sporting (A) – Cup semi-final
- Belenenses (A)
- Boavista (H)

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 07:54 PM
** April 5th, 2002

It’s a big game. Benfica are seating 5th and this trip to Bonfim is a must win if they want to challenge Sporting for the title. On the other hand, Setubal need 3pts today to remain in touch with the leader. Forbs does not fear the Lisboa giant as a unit, but he knows they have class strikers in Nuno Gomes and young Mantorras.

Both squads are injury-free and Setubal press-on from the start and it is clear that Rui Miguel is on fire today, the Portuguese striker has been amazing for the past 3 months. He hits the post at 11’ and it is a miracle for the visitors that no one can pick-up the goal thereafter. Nuno Gomes is rightfully denied a goal for offside, Os Guerreiros push hard, Hélio finds the crossbar on the 32’ and finally a Rui Miguel’s header goes in. (1-0), half-time.

The devastating pace of Angolan Mantorras strikes in the 2nd half, with 2 consecutive goals the latter on a blitz counter-attack from a corner-kick. (1-2) down, Vitoria rushes forward and Rui Miguel sends a furious shot wide of Bossio, it is (2-2). During the last 20’ Os Guerreiros besiege the visiting goals but will have to settle for the draw, despite an overwheliming domination : (17 shots / 11 on target) v (7 shots / 5 on target).


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In the meantime Sporting suffers a shocker loss at Leiria (0-2), so it is still all open at the top !

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 08:14 PM
** April 10th, 2002 – Taça do Portugal, semi-finals

20 days later the same set-up of players clash again at the Alvalade in front of a large crowd of 43k, Setubal looking for a big upset which would have them reach the Cup final for the first time in almost 3 decades! We’re a few games from the end of the Primeira Liga and Tito knows he’s playing a big match tonight after a beautiful Cup run which saw his boys get past Castrense (A, 4-1), Farense (A, 1-0), Braga (H, 4-2) and Moreirense (H, 4-2, E.T.).

Os Guerreiros are slightly more on the defense than last time around and are particularly vigilant on set pieces, trying to prevent the devastating headers of Beto & Junior Baiano. Only this time the threat is elsewhere. Wingers Ricardo and Pedro Barbosa will be a constant threat tonight and will have no trouble taking advantage over their direct counterparts Nélson Veiga and Carlos. Tito seems unable to set up a counter-strategy, and on one of the wingers’ crosses Mario Jardel heads the ball into an empty net on the 23’ before a helpless Pedro Espinha.

Setubal still creates its own chances but Tiago is in a good day. The man-marking of Jardel by Tonel does not work well, the big Brazilian forward is too much to handle and he will score 2 more goals in the last 10’ for a breathtaking hat-trick. Rui Miguel scores an oppotunistic consolation goal but once again, Sporting CP is stronger than Setubal and prevails. Cup final will feature Sporting v Varzim. Forbs is frustrated, having not found the answers to counter the 4-5-1 of his opponents.


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Sadly the Cup run ends at the Alvalade, but the lads have got 5 more games to convert their fantastic season into something consistent.

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 08:21 PM
** April 14th, 2002 – Belenenses v Vitoria Setubal : 3-1

It was always going to be a tough game, Forbs had known it for months, at Restelo vs an in-form Belenenses (ranked 6th) playing in a 4-5-1 formation like SCP and featuring flairish players in attack such as Rui Borges, Neca, Eduardo Marques or Antchouet. Vitoria does not like to play against those single-striker layouts, this time they try to keep a zonal marking. Veteran Pedro Espinha has been in poor form lately and lost confidence, Tito decides to give a chance to Marco Tabuas.

It’s rough weather for Setubal at the start of the game and Guerreiros’ defense is shaken. Marco Tabuas makes a superb save and Rui Miguel, for the 20th time this season, scores a lucky goal at 41’. But Belenenses immediately strike back and settle the score. In the 2nd half coach Forbs has to bear the painful sight of his defense going blast; from Marco Tabuas who unbelievably fumbles the ball on the 75’ gifting a goal to the opposition [note to Luis Russo, ClayDatsusara and Zé : it is exactly as you said, Marco Tabuas was both in the same game, spectacularly good and spectacularly bad, from one half to the other!], to Nélson Veiga and Carlos once again unable to contain the runs of the wingers in their backs, to more worryingly, Tonel and Hugo who appear to be lost on the pitch. It is a heavy defeat (1-3), the 4th over the last 6 games.

Forbs somehow needs to re-mobilize energies around the players still going strong : the 3 DMC’s (Hélio, Andrade and Sandro), and of course Rui Miguel. In the meantime Vitoria moves back in the table with only 4 games left, while Belenenses is scrambling for a European spot with the best attack of the Liga (72g).


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- “Boys, you know how proud I am of what you’ve done for me this season.”, goes Forbs in the changing room inside the Restelo well after the end of the game.
- “You were a Segunda Liga side a few months back, and look were you are now : 4th of Primeira Liga and a semi-final in the Taça. That’s outstanding. But it ain’t over yet, we have 4 games and the next one is critical if you want to be remembered. The last time this club ranked better than 5th was… in the legendary 1973-74 season when they finished 3rd not far behind the champions.”
- “We need to focus. Yes Boavista are the reigning champions but we’ve done them at do Bessa, and we WILL do them in Bonfim next week. You’re still the Guerreiros, you’ve still got it in you. You can do it.”

… and he walked out the room, leaving it to skipper Hélio to get whatever was still left out of this group.

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 08:27 PM
** April 20th, 2002

Os Guerreiros looked as if paralyzed on the pitch. They had a lame 1st half apart from a disallowed goal by Rui Miguel after 1’ for a foul on keeper Ricardo, as if concerned about the obvious attacking power of Boavista (their trio Elpidio Silva, Erwin Sanchez and Antonio Semedo was indeed intimidating). 1 shot off target in the entire half was all Vitoria could muster! Tito Forbs blasted in the changing room at half-time, fuming, and told them to bring back the fighting spirit and go out there for victory. The 2nd half was much better, they won most of the contests and dominated – and ...were saved by the crossbar on a terrible counter-attack by Elpidio Silva. The title holders were solid and played very defensively, we were in extra time and the draw looked certain, when suddenly cracking a shot near the post…


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...was of course the amazing Rui Miguel (MoM). They had done it, they had found within themselves the will to prevail. Later thay day FC Porto suffered a crashing home defeat (2-3) v Varzim, with their captain Jorge Costa red-carded early on. The table now looked like this with only 3 games remaining :


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Sporting’s convincing win in the Açores (3-2) almost landed them the title – they had 3 easy games 2 of which at home. Vitoria had 2 away games left but was certainly back in business, anything could happen from 2nd to 5th spot!

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 08:31 PM
Having just played for the 1st time, along with Marco Ferreira, for Portugal B (1-0 away v England B), focus on the incredible goal machine Rui Miguel who is sadly set for a transfer out to Académica on June 1st (against £4M). The announcement for the World Cup squad would be made soon : could he make it?


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Tito Forbs was unsure of how he would fare this season and actually used him much as a sub (8 times) in the first few months, until he started his amazing spell, landing :

-> 23 starts (+8 sub) = 21 goals / 2 assist / 6 MoM / rating 7.68.

A very complete player in his attributes, he has performed beyond all expectations, being incredibly good at creating and converting chances, especially from headers.

RuiEsteves
15-05-14, 11:19 PM
** April 28th, 2002 – Paços de Ferreira v Vitoria Setubal : 3-2

It is yet another defeat on the road (the 5th in a row for Vitoria), but this one hurts. Paços is no Belenenses, they are battling not to be relegated and Os Guerreiros start the game strongly and score by Rui Miguel (12’). Jurandir for the hosts nails a header home right after (14’), but Setubal dominates with a superb Marco Ferreira who creates and converts an opportunity all by himself on 37’ (2-1). The situation looks under control, but Forbs’ defense implodes once again juste like at the Restelo. Pedro Espinha trips Leonardo in the box and it’s a penalty kick (2-2, 52’); at 66’ the whole ligne of defensers is beaten, with both Tonel and Hugo being humiliated for the 3rd goal of the night by Paços who win a game they should never have.

Tito knew from the start that the weak link was his backline, they had held waters for a while but now they’re really struggling and at the worst moment.

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2 games before the end, SPORTING CLUBE de PORTUGAL are crowned CHAMPIONS of PORTUGAL for the 2nd time in 3 years, and the 18th time in their History. They were the best team in the Liga this season without a doubt, and have overpowered their competitors in the spring. They have in particular broken the backs of Vitoria Setubal beating them back to back at a critical time in Primeira Liga, and then a few weeks later in the Taça semis. Sporting is now set for a double if they beat Varzim in the final.
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** March 27th, 2002 – Vitoria Setubal v Varzim : 0-3

Tito Forbs holds his head between his hands, alone at the top of the stands in Bonfim later that night. What has happened to his Guerreiros? Why this sudden change in form and the fear that seems to have struck their ranks for the past several weeks now? They were not bad in gameplay against Varzim who have a good keeper and whose defense were particularly inspired; but 3 goals conceded in Bonfim? a clueless Pedro Espinha who had been so consistently strong for the entire season (until recently)? Nélson Veiga losing his determination? Tonel and Hugo, who used to be so composed, now completely lost on the pitch? Varzim is the form-side of the 2nd half of the season with Belenenses, they’ve reached the final of the Taça and they have just inflicted to Vitoria Setubal their worst defeat of the season, the 3rd one at home.

Setubal have just blown it for themselves. They slip back to 5th position with only one game running – a visit to Coimbra.

There's not much Tito Forbs can do for the final game. The issue is the defense and there's no depth in that area of the squad - Rui André, Ricardo Costa and Hugo Costa would not do any better; trying Marco Tabuas as was done in Belenenses is a huge liability, and young Pinheiro is far from being ready yet. Tito is in a dead end.

Kingsley
16-05-14, 08:38 AM
Great effort, looks like you just ran out of steam at the end. Sporting look to be too strong. There must still be a chance of european qualification, so plenty to play for, and strength in depth needed for next season.

RuiEsteves
20-05-14, 05:52 AM
** May 12th, 2002

After a great season, Os Guerreiros had put themselves into a tight spot following the latest string of poor results, now needing a result away at Académica for the final game. Currently ranked 5th, Vitoria could fall into 6th behind Belenenses but also had a chance, should they win, to move upwards in the table with a bit of luck in the other results. Tito had to change something to the team, the rearguard had lost confidence with those last 2 shocks defeats and 6 goals conceded. Marco Tabuas would start in the goals, as well as Hugo Costa replacing Hugo as DC.

The game was tight from the go, and suddenly took off towards the end of the 1st half. Rui Miguel, who else, first picked a lucky goal on the 41', immediately followed by a double from Brazilian veteran Marcelo when at the receiving end of good crossings he was quicker than Marco Tabuas and Hugo Costa (!!) on both goals. (1-2) at half-time, things were again looking bad for Setubal. They pushed in the 2nd half and were rewarded with 2 goals in broken play around the hour, from Rui Miguel and Marco Ferreira.


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It was a rather fortunate victory, but one nevertheless. Forbs was relieved, the end of season had been exhausting and his team had almost no gas left in the tank.

RuiEsteves
20-05-14, 06:19 AM
While both Benfica and Belenenses won at home, there were 2 unexpected results in the final day : Santa Clara won away to Boavista (2-1) and José Mourinho's FC Porto lost at Maritimo (0-2). So the final table was :


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Vitoria Setubal finished 4th of the Primeira Liga, its best position since... 1973-74 (3rd) !! for a side which had just promoted the previous year, this was a totally unexpected result. Tito Forbs had in a way made History since it was only the 7th time in the History of the club, that it ranked in the top4.

European qualification spots was still unclear since it would depend on next season's UEFA coefficient for Portugal. The major surprise was Açores outfit Santa Clara landing an incredible 2nd position after a wonderful season which had them top the table for a couple of months.

While most cheered around him and in the city of Setubal, Tito Forbs the perfectionist was perplex. His team had shown glaring weaknesses towards the end and he would have to change that. And although Sporting CP was by a good margin the best side in the country, Tito knew for having played them twice that neither Santa Clara nor Benfica were better sides than his Vitoria... with more grip and composure in the closing weeks, Setubal could have well been vice-champions.

Kingsley
20-05-14, 09:29 AM
Time to do some summer shopping. Although you have been looking at the defence, you do have the second best (behind Sporting) in the league. Actually it is the attack which let you down with the second lowest goals scored in the top 10 and 20 goals worse off than Sporting. Interesting to see who comes in, especiallly with the prospect of some European travel next term.

RuiEsteves
20-05-14, 08:00 PM
Hi Eejit,

Yes and no. Yes, I have not scored enough goals to really be competitive at the top level and must improve. In particular my line of 3 DMC's have scored only 12 goals altogether the whole season, which is too few. But on the other hand remember I play a very defensive layout; 47 conceded is way too much, without the final defensive implosion (11 conceded in the last 5 Liga games) I would have probably managed to be vice-champion. So I need to concede much less, target is to reach south of 30.

As for Europe I really don't know if I'm in. At the start of the season there were only 4 Portuguese sides playing Europe (and no intertoto for Portugal!):
- Boavista (champions) in Champions Cup Groups
- FC Porto (2nd) in Champions Cup Qualifyers
- Sporting (3rd) in UEFA Cup
- Maritimo (11th and Cup finalists) in UEFA Cup Qualifyers

So if it stays the same next season, there's no Europe for me.

Vitoria's reputation is actually very low, I have only 50 players interested in joining (out of >300 short-listed / I am restricted to Portuguese, Brazilians and Africans, and almost all the players interested so far are Portuguese). So unless I play Europe which would then increase the club's reputation (I think), I won't have that many options. I should however be able to score a few interestings signings!

First I will do a quick current squad review.

20-05-14, 08:23 PM
Rui, any chance of a screenshot of the home/away league table?

RuiEsteves
20-05-14, 09:06 PM
@Zé, too lazy to cut/paste the images in order to get the ful tables, hope the first 12 ranks are good enough for you -


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All in all a very tight championship, tough to win on the road (I had several very lucky wins away, which explains my 27pts away from Bonfim).

CM3 98/99 was very different, FC Porto was a stellar side (easily in the European top8) and there was a much clearer hierarchy between roughly the 3 tiers of the Primeira Liga.

RuiEsteves
20-05-14, 09:49 PM
This is Forbs' standard Starting XI throughout the season 2001/02, with each player's average rating.


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Luis Andrade best Guerreiro of the year with 7.80; ranked 5th overall and member of the Team of the Year of the Liga.

One stat is striking within the team: both AMC's have exactly the same in-game directives, same positions, everything is symetrical. And yet we have:
- Marco Ferreira - 6 goals / 16 assists (most assists in the Liga)
- Marajo - 14 goals / 6 assists

I am not sure how to explain such discrepancy. Marajo has scored more, usually from rebounds after a shot, or long crossings from direct passes of the midfielders. He does have superior Off the Ball and Flair, but Marco Ferreira has 14 or 15 in almost every attribute including those two. I find it strange how the game has automatically assigned different roles to each... unless this is because I had Marco Ferreira as my "playmaker" in the directives screen! (yes that's probably what it is, so it does have a huge impact on how gameplay when I thought it was more or less cosmetic).

RuiEsteves
21-05-14, 09:10 PM
Goalkeepers

- Pedro Espinha (36) / 36 apps, 1 MoM – sub GK in Liga Team of the Year. The international veteran had overall a very good season, with solid goalkeeping abilities in general and bringing useful experience to the team. He however sunk with the rest of the defense in the last few games, producing several sub-par performances to the point of being benched for the final key game at Coimbra.
- Marco Tabuas (25) / 3 apps. Has talent, but fumbled several times when tested.
- Hugo Pinheiro (21) / untested. Has not improved in training and Forbs’ staff do not rate him well.

Tito Forbs is unsure of what to do for next season. Continue with Pedro Espinha who will soon turn 37 yr-old? Possibly, but the poor showings of the end of season have left a bad mark. Trust Marco Tabuas? He could get more game time but Forbs doubts he can be solid a season-long. Have the young Espinho start in Primeira Liga? He sure has potential but has not yet confirmed it at training, he could be too young for such exposure. All 3 keepers are quality so it would be a waste to recruit anyone. Having them rotate would be a solution, but the coach does not like much the rotation system, in particular for the GK position.

-> No recruitement. Status of each GK to be decided as interseason progresses throughout the summer.

Oh and young keeper Rodrigo (20), unwanted by Forbs, was transferred-out to Naval for £10k on June 1st.

RuiEsteves
21-05-14, 09:14 PM
Defenders – Left

- Carlos (29) / 35 apps, 3 ass. An average player who had a few good games. Exposed in defense against quality wingers, limited offensive contribution.
- Rui André (27) / 1 app, 1 ass. Very little game time, limited abilities for Primeira Liga level.

Forbs has no doubt here : this has been the team’s weakest link this year, and there’s no depth in the squad. Carlos would be a sub next season, provided he agrees.

-> Priority recruitement, for a high-profile starter at DL. Very few candidates already identified so far by scouts.

Defenders – Right

- Nélson Veiga (24) / 30(2) apps, 2 goals, 3 ass, 2 MoM. The good surprise of the season, a revelation. Started as sub and ejected international Fernando Nélson (who ended up leaving to Benfica during mercato). Great attitude, brings a lot offensively; not bullet-proof in defense though against very good wingers.
- Ricardo Costa (21) / 5(6) app. Has improved and can also play D-C, but not to the point where he could claim a starter position yet.
- Alfredo Almeida (18) / was loaned-out to D2 outfit Maia where he enjoyed a decent season. Needs to further improve, still very young.
- Paulo Filipe (23) / unwanted, now transfer-listed.

Nélson Veiga is one of Forbs’ favourite Guerreiro. He is no star but will deliver for the coach. There is some decent level of (young) depth behind.

-> No recruitement planned, unless an outstanding opportunity arises.

