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Thread: The Return of the Prodigal Sons

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    Noooooooooooooooooo - TEN matches - bit harsh that but you can't go around punching people in the face!

    Do you warn/fine hime?

    Zwolle packing the midfield but you'd be looking for 3 points here

    Not sure it's worth worrying about PSV and Ajax, just go about your business and see where it takes you while you re-build squad

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    I agree. Ajax and PSV are not you competition (for now). See where you are in January before you aim to challenge them.

    It's a game you should win with a full squad, but with so many out, perhaps a drew would not be a bad result. They will be wanting to bounce back after that 5-1 against Ajax
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    Crikey, hope van Persie can hold out for those games!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redknapp69 View Post
    Noooooooooooooooooo - TEN matches - bit harsh that but you can't go around punching people in the face!

    Do you warn/fine hime?
    He will probably becomes captain in a few days. Sungo loves the diva's. He might just have found his new Di Bari here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redknapp69 View Post
    Noooooooooooooooooo - TEN matches - bit harsh that but you can't go around punching people in the face!

    Do you warn/fine hime?

    Zwolle packing the midfield but you'd be looking for 3 points here

    Not sure it's worth worrying about PSV and Ajax, just go about your business and see where it takes you while you re-build squad
    Yes, I told him that if he wants to become a regular first team player, he can't go around doing that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsley View Post
    I agree. Ajax and PSV are not you competition (for now). See where you are in January before you aim to challenge them.

    It's a game you should win with a full squad, but with so many out, perhaps a drew would not be a bad result. They will be wanting to bounce back after that 5-1 against Ajax
    I take your point, but Feyenoord is always compared with Ajax and Feyenoord.

    In 2016 there was a huge gap between PSV (84 points) and Ajax (82 points) and Feyenoord (63 points).
    In 2017 Gio won the title with Feyenoord, which was a miracle according to Van Hanegem in a very recent article. We had 82 points, Ajax had 81 points and PSV had 76 points.
    In 2018 we dropped to fourth place (with 66 points) with PSV (83 points) and Ajax (79 points) and AZ (71 points) above us.

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    Van Persie nets another brace

    We won our second Eredivisie match and our first away game of the season and just like against AZ it was Robin van Persie who netted a brace!

    So despite his age it is already evident that - as long he remains fit - Van Persie will be the one to make the difference this season!



    It did not take him long to score, either. With just fourteen minutes on the clock Robin van Persie dribbled clear of Kenneth Paal. Van Persie was tracked by Paal as he came forward and showed Leemans a clean set of heels before hitting a fierce shot which left the goalkeeper helpless.

    Immediately after that opener Ayoub was so unfortunate as to pick up an injury on his debut and so we had to bring on Toornstra after all.

    We were the better team, but one goal is not enough. However, early in the second half it was again Van Persie who found the net with the assist from Larsson, who incidentally scored the third goal himself with Van Persie providing the assist!

    A late consolation goal was scored by Flemming who lofted the ball nicely over Vermeer.

    Now perhaps it's exactly because Vente has been banned for eleven matches that our lads played so well to-day, who can tell? But it was a brilliant team performance, although it needs to be added that Van Persie once again showed that he is in a class of his own!
    Spoiler!




    And then the news came that we have drawn Real Betis Balompié, SAD, more commonly referred to as Real Betis or just Betis in the European League Second Round. Not an easy draw, but it's a very exciting one!



    And a quick look at our list of fixtures shows that by the end of September we should know a lot more about where we stand. The two games against Betis and the Eredivisie game against PSV in Eindhoven will be a real test for our team.



    But first there's the international break...

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    Betis will be a handfull, good that we're playing away first!

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    RvP lasted 90 minutes which is good, but will he be able to do that twice per week ?
    How long is Ayoub out for and will you be calling up from the reserves ?

    Good win away from home and you now have a position to build on.

    Betis will not be easy, but it is a winnable game.
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    A very solid win! I thought you would have taken van Persie off after the third goal to protect him!