RuiEsteves
21-05-14, 09:16 PM
Defenders – Central

- Hugo (23) / 34 apps, 2 goals, 4 ass, 1 MoM. A good season for the young Brazilian, but not outstanding. Does have the capacity to deliver good balls to his midfield, but lacks defensive solidity against the best forwards. Has been exposed in the last games of the season.
- Tonel (22) / 23 app, 2 goals, 2 ass, 1 MoM. The U21 international definitely had an impact when he arrived during mercato; a complete player with a touch of class, is an aerial threat on corner-kicks. He did however struggle against the best forwards – was completely outdone by Mario Jardel when Vitoria faced Sporting in 2 critical games. Can still improve, but will he get that extra rock-solid defensive ability Forbs is looking for?
- Hugo Costa (27) / 17 app, 1 goal. A good average player, struggled somehow in the 1st half of the season, lost his starter position to Tonel. Reasonable back-up option if he accepts such status.
- None of the young recruits at D-C (Ricardo Carmo, Estica, Zé Pedro) have confirmed yet any interesting potential.

This continues to be a problem area for Tito, in spite of the recruitement of Tonel. If he wants to take Vitoria to the next level, the coach knows he needs a more solid and experienced D-C.

-> Priority recruitement, for a high-profile starter at DC.

RuiEsteves
21-05-14, 09:20 PM
Defensive Midfielders

- Luis Andrade (28) / 35 apps, 2 goals, 2 ass, 5 MoM. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year. Best Guerreiro with 7.80 avge rating. One word : outstanding. A gem uncovered by Forbs. Immense in defense, best tackler of the Liga. Nuff’ said.
- Hélio (c) (32) / 36 app, 4 goals, 4 ass, 1 MoM. Good season by the skipper and Setubal legend; had difficult times in Nov/Dec but improved after Forbs gave him his full support. Although an M-C, he adapted well to the DM-C position. He was however rarely outstanding, and at 32 yr-old this is unlikely to improve.
- Sandro (25) / 35(3) app, 6 goals, 4 ass, 1 MoM. Good solid season, has shown great determination in a few key games of the season to rally the troops forward. Although an M-C, he adapted well to the DM-C position. A little like Hélio though, he was not outstanding; could bring even more to Vitoria.
- Paulo Teixeira (21) / 6(5) app, 1 goal. Good when he came on as sub, remains a prospect for the future. Still to be used as back-up next year.
- Ednilson (19) / 5(3) app, 1 goal, 1 MoM. He was an expensive recruit during the mercato, and has confirmed when he came-on his potential at such a young age. Needs to step-up one more level to maybe become a starter; will he do it next season?

As the engine room of Forbs tactical layout, the 3 DMC’s play an essential role in the team. They performed above par but both Hélio and Sandro could be challenged in the starting XI. Will Hélio continue to be the skipper? His influence on the squad and in the club is big, but at 33 yr-old he may struggle more. Decent depth with both Paulo Teixeira and Ednilson, further improved by the signing on June 1st , for £475k from Boavista, of U21 international :


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-> No recruitement planned, unless an outstanding opportunity arises. Forbs to decide during the summer how much rotation there maybe between the 3 starters and their 3 younger subs.

RuiEsteves
21-05-14, 09:23 PM
Attacking Midfielders

- Marajo (21) / 28 apps, 14 goals, 5 ass, 3 MoM. – sub M-C in Liga Team of the Year. The young Brazilian oozes class and is a great flairish finisher more than a playmaker. With his 7.68 avge rating he finished 9th in the entire Liga. Could have been better without a bad string of injuries. Can still improve next season.
- Marco Ferreira (24) / 38 app, 6 goals, 16 ass, 4 MoM. The playmaker, most assists in the Primeira Liga this season. Sometimes a little under-par in higher profile games. A very solid member of the starting XI.
- Cristiano Ronaldo (17) / 6(13) app, 2 goals, 1 ass. Incredibly good at such a young age, has already shown all the potential in him. Will he improve fast enough at only 17 yr-old to challenge for a starting slot? That’s one of the unknown for next season.
- Albert Meyong (21) / 7(6) app, 1 goal. The neo-international for Cameroon has improved at training and shows great potential. Enough to be a starter? As AMC or SC? Not yet, thinks Forbs, who would like to keep him as sub.
- Artur Correia (21) / 1(2) app, 1 ass. An interesting profile, but enjoyed limited game time. May appear more often if he continues to fulfill his promises at training.

Marco Ferreira and Marajo have been very good, although not exceptional. Forbs is uncertain about trying to attract a higher profile player, knowing that C Ronaldo and also Meyong will continue to challenge for a starting spot.

-> No recruitement planned, unless an outstanding opportunity arises; or maybe another young profile to add depth.

Strikers

- Rui Miguel (27) / 26(8) apps, 24 goals, 2 ass, 6 MoM. 6th best scorer in the Liga after starting the season as a sub, Rui Miguel has simply been outstanding with an amazing goal/opportunities ratio. Setubal’s board have nevertheless decided to transfer him for a whopping £4m to Académica which he joined on June 1st.
- Rashidi Yekini (38) / 7(4) app, 2 goals, 2 ass, 2 MoM. The Setubal legend had at 37 yr-old a great start of the season, winning by himself the opener at the Dragão (4-2). A nasty injury in the automn and he never fully recovered, catching only glimpses of playtime. Has now decided to retire, so long champion !
- Nando (28) / 4(2) app, 4 goals. Recruited during the mercato, played seldom because Rui Miguel was so good, but was excellent when he was given a chance. A natural center-striker with big phsyical presence. May not have the depth to be a starter.
- Tiago Mota (21) / unused. Major improvements at training already make him an interesting option. Probably too soon still to contend for starter.

With in addition, forwards Meyong and Cristiano Ronaldo able to play as SC, Forbs has depth to compensate the departures of his star striker Rui Miguel and veteran Yekini. He must however recruit a high-profile striker to join the club.

-> Priority recruitement, for a high-profile starter as SC.

Kingsley
22-05-14, 08:30 AM
Nice round up. Stick with Pinhiero. He could become one of the worlds top keepers given a chance. Bosingwa looks like a good signing.

Marajo, Ferriera, Ronaldo and Miguel looks like a potent attacking force that could be getting goals for years. Add that striker and you have good options available too.

Looking forward to seeing the rest of your signings

kuy
22-05-14, 08:33 PM
Lots of good young players in midfield and attack. I'd consider giving Nando or one of the youngsters a chance up front before signing anyone. Sounds like you really need a left-back though

RuiEsteves
22-05-14, 10:03 PM
Lots of good young players in midfield and attack. I'd consider giving Nando or one of the youngsters a chance up front before signing anyone. Sounds like you really need a left-back though
Forbs could not resist recruiting 2 more strikers - a young prospect and a potential starter... I know, I know...

But he thinks he found his left-back which you were right, was a top priority :


http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p580/RuiEsteves/Rodrigo-300602_zps07499ef1.png (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/RuiEsteves/media/Rodrigo-300602_zps07499ef1.png.html)

A Brazilian international looking I must say extremely solid, coming from Cruzeiro against £1.6m (and a fat wage of £3.2k/w). What do you think? there's a DC and a D-R/C who have also joined, both of them African.

kuy
22-05-14, 10:39 PM
Rodrigo looks excellent, at 29 you should still get another three years out of him at least - and hopefully by then you'll have regular European football and be able to attract some star names!

RuiEsteves
22-05-14, 11:27 PM
Forbs still wanted to strengthen his defense beyond Brazilian star Rofrigo who would cover the left flank. It was time to use his existing networks and tap into Africa's huge talent pool.

At barely 19 yr-old arrives from Racing Genk Cameroonian international Eric Matoukou, for a club record transfer fee of £2m and a very high wage of £4k/w. He would have to adapt and learn Portuguese, but the young lad has extraordinary defensive and physical attributes for himself. Could be a starter from the go.


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Kingsley
23-05-14, 09:00 AM
Can't argue against either of these two signings. If the rest of your recruits are upto this quality, you will have a force to reckon with.

23-05-14, 10:01 AM
Can't argue against either of these two signings. If the rest of your recruits are upto this quality, you will have a force to reckon with.

+1

Fantastic signing in Eric :ok:

RuiEsteves
23-05-14, 08:30 PM
Thanks guys, never heard about either players in real life tbh, and no clue how Matoukou develops in cm0102...

RuiEsteves
23-05-14, 08:43 PM
It is one of those opportunities that happen only once in a while for a club like Setubal. The powerful defender had been released on free transfer from newly crowned European champions AS Roma... he was tough to convince and Forbs had to settle for the squad highest wage of £5.5k/w and a sign-on fee on £350k, but in the end Ivoirian/French Saliou Lassissi signed up. Either center or right back, he would in any case challenge for a starting spot.


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And then, closing a busy recruiting season for the club's rearguard, Forbs finally put his hand, for solely £180k to Maritimo, on young prospect at DC: Pepe.


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Tito had a rule that no more than 2 Brazilians could be in any starting XI and the club already had Rodrigo (DL) and Marajo (AMC), but Pepe still had time to develop and gradually get some playing time.

RuiEsteves
23-05-14, 09:03 PM
Star striker Rui Miguel was gone and legend Yekini was now retired and this time there would be no come-back. Nevertheless there were many options in the squad to chose from at the lone SC position :
- Nando (28)
- Tiago Mota (21)
or Forwards
- Cristiano Ronaldo (17)
- Marajo (21)

But Tito wanted someone else. There was only one striker position in his line-up so he had to pick-up someone who would deliver. Beira-Mar was now in Secunda Liga so Senegalese/Portuguese Fary was available for a small transfer-fee of £400k. He ticked all the boxes.


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Setubal scouts also mentioned another name, a young lad who was wasting his time at Sporting CP B. He had amazing talent they told Tito, but the coach had a more than complete squad in the attack department. £150k only. He watched a few videos: it was worth a try. João Paiva was on board.


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RuiEsteves
23-05-14, 09:17 PM
- At DL, with Rodrigo and Carlos, there was no future for Rui André (27) who went to Lusitanos for £110k

There were several young defenders who had not shown any sort of improvement at training last season and stood no chance to get solid play time. It was in everyone's interest that they left.

- Marco Almeida (19) went to Rio Ave for £100k
- Zé Pedro (21) to Alcains for £50k
- Estica and Ricardo Carmo were transfer-listed

Kingsley
24-05-14, 10:30 AM
Joao Paiva is a legend ! Him and Ronaldo together in a few years will rip Europe apart.

Very impressed with all of your signings. Fary I'm sure will get goals and you look to have made quality additions to all the key deficiencies that you had recognised. Bring on the new season.

RuiEsteves
25-05-14, 10:28 AM
With the exception of the UEFA Cup 1st round vs AS Roma in 2000 (1-0, 0-7) in which Vitoria competed while it had been relegated to Secunda Liga, the last European spell for the club had seen them participate in European competitions from 1966 to 1975 consecutively. It was time to close the parenthesis and add a new chapter to a glorious History.

Last season's 4th place allowed Forbs' boys to play directly the 2nd Qualifying Round of the UEFA Cup and they inherited of a relatively easy draw with modest Belgrade club of Obilic. It would be the first time they met a Serbian side in an official competition.

** August 8th, 2002 - UEFA Cup Qualifiers, Round 2 - Obilic Belgrade - Vitoria Setubal : 0-2

Tito Forbs had decided to forego any friendly match this year and he travelled to Belgrade with 4 new players in a rather unfit starting XI: Rodrigo, Matoukou, Lassisi and Fary. He also handed over the GK jersey to Marco Tabuas. Surprisingly Os Guerreiros clicked well from the start albeit not having played together for 3 months. On the 39' Fary scored on his debut with a well-placed kick, and on the 62' the Portuguese were awarded a generous penalty-kick which was converted by captain Hélio. (2-0), it was a perfect result against a weak Serbian side.

** August 22nd, 2002 -UEFA Cup Qualifiers, Round 2 - Vitoria Setubal - Obilic Belgrade : 1-1

It was not UEFA Cup proper yet, but the smell of Europe was finally back to Bonfim with Os Guerreiros in a good position for qualification. The lads rushed on the field with good intentions and dominated until Nélson Veiga scored with a beautiful header on the 30'. Then the game was much more balanced and the Serbs finally showed their skills. Setubal froze and could not avoid a justified draw (1-1); but they were through on aggregate (3-1) !

Benfica was less fortunate and failed to qualify after losing out to Croatian side Hadjuk Split (0-1, 0-0). Vitoria's president travelled to Geneva for the UEFA Cup 1st round draw along with the representatives of Santa Clara (who, unsurprisingly, got kicked out of the Champions Cup qualifiers) and Varzim. There were very big names against which Setubal could be set and the radio reporters Tito was listening to from his Bonfim office seemed relieved at the draw. Tito was not.

He knew his European football : playing Club Brugge KV in the 1st Round was anything but an easy draw. The Flemmish were a dangerous and talented side who had reached UEFA Cup 3rd Round the previous year. It would be very tough, but what a game the return in Bonfim would be!

RuiEsteves
25-05-14, 10:43 AM
** August 25th, 2002

Recruitement was complete, the interseason had been extremely long but Setubal did qualify for the UEFA Cup. Forbs was confident that his squad was solid, had more depth and better quality in the backs than last season. He chose to keep the same engine room at DMC with Luis Andrade, Hélio as captain and Sandro (Mendes). The Primeira Liga would start with 2 away fixtures, the first one against Gil Vicente.

And the game started woefully with new recruit Cameroonian Eric Matoukou being red-carded after only 3' for a killer-tackle. The 19 yr-old had not even touched the ball and he was out, banned for 3 domestic games as Forbs would find out later on. The game would be played 10 v 11. It did not seem to matter much for Setubal who convincgly dominated the first half with another African recruit not missing his game. Fary showed his striker abilities as he found the net on the 33' following a blunder from Gil Vicente's keeper, and then powered a header in the net from a corner-kick just 4' later. He would be MoM; maybe Rui Miguel would soon be forgotten after all...


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Hélio once again delivered for the coach and sealed the game with a great volley on the 50'. After which Os Guerreiros started to fatigue and suffer from playing one man down. Gil Vicente dominated the last half-hour and could, probably should, have scored. Marco Tabuas had a great day and kept a clean sheet, the end result (3-0) being great when looking at the scenario of the game. It was a good start before a torrid-looking September.

RuiEsteves
26-05-14, 09:25 PM
Setubal has faced Belgian clubs thrice in its European History, and has prevailed each time :

- UEFA Cup 1971 – Round 3 – Anderlecht (3-1, 1-2)
- UEFA Cup 1974 – Round 1 – Beerschot (2-0, 2-0)
- UEFA Cup 1974 – Round 2 – Molenbeek (1-0, 1-2)

In Tito Forbs’ mind it was clear that he was travelling to Jan Breydel stadion as if we were in the 1970’s, as if the 30 years parenthesis of a Vitoria relegated outside of European football had never existed. He knew he had a solid line-up and anticipated a tight game in the Flanders. He felt proud.

** September 12th, 2002

The game was tight, both teams had defensive line-ups and it was not in their DNA to take risks. Os Guerreiros were solid, the rear-guard made of / Rodrigo – Matoukou – Tonel – Nélson Veiga / looking much less permeable than last year’s defense. On the 13’ Marco Ferreira was floored in the box and captain Hélio converted what would be the sole goal of the game (1-0).


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Rodrigo was named MoM. Tito was pleased : it was an excellent result ahead of the return leg in Bonfim.

RuiEsteves
26-05-14, 09:44 PM
** September 16th, 2002 – Salgueiros v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2

The 3rd Porto side behind FC Porto and Boavista has just been promoted and Salgueiros started out very strongly their first home game in the Primeira Liga. Fortunately Marco Tabuas was on fire, delighted at having gained the trust of the coach and he denied them an opening goal, when at the 16’ Fary placed a wonderful header and gave a lucky early lead for the visiting Guerreiros (1-0). Setubal went on to dominate the rest of the game, solid but not stellar, and sure enough on a Marajo free-kick, Fary pounded another goal in the net on the 69’. (2-0), 2nd away win in 2 games, a solid looking defense and a striker on fire (5 goals in 5 games) : Forbs was a happy coach !

** September 22nd, 2002

There was bad blood to settle with Varzim. 7th of the previous season and finalist of the Cup, the northern club was the only one to have beaten Setubal in both games of the Liga (1-2 away, 0-3 at Bonfim). The slap received at home towards the end of the year had been particuarly hard to swallow for Tito Forbs. Varzim had fearsome attackers in Mendonça, Ricardo Ramos and Olivier Pickeu, but Tito knew his team was more solid this time around.

Every duel, every tackle, every contest was won by Os Guerreiros who played a remarkable game against a team which had 3W in 3 games in the Primeira Liga so far. Varzim was powerless, and they cracked in the air with 4 goals scored via headers.


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The inevitable Fary, an inspired Marco Ferreira, a determined Nélson Veiga and the elusive Marajo all scored while Sandro delivered 2 assist and was named MoM. It was the firt time under Forbs that Setubal won a game by more than 3 goals difference. What a great performance this win was.

Kingsley
27-05-14, 07:38 AM
Setubal on fire. When do you play the big boys ? That will be the true test of this new squad.

RuiEsteves
27-05-14, 07:40 PM
Setubal on fire. When do you play the big boys ? That will be the true test of this new squad.
coming soon ! :-)

RuiEsteves
27-05-14, 07:47 PM
Winners in Salgueiros (2-0), Brugge (1-0) and vs Varzim (4-0), Os Guerreiros are on fire for the second leg of their 1st UEFA Cup Round against a side Tito fears.

** September 26th, 2002 - UEFA Cup, Round 1 - Vitoria Setubal – Club Brugge : 0-0

The Flemmish start strongly and play in Setubal’s half for the first part of the game, showing great tactical skills. But Os Guerreiros are looking for counter-attack chances and on one of them at the 24’, Rodrigo from inside the area finds the post. It’s (0-0) at half-time and the game is undecided, Marco Ferreira being denied the opener by the crossbar at 50’ while Fary scores a beautiful goal on the 56’ - denied again for an offside position. Brugge dominates the last half-hour, with a great Marco Tabuas making 2 key saves around the hour, while Eric Matoukou (MoM) impresses in defense.

Club Brugge will not manage the goal , it’s been tight and a little lucky but Setubal are through (1-0 on agg) to the 2nd Round ! The record against Belgian sides remains spotless :

- UEFA Cup 1971 – Round 3 – Anderlecht (3-1, 1-2)
- UEFA Cup 1974 – Round 1 – Beerschot (2-0, 2-0)
- UEFA Cup 1974 – Round 2 – Molenbeek (1-0, 1-2)
- UEFA Cup 2002 – Round 1 – Club Brugge (1-0, 0-0)

The chances of drawing a bigger name obviously increase in the draw for the 2nd Round, and Vitoria will face… Turkish side Besiktas JK. Possibly a step higher than Brugge, pundits forecast an even battle between both clubs. The European adventure continues and for the first time Setubal will get to visit Istanbul !