    Tough draw in Europe but potential chance to boost club coffers and raise your reps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsley View Post
    RvP lasted 90 minutes which is good, but will he be able to do that twice per week ?
    How long is Ayoub out for and will you be calling up from the reserves ?

    Good win away from home and you now have a position to build on.

    Betis will not be easy, but it is a winnable game.
    Van Persie will have a two-week break now, but obviously he can't play 90 minutes twice a week. So we'll have to come up with some kind of solution for the two or three months that we have to play without Jørgensen, our main striker, and without Vente, our talented youth player.

    As to Ayoub, he should be back from his injury after the international break. He is only playing so we can see if he is better than Toornstra or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    A very solid win! I thought you would have taken van Persie off after the third goal to protect him!
    Perhaps that would have been good. It was both a risk and a test to see how fit he actually is.

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    Battered 'em!

    RVP just needs guys around him todo the running - he can then focus on sticking the ball in the onion bag which we all know he can do

    Could be a sticky draw in Europe - you'd hope for more of a "minnow" this early but you SHOULD come through it

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    Dylan Vente

    Obviously a lot has been written lately about Dylan Vente's red card and the subsequent eleven-match ban, but there is a whole lot more to be said about our talented young striker.

    Giovanni van Bronckhorst is a keen admirer of Dylan Vente and he actually does not seem to take his misconduct too seriously.



    Arno Philips, on the other hand, strongly believes that Vente is too young to handle the pressure of first-team football - and he may have a point there.



    Now while Vente has been banned for first-team games he did get an opportunity to play for the Netherlands Under 21 last night and he played very well indeed! Obviously the youngster is keen to improve himself and focus on football again!




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    Vente has already proven to be unsportive and unprofessional. How the hell did he decide to punch young poor Tom van de Looi in the face? And even worse denied it afterwards! 10 matches is not enough for this prick! If it was me he was at the transferlist already.

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    Dylan Vente is a spirited professional with bags of talent. He is a jewel for the club and has shown he is willing to do what it takes to win.

    If it was me I'd give him a ten year contract extention. And a car. And anger management classes maybe.

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    Getting ready for Heracles

    Our Reserves, with Dylan Vente and Crysencio Summerville as strikers, defeated Heracles. However, the goals were scored by Orkun Kökçü and Luis Sinisterra, who both played exceptionally well. We would seem to have some very talented young players!



    Now in the Eredivisie Ajax had remarkably little difficulty with Vitesse. PSV had already beaten them 3-1 in Eindhoven but Ajax literally demolished them in a spectacular nine-goal thriller in Arnhem! And by the way, all nine goals were scored by different players.



    PSV also won their game with Luuk de Jong scoring twice. All of the goals were scored in the first half. It's already becoming pretty obvious that "the Big Two" are dominating the Eredivisie again this season.



    As for us, we will play Heracles at home with Ayoub back as central midfielder and Malacia as left defender. This time Van Persie might not be playing the full ninety minutes as we will need him to be fit for our midweek European game. So if we can decide the game early on El Hankouri will definitely get some game time.



    Heracles will not come to only defend, though. In fact, they have just announced that will play an attractive attacking formation against us.



    Now since this is a home game for us we should be able to defeat Heracles just before we travel to Spain to face Real Betis in the Europa League. We just need to avoid further injuries, though.

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    Any win will do.
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    Already thinking about the European game - all eyes must be on Heracles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redknapp69 View Post
    Already thinking about the European game - all eyes must be on Heracles!
    European football is so important for our fans, but we will do all we can to focus on Heracles now.

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    Van Persie late goal gives Feyenoord hard-fought win

    Well, it was much more difficult than we had anticipated and Van Persie had to play the full ninety minutes but in the end it was worth it!

    Although, we may just pay the price when we play our midweek European game against Betis...