RuiEsteves
27-05-14, 07:53 PM
Sporting CP are reigning champions and remain the reference these days in Portuguese football. Their interseason recruitement has been impressive with young Swedish midfield Kim Källström, Brazilians midfield Baiano and keeper Silvio Luis. Forbs’ men travel to Alvalade with ambitions, having suffered 2 defeats there last season (2-3, 1-3), but knowing they are passing their first real tough test of the season so far.

** September 30th, 2002 – Sporting CP v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0

Unlike the previous season, Os Guerreiros will hold out well in Lisboa, giving few opportunities to a side who will nevertheless dominate the game. There is not much Marco Tabuas can do when at the 21’ Rui Jorge pounds the ball into the net with a fierce shot from the side of the area (0-1). The champions are solid and the score won’t move. Vitoria is defeated again at the Alvalade, and for the 1st time this season. Tito knows there has been improvement, but he hates defeats and feels his team could have done better.

** October 2nd, 2002 - Vitoria Setubal – Vitoria Guimarães : 2-0

The Portuguese Federação has once again planned things great and allowed only 2 days between the game at Sporting and the important fixture at Bonfim vs rivals Guimarães. It usually is a spectacular game between the Vitoria’s; the northern visitors travelled in an attacking mood and will create chances from the go. It’s a wet day and it takes a while before Os Guerreiros get a hold on the game; they are helped when on the 29’ keeper Paulo Santos releases a slippery ball from a long shot, Fary scoring in the empty net (1-0). Gradually the game will become one-sided, the locals dominating with many more chances. Skipper Hélio, particuarly inspiring that day, seals the score with a great free kick-in on the 66’ (2-0). Another good solid game at Bonfim and a much deserved victory.

After 5 games (4W, 1D), Vitoria seats 3rd in the Liga, one point behind Sporting CP and FC Porto. Having scored 11 and conceded only 1, it is a great start of the season for Setubal and a much satisfied Tito ahead of the Turkish trip.

RuiEsteves
27-05-14, 07:56 PM
It’s the traditional 2 weeks October break to allow international fixtures – Marco Tabuas is called up in the Portugal squad but does not get his 1st cap. Forbs manages to keep his players focused and he travels to Istanbul with a full squad, miraculously spared by injuries since the end of August.

** October 17th , 2002

The 23k crowd in the Inönü stadium make an incredibly impressive noise; but Os Guerreiros are not of the soft kind and they shock the Turks with an intense pressing and good ball possession from the start. Besiktas have talent but are tactically outplayed as in-form right back Nélson Veiga (MoM) pounds a header for the opener (26’), followed a little later (39’) by Marco Ferreira who concludes at close range a great play by the Portuguese.


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There is nothing Besiktas can do and it is another impressive master victory away for Forbs, in a stadum where it is traditionally very tough to prevail. It truly is a great performance by Vitoria who will need to convert on the return leg.

Kingsley
28-05-14, 07:41 AM
2 away goals and a clean sheet. \looking good for the 3rd round now.

The defence has been particularly impressive. Is that just 2 goal conceded in 10 games and 8 clean sheets ?

RuiEsteves
28-05-14, 07:51 PM
The defence has been particularly impressive. Is that just 2 goal conceded in 10 games and 8 clean sheets ?
Yes sir. Marco Tabuas is having a great start, Rodrigo at left back is a step up from last season and Matoukou as centre back is quite something...

RuiEsteves
28-05-14, 07:56 PM
There’s no time for tourism in Turkey; the next fixture 3 days later is in the… Açores, so Os Guerreiros rush onto their plane on the Friday morning and arrive, exhausted, late at night that same day. Santa Clara are the surprise vice-champions of Portugal, but their start of the season has not been that great. Forbs knows there is an opportunity here.

** October 20th, 2002 – Santa Clara v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2

Last year Vitoria had imploded very early in the 1st half in Ponta Delgada (1-3 final score) and this time again, the locals set out all in attack. Marco Tabuas does a good job but the defense is shaken, tension mounts and at 24’ Marajo is red-carded for foul play. Santa Clara are denied a goal for an off-side position, but Os Guerreiros hold and Marco Ferreira scores with a header just before half-time, also denied for offside. (0-0) at half-time playing one man down, Tito is concerned about the 2nd.

But his boys have a better control of the game and the islanders start to lose steam. Fary hits the post at the 60’ while Ceara scores on the 65’ but is again denied, for this time a very fractional offisde position. That was close. Tito orders counter-attacking tactics and on one of them at 76’, Fary (MoM) alone in front of the keeper scores. The powerful Senegalese will score again at the 85’ following a very poor goal kick from Jorge Silva (2-0). Here is the difference with last season: a more robust defense, tight games but Setubal prevailing in the end. Tito is extremely pleased with that result, back-to-back after the victory in Istanbul.

** October 27th, 2002 - Vitoria Setubal – Académica : 2-0

A great game by Os Guerreiros, kings at Bonfim, they utterly dominate the match. Coimbra can do nothing against the power of Fary (MoM) who scores a 1st goal at 23’, and iniates the next one by Hélio at 31’. The scoreboard should have been much more severe for the visitors. Setubal have just recorded their 4th straight (2-0) victory.

- - - Updated - - -

@Eejit : that's now 2 goals conceded in 12 games, 10 clean sheets !

RuiEsteves
28-05-14, 08:00 PM
It’s basically a rhythm of 2 games a week almost, but the squad is solid and Os Guerreiros do have stamina. The return leg of the UEFA Cup 2nd Round is looming and Setubal has a 2 goal lead after the 1st match in Turkey. History must continue and Tito focuses his boys.

** October 31st, 2002 - UEFA Cup, Round 2 - Vitoria Setubal – Besiktas : 1-1

And this time, Besiktas will play to their level. Much more aggressive and willing to score that early goal which would entertain their hopes. Vitoria really struggles but survives the 1st half… except for that last push before half time and Ahmet Dursun scoring from outside the area (0-1). That’s a tough blow, tension mounts in the changing room but Tito steps away and let’s Hélio do the talking. His group is mature now and they do react from the go of the 2nd half, with a great collective play concluded by a Marajo header under the crossbar. It’s (1-1). That goal will remove the steam out of the Turks who will remain in control but not so dangerous.

Just like in the Qualifiers and in the 1st Round, Vitoria is through after a draw at Bonfim and thanks to an away victory. It is a great European achievement which once again makes Forbs proud.

Round 3 draw gets all the big names who dropped out of the Champions Cup 1st Group Phase, Vitoria this time has very little chance to avoid a much better side than them… and it will be Ukrainians of Shakhtar Donetsk, a very dangerous team but given the stakes, a more favourable draw than the previous ones. It should be balanced and Setubal do have a realistic chance here. 1st leg is in Bonfim.

RuiEsteves
28-05-14, 09:35 PM
The rythm remains tough and although they are once again struggling after a poor season in 2001/02 (14th), a visit to SC Braga is never quite the easy ride.

** November 3rd, 2002

Only this year, Os Guerreiros are really something else. It is quite clear very early in the game that they are much superior to their opponents and a great Marco Ferreira (MoM) silences the Estadio 1° de Maio at the 8’ (1-0). Braga are lucky to equalize on the 41’, but immediately after Fary scores (45’, 2-1) providing to his team a much deserved lead at half-time. Braga’s situation becomes even worse when Dika loses his temper and is red-carded right after half-time.


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Nélson Veiga scores a 3rd goal on a corner-kick at 58’ and with a very good Sandro in midfield, the scoreline could have been much worse for the hosts who will finish the game 9 v 11 after Luis Loureiro is shown the door towards the end. It’s yet another very convincing away victory for Setubal who have managed a great start of the Liga with (7W, 1L) so far.

kuy
28-05-14, 10:25 PM
You seem to be drawing a lot of big names in the UEFA Cup, but going well so far - good luck against Shakhtar!

RuiEsteves
29-05-14, 09:40 AM
** November 6th, 2002 - Vitoria Setubal – Boavista : 1-1

Boavista have had a terrible start of the season and are sitting just above relegation zone; but they’re a balanced and well organized side and come to Bonfim with high ambitions. Elpidio Silva scores early on (9’, 0-1) and Os Guerreiros greatly struggle for the first 20’. It takes all the skills of Marajo on a splendid free-kick (20’, 1-1) to level the score and get the locals back in the game.

For once Setubal suffer in midfield; there are chances on both sides but Ricardo is having a good day, and Marco Tabuas continues to impress (MoM). Surprisingly it is Boavista who push and dominate the end of the game and Forbs is relieved upon sharing the points when the final whistle is blown. Are European games starting to wear on Vitoria, are they losing steam?

** November 10th, 2002 - Vitoria Setubal – Naval : 2-0

Naval are part of the promoted sides this season with Farense and Salgueiros, and they are defending their chances reasonably well so far. They will provide a good challenge in Bonfim, Os Guerreiros will slightly dominate a rather tight game. It takes 2 great passes from Sandro (MoM), converted by star striker Fary (37’, 57’), for Setubal to prevail. The end game is relatively easy with Vilela from Naval being red-carded on the 79’.

** November 16th, 2002 – Portuguese Taça, Round 4 - União Madeira v Vitoria Setubal : 0-3

The 3rd club of Madeira (after Maritimo and Nacional) are 4th in the Secunda Liga so far, so Tito is not so happy when the draw has his Vitoria travel there for the Cup’s 4th Round. The islanders will push early on but soon get overwhelmed by the class of the Primeira Liga side. It’s an easy game for Os Guerreiros and left back Carlos has a blinder, with 2 goals. Fary will also score 1 (he now has 14 goals in 17 app, a phenomenal record). Setubal is through to the next round.

RuiEsteves
29-05-14, 10:11 AM
This time and unlike the previous rounds vs Obilic Belgrade, Club Brugge and Besiktas, the 1st leg vs Shakhtar Donetsk is played in Bonfim. Setubal might have avoided a big name, but Ukrainian football is undergoing a renaissance at the moment and Tito Forbs is weary, Donetsk fielding several young unknown players who are more than solid, such as :


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[they have lots of very good "greyed-out" players such as him...]

** November 21st , 2002 – UEFA Cup, Round 3, 1st leg

It was all about arriving on time at Bonfim because the game fires off immediately, with Shakhtar showing their skills in a magnificient collective play setting Vorobey for an early goal (5’, 0-1). But Setubal fights back and brings it to the visitors, Marco Ferreira (MoM) equalizing on the 8’. It’s a great game of football, slightly dominated by the Portuguese who will score a 2nd great goal on the 17’, with Marajo free in the area for (2-1). Os Guerreiros are close to bagging a 3rd before half-time, but everything changes at the hour mark when Rodrigo is logically red-carded as he fouls a Donetsk forward who was going for the goal.


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Setubal’s rear-guard of Matoukou and Lassissi (in the absence of Tonel) suffers greatly as the Ukrainians dominate the last half hour, Forbs asking his boys to remain in defense and look for counter-attacking chances. In the end Vitoria holds on victory (2-1), but Donetsk have scored an away goal and have been a major threat throughout a superb evening of European football. It is undecided for an exciting return leg in the cold Ukrainian automn…

Baron Zbimg
30-05-14, 08:20 AM
I really really enjoy the format of your story. Very interesting, I'm completely hooked. It usually pisses me off when the opposition plays very good greyed out players, I hope you kick their ass.

Baron Zbimg
30-05-14, 08:25 AM
BTW Lassissi is usually a star at Roma in the ODB, with yearly averages above 8 not uncommon at all, so he definitely could shine for Os Guereiros.

RuiEsteves
30-05-14, 08:58 AM
BTW Lassissi is usually a star at Roma in the ODB, with yearly averages above 8 not uncommon at all, so he definitely could shine for Os Guereiros.
Thanks for the tip Baron. Lassissi looks very strong, he is currently not a starter but still gets game time when either of Matoukou, Tonel or Nélson Veiga are out. He will play at the Donbass Arena which is my next fixture...

RuiEsteves
30-05-14, 09:32 AM
** November 29th, 2002 – Benfica v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0

It’s another big game for Os Guerreiros in the mythical Estadio da Luz against Benfica (ranked 4th in the Liga, 2pts behind Setubal). Forbs tactical layout with a very good Luis Andrade (MoM), will once again shut down opposition’s attackers (Mantorras, Nuno Gomes) with the hosts getting only 2 shots at goal the entire game (none on target). Vitoria will have more chances, especially in the 1st half, but in the end they have to settle for a draw in Lisboa. A good, solid result.

Tito Forbs gathered his team on that Friday evening upon the short return bus trip from Lisboa. They had worked superbly this season and had 6 days to get ready for what was maybe their biggest game so far, in Ukraine. Shakhtar knew their football and Setubal had been lucky to come out victorious in Bonfim. Both Rodrigo and Tonel were suspended for the return leg, and skipper Hélio had picked-up a light injury, he would play but somewhat diminished.

- “coming out of the Qualifiers, and then passing 3 Rounds in the UEFA Cup lads, that would be a huge achievement the kind of which has not been seen since the 1970’s Golden Era of Senhor Vitoria. Give it all you have, let’s make sure there’s nothing to regret. Fight hard, never give-up whatever may happen in Donetsk. We will do it boys.”

All the players cheered for the coach.

RuiEsteves
30-05-14, 11:19 AM
** December 5st , 2002 – UEFA Cup, Round 3, 2nd leg

The cold blizzard lashed unto Guerreiros faces as they landed in Kiev that Thursday morning. -1°C! that would render the upcoming battle even more epic, thought Tito as they boarded the bus for Donetsk.

The arena roared with 30k Ukrainians cheering for the oranger shirts, while a contingent of barely 50 Portuguese had managed to make the long trip across the continent. Hélio was injured but him and the cach had agreed that his presence was indispensable. The game started and surprisingly Shakhtar were cautious and there was an observation round, when Vitoria had been expecting a brutal onslaught from the start.

Then suddenly action kicked-in as on the 20’ Senegalese bulldozer Fary held his shoulder: he had to leave the pitch, Nando came in from the bench. That was a huge blow for Setubal given how amazing the center striker had been so far this year. A minute later, following a great move on the right wing, Brandão was left unmarked and half-volleyed the ball in the net. (0-1), Setubal had one knee down. But Guerreiros are Guerreiros, and shorrly after on the 23' it was sub Nando who dashed forward on a long ball and beat the Ukrainian keeper with an equalizing header. (1-1), a critically important away-goal!

The game was on and Donetsk pushed hard, clearly dominating. Their young striker Olexyi Belik was on fire and he was denied a goal on the 39’ for a very narrow offside. The crowd roared, Vitoria’s defense was under pressure and on the very next collective play by the oranges, Belik scored a great goal (40’). It was (1-2), both teams were tied (3-3) on aggregate and to make things even worse an injured Hélio had to come-off the pitch right before half-time. Setubal was one goal down and had lost their striker and skipper for the 2nd half!

RuiEsteves
30-05-14, 11:31 AM
They were all looking at Tito Forbs as if he had been an alien from another planet.

- " Lads, we are going to win this game and you know it".

The players doubted. They were (1-2) down on a freezing Ukrainian night with 30k fans erupting just outside the changing room; 2 starting defenders were suspended, their best player Fary was out injured, and so was their legendary skipper Hélio!

- "they're talented, but you're just better. Their defense is more shaky than you think. Look for Nando's runs, get deep and let's regain the midfield battle to cut-off their amunition supply. You will do it".

Forbs has this something special, this aura of autority that comes naturally with a few individuals. His Guerreiros would have followed him in hell if that's what it took, and they went back on the pitch full of confidence, and...


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... they did it! Nando (MoM) was amazing and he managed to set Marajo for the equalizer on the 58' leaving the Ukrainian defense shattered. Ednilson who came in as a sub for Hélio had a cracking 2nd half, cutting through Shakhtar's midfield and he set-up Marco Ferreira for a great 3rd goal on the 69'.

Shakhtar Donetsk were shattered, it was pure will and bravery which had seen Setubal score a surprise away victory (3-2) and power through to the last 16 of the UEFA Cup! it made headlines back home, with a record TV audience for the game. Forbs kept silent but deep down, he was glowing with pride for what the lads had done! it was all the more impressive that it was subs that made the difference, Nando in particular having been simply heroic while he had not had a single minute of first team play until then this season.

Baron Zbimg
30-05-14, 01:28 PM
Great win in December in Donetsk. Nando definitely has the attributes to be a goalscoring machine, having two very good strikers is a good problem.

RuiEsteves
30-05-14, 08:20 PM
Tito Forbs had a game v Belenenses to prepare and he decided, this time again, not to travel to Geneva for the 4th Round draw. But he knew this time, Vitoria was in great company amongst the last 16 of this UEFA Cup. Whomever they ended up against, it would be a much richer and better side than them. The choice was between :

- the Germands giants - Dortmund, Leverkusen
- the Spanish greats - Atlético Madrid, Valencia, Deportivo
- the terrible Italians - Atalanta, Perugia, Bologna
- the dangerous French - Lens, Bordeaux
- the glorious English - Leeds, West Brom, Blackburn
- Olympiakos and Galatasaray

Forbs knew it. His connection with Setubal was of the supernatural kind, and he knew before the draw that he would be set against the only team against which Vitoria had ever played in Europe from that lot of 15. It was an old rivalry but it was still vivid in many a mind here in Setubal. Their 4th round adversary would be the great Leeds United.

- in 1970/71 was the last edition of the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup. An in-form Vitoria reached the quarter-finals and narrowly lost to Leeds (1-1; 1-2) who would go on and win the trophy for a second time.
- but in 1973/74, probably Setubal's best season ever, the Portuguese club had its revenge when they eliminated Leeds in the 1/8e final (0-1; 3-1) only to lose again in the quarters vs Stuttgart

This would be the decisive 3rd tie. Leeds were the overwhelming favourites, having finished 3rd of the Premier League the previous season, and having been in the English top5 for the past 5 consecutive seasons.

RuiEsteves
30-05-14, 08:22 PM
Great win in December in Donetsk. Nando definitely has the attributes to be a goalscoring machine, having two very good strikers is a good problem.
Nando's attributes are perfect except for his Finishing which is poor. He has always been incredibly effective when Forbs used him and it is somewhat painful to see him bench so often, but Fary is a beast.

RuiEsteves
30-05-14, 11:01 PM
** December 8th, 2002 - Vitoria Setubal – Belenenses : 3-1

The Bonfim crowd cheered the European heroes as they entered the pitch against a dangerous Belenses side (ranked 6th). Despite the absences of Tonel, Hélio and Fary, Os Guerreiros played a great 1st half dominating their rivals and creating many chances, most of them parried by an excellent Marco Aurelio. It was Nando, the hero of Donetsk as he was now nicknamed, who logically scored the only goal in that period on the 38’ (1-0).

There was a dip in rhythm as the 2nd half started, and Rui Borges went past 3 defenders to score an amazing equalizer at the 58’ (1-1). Harsh for a Setubal side who was now hesitating to further attack, although Nélson Veiga (MoM) was as determined as ever on his flank. Nando has to come-off injured (3 weeks out, unlucky…) and the game tilted on the 83’ when keeper Marco Aurelio had no choice but to trip Meyong in the area. Red-card, penalty for a Sandro goal (2-1). For his very 1st professional game sub striker Tiago Mota went on to score a last goal for Vitoria, who won this tricky game ahead of their big clash in Porto.

** December 13th, 2002 – FC Porto v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0

The visit at the Dragão last year (4-2) remains in all Portistas memory; FC Porto has been quiet this season in the shadow of champions Sporting CP who are still battling in the European Champions Cup, but the big northern club is ranked 1st of the Liga with a splendid record of (11W, 1D, 1L). Since the sacking of controversed coach José Mourinho the team is more solid, albeit without any big interseason transfers.

Porto put pressure early on and Jankauskas is denied a goal on the 4’ for a very narrow offside. Setubal stay on the defense and hold on during the 1st half, but are dominated. The 2nd half is slightly more balanced, with very few chances for either side. On the 85’ while Vitoria is eyeing a good away draw, an excellent play on the left wing sees MoM Ricardo Costa power a header out of Marco Tabuas’ reach (0-1). That’s the winning goal for FC Porto; just like at the Alvalade, Os Guerreiros lose in the Liga to one of the big teams, having well resisted but shown little offensively.

** December 18th, 2002 - Vitoria Setubal – Farense : 1-0

Setubal dominate all game long a very defensive Farense side who came for the draw, with the sole Maki (ex-Setubal star striker) in attack. For most of the match Vitoria are denied a goal in spite of Marco Ferreira’s class (MoM), they push and it is Tonel who finds the net on a corner-kick at 74’. A narrow but much deserved victory.

Unlike last year the Primeira Liga is unbalanced this season with 4 teams only competing for the top spots: Os Tres Grandes and Vitoria Setubal ranked 3rd, 5 pts behind leader FC Porto and level with Sporting CP (who have one more game to play).


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With (10W, 2D, 2L) and a remarkable 5 goals conceded only (!!) so far, it has been a very convincing first part of the season for Os Guerreiros.

Kingsley
02-06-14, 08:21 AM
That is a phenominal defence that you have created. Now that Europe is out of the way for a bit, time to start cutting into the lead that Porto have.

BobMem
02-06-14, 01:17 PM
Amazing defence!

Good to see some old names, especially Joao Paiva! He was the best freebie available on the ODB I reckon. Give him some game time!!

KUTGW!

RuiEsteves
03-06-14, 11:01 PM
That is a phenominal defence that you have created. Now that Europe is out of the way for a bit, time to start cutting into the lead that Porto have.
Thanks! I am quite happy that I have been able to shape roughly the type of play and team I had in mind at the start of the story. As for the Liga, Tito Forbs still believes it is too early in his career to really be a title challenger and he believes the favourites are Sporting CP more than FC Porto ;-)

RuiEsteves
03-06-14, 11:04 PM
Good to see some old names, especially Joao Paiva! He was the best freebie available on the ODB I reckon. Give him some game time!!

Actually with the 3.9.68 patch he was not free at the start of the game - but still very much affordable. Don't know if he is as good as in the non-patched ODB though. I have only 1 striker position and 4 players in contention: Fary, Nando and youngsters Tiago Mota and João Paiva. The latter will have to work extra hard at training to convince the coach to give him game time!

RuiEsteves
03-06-14, 11:10 PM
** December 22nd, 2002 - Vitoria Setubal – Paços de Ferreira : 3-2

For the last game of the year Os Guerreiros were set vs the last of the Primeira Liga Paços de Ferreira, whom they utterly dominated throughout the 1st half. A phenomenal Sandro (MoM) scores very early on (3’), Hélio converts a penalty kick on the 21’ and Marajo is there for the 3rd at 31’. Setubal somehow lose their focus in the 2nd half, the visitors scoring a goal by Pepe Puntas and creating a number of chances for themselves. The 2 weeks break comes at a perfect time and Tito Forbs sends his players off for the entire Christmas week to spend with their families.

The year 2003 starts with a difficult visit to in-form Leiria.

** January 23rd, 2003

The full squad is fit and available for the game, which starts splendidly with a quick goal from a Fary's (MoM) header on the 3’ and a complete domination by Os Guerreiros, until … Rodrigo deflects a shot in his own goal which puts Leiria back in the game (1-1, 13’). Both sides will have chances before half-time.

Setubal push hard at the start of the 2nd half and around the hour Marajo finds the post on a free-kick, that should have gone in ! things turn bad when moments later on the 66’, Cameroonian striker Rudolph Douala dribbles past the entire defense and beats an uninspired Marco Tabuas (1-2).


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But Vitoria is too strong and will repeatedly assault the hosts penalty area, with Fary in outstanding form finding the net twice again (75’, 80’) for a great hat-trick (the first of the kind under Tito Forbs' mandate) while Marco Ferreira scores a final goal in counter-attack (4-2, 89’). It is a great and much deserved away victory for Forbs’ boys, and a great start to the new year.

RuiEsteves
03-06-14, 11:17 PM
** January 12th, 2003 – Portuguese Taça, Round 5 - Vitoria Setubal v União de Lamas: 3-2

Setubal inherits a favourable home draw in the Cup’s 5th Round against 17th ranked Secunda Liga side União de Lamas. Tito decides to rotate the squad a bit with Pedro Espinha, Hugo Costa, Lassissi, Ednilson, Cristiano Ronaldo, Nando starting while Bosingwa makes his 1st ever appearance under his new colours.

It is an easy game on the field with a massive domination by Guerreiros who score early on with Nando (5’), who will hit the post minutes later. But a very poor jump on a free-kick by Pedro Espinha sees Dani put the visitors back in the game (1-1, 19’). With an amazing Ednilson in the midfield, Marajo nicely set-up by Ronaldo will score an easy goal on the 35’. After half-time Lassissi seals victory with a great header (3-1, 64’), his 1st goal ever for the club, but young star forward Lourenço humiliates Vitoria’s defense on the 83’ and scores. Setubal are through (3-2) and it is much deserved, but a rather weak União de Lamas have managed to score twice at Bonfim. Not a good sign.

The current defensive trend is a worry for Tito Forbs. He has built his team around its rear-guard solidity, they’ve got to pick themselves up quickly and carry on with the clean sheets they pulled-off on the first part of the season. Setubal is very unlucky with the Round 6 draw which will have them travel to FC Porto in 2 weeks !

** January 20th, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal – Maritimo : 1-1

The men from the Madeira island had the feeling there were maybe points for grab in Bonfim, they attack and dominate the first 30’ with Zeca scoring on 35’ (0-1). Immediately after, Marajo equalizes through a splendid free-kick and this wakes up Os Guerreiros who should have scored another before half-time was it not for Jérôme Palatsi’s talent. Setubal first, then Maritimo later in the 2nd half will both have chances in a very open game but the keepers have a great night and Vitoria must share points at the end of the day. Tito can see his boys losing steam, while Sporting and FC Porto increase their lead…

** January 26th, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal – Gil Vicente : 2-0

It is a much easier game vs Gil Vicente, dominated from the go and wo are quickly down to 10 men after Luizão picks a 2nd yellow at 30’. Marajo (MoM) scores a 1st one just before half-time (43’) on a header, and a 2nd with a free-kick blasting through the wall (69’). The only bad news is Matoukou's slight injury, out for 10 days.

RuiEsteves
03-06-14, 11:21 PM
** January 29th, 2003 – Portuguese Taça, Round 6

Forbs was very frustrated with the semi-final elimination last year in the Taça do Portugal (1-3) at the Alvalade v Sporting, but this time again his Guerreiros will need to overperform at the Dragão if they want to progress. FC Porto are seating 2nd of the Liga, 1pt behind Sporting CP and are clear favourites.

There is no observation round and the rather small crowd (20k) gets to see a very open and enjoyable game from the start, but also a balanced game with Setubal looking dangerous every time. On the 32’ a counter-attack sees Marco Ferreira through and it’s (1-0) for Os Guerreiros, who almost score again immediately after while Porto are groggy. But the hosts rally the troops and on a series of corner-kicks right before half-time, an unmarked Capucho powers a header for the equalizer (1-1).

The 2nd half is splendid, both teams being very close one to another. Porto’s Brazilian midfield Rodrigo (MoM) is having a great night and he sets-up Jankauskas for a superb header which gives their side the lead (1-2, 56’). Vitoria push and one can feel they will get another one in the net, when suddenly…


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Sandro loses it and throws both legs forward in the area for an inevitable penalty-kick (he probably should have been red-carded here). (1-3), the game looks seaked and it is as if Sandro had almost done this on purpose. All the more frustrating that Setubal will utterly dominate the last 15’, Cristiano Ronaldo scoring from a corner-kick in the final minutes. It is the 3rd defeat this season (2-3), the 2nd at the Dragão, and Setubal are sadly out of the Portuguese Cup.

RuiEsteves
03-06-14, 11:30 PM
Tito feels betrayed. Sandro Mendes is one of his finest Guerreiros, a pilar last season, a city boy who went through all the ranks of Vitoria’s academy in the youth categories. He has remarkably settled to the DMC position and has been, behind Fary, the best player so far this season (27 app / 2 goa, 8 ass, 4 MoM, 7.70 avg. rating). Forbs had been trying to re-negotiate a contract for months but the insistance from Sandro to get a relatively cheap release clause (£1.3m) did not go well at the club.


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And now this. A professional foul in the area blowing away the Cup run. Forbs’ staffing now dead against Sandro’s supposedly “negative influence” on the last game and maybe, the squad. The media on the player’s back, the rumours of transfer. What a mess.

There’s a knock on Forbs’ office door; Sandro enters.

- “Son, you’re one of ours. Born and raised here, a true Guerreiro. Your performances this season have been great. Thank you for all you’ve done.”
- Sandro keeps silent, knowing what’s coming after the compliment.
- "But you know who I am and how I work. That tackle at the Dragão came out of nowhere and was completely unecessary. It cost us the game. Your agent has rejected 3 of my bids to you for a new contract. There are rumours in the press and worse, in the changing room. I am giving you an official warning. You want out of here, let us know and I will understand although I would prefer you to stay. But one more misconduct and you’re out of the team. Do you have anything to say, son?”
- “No boss”, mumbled Sandro.
- “Then I’ll see you tomorrow morning at training.”

Sandro’s silence meant only one thing : he was going to ask to leave at the end of this season. It was very unfortunate given the fixtures ahead of the club and the huge games coming. But Tito had planned for the future, Ednilson was on fire and Bosingwa progressing every day. There were other options at DMC, for sure.

RuiEsteves
03-06-14, 11:34 PM
** February 3rd, 2003

Matoukou was still out injured but Sandro was on the pitch at the start of the game in Guimarães. It was a tight and very tactical game, both defenses being very solid. The northern players were dangerous especially on the wings, and Marco Tabuas had a busy day deflecting several shots, while in defense Brazilian Rodrigo (MoM) had a cracker. Sandro was on the spot and his attitude during the game was impeccable, his fighting spirit second to none. The reaction of a true Guerreiro.

Skipper Hélio picked-up a knock and was subbed at half-time by Ednilson who was again, very good in the 2nd half. Setubal looked always dangerous but the game was logically going to be drawn when Tito Forbs made a last change. Marco Ferreira was having a very average game and had suffered a dip in performances recently, while Cristiano Ronaldo was clearing gearing up at 18 yr-old.


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Bang ! what a run and what a shot for the winning goal and the first ever in the Portuguese Primeira Liga for the rising star. He had tilted the game on his own, getting 2 more pts for the club. A great result.

RuiEsteves
03-06-14, 11:42 PM
** February 10th, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal – Salgueiros : 2-1

It should have been a relatively easy game at Bonfim, but Os Guerreiros had to work very hard despite their intense domination. Mainly because of young keeper Vitor Oliveira (on loan from PSG) who denied them a goal for a long time, while on a classical counter-attack on the right wing at 33’, Artur Vicente was quicker than the defense and gave the visitors an undeserved half-time lead (0-1).

Setubal never lost the faith, with a superb Sandro (MoM) being the main man in the middle especially in the absence of skipper Hélio, injured. Sandro who was the one getting that key header on the 53’ on a corner : (1-1). Vitoria kept on pushing with subs Nélson Veiga, Marajo and Nando bringing a lot as they came in. But the game was again going for a draw, Ednilson having to walk out the pitch slightly injured on the 86’ leaving Os Guerreiros at 10 v 11… when on a last corner-kick, the always oportunistic Nando volleyed the ball into the net for a deserved victory. Yeah !

It was tough to follow the crazy rhythm of Sporting and FC Porto (2nd, 1pt behind) but Setubal was the only club able to do it and they were 3rd, 5pts behind the leaders.

** February 3rd, 2003

Was the same syndrom going to strike Tito Forbs as last season when his defense imploded in the final months? Varzim is always a very crazy side to play for Tito, with the record (0-3) home defeat last season and then the record (4-0) home victory this season. Varzim was a solid 5th of the table, but was now their 3 main forwards, injured : Mendonça, Olivier Pickeu and Ricardo Ramos. It was a great opportunity to beat them away.

And this happens. 8 goals. A (3-1) lead blown up, a (4-3) at the 80’ also blown up. This was not Os Guerreiros, this was not what Tito wanted; this was a farce. Marco Tabuas who was having a great season so far, was to blame on this game, for sure. But he was not alone; the passivity of Matoukou and even more Tonel was shocking. The number of chances created by Varzim on the wings were also a shame, with defenders such as Rodrigo and Lassissi unable to contend them.


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Setubal had dominated that game head and shoulders with a huge offensive power and goals from an in-form Cristiano Ronaldo (18’) who was gradually taking the starter position from Marajo; another goal by Lassissi on a corner-kick, one from Fary despite his poor form in 2003 and the now classical late goal by Nando which should have been the winning goal on the 80’. This was a major opportunity blown to almost level with FC Porto who had finally lost at Maritimo (0-1), and it meant Sporting CP was now clear 7pts ahead of Vitoria at the top, cruising to a 2nd consecutive title.

Forbs was fuming. He also had to face a lot of changes within his squad, with the evidence by now that Ronaldo had to start every game while neither of Marco Ferreira nor Maraja were having a great season; Fary had clearly lost his early season form and while Nando appeared amazing at 29 yr-old every time he got on the pitch, Tiago Mota and even more João Paiva had displayed indredible talent at training practice lately. And finally there were Ednilson and Bosingwa who were challenging both skipper Hélio (injured lately) and a Luis Andrade who was very quiet compared with last year.

Tito Forbs had to settle his starting XI quickly and decide on a course of action to restore his defense and be ready for the big games ahead.

Kingsley
04-06-14, 08:08 AM
Varzim v Setubal must be great games for the neutral. Always lots of action. The title may be a bit of a challenge now, but I hope you can sort the team out to claim that second place. That would be good progress for your team.

kuy
04-06-14, 09:11 PM
I think the title might be out of your reach now, but qualifying for Europe again would be good, so you can sign the best players.

RuiEsteves
05-06-14, 03:09 AM
Varzim v Setubal must be great games for the neutral. Always lots of action. The title may be a bit of a challenge now, but I hope you can sort the team out to claim that second place. That would be good progress for your team.
Let's see if the final sprint goes better than last season. I am still to play both Sporting CP and FC Porto at Bonfim !

RuiEsteves
05-06-14, 03:11 AM
I think the title might be out of your reach now, but qualifying for Europe again would be good, so you can sign the best players.
It's really Sporting CP, FC Porto, Setubal - and the rest light years behind (Benfica, Varzim, Belenenses). Unless there's a complete meltdown, qualifying for Europe again should not be a problem.

RuiEsteves
05-06-14, 03:15 AM
** February 23rd, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal – Santa Clara : 3-0

It’s a comfortable Sunday in Bonfim as Os Guerreiros take an early lead with 2 easy goals by Fary (4’) and Marajo (12’). Having learnt the lesson from Forbs after the Varzim game, his players then control the match and deny chances for the opposition. The Açorans don’t have the talent to really be a threat and Fary (MoM) shows the coach he is still on top of his game with a late 2nd goal, his 20th of the season so far.

That was a solid run-up to the next home game which will see legendary Premier League side Leeds United visit Bonfim! anticipation mounts in the city...

Kingsley
05-06-14, 08:21 AM
Confidence builder. Now time to smash Leeds.

05-06-14, 10:54 PM
Still enjoying this thread.

Fary, now he brings back memories. I used to sign him myself :ok:

RuiEsteves
07-06-14, 02:08 PM
Confidence builder. Now time to smash Leeds.
Now let's get realistic here....

RuiEsteves
07-06-14, 02:42 PM
The big day had arrived. English football was at the pinacle of its legend and talent when Vitoria was a force to be reckoned with on the European scene in the 1970's, so for most having Leeds visiting again 3 decades later was as prestigious as it could get. So far the record of Setubal vs English sides was:

- UEFA CUP 1969 - 1/4 final - v Newcastle United (3-1, 1-5)
- UEFA Cup 1970 - Round 2 - v Liverpool (1-0, 2-3)
- UEFA Cup 1971 - 1/4 final - v Leeds United (1-1, 1-2)
- UEFA Cup 1973 - 1/4 final - v Tottenham Hotspur (2-1, 0-1)
- UEFA Cup 1974 - Round 3 - v Leeds United (3-1, 0-1)

ie 2 qualifications for 3 eliminations (each time in quarter-finals).

** February 27th, 2003

There was no doubt the quality of the English side was superior with players such as Ian Harte, Jonathan Woodgate, Harry Kewell, Lee Bowyer, Robbie Fowler or Mark Viduka, all possessing skills and experience which were lacking to Os Guerreiros. The home side had had plenty of rest due to, for once, smart re-scheduling by the Portuguese Federação; but Luis Andrade was suspended for 2 yc while Cristiano Ronaldo was rested due to a light injury.