    Initially things looked good for us and we seemed to be heading for a regular win when we scored within half an hour. Steven Berghuis hit a hopeful looking shot and although Blaswich managed to push the ball away the rebound fell to Berghuis who smashed in low and this time our right winger scored!

    But one goal is not enough and that next goal did not come. And to make matters worse, just six minutes into the second half Kuwas hit a savage right-footed shot and he found the net!

    It was clear that we could not give Van Persie rest until the match was decided but for the longest time it seemed doubtful that either team would score. It was just one of those days.

    Then, with 81 minutes on the clock Droste squared the ball from the right and Dalmau had a great opportunity and he found the back of the net! Fortunately it was ruled out, because Leemhuis had strayed offside but they certainly silenced the crowd for a minute or so.

    A draw seemed inevitable now, until Clasie looked for the pass left to Vilhena who hit the ball towards Van Persie in the area. Van Persie got up to head at goal and to the crowd's delight he found the net!

    So it ended up being a hard-fought win over Heracles with Van Persie netting the winner for us. We still win our games, but it doesn't come easily. And it makes you wonder how long Van Persie can continue delivering goals and assists..
    Spoiler!

    But a win is a win and we are still undefeated as we travel to Spain to play Real Betis in our first European game of the season!!



    Now we may have Robin van Persie (35) but Real Betis have David Villa (36) who left Major League Soccer team New York City to play for a Spanish club again!

    Betis also signed Xavi (38) - who left Qatari club Al Sadd SC to return back to Spain - but the former FC Barcelona midfielder will start out on the bench, just like Betis' very own veteran player, Joaquín (37).

    Now Betis have already announced that will play an attacking three-striker formation, with four midfielders and just three defenders!



    We will continue to play our usual formation and lineup in this first leg, hoping to leave the Estadio Benito Villamarín with a goalless draw or at least a very narrow defeat - but preferably with an away goal, of course!


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    The Return of the Prodigal Sons

    Tough win and I think you’ll have a few matches like that where you’ll have to fight and 1 goal will win it

    Squad fitness ok then for Europe?

    Betis have some big names and also some other decent players in Tello/Ayala/Berge etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redknapp69 View Post
    Tough win and I think you’ll have a few matches like that where you’ll have to fight and 1 goal will win it

    Squad fitness ok then for Europe?

    Betis have some big names and also some other decent players in Tello/Ayala/Berge etc
    In theory there is a huge gap between the (former) Big Three and the rest. Now with theory I mean finances and crowd attendance. So it's more than just theory.

    For instance Frank Wormuth, the Heracles manager, commented that one Feyenoord player is worth as much as his entire first team.

    Having said that, it is often mockingly said that one Ajax player is worth as much as Feyenoord's entire first team.

    Hence, we are said to reside in no man's land. Meaning that at the end of the season there is bound to be a twenty-point gap (again) between the Big Two and us and a similar twenty-point gap between us and the other 15 teams of the Eredivisie.

    That should explain the daunting task ahead of us.

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    van Persie to the rescue!

    Gonna be a tough game against Betis, story of van Persie vs Villa.

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    RvP must be a happy boy at the moment. He is clearly the key to your performance. You are not going to win the league on goal difference, so it's a case of any scrappy win will do.

    Onto Europe and I suspect it is the time for your defence to show what it can do. That said, you will get chances on the break and if you can get an away goal, you'll have a great chance backhome. I'd rest RvP and save him for the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsley View Post
    RvP must be a happy boy at the moment. He is clearly the key to your performance. You are not going to win the league on goal difference, so it's a case of any scrappy win will do.

    Onto Europe and I suspect it is the time for your defence to show what it can do. That said, you will get chances on the break and if you can get an away goal, you'll have a great chance backhome. I'd rest RvP and save him for the league.
    If Jorgensen wasn't injured and Vente wasn't banned that would be a great idea. But without RvP we'd never get that away goal. Besides, the next league match is at home against NAC who lost all five of their games so far...

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