There was no round of observation as it was clear from the start that Leeds came to win the game and threw themselves with a lot of passion towards the Portuguese defense. Setubal was not bullied and resisted well, but there was serious talent on the other side of the pitch and not much that could be done as Lee Bowyer found the net on the 18' after a splendid move on the right-hand side (0-1). After the goal Leeds continued to pressure the midfield and the game was undecided with both sides having chances; on the 33' after a good forward drive, Marco Ferreira spotted the Senegalese striker in the area and Fary (MoM) converted with a great half-volley. (1-1), Setubal held until half-time and was back in the game! but the skills of the English were fabulous. The crowd loved it.

The game stalled at the start of the 2nd half, as if Leeds had realized how dangerous Setubal was and was trying to control what was a good result. Lee Bowyer was one of the main danger men in midfield, but up front it was Australian striker Viduka who was dominating the pair of Matoukou and Tonel, and on the 75' he scored with a great volley from 20m out for (2-1). Bonfim pushed as the game had suddenly been revitalized, and Fary launched a spectacular raid resisting all the English challenges to offer a beauty to a free Marco Ferreira for, again, the equalizer on the 76' (2-2).

What a last quarter this was going to be, defenses were on the brink of collapse when...


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GOAL ! GOOOOOOOAL by Rodrigo on a corner-kick, his first-ever for Vitoria by the Brazilian left-back ! on the 81' ! Despite their experience and their internationals, Leeds had cracked in the final minutes while they had the game under their grasp, what a come-back by Os Guerreiros! They would hold on to victory until the bell, and Leeds fell at Bonfim!

The return game was just a week from now and Forbs knew that the pressure at Elland Road would be close to unbearable, but Vitoria definitely had a shout at this.

kuy
07-06-14, 02:58 PM
Great result, but unfortunately I think they'll have too much for you back at Elland Road

RuiEsteves
07-06-14, 03:41 PM
Great result, but unfortunately I think they'll have too much for you back at Elland Road
Leeds are seriously good, I would say slightly better than Sporting CP. A guy like Viduka walks over my central defense. The good surprise was the number of chances I created and the finishing skills of my forwards, I also fared quite well in midfield. In the end Setubal had 10 shots, 7 on target and Leeds had 10 shots, 6 on target.

We'll give it all we can in northern England and try to shock them. Luis Andrade will be back and I may decide to play Ronaldo although it is a tight call between him and Marajo.

Kingsley
07-06-14, 05:23 PM
I notice that Ian "GBH" Bowyer didn't get sent off and Harry "Sicknote" Kewel was not injured during that game. Lightning can't strike twice, so I think you will walk it.

BobMem
07-06-14, 07:40 PM
I notice that Ian "GBH" Bowyer didn't get sent off and Harry "Sicknote" Kewel was not injured during that game. Lightning can't strike twice, so I think you will walk it.

But Ian "the hitman" Harte also didn't score a great free kick. Swings and roundabouts!

RuiEsteves
09-06-14, 10:07 AM
** March 6th, 2003

It's freezing and snowing in northern England as Forbs and his full suqad (no injuries, no suspension) land in Leeds for the return leg. All the elements of a huge battle are coming together and Elland Road is boiling as Os Guerreiros make it to the pitch.

They are determined, incredibly mature and composed for such an inexperienced side. They're made of a metal that does not shake, they calmly look at the stands and into the eyes of their opponents. Determined.

The first waves on English onslaughts start but the defense is solid with Matoukou and Tonel controlling center field, and Marco Tabuas being safe in his moves. There's only one shot at goal from Leeds during the first 20'; on the 22' Setubal move quick in a counter-attack with Marco Ferreira setting up Fary who blast his shot towards keeper Emil Waters.... he's short, it's a GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL for Vitoria who take the lead !

The control Os Guerreiros display until half-time is phenomenal, that half has been the easiest of the 3 played so far vs Leeds. In spite of the weather conditions which should favour the home side, it is the Portuguese who seem more comfortable.


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The 2nd half starts with the same set-up, although English pressure starts to mount. Elland Road is pushing. Luis Andrade who is having another great game, picks up a yellow; later Rodrigo is very very close from being red-carded and gets away with yellow, then it is Sandro who is warned by the ref. Setubal is under pressure but does not crack, the English bombard the area with crossing from the flanks but get few clear chances at goal.

Time is ticking, there are only 10' left. Tito decides not to make a single substitution, as if to make it even more legendary with the same 11 warriors on the pitch. The last minutes are hell, and this time it takes 2 greats saves by Marco Tabuas to prevent an English goal. The whistle blows. Elland Road is silenced, Os Guerreiros fall in the snow, in tears. Forbs rushes on the pitch for the first time in his 20 months at the helm of the club. They've achieved the unthinkable: minnows Setubal have eliminated one of the best sides of the English Premier League. For the 5th time in its History, the club has reached the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup.

RuiEsteves
09-06-14, 10:11 AM
Wow, that was quite a game. I would have never thought I could keep a clansheet at Elland Road, although I suspected I would score at least once. The English only got 3 shots at goal, all on target - I managed 7 shots with 2 on target. Luis Andrade has saved in the area so many heated situations, making here a last minute tackle, there a decisive header; and Marco Tabuas did not let me down in the dying minutes with 2 great saves.

Kingsley
09-06-14, 10:23 AM
YES !

I knew you could do it. That was some game and I love the backs-aginst-the-wall description.

The reward (if you can call it that) will be someone even bigger than Leeds. My money is on an Italian club. You always get Napoli or Lazio or Parma at this stage.

kuy
09-06-14, 10:28 AM
Amazing result!

RuiEsteves
09-06-14, 03:54 PM
The reward (if you can call it that) will be someone even bigger than Leeds. My money is on an Italian club. You always get Napoli or Lazio or Parma at this stage.
Are you a sort of devine? ;-)

RuiEsteves
09-06-14, 08:30 PM
With the UEFA Cup games Setubal's schedule had become a nightmare, with 2 Primeira Liga games which would now be played later and on Wednesdays and the European quarter-finals already looming for next week. Miraculously spared from injuries for the time being, Tito Forbs' squad was never the less put under serious pressure, playing almost 2 games every week now.

This time again Tito decided to prepare the trip to Naval with his men and dispatched his assistant to Geneva for the quarter-finals draw to represent the club. With Sporting CP out of the Champions' Cup and the unexpected victory at Elland Road, Setubal's run was now followed by all Portuguese sporting media so the anticipation for the draw was big.

Of course at this stage there were only big boys left, the real surprise being Setubal's presence.

- Atlético Madrid, Deportivo La Coruña
- Borussia Dortmund
- Bologna 1909
- Blackburn Rovers
- Racing Club de Lens, Girondins de Bordeaux

While the media wanted to avoid the Spaniards and Dortmund - tipped as competition favourites - Tito did not care who he would meet. It would be very tough in any case, but not particularly tougher than Leeds United.

When the radio reporter announced the draw, he could only hope that it would not snow this time around when they would visit next week northern Italy for the first leg of their quarter-final fixture vs Bologna 1909, currently sitting 14th of Serie A and who had qualified from the Intertoto. He knew nothing about the Italian squad, so his nights would be short with a lot of videos to watch.

[well done Eejit for guessing the nationality of our opponent, you had 1 chance out of 7. It's not however one of the "bigger" calcio sides, I have to admit I know almost no Bologna player. They seem to be struggling in Serie A right now, so I may as well have a chance. They however play with wingers and we are usually not very good against those tactics.]

RuiEsteves
09-06-14, 09:16 PM
** March 9th, 2003 - Naval v Vitoria Setubal : 0-3

Promoted Naval are last of the Primeira Liga and have been struggling all season long, so when ex-Setubal player Paulo Filipe is sent off on the 12' for a two-feet tackle on Fary, Tito Forbs knows the evening will be comfortable. Os Guerreiros will indeed have an arm-chair ride, even in the absence of Hélio and Marajo both rested ahead of the Bologna game. Cristiano Ronaldo (MoM) is on fire and scores a wonderful free kick on the 12' (he will later slam another one on the crossbar); Naval are never dangerous and will not manage a single shot at goal during the whole game. Ednilson and the inevitable Nando will both score in the last 10' for a clean 3-0 victory.

It's a full squad ahead of the first leg v Bologna. Except for Sandro who is suspended after 3 yc in Europe. There is not much Tito needs to do or say to motivate the troops. They are getting so much media attention for their incredible European run that they are absolutely focused. With Sporting and FC Porto still ahead and Benfica being 12pts behind at 4th position in the Liga, Forbs has decided that Europe was the priority from now on.

Setubal has a proud History v Italian sides in Europe, although they have never crossed the path of Bologna before. Current record is:

- UEFA Cup 1966/67 - Round 1 - v Juventus (0-2, 1-3)
- UEFA Cup 1968/69 - Round 3 - v Fiorentina (3-0, 1-2)
- UEFA Cup 1972/73 - Round 2 - v Fiorentina (1-0, 1-2)
- UEFA Cup 1972/73 - Round 3 - v Inter Milan (2-0, 0-1)
- UEFA Cup 1999/00 - Round 1 - v AS Roma (1-0, 0-7)

meaning 3 qualifications for 2 eliminations (and a proper routing 3 years ago in Rome). Tito now hopes to add a new (positive) chapter.

RuiEsteves
09-06-14, 11:19 PM
** March 13th, 2003

Leif Sundell is a name that will live in infamy at Setubal for quite a while. Tito Forbs is always the gentleman so he did not utter a word about the Scandinavian, but he was boiling deep down knowing how the referee had killed the game for Vitoria in a very brutal way.

It was a pleasant evening at Renato Dall' Ara in Bologna when after just 2' following a nice Italian move, Bellucci received a pass in the area and was apparently tripped by Marco Tabuas who was immediately red-carded. A very very harsh decision and (0-1) for the hosts; Pedro Espinha came on for Marajo. The most terrible start possible to this quarter-final.

Os Guerreiros were clearly suffering but still in the game. On the 32' coming from behind, Eric Matoukou trips Cipriani. This is outside the area and Matoukou has not been warned yet. Sundell runs towards the Cameroonian: red-card. The first one was harsh, this one was ridiculous. Marco Ferreira left the pitch, Saliou Lassissi came on. You can't play a game of football at 9 v 11, let alone a UEFA Cup quarter-final. The party was spoiled. Pedro Espinha made two terrible blunders right after that and Bologna were (0-3) up after goals by Nervo on the 36' and Cipriani (MoM) on the 40'. It was game over.


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At half-time Forbs asked his players to park the bus. They miraculously managed to hold on to the score. It was a heavy defeat, 2 key players out for the return leg and a horrible sensation of having been robbed. What a disastrous night.

Baron Zbimg
10-06-14, 08:54 AM
Terrible result, you had no chance with 9 men. You'll need an amazing performance at Bonfim, I think you can still do it.

Fourfourtwo
10-06-14, 09:22 AM
So unlucky... all out attack for the home leg I think... time to unleash Ronaldo?

Kingsley
10-06-14, 09:25 AM
Must have been a brown envelope passed to have 2 guys off in the first half hour. Terrible luck - you deserved better

RuiEsteves
10-06-14, 09:29 PM
Yeah guys I am truly gutted. The 2nd red card was a killer and broke our legs, had the Italians been more ambitious in the 2nd half the scoreline would have been much heavier.

RuiEsteves
10-06-14, 09:32 PM
** March 16th, 2003 – Farense v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0

Setubal feel knocked-out after the routing in Bologna (0-3) and it is a tough task for Tito Forbs to remotivate his troops for that game in Faro sandwiched between both ties of the UEFA Cup quarter-finals. Farense are a dangerous side and will dominate the 1st half at São Luis, being a denied a goal for offside and other chances by a great Marco Tabuas (MoM). Os Guerreiros regain some composure and quality play in the 2nd half, but they are not focused enough to take the 3 pts and have to settle with a goal-less draw.

Getting near Sporting CP and FC Porto seems less and less likely now.

RuiEsteves
10-06-14, 09:50 PM
Tito Forbs was in an impossible situation with this terrible result in Bologna (0-3). Team's morale was low. Marco Tabuas who had had a great season so far was suspended for the return leg in Bonfim, and Tito realized he had made a huge mistake not selecting Hugo Pinheiro in the elligible squad since he was loaned out to Portimonense. That meant there would be only one goalkeeper on the match squad - 37 yr-old Pedro Espinha. Eric Matoukou who had been an essential piece of central defense was also suspended. What a mess.

** March 20th, 2003

There was no other choice : Tito was going for outright attack from the start, asking all players but one DC to come forward on set pieces, taking all risks. It was not in the team's habits nor in the coach's mentality, but at 3 nil down there was no other choice left, and no room for any regrets afterwards. Cristiano Ronaldo started, in place of Marajo.

The crowd was there in numbers, hoping for a miracle. Os Guerreiros did not start as strong as one could have expected and let the Italians breathe. On the 16' Claudio Bellucci (MoM) was left unmarked in the area and easily beat Pedro Espinha (0-1). Game over. Gradually Vitoria awoke and had a very strong end of the first half, dominating Bologna but an amazing Gianluca Pagliuca (36 yr-old) made great saves and preserved his team's lead.

The 2nd half was a one-sided affair with Setubal clearly dominating the game but failing to convert their chances. On the 58' following a corner for the locals, Bellucci rushed alone in counter-attacked, resisted twice the challenge of Tonel and scored again (0-2).


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Bonfim and Setubal were kneeled on the ground. Slapped. (0-5) in aggregate, a whitewash. There would not even be a consolation goal before the final whistle. This was football. They were out of the UEFA Cup, they had to take it on the chin and grow from the disappointment and the cruel scenario which had unfolded. That's what Tito asked of the boys, who still had a long end of season in the Liga and a 3rd place to consolidate.

RuiEsteves
10-06-14, 10:34 PM
Tito needed to motivate his troops after the European debacle and their dream evaporated. It was not easy, but maybe the trip to a struggling Académica (17th) would be a good opportunity to shine.

** March 23rd, 2003 - Académica v Vitoria Setubal : 0-4

Os Guerreiros had a splendid game, dominating all evening long a very weak opposition on their home turf. Within half-an-hour Coimbra were knocked-out, Nélson Veiga scoring on the 6' with a great header from the right hand post, with the great Fary (MoM) bagging in 2 goals (14', 31') after enjoying great service from playmake Marco Ferreira. Hélio converted a penalty kick in the 2nd half (52') and the scoreline could have been even heavier.

A comprehensive (4-0) victory which was a nice confidence booster before the 1st of the rescheduled games Setubal had to play in mid-week : vs champions Sporting CP in Bonfim. The only bad news was the combined absence of Rodrigo and Matoukou for 5YC in the Liga.

** March 26th, 2003

The great Sporting CP was visiting Bonfim sitting 2nd in the Liga right behind FC Porto but with a chance to overtake their northern rivals tonight in case of victory. For Setubal, this game was an opportunity to redeem themselves and finally beat the great Lisbon club while still dreaming of a better final ranking than the 3rd spot which seemed promised to them.

Bonfim roared when Cristiano Ronaldo rushed forward brilliantly, his shot parried by keeper Silvio Luis but Fary was first in the box and opened the score on the 4' (1-0). Os Guerreiros pushed hard but agile winger Ricardo (MoM) dribbled past the entire defense and beat a helpless Marco Tabuas on the 10'. Mentally Vitoria were shaken, and litterally the next minute Ricardo free in the area gave his side the lead (1-2). On the 21' Lassisi who was playing instead of Matoukou, challenged Jardel from the back and got... red-carded for professional foul. Another very dubious refereeing decision going against Setubal who did not need that. What had Tito Forbs done to God to deserve such treatment in such important games?

It was always going to be tough from that point on.


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The game remained balanced for a while, but in the end Sporting had tons of chances which they failed to convert, but still logically won that key game for their run towards a 2nd consecutive title. Setubal had failed again, they now had no real chance to fight for anything else than 3rd spot until the end of the season.

BobMem
16-06-14, 02:27 PM
All I see is red cards in important matches, seem to remember Mark going through a similar phase in "World of Football Managment", hopefully it willl even out for you in future crunch matches.

Kingsley
16-06-14, 02:43 PM
Make that 3rd place your own. Sporting look to be just too strong at the moment.

RuiEsteves
17-06-14, 10:54 PM
** March 30th, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal v Braga : 2-2

There were 8 games left in the season and Forbs had one single goal : get his team focused and avoid a meltdown similar to that of the end of last season. The target was to hold onto that 3rd spot Setubal had occupied for so long.

Braga was having a poor season, but had nothing to lose at this point and caught Vitoria by surprise with an early goal in the 2’ by Basilio Almeida. Captain Hélio did the job and rallied the troops; he pounded a volley on the 14’ which was released by keeper Quim, and converted from short range by Cristiano Ronaldo (1-1). Os Guerreiros moved to second gear and dominated the rest of the 1st half, but got shocked on the 45’ when Prokopenko finsihed a superb move by Braga to give them the lead (1-2).

2 goals conceded in Bonfim and his lads running behind again, Tito was concerned. There was some relief when Hélio equalized with a great header on the 61’ (2-2), but no matter how hard they tried Setubal failed to score another one and had to settle for another draw in the Liga.

** April 2nd, 2003 – Boavista v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2

Setubal play another re-scheduled game on a Wednesday and that we will the last of 5 weeks in a row where they have played twice a week. Much like Braga, Boavista have wasted their season but remain a dangerous and talented side. Os Guerreiros start the game full speed and utterly dominate the first half-hour. An in-form Marco Ferreira (MoM) scores after a nice move on the 6’; Boavista’s defense is incredibly shaky and it is a miracle that Fary had to wait until the 34’ for the 2nd goal (2-0).

But everything changes when on the 37’, after another strong challenge from the back, Eric Matoukou is red-carded for the 3rd time this season. That’s enough, Forbs will deliver an official warning while the Cameroonian receives a 3 games ban from the Federação. There has been an incredible string of harsh refereeing decisions against his side, the coach will have to get it sorted for next season but it cannot continue like this. Boavista see their chance and suddenly push, and just before half-time Elpidio Silva scores from a header (2-1).

The 2nd half is pulsating and dominated by the Porto side with a goal by Semedo denied for off-side around the hour; while Vitoria look for the counter-attacks and are close to scoring again on several occasions. It’s close but they manage to hold to a deserved victory which will go along way in securing their 3rd spot.

With 6 games to go, the League Table now looks like this :


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In 4 days Setubal receive 4th ranked Benfica at Bonfim, but with an 11pt margin Os Guerreiros now look comfortable for the 3rd spot. Sporting CP are 4pts clear of FC Porto and hot favourites for a 2nd consecutive title. Can Setubal claim the 2nd spot from FCP? Very unlikely, although the northern giants will be visiting Bonfim in a few weeks…

Kingsley
18-06-14, 12:14 PM
Win the game with Porto and anything is possible. You have the better goal difference and 3rd is virtually secure, so why not go for it

3 red cards in a season for Matoukou. He deserves more than a wrning and if he doesn't like it he knows where the exit door is.

RuiEsteves
25-09-14, 08:43 PM
Sorry lads, temporarily ran out of steam on this one, but it ain't dead (yet). I will post a short update of the end of this 2nd season games, final rankings, etc... stay tuned!

RuiEsteves
25-09-14, 08:54 PM
** April 6th, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal v Benfica : 1-1

Os Guerreiros score early on by Fary (MoM) and will utterly dominate the great Lisboa side, until Nuno Gomes' equalizer on the 29’ (1-1). Setubal has to settle for the draw but keeps their main rival for the 3rd spot at bay.

** April 13th, 2003 – Paços de Ferreira v Vitoria Setubal: 0-0

Vitoria struggles in a tight game vs 17th ranked Paços de Ferreira; it’s an uninspiring (0-0) draw in the end, which makes it almost impossible for Tito’s side to challenge FC Porto for the 2nd spot anymore.

After the game Sandro commits the unreparable. He lashes out, in front of the press, against his team mates and the club. Uproar in Setubal. Tito had warned his Guerreiro so there is nothing to discuss anymore: Sandro is immediately put on the transfer list, in the reserves and is not to wear the Setubal jersey again this season. The coach gets the ful backing from the board… and the rest of the players.

** April 19th, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal v FC Porto : 0-1

Still battling for the title, FC Porto start the game strong and score by Capucho on the 7’. Startled by the opening goal Os Guerreiros freeze, but will finish the 2nd half strongly albeit failing to score what would have been a deserved equalizer. It is the 3rd defeat out of 3 games vs FCP this season.

RuiEsteves
25-09-14, 08:59 PM
** April 26th, 2003 – Belenenses v Vitoria Setubal: 0-3

It’s finally a great game and a striking victory in Lisboa by Os Guerreiros, who score 3 goals in a stunning 1st half by Marco Ferreira, Cristiano Ronaldo and a resurrected Fary (MoM). Young Bosingwa has a great game in midfield (2 ass) while Tonel shines in defense throughout a more difficult 2nd half.

** May 3rd, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal v Leiria : 0-0

Now certain to finish 3rd of the Liga, Setubal loses steam and fails for the 6th consecutive time to win at home, with an uneventful draw (0-0) vs Leiria.

** May 11th, 2003 – Maritimo v Vitoria Setubal: 2-1

It’s an anonymous end of season for Os Guerreiros who logically lose out to Maritimo (1-2) for the first time in 2 seasons under Forbs, the Madeira hosts having dominated the game with 2 goals from a superb Gaucho (MoM). Marco Ferreira luckily put his side back on the scoreboard just before half-time (1-1), but on the 68’ Tonel was outpaced and brought down striker Jacques for a justified red-card, sealing the game. It is the 8th red-card received by Setubal this season (3 of which for the sole Eric Matoukou who has not played again since April 2nd) - such a bad record that it prompts the Portuguese Federação to fine the club £23k for bad behaviour.

RuiEsteves
25-09-14, 09:42 PM
Final standings: Sporting CP are crowned champions of Portugal for the 2nd season in a row, proving much too solid in the end for FC Porto. Naval, Paços and more surprisingly, Académica, are relegated to Secunda Liga.


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Improving from last season's 4th place, Vitoria Setubal finish 3rd of the Primeira Liga. It is the 4th time in the club's History that its final ranking is 3rd, and the 5th time it ends in the top3. The end result is once again heralded in Setubal and throughout Portugal as a formidable achievement by Tito Forbs, proof that his first season as head coach was not a lucky one-off. Nevertheless the coach is not fully satisfied. After a great first half of the season and superb run in the UEFA Cup (1/4 final), it all went pear-shaped in March after the spanking at the hands of Bologna 1909, a few of his players having let him and their team mates down.

Nevertheless, Tito has secured a 2nd back-to-back UEFA Cup qualification and has at least reached one objective: with only 23 goals conceded, Vitoria is the best defense of the Liga !

Fourfourtwo
25-09-14, 09:48 PM
Great to see this one back! Stick with it.

3rd place finish very respectable. Signings needed to push for title next year though - Sporting must have a formidable team...

RuiEsteves
25-09-14, 10:56 PM
- Sporting must have a formidable team...
Well they have Mario Jardel, with 51 goals in 50 games this season! formidable by Primeira Liga standards, yes for sure. On the European stage they managed to reach the Champions' Cup 2nd Group Phase but could not advance further...

Kingsley
26-09-14, 12:32 PM
Realy good to see you finish 3rd, but 21 points behind Sporting is a huge gap (was it not 11 last year ?). Big challenge to close that gap. The team kind of ran out of steam towards the end of the season, so maybe that needs to be looked at. Looking forward to seeing who comes in from your summer signings

RuiEsteves
26-09-14, 10:54 PM
Realy good to see you finish 3rd, but 21 points behind Sporting is a huge gap (was it not 11 last year ?). Big challenge to close that gap. The team kind of ran out of steam towards the end of the season, so maybe that needs to be looked at. Looking forward to seeing who comes in from your summer signings
You are absolutely correct, I was "only" 11pts behind Sporting last season while finishing 4th. Somehow this year's Primeira Liga was much less balanced, with Sporting, FC Porto and not far behind Setubal running comfortably the race until ~10 games before the end when my team ran out of steam (it was roughly at the same time as the routing in UEFA Cup quarter-finals vs Bologna).

I've chosen a defensive set-up and this is probably not helping, but I'm going to stick to it for gameplay reasons. Os Guerreiros have much improved in defense but have scored way too few goals to be a serious challenger. I've also had disciplinary problems which have plagued my end of season (the sole Eric Matoukou was red-carded thrice...).

More to come.

RuiEsteves
26-09-14, 11:30 PM
Here is the standard Starting XI for 2002/03, along with each player average rating.


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The irony is that the vilain of the season, Sandro, having turned against his team mates and club, is also the best Guerreiro with a 7.64 average rating, member of the Team of the Year of the Liga.

Another striking performance is that of keeper Marco Tabuas, 7.33 average rating and best goalie of the Primeira Liga. He has achieved beyond Tito's expectations and is rumoured to be the next captain if/when Hélio retires.

Finally the other hero is Senegalese striker Fary. With 28 goals (24 in the Liga) he finishes 2nd best scorer behind Mario Jardel, and with 10 MoM (9 in the Liga) he also secures the 2nd MoM spot behind the great Brazilian forward. He has sometimes lacked consistency, but all in all has more than compensated the departure of Rui Miguel.

On the downside, center-backs Tonel and Matoukou have shown their limits in the last part of the season with a terrible disciplinary record; and AM-C Marco Ferreira and Marajo have had a much more anonymous season that last year, the latter being now more than seriously challenged for his position by young rising star Cristiano Ronaldo. Finally, Luis Andrade has gone from outstanding to decent, which for sure had an impact in midfield.

RuiEsteves
26-09-14, 11:56 PM
Time for a full review of the squad. With a solid £11m treasury, Forbs can afford a few re-enforcements to his group during the summer. Let's start with goalkeepers.

- Marco Tabuas (26) / 46 apps, 2 MoM - member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year. An outstanding season for the Setubal-born keeper, who has been called up in the Portuguese Seleção squad and is being tipped as Forbs' future captain.

- Pedro Espinha (37) / 4 apps. The old international started the season as a sub, and never got a chance against Marco Tabuas. Will he agree to end his career at Vitoria as a sub?

- Hugo Pinheiro (22) / untested. Loaned-out for 10 games to Portimonense. No clear sign of improvement yet.

Hierarchy for next season is clear, no recruitement needed unless Pedro Espinha decides he wants a last challenge away from the club.

RuiEsteves
27-09-14, 12:15 AM
Defenders - Left

- Rodrigo (30) / 43 apps - 1 goal, 4 ass, 2 MoM. The Brazilian international had a solid season, a clear improvement from last year's performance at this position. There probably still is a margin of improvement for such a talented player.

- Carlos (30) / 8 apps - 2 goals, 1 MoM. Has accepted his sub status with humility, and did step-up when he was invited to. Still an asset.

No recruitement needed here, unless forced by long-term injury (lack of depth).


Defenders - Right

- Nélson Veiga (25) / 46 apps - 5 goals, 4 ass, 2 MoM. What a player. Faced with a tough competitor, he stepped up and was even better than last year, providing a non-negligeable offensive pack to the team. One of Forbs' favourites.

- Lassissi (24) / 26 apps - 2 goals, 1 ass. The Ivorian international started 18 games, either at D-R or at D-C, but failed to totally convince at either position. Too many cards collected. May mature during his second season in his new country.

- Ricardo Costa (22) / untested. Too much competition left no chance for the U21 international. Uncertain future.
- Estica (20) / unwanted, now transfer-listed.

No planned recruitement, unless a great opportunity arises.

Fourfourtwo
27-09-14, 10:32 PM
New centre backs needed by the looks of it... and Andrade should be getting a better average too...

RuiEsteves
29-09-14, 08:00 PM
Now on to what remains in the eyes of Forbs a problem area of the team :

Defenders – Central

- Tonel (23) / 45 app - 1 goal, 2 ass. A solid start of the season like the rest of the defense, but gradually lost steam. Too easily beaten against top-notch forwards. His red card in the very last match and the ensuing 3-games suspension, already put his starting spot under pressure.

- Matoukou (19) / 35 app - 1 MoM. The very young Cameroonian international impressed everyone up until the winter mercato. His abyssimal disciplinary record thereafter (3 red-cards !) has tarnished his season and owed him a stern warning from the coach. Will Tito trust a player who can ruin a crucial game because of his temper? Or should he give him more time to mature?...

- Hugo Costa (29) / 6 app. Little game time for the seasoned Portuguese who wishes to be transferred out. Tito will agree if the price is right.
- Pepe (20) / 4 app. The promising young Brazilian has talent and started the last 4 games of the season, proof of the trust Forbs puts in his future.
- Hugo (24) / unused. The Brazilian DC had a blank season after being a starter in 2001/02, and his contract finishing, left to Salgueiros for a meagre £80k. His club record will remain [Hugo: 34 app / 2 goals, 4 ass, 1 MoM].
- Carmo, Pilar / unwanted, still on transfer-list.

Tito was not going to wait too long to strengthen his central defense and an opportunity presented itself soon with a relegation clause being activated for £825k with French club FC Lorient for the recruitment of the “Senegalese rock”, 28-year old international Pape Malik Diop, who received a very fat signing bonus of £1m and was promised a starting position in next season starting XI :


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Another African in the squad, the 2nd Senegalese after Fary. He had all the attributes of the experienced, solid CB which Tito had been after for so long; it remained to be seen how he would adapt to a completely different environment and a new language…

RuiEsteves
30-09-14, 08:56 AM
The “engine room” of Os Guerreiros, as Forbs like to call it, had been a little less impressive than the preceding season.

Defensive Midfielders

- Luis Andrade (29) / 45 app – 2 ass, 2 MoM. After his amazing season in 2001/02, this year’s performance albeit solid, has been overall disappoiting. Perplexed, Forbs has no real explanation other than Sandro having taken a more prominent role in the midfield. Nevertheless Luis Andrade is to be trusted without a doubt and will keep the n°6 spot next season.

- Hélio (c) (33) / 46 app – 8 goals, 3 ass, 1 MoM. Another good season by the legendary skipper, who has stepped up in his role as a leader on various occasions this year, scoring 8 goals. He is not the flashiest player around, but his team-mates trust him and the fans love him. Tito knows he can rely on him, but is wondering whether at 34yr-old he will still be able to sustain the intensity of a full season. A difficult choice has to be made…

- Sandro (26) / 42 app – 3 goals, 9 ass, 5 MoM. Member of the Primeira Liga Team of the Year. The Setubal-born did step-up and produced an amazing season, much better than last, which owned him the title of Guerreiro of the Year. Yet he committed the indefensible when he turned against his team-mates and club at the beginning of spring when the results were going pear-shaped. He was immediately sanctioned, side-lined and transfer-listed – yet there were rumours that he had now changed his mind, wished to amend and stay at the club. Was this something Tito was contemplating? He knew some of the players wanted to see the back of Sandro and not suffer his arrogance in the future…

- Ednilson (20) / 25 app – 1 goal, 7 ass, 1 MoM. The U21 international started 11 games and continued to impress, now clearly being a challenger for one of the DMC starting slots.

- Bosingwa (20) / 12 app – 2 ass. The other U21 Portuguese/African player had been a little more quiet, but is a great asset as a sub.

- Paulo Teixeira (22) / 1 app. The other young option at DMC has now slipped to 3rd in the hierarchy of substitutes, somewhat unjustly some are arguing…

Was this time for a major change in this key area of play for Os Guerreiros? All three of Luis Andrade, Hélio and Sandro only had one year left on their contract and the latter was still undesired at the club, while Hélio’s age was catching up on him…

RuiEsteves
30-09-14, 09:06 AM
Attacking Midfielders

- Marco Ferreira (25) / 48 app – 11 goals, 13 ass, 4 MoM. While still very prolific both in goals and assists, the Portuguese playmaker had not quite replicated his 2001/02 season. His consistency was however key to Setubal’s attacking trio and he had the full confidence of the coach.

- Marajo (22) / 44 app – 11 goals, 5 ass, 1 MoM. The story was slightly different for Marajo who clearly had under-achieved and had been more than challenged in the 2nd part of the season by young rising star Cristiano Ronaldo. Was he going to fight back for his starting slot?

- Cristiano Ronaldo (18) / 34 app – 6 goals, 2 ass, 1 MoM. With 14 starts and 34 appearances in total, Ronaldo had become in the eyes of Tito an asset he could not reasonably leave on the bench any longer. At 18 yr-old he was gradually coming to maturity and was expected to fully reveal himself next season !

- Meyong (22) / 15 app – 2 ass. With only 1 start, the 22yr-old Camroonian international was becoming increasingly frustrated and wanted to be transferred. Tito, aware of his qualities both as AMC and SC, was hoping to keep him in the squad a little longer…
- Correia (22) / 1 app. Only 1 appearance for the Angolan international, who had too many shortcomings to really be in a position to contend for a starting slot – for the time being.

Talent was there but a fully matured C Ronaldo was now badly needed. Rumour had it that Almani Moreira was leaving Belgium on a Bosman; Tito dispatched his best scout Figueiredo for a lunch at a brasserie in Liège with the Portuguese/Guinea-Bissean forward and hours later the contract was inked :


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The paycheck was fat - £7k a week, the highest wage of the squad on par with Pape Diop - and Moreira had insisted for a £6m release clause to which Tito had reluctantly agreed...
It was more than enough in terms of squad depth for the AMC position for next season.

RuiEsteves
30-09-14, 09:09 AM
Strikers

- Fary (28) / 46 app – 28 goals, 6 ass, 10 MoM. 2nd striker of the Liga, 2nd in numbers of MoM, 28 goals in total : the recruitment of the Senegalese striker had been a great success. He had adapted very quickly to the playing style of Os Guerreiros and had soon replaced Rui Miguel in the hearts and minds – he was even voted Fan’s Player of the Year !

- Nando (29) / 8 app – 6 goals, 1 ass, 1 MoM. Even better than last season, the veteran from Guinea-Bissau had managed 6 goals in only 2 starts and 6 subs. He was a natural finisher and striker, a real option for Tito should Fary fail.

- Tiago Mota (22) / 3 app – 1 goal. Frustrated in the reserves and too seldom on the bench, Tiago Mota had nevertheless great talent which Tito knew all too well.
- João Paiva (20) / unused, despite huge improvements at training. A gem waiting to be uncovered…

With the league’s 2nd best scorer, 3 quality subs available (amongst which 2 great youngsters), plus Moreira and Meyong as an alternative if need be, there is really no need to strengthen the squad in that area.

RuiEsteves
30-09-14, 09:44 AM
Tito Forbs continues to revamp his central defense and seizes a unique opportunity with the relegation of Sunderland to the First Division: their Brazilian CB Emerson Thome suddenly decides he has had enough of England and signs with Vitoria for a cheap £675k transfer-fee (+£75k sign-on bonus). His salary is big at £6,750/w but he presents the invaluable advantage to also hold a Portuguese passport.


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With the 2 big signings in central defense, Forbs finally agrees to relase Hugo Costa for £900k to Beira-Mar. He is a solid defender but not quite enough to have secured a starting slot in Tito's XI. We wish him all the best in the newly-promoted northern side.

RuiEsteves
30-09-14, 09:54 AM
At the beginning of July the new training facilities which had been requested since the minute Tito took office, are finally delivered. That's a fantastic investment to the club's future of which the coach is particularly proud; he also hopes that soon Setual academy players will sign pro contracts in the first team (he's had none in 2 years...).

From then on, the inter-season mercato stalls. Tito is sitting on a fat £15m treasury he has accumulated through smart management, he has also increased the highest salary to £7k/w... and in spite of a direct UEFA Cup qualification, very few of the 220 players he has on his short-list are willing to even discuss a transfer. Moreover, he's reached his squad limit of 6 non-EU players in (Rodrigo, Matoukou, Pepe, Diop, Marajo and Nando); the latter is being reluctantly transfer-listed but the club receives almost no transfer offer over the summer.

It's all very quiet. Pedro Espinha, Hélio and Luis Andrade sign one additional year of contract. On Aug.16 a friendly is organized at Bonfim vs Secunda Liga's side Rio Ave - the outcome is a deserved (2-0) victory for Os Guerreiros in spite of a very shaky first half, Fary and Moreira score one each.

Time for action and the start of the Primeira Liga.

RuiEsteves
30-09-14, 11:56 AM
** August 23rd, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal v Varzim : 1-1

It’s always been tough and sometimes spectacular over the past 2 years vs Varizm (1W, 1D, 2L). Hélio is captain, Ednilson starts replacing Sandro who is not even on the bench. Upfront, Marco Ferreira and Moreira are AMC's. Thome and Diop are the new pair of CD's. The 1st half-hour is terrible, Varzim pushing through the wings towards the dangerous strikers Ramos and Pickeu. Marco Tabuas saves his side on 3 occasions, and on the 38’ the game changes when Mariano is red-carded for a head-butt !

Setubal then rushes forward and will dominate the 2nd half through and through. Keeper Botelho does wonders in the goals for the visitors, but he cannot even touch Fary’s (MoM) powerful header on the 83’ which sends Bonfim to heaven… only for 6’, until after a corner-kick conceded by a Marco Tabuas’ fumble, a 10-men Varzim side equalizes through Mendonça. Vitoria must share the points at home for the opener while being one-man up, it clearly is not the start of the season Forbs had dreamt about.

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This year Vitoria is directly qualified for Round 1 of the UEFA Cup thanks to its 3rd place in the Primeira Liga. Will also participate for Portugal: FC Porto (who have failed to qualify for the Champions Cup Group stage) and Benfica (4th last season). Last year Setubal, who had an amazing run all the way to the quarter-finals, got a difficult 1st round with Club Brugge KV; this time the draw is seemingly easier with Budapest side MTK Hungaria FC. Although former European powerhouse (Cup Winner's Cup final in 1964), MTK have never crossed path with Setubal before and it will be the first game ever against a Hungarian club.

RuiEsteves
30-09-14, 03:15 PM
** September 11th, 2003 - UEFA Cup, Round 1 - Vitoria Setubal v MTK Hungaria FC : 2-1

Europe is back to Bonfim! MTK don’t look too threatening but Os Guerreiros are not inspired in their game starts these days; they dominate but create few chances, when on the 26’ Marco Tabuas trips the Hungarian forward in the area -> converted penalty, (0-1). Luckily, no red-card. It is the midfield who will react, young Ednilson (MoM) pounding an equalizer minutes later (1-1). Although the better side, Setubal is checked at half-time (1-1). On the 56’ however, an inspired Luis Andrade shoots in the back of the net from 25 yards out and seals a deserved victory for the Portuguese. The return leg in Budapest will not be a foregone conclusion though !

** September 14th, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal v Salgueiros : 2-2

3 days later and it is the 3rd game at Bonfim in a row since the start of the season. This time Os Guerreiros start well but are beaten on a counter-attack in the 15’ on the sole chance by the visitors in this 1st half. (0-1), time to react. Rodrigo finds the post on a corner (49’) and it is once again an impressive Ednilson (MoM) who equalizes (56’), before being subbed by Bosingwa who scores his 1st ever goal for the club right after (58’, 2-1). However, with the exception of a very good Nélson Veiga, Setubal’s rear guard is shaky in particular Emerson Thome who is really struggling. They let Afonso Martins skip past 5 defenders (!!) on the 64’ for a (2-2). Marco Ferreira finds the crossbar at 75’, João Paiva gets his first ever appearance undeer the green and white jersey while Cristiano Ronaldo picks up an injury in the dying seconds (out for 3 weeks)… and it is another draw at home against an inferior side who was dominated all game long.

** September 21st, 2003 – FC Porto v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0

This time the scoreline really does not flatter Os Guerreiros who played a solid game at the Dragão. Vitor Baia (MoM) made no less than 3 decisive saves (!) in the opening minutes, while around the 50’ the referee forgot an obvious penalty for a foul on Fary. Composed and efficient in midfield, Setubal lost when at the 86’ Capucho nailed it in the side of the net from an angle. Vitoria is (2D, 1L) but Tito sees some improvement…

Kingsley
30-09-14, 07:44 PM
Lack luster start. Not keeping clean sheets is a problem if you are going to play defensively. Could be a long season if Tito can't sort out the defence.

RuiEsteves
01-10-14, 12:11 AM
Lack luster start. Not keeping clean sheets is a problem if you are going to play defensively. Could be a long season if Tito can't sort out the defence.
Indeed. Difficult to understand why, on paper Pape Diop and Emerson Thome look the real deal and the rest of the defense has not changed. Let's see if this was just bad luck.

RuiEsteves
01-10-14, 01:07 AM
** September 25th, 2003 - UEFA Cup, Round 1 - MTK Hungaria FC v Vitoria Setubal : 0-2

Setubal will not let any chance in Budapest to the weak Hungarians. The game is sealed in the 1st half with a superb long-range free-kick from Hélio, followed by a victorious header by Fary (MoM). Vitoria is through to the next round.

This time again the draw is much more favourable than last season (when we played Besiktas): Tito is relieved when the name of Macedonian side FC Belasica is drawn in Geneva. FC Porto are less fortunate and will play Glasgow Rangers !

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** September 29th, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal v Aves : 1-0

It's a must win at Bonfim against promoted side Aves. Os Guerreiros push and start very strong, Fary being denied a goal for off-side on the 7' and Ednilson denied a penalty on the 14'. The game is one-sided but the visitors hold on to their goal-less draw. Vitoria's defense is in control with the first class display from Emerson Thome (MoM). On the 69' an on-fire Luis Andrade scores the unique goal of the game, heading a corner-kick under the crossbar. João Paiva who has replaced an uninspired Fary, shines and finds the post on the 83'. Shiver through Bonfim when Luis Andrade is red-carded on the 88' for a foul on an Aves forward who was clear towards the goal, but the locals will hold on to their first victory in the Liga this season! Much needed relief, before visiting the reigning champions.

RuiEsteves
01-10-14, 02:18 AM
** October 1st, 2003 – Sporting CP v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0

Luis Andrade was out for 3 games and Sandro still punished on the bench, which was not ideal for a visit to the Alvalade against a full strength Sporting side. Vitoria started out well, creating chances in the first quarter - then gradually pressure mounted and the hosts finished the 1st half very strong. Marco Tabuas (MoM) saved the day but captain Hélio went in heavy-footed on a tackle right before half-time and was sent-off (3 games ban would ensue). 10 v 11 at the Alvalade, that was going to be tough; dominated but not crushed, Os Guerreiros would manage to hold on with a superb Pape Diop in defense shutting down the great Mario Jardel. What a great result this was.

** October 4th, 2003 – Beira-Mar v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2

It is now without both Hélio and Luis Andrade that Setubal play a 3rd game in only 6 days. Observers feel the team is starting to improve, new players having adapted. They pressurize and dominate Beira-Mar at home, and score on a corner-kick by Rodrigo (32'). Alas, Brazilian Zezinho shows his pace and equalizes immediately after (33', 1-1). The midfield plays well, but the attacking trio does not manage to convert the multipe chances - Marco Ferreira and Moreira being a little shy. Sandro makes his first appearance since last April, immediately brings a spark to the midfield and delivers a great pass to ex Beira-Mar hero Fary who fires the winning shot in the dying minute. It is a much needed, and deserved, away victory for Setubal.

RuiEsteves
01-10-14, 05:34 PM
** October 16th, 2003 - UEFA Cup, Round 2 - Vitoria Setubal v FC Belasica : 1-1

A terrible game from disinterested Guerreiros who concede a goal on an indirect free-kick on the 23'. Was it not for the amazing work rate of Nélson Veiga (MoM) who delivered a perfect crossing for C.Ronaldo's equalizer on the 79', it would have been a home defeat against Macedonians minnows. "Wake up, this is Bonfim, this is Setubal" shouted an enraged Tito Forbs at the end of the game to his sorry bunch of players...

** October 19th, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal v Gil Vicente : 2-0

Forbs' verbal blast was probably still in the players' mind as they delivered a near perfect game at home vs struggling Gil Vicente. Fary scored on his very first chance (5'), Ednilson doubled on the 56' while Cristiano Ronaldo (MoM) had an amazing day. Vitoria dominated from start to finish, it could (should) have been a much heavier score.

** October 26th, 2003

Time for a visit to the northern city of Braga. In confidence and on a roll, Os Guerreiros push hard and start well, C.Ronaldo scoring on the 15' from a great pass by young Paulo Teixeira (MoM). Up to the 29' when Moreira finds the woodwork on a great chance, the visitors dominate - but gradually the game will even out.


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Braga will create chances but fail to score, and the end game is again clearly dominated by Setubal who manage a deserved 2nd goal when Filipe deflects a header from Ednilson into his own nets. Vitoria are (4W, 1D) in the 5 last Liga games and have climbed up to 3rd place, 3 pts away from surprise leaders Vitoria Guimarães. Tito's patience could be paying off...

Kingsley
01-10-14, 06:13 PM
Hats off to you. Defence is looking very solid now. Work to do in Europe now.

Am I allowed to sat Come On Porto for the European game atleast :pray:

RuiEsteves
01-10-14, 06:48 PM
Am I allowed to sat Come On Porto for the European game atleast :pray:
God has heard your prayer, son :amen:


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5-0 vs Rangers on aggregate !!! how's that?

(are you a Porto fan, or do you hate Rangers? or both...)

RuiEsteves
01-10-14, 07:49 PM
** September 25th, 2003 - UEFA Cup, Round 2 - FC Belasica v Vitoria Setubal : 1-2

Not here, in Macedonia. Not in the 2nd Round. Europe was everything to Tito, last season's fantastic run was still in every Portuguese mind. This game had to be won and he motivated his Guerreiros so that they would fight a true warrior game in a cold (7°C) and wet night in the Balkans. The local fans hurled to the grids protecting the pitch when the lads came on...

It was a very different game from the insipid (1-1) at Bonfim. The Macedonians were fighting every posession and Vitoria had to work hard to control the game, which they eventually managed. They were rewarded when on the 40', Fary controlled and found the net. 44', Marco Tabuas barely had time to parry a shot when the ball came back in the area for the equalizing goal. (1-1) at half-time, (2-2) on aggregate. Setubal was on fire when the 2nd half started and C.Ronaldo outjumped everyone on the 49'... only to find the post. On the 58' the visitors were inches from scoring on a series of corner-kicks, and finally it was the outstanding Ednilson (MoM) who sealed the game with a blast through the wet grass (71'). There were still a few chances for the locals, but in the end Setubal was through (3-2) on aggregate. Phew. The qualification however came at a price: both Rodrigo and C.Ronaldo picked up injuries and would be out for a month.

FC Porto (vs Rangers) and Benfica (vs Hibs) also qualified, in style, against their Scottish opponents. This was Round 3. All eight teams 3rd placed in Gr.1 of the Champions' Cup were now re-injected into the UEFA Cup. There were huge names such as Liverpool, Napoli, Betis, Chelsea or Kaizerslautern. Forbs held his breath. The radio reporters in Portugal also. And Setubal would play against... Samsunspor. After Besiktas in Round 2 last season, it was again another Turkish club this time in Round 3. It would not be easy, but let's face it, it could have been much worse.

- FC Porto vs Aris Salonika
- Benfica vs Olympique Lyonnais
- Sporting CP was through to Gr.2 of the Champions' Cup

RuiEsteves
01-10-14, 08:31 PM
** November 2nd, 2003 - Vitoria Setubal v Belenenses : 2-1

Going towards the winter and in good shape, Vitoria had to confirm at home against a dangerous Belenses side. It all started out crazy with in the space of 4mns, a superb header from Fary (MoM) on the 11', a counter-attacking equalizer by Ricardo Jorge (13') and a brawl between players on the 15', during which young Paulo Teixeira was caught eye-balling an opponent, red-carded and subsequently suspended for... 7 games !!! (1-1) and a man down, this was going to be tough for Os Guerreiros. But they rallied and a stellar performance from their midfield, in particular young Bosingwa, allowed them to keep control of the game, dominate and eventually win when Fary doubled on the 63'! It had been tough, but winning in those conditions was a real trademark.

** November 9th, 2003

It was time for a trip to Estadio da Luz (without starters Rodrigo, C.Ronaldo and Luis Andrade) against a Benfica side against which Tito Forbs was yet to lose. It was going to turn out an amazing game of attacking football, both teams being very close to each other and giving blow for blow. On the 6', Moreira (MoM) scored from a distance his first ever goal for his new club, but Nuno Gomes nullified this lead a minute later with a superb cross-header. The Setubal defense suffered greatly on set pieces, and conceded another header from a corner by Argel (18'). But Vitoria reacted and the inevitable Fary pounded a header above the Lisboa keeper for the (2-2) on the 28'.


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There was going to be still plenty of chances in the 2nd half, with Moreira hitting the crossbar after a fumble by the keeper on the 63', while Marco Tabuas saved the day in the last 10' when Benfica gave it all they had. All in all, a spectacular and fair draw for both teams, and a great result on the road for Setubal although their defense had suffered greatly.

Kingsley
02-10-14, 12:02 PM
Thanks. I don't care about Porto, but any misery that can be piled on Rangers or Celtic (even a virtual Rangers or Celtic) makes me happy. 5-0 will do for me.

Samsunspor could have been a whole lot worse considering some of the other names involved. Certainly a winable tie based on your current form. How are you doing in the league, even without CR7 (did you give him squad number 7 ?) Rodrigo and Teixeira you are not loosing many and you have certainly had good results against the teams you need to compete with.

RuiEsteves
02-10-14, 03:57 PM
Thanks. I don't care about Porto, but any misery that can be piled on Rangers or Celtic (even a virtual Rangers or Celtic) makes me happy. 5-0 will do for me.

So who do you support? Hibs? Aberdeen? P Thistle? I read your story about Chic Charnley... what a character he was. Reminds a bit of Eric Cantona - except he eventually settled for a long time in a club.



Samsunspor could have been a whole lot worse considering some of the other names involved. Certainly a winable tie based on your current form. How are you doing in the league, even without CR7 (did you give him squad number 7 ?) Rodrigo and Teixeira you are not loosing many and you have certainly had good results against the teams you need to compete with.

CR7 has n°11 as right-sided AMC. I will consider giving him n°7 at some point though ;-) Neither Sporting CP nor FC Porto had that great of a start really, so we're more or less tied, behind Guimarães. I feel I have finally sorted out the CB with Thome and Diop who are very solid. It is my attacking trio that is not yet outstanding - Fary will soon be 29 and only C.Ronaldo really has something special which is now developping fast. I still score too few goals. I've tried João Paiva but although very promising, he is not quite there yet.

I may be able to improve the squad at winter mercato.

RuiEsteves
02-10-14, 05:45 PM
- Nov.16 / Taça Rnd.4 - Bragança v Vitoria Setubal : 0-4
A walk in the park for Setubal with goals from Marco Ferreira, Ednilson (2, MoM) and Moreira.


- Nov.20 / UEFA CUP Rnd.3 - Vitoria Setubal v Samsunspor : 2-1
Record home crowd of 15,200 in Bonfim. Guerreiros start spendidly with goals by a superb Ednilson (MoM) and Marco Ferreira. The Turks will react after half-time and score a crucial goal. Vitoria dominate the last half-hour hitting the post and crossbar, but fail to score a 3rd. Although the better side tonight, Tito's boys will be in danger for the return leg in Anatolia.


- Nov.23 / Pr.Liga - Leira v Vitoria Setubal : 2-1
Guerreiros start well against a solid Leiria side this season (#2nd), dominate but concede a goal on the very 1st attack from the hosts, by Douala (MoM). Setubal will react through Moreira before half-time and equalize, but miss several chances in the 2nd half. Renato scores a 2nd goal for Leiria on a corner at 70' and this seals the game and a very harsh defeat for Setubal. It's only the 2nd loss this season, after the defeat away at FC Porto.


- Dec.1 / Pr.Liga - Vitoria Setubal v Vitoria Guimarães : 1-1
Vitoria receive their northern rival and surprise leader of the Primeira Liga. Like in Leiria, Os Guerreiros start well and dominate with Fary inches from scoring around the 20'; but on their first incursion, the visitors score on a Lixa header (24'). A goal is refused to Moreira for an off-side just before half-time, and helped by a dominant midfield led by Ednilson, Setubal will dominate the 2nd half through and through. On the 65' Fary volleys the ball on the crossbar, and eventually Moreira (MoM) equalizes on the 71'. It is once again a disapppointing and underserved result for the club against a direct rival. Tito's boys now sit 5th of the Liga, losing ground on the leaders (-6pts).

kuy
03-10-14, 01:55 PM
Looks like you have some real quality in the squad now, hope you can get into the Champions League this season!

Kingsley
03-10-14, 02:33 PM
So who do you support? Hibs? Aberdeen? P Thistle? I read your story about Chic Charnley... what a character he was. Reminds a bit of Eric Cantona - except he eventually settled for a long time in a club.

I'm Thistle till I die ! (or they do, which maybe first considering the shocking state of Scottish football finances)

Some good results there. Nothing much in it at this stage. It could be your season.

RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:13 PM
@kuy, @TheEejit - thanks. Let's just say something very unfortunate happened in the game, which I found out only later. I will post a lot of updates but it won't be nice...

RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:19 PM
Dec.4 / UEFA Cup Rnd.3 – Samsunspor v Vitoria Setubal : 0-0
Os Guerreiros are confident they are solid enough to withstand Samsunspor pressure on this cold and wet return leg. They will in fact control the game from start to finish, creating multiple chances all parried by the Turkish keeper Fevzi (MoM). Without being really threatened, Vitoria are through to Round 4, (2-1) on aggregate !

It’s a prisine record for the club against Turkish sides so far:
- UEFA Cup 2003 – Round 2 – Besisktas (2-0, 1-1)
- UEFA Cup 2004 – Round 3 – Samsunspor (2-1, 0-0)

It’s time for the draw of the last 16 in Geneva, for Round 4 in March. FC Porto also qualified, but Benfica was ousted by French side Lyon. There are big names about, and both Tito and FC Porto’s coach Nelo Vingada hold their breath… the draw goes on, all clubs being picked one by one. There are only two sides left in the pot… Tito Forbs and Nelo Vingada look at each other in disbelief… that’s right, Setubal and FC Porto will clash in the next round! It will be the first time for Vitoria to play a fellow Portuguese club in its European history. Forbs is (2W, 3L) vs Porto, so it will be tough.


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RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:23 PM
Dec.7 / Pr.Liga – Farense v Vitoria Setubal : 0-1
There’s no easy game in the Liga. Vitoria start well, Fary scoring on the 2’ following an unbelievable fumble by keeper Bossio. They seem to be in control of the game for a while, but Farense will put more and more pressure. The solid Guerreiro defense, with a great Emerson Thome (MoM), will preserve a precious away victory in spite of Rodrigo’s red-card on the 83’ for a harsh tackle, which will earn the Brazilian a 3-games ban.


Dec.13 / Pr.Liga – Vitoria Setubal v Maritimo : 1-0
Cristiano Ronaldo is back and scores the only goal of the game after a great solo run on the 6’. Setubal will suffer against a good Funchal side and their right-back Lino (MoM), always a threat. Emerson Thome in defense and Bosingwa in midfield, deliver solid performances and although unspirited, it is the 2nd win a row for Vitoria in the Primeira Liga.

RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:30 PM
Transfer market re-opens on Dec.15.

Setubal-born and emblematic midfielder Sandro (Mendes) leaves the club. With only 6 months left on his contract, Santa Clara get the 26yr-old for only £400k. After an amazing 2002/03 season in which he was named in the Pr.Liga Team of the Year and also Best Setubal Player 02/03, he never regained the trust of Tito Forbs following his public outburst. Several of his team mates (Rodrigo, Marajo) were annoyed at him being around.


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Defender Ricardo Costa (22) is also transferred-out for £250k to Bragança, 2-yr after his £70k recruitement by Forbs, having never fulfilled the promises the coach then saw in him. He played a total of 11 games under Setubal colours.

The coach wishes to build for the future and he recruits 2 very young Portuguese prospects in attack:
- Hélder Mario (17) – AM/F-C, £22k from Paços de Ferreira, at £525/w
- César Silva (17) – F-L/C, £24k from Gil Vicente, at £240/w

Tito Forbs is frustrated at not being able to invest into superior players that would integrate his starting XI. Yes he is rich with strikers; Fary is having a good season but nothing like last year, and both Tiago Mota and João Paiva are not there yet. Brazilian/Portuguese striker Pena, 29 yr-old, is benched at FC Porto. His striking quality are without doubt; Tito starts negotiations, they are tough, but eventually he agres on a £2.8k/w wage + £425k sign-on bonus and a £3m release clause in his contract, sealed with a £1.8m transfer fee to FC Porto. A big investment, Tito hopes, which will boost the team’s attacking capabilities.


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RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:38 PM
Dec.20 / Pr.Liga – Moreirense v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1
Os Guerreiros struggle once again in the Liga, this time against the last in the table. Moreirense look dangerous and Setubal uninspired, until Moreira goes past 2 players and fires a superb goal on the 58’. But the equalizer by Rui Mendez 10’ later is entirely deserved.

It is the end of the year and a 2 weeks Christmas break in the championship. Vitoria have had a feeble start and overal an average first half of season with (7W, 6D, 2L); the attack is apathic with only 19 goals in 15 games, the defense at 12 goals conceded is the best of the Liga. Tito is concerned with this 6th place, an under-par performance compared with the last 2 previous seasons and already -7pts and -5pts behind respectively, Sporting CP and FC Porto.


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Still unable to recruit any non-EU players, nor to attract any first class DMC, Tito uses his European network and decides to take on loan for 6m from Celtic Glasgow, carrying 50% of the £700k/w wage, young Portuguese midfielder Bruno Melo.


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Forbs has a policy not to retain players who either wish to go, or are wasting their time and potential at the club. Portugal U21 international Tonel is one of them. Starter for Setubal in 2001/02 and 2002/03 as D-C, he has gradually fallen in the hierarchy behind Diop, Thome and even Matoukou. Although very talented, he did not offer enough defensive robustness to the coach who could not refuse the £2m bid from Belenenses. He transfers-out, 2 years only after having acquired him from FC Porto for £1.7m. We wish him all the best.


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RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:41 PM
Jan.5 / Pr.Liga – Vitoria Setubal v Santa Clara : 2-0
Fired up and re-enforced with Brazilian Pena and midfielder Bruno Melo (on loan), Os Guerreiros start well the year 2004 which will be special for Portugal as it hosts the EURO championship in June. C.Ronaldo is quick to score (10’) after a superb play by Nélson Veiga (MoM); and at the hour, Bruno Melo delivers a superb pass for the 1st goal of new star Pena. It was easy until then, but the end game belongs to the Açorans who hit the woodwork and put tremendous pressure on Marco Tabuas.

Forbs’ shopping spree continues before the closure of the transfer window. He has tons of cash, 3 competitions to play and considers he is still under-staffed in midfield. The Brazilian/Portuguese DMC Binho had greatly impressed him in the game at Moreirense. A true warrior for the n°6 position alongside Luis Andrade. The £150k release clause is activated and he is not hard to convince at £925k/w.


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RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:46 PM
Jan.11 / Taça Rnd.5 – Vitoria Setubal v Maritimo : 0-1 (e.t.)
Maritimo is a tough team to play so this was not at all a good draw for a Cup Round 5. Conditions are wet, rain is pouring on Bonfim. Os Guerreiros start well, combine beautifully and Pena smashes the ball on the post early in the game. On the 38’, Forbs’ left-back Rodrigo ruins it with yet again, a two-footed tackle for which he is shown the door. Between personal problems, injuries and 2 consecutive red-cards, the season is turning into a nightmare for the 30-yr old Brazilian. Vitoria will resist but it’s from then on a very tight game. Substitutions are made, it’s extra time and with 7’ to go on a deadly counter-attack, Gaucho’s header eliminates the hosts from the Portuguese Taça. It is a huge disappointment for Tito who counted on a great run this season. Discipline has again let down his side.


Tito summons the ex-Brazilian international in his office: “you’re fined 2 weeks and transfer-listed. I just can’t have any of this in my club, not now, not at any time. You’re out”. The grown-up Brazilian who once wore the colours of the Seleção back home, burst into tears; his personal life has taken a toll on his career and he’s now facing the consequences.

Tito opens his cheque book and convinces Portugal B international Carlos Fernandes to join, for a transfer fee to Farense of £1.2m and a wage of £1.8k/w. The club’s had ad an eye on him for a while, Bruno Basto from Bordeaux was another candidate but this deal was much more straightforward.


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It’s really been a crazy winter mercato for the southern Portuguese club with no less than 5 recruits, 1 in-coming loan and 3 departures. Time to reap the fruits now.

Rodrigo is finally sent packing and goes back to Brazil for a transfer-fee of £1m. He had cost £1.7m a year and half ago, during which he had one good season, playing 58 games but collecting 3 red-cards and having a mental meltdown those last few months. A sour experience, but one Tito could hardly predict. One of his very first recruiting (semi-)failure.

RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:52 PM
Jan.16 / Pr.Liga – Boavista v Vitoria Setubal : 2-1
The offensive firepower of Boavista is too much for Setubal’s defense with a great Antonio Semedo and a superb Elpidio Silva (2 goals, MoM) who hit the post once and was denied another for dubious off-side. Pena did level the score after half-time with a splendid header and in spite of the push by the visitors in the last 10’ which could have got them another goal, it is the 2nd defeat in a row only this time, it is a fair one.


Jan.25 / Pr.Liga – Salgueiros v Vitoria Setubal : 1-0
Any serious hope in the Primeira Liga is now gone for Vitoria, Forbs’ side suffering its 3rd defeat in a row ie the worst spell since the coach took office. Some voices within the club are starting to speak out: “he is too dictatorial / there’s been too many transfers and turn-over in the 1st team / he does not trust his key players anymore / etc…”. After only 9’ captain Marco Tabuas walked off, injured. 38yr-old veteran Pedro Espinha actually did really well in spite of Salgueiros’ domination, but conceded a goal on the very last corner-kick 2’ into injury time. Poor form, poor luck.


Bad news again, just ahead of the game v champions and arch-rivals Sporting CP at Bonfim: Pape Malik Diop picks up an injury for one month and… the African Nations Cup starts ! Fary, Lassissi, Matoukou, Meyong and Correia (no less) will all be out of action for Setubal during 3 to 5 weeks!


Feb.1 / Pr.Liga – Vitoria Setubal v Sporting : 0-1
There’s no miracle against a much superior Sporting side. Young kid Hugo Pinheiro makes his debut and impresses in the first minutes with a series of great saves: he’s got talent! Setubal are brave and make Tito proud, but they will almost get no chance at goal. Bruno Melo (MoM) shows his class in midfield but it is not enough to prevent a goal from Källstrom on the 74’. With a little luck Vitoria may have avoided its 4th defeat in a row, alas those are sorry times for the coach and his players; as if things were not bad enough, Nélson Veiga (2 weeks) and Luis Andrade (10d) pick-up injuries. Tito is a wise man. He knows he should whether the storm and focus on each game one by one. Vitoria is sitting 7th of the Liga and the 3rd spot is out of reach already (-10pts). It’s time to build and be patient.


Feb.8 / Pr.Liga – Aves v Vitoria Setubal : 1-1
You know you’re in trouble when an away draw against the 14th of the table feels like you’ve just won the national cup. Tension was immense when both teams entered the field; Ednilson was skipper in the absence of Marco Tabuas (injured) and Hélio (benched), and the new appointed captain had to play left-back while Nélson Veiga (injury) and Lassissi (CAN) were out. For a neutral the game was great. It started slow but an amazing free-kick from Lucas left Pinheiro rooted on the spot. Vitoria was going to battle hard, going from one goal to the other. Pena (MoM) was a class above and he lifted the spirit of his side, equalizing with a splendid header just before half-time. At least the series of defeat was over, but next up in Bonfim was FC Porto !!!

RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:54 PM
/ Note to readers : there was no way I had suddenly become “that” bad. Something was wrong, I was having so few chances at goal and my AMC (C.Ronaldo, Moreira, Marco Ferreira) were being totally gash with rankings of either 5 or 6 every game. I finally found out why. On my default tactic I had the “Men Behind Ball” on “Yes”. I think I remember sometime in the winter mercato, noticing that, when I was not in game, there was a little * next to my tactics name. I thought this was not normal, and maybe due to the change in captains, so I saved that new tactic to remove the *. I must have inadvertently hit on the Men Behind Ball at some point and then I saved it under my standard tactic. I must have played at least 7 or 8 games with the bus parked trying only to defend. So this season is a little bit spoiled – let’s say that since Christmas, well a lot of things happened that should have not. I had no save game going back, so I have just carried on and will try to salvage what can be until the end of the season. /

RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 04:59 PM
Feb.13 / Pr.Liga – Vitoria Setubal v FC Porto : 2-1
It is as if suddeny, some sort of weight had been removed from the shoulders of Guerreiros. A liberation. /** in fact, it was the “Men Behind Ball behind being turned back to “No” **/. Right from the start they took it to FC Porto, who were battling for the title as well as Setubal's opponents in UEFA Cup in a few weeks. Brazilian striker Pena (MoM) showed all his incredible class when he stunned Porto’s defense all by himself on the 8’. FC Porto was not short on talent neither and created plenty of chances, often parried by Marco Tabuas except that Helder Postiga’s header on the 23' (1-1). Bonfim knew something was happening and cheered for their Guerreiros, with warrior Binho having a great game in midfield, and it was Pena who managed to seal the game in the 2nd half. Setubal were back! it was the first victory of one of Os Tres Grandes since... ages


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kuy
03-10-14, 05:02 PM
Pena looks good but you have lots of strength in attack, and I'm not hugely convinced by Binha or Carlos Fernandes, so I have to say that Bruno Melo is your best capture of the transfer window, even if he is on loan! :ok:

RuiEsteves
03-10-14, 05:06 PM
Pena looks good but you have lots of strength in attack, and I'm not hugely convinced by Binha or Carlos Fernandes, so I have to say that Bruno Melo is your best capture of the transfer window, even if he is on loan! :ok:
I guess! I really struggled to get my hand on a descent DM-C and Binho fits well in the "warrior-type which Tito Forbs so much likes. And I needed a left-back really quickly after I has sent Rodrigo packing to Brazil.

Have you seen what happened which probably ruined my season? just realized that before the FC Porto game... had suddenly become utter gash without any plausible explanation. Was relieved that there was an obvious one in the end !

kuy
03-10-14, 05:09 PM
/ Note to readers : there was no way I had suddenly become “that” bad. Something was wrong, I was having so few chances at goal and my AMC (C.Ronaldo, Moreira, Marco Ferreira) were being totally gash with rankings of either 5 or 6 every game. I finally found out why. On my default tactic I had the “Men Behind Ball” on “Yes”. I think I remember sometime in the winter mercato, noticing that, when I was not in game, there was a little * next to my tactics name. I thought this was not normal, and maybe due to the change in captains, so I saved that new tactic to remove the *. I must have inadvertently hit on the Men Behind Ball at some point and then I saved it under my standard tactic. I must have played at least 7 or 8 games with the bus parked trying only to defend. So this season is a little bit spoiled – let’s say that since Christmas, well a lot of things happened that should have not. I had no save game going back, so I have just carried on and will try to salvage what can be until the end of the season. /

Bad luck - now go out and make up for it in the rest of the season! :ok:

Kingsley
03-10-14, 07:41 PM
I think that Tito would probably call that a erro crasso

I think that all of the signings look decent on paper, certainly that window has improved the overall squad. Pena looks decent and should score a few.

RuiEsteves
04-10-14, 09:52 AM
Feb.23 / Pr.Liga – Varzim v Vitoria Setubal: 1-1
Considering how difficult it can be to play at Varzim, the 1st half of Os Guerreiros is a great relief. Some great combinations abound between the attacking trio, and it is only logic if an excellent Pena scores on the 37’. The hosts do have firepower upfront and will react, equalizing on a free-kick on the 53’. The end game is a continuous assault on Pedro Roma’s (MoM) goal, but the veteran keeper is having an incredible day and will simply parry everything, even what looked like obvious goals. Frustrating result, but the content is re-assuring.


Feb.27 / Pr.Liga – Vitoria Setubal v Beira-Mar : 2-0
There’s no real contest here and Vitoria will deliver an impeccable 1st half with a great animation between midfield and attack; C.Ronaldo (MoM) is on fire and scores a double. The 2nd half is a little more balanced although the final score-line flatters the visitors. Only bad news: Emerson Thome picks a knock and will probably miss out on the first leg of the UEFA Cup at the Dragão, which is the next game in 6 days.


All African players selected with their respective nations are now back, including young Eric Matoukou who has always been a starter in the back for Cameroon and has at only 20yr-old, played (and lost) the final of the CAN. A lot of experience which should help him develop even faster.

RuiEsteves
04-10-14, 12:24 PM
- Mar.4 / UEFA CUP Rnd.4 (leg1) - FC Porto v Vitoria Setubal : 1-4
Vitoria went into this crucial game without Emerson Thome (injured) and Bruno Melo (not qualified) while FC Porto had a full squad. Nobody was quite prepared for what happened next, and the Dragão will surely remember this for decades. Setubal had been struggling in a very average season so far, ranked only 6th in the Primeira Liga, while Porto was on fire battling for the title and had demolished Glasgow Rangers (5-0 on aggregate) in the preceding Round. Os Guerreiros blasted out like mad men in front of the 32k hostile crowd, pressed their opponents to their throats and on a corner on the 7', Ednilson cracked the opener. Vitoria had all the posession and crushed their opponents in the 1st half, scoring again when an outstanding Pena (MoM) poundered a shot out of reach of Vitor Baia. A big silence invaded the Dragão, and after half-time it was clear that Porto had decided to attack less and be more cautious - at home! ... and still, they were punished again by a header from Pena on the 51', and it turned into a full humiliation when C.Ronaldo scored a 4th on a corner on 73'. The crowd first in disbelief, turned against their side and Dario's late goal on a corner changed nothing.

(1-4) at Porto, for a key game like this, there had only really been one team on the pitch tonight - this was so far the most remarkable feat of Vitoria Setubal since Forbs' took control of the team in July 2001. It was safe to say that qualification for the quarters was now well under way.


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Note: Porto's keeper Vitor Bahia, despite conceding 4 goals, received a mark of 9 for that game... says all about Setubal complete domination.

kuy
04-10-14, 02:40 PM
Wow, great result!

Kingsley
04-10-14, 09:49 PM
That is more like it. May hav lost a bit of ground in the chase for the league, but after that result there could be a faint smell of European silver polish in the air.

RuiEsteves
10-10-14, 09:07 PM
Mar.7 / Pr.Liga – Belenenses v Vitoria Setubal: 0-2
It’s a now transfigured Vitoria side which easily wins at the Restelo, dominating and relying on the power of the incredible Pena (MoM) who scores twice again, to seal the game. The Brazilian striker has now scored an amazing 10 goals in only 12 games for Setubal.


Mar.11 / UEFA CUP Rnd.4 (leg2) - Vitoria Setubal v FC Porto : 1-0
Having crushed the northern giants (4-1) at the Dragão for the 1st leg in a game which will remain in the club’s legend, Os Guerreiros are confident when they host FC Porto for the return. This time, the game is much more balanced and Porto will have several chances. Both teams are close to each other and a draw seems logical when C.Ronaldo rubs salt in the wounds of the visitors with a late goal (80’), giving a back-to-back victory and aggregate (5-1) qualification of Setubal for the UEFA Cup quarter-finals !


Setubal reaches this level of the UEFA Cup for the 5th time in its history after 1969 (v Newcastle), 1971 (v Leeds), 1973 (v Tottenham), 1974 (v Stuttgart) and 2003, having on all 5 occasions failed to advance further – and crashed (0-5) on aggregate last year vs the Italians of Bologna. It is another amazing achievement from Tito Forbs, but this time the coach does not intend to stop there. The other 7 clubs which have qualified actually come from… 7 different nations, which is quite unusual. They are:

- Southampton, the solid English side has just eliminated Kaiserslautern
- Siena, Italian outsiders who have gone through on penalties vs Napoli
- Lyon, the French have impressed vs Benfica in the 3nd Round
- Galatasaray, the Turkish powerhouse probably amongst favourites
- Dinamo Kiev, the talented Ukrainians announced by some as the wild card
- Mallorca, a thriving force in the Spanish Liga who have beaten both Liverpool and Fulham
- NAC, the Dutch from Breda being one of the minnows of this quarter-final round.

Who will it be? Most pundits comment on a very open and balanced final plateau, deprived of any European superpower. What would be the worst / the best draws for Os Guerreiros? I’ll let the readers conjecturate before killing the suspense…

kuy
10-10-14, 09:38 PM
Lyon and Gala have to be the favourites there - NAC or Siena probably the weakest. I reckon you'll get Mallorca!

ZanSnake
10-10-14, 11:16 PM
I would aim for the middle ground in Dinamo and Southampton, and then hope that one of the 'minnows' knocks out of the large ones.