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    Rules amended again concerning the pre-arranged transfers.

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    Challenge 39 finished!
    Not so easy I thought, after my first superb season...

    I finished 5th with 72 goals, +672pts
    https://imgur.com/sqaWIRi

    I lost in semi final in Cup between the unbeatable Juventus, +200pts
    https://imgur.com/VwUL1WM

    But I scored a lot of bonus point, let me think that is not a so bad score!

    6 Torino players played for Italia between the 1/09 and 31/05:
    *Mattia Caldara, 3 starts and 2 on the bench, 80pts
    *Gianluca Caprari, 2 on the bench, 20pts
    *Federico Chiesa, 6 starts and 1 on the bench, 130pts
    *Domenico Criscito, 3 on the bench, 30pts
    *Alberto Grassi, 1 start, 20pts
    *Lorenzo Pellegrini, 4 starts and 1 on the bench, 90pts
    Total for international caps, +370pts
    https://imgur.com/a/CPUlGkK

    Federico Chiesa (1) and Lorenzo Pellegrini (2) won the young player of the year! +300pts
    https://imgur.com/EBlndsM

    Andrea Belotti (1) and Gianluca Caprari (2) won the italian player of the year! +150pts
    https://imgur.com/2TZlJUf

    Andrea Belotti finished 2nd goalscorer, +50pts
    https://imgur.com/Nu72ptE

    6 players finished in the team of the year,
    *Federico Chiesa, starting, 20pts
    *Andrea Belotti, starting, 20pts
    *Lorenzo De Silvestri, on the bench, 10 pts
    *Lorenzo Pellegrini, on the bench, 10pts
    *Mattia Caldara, on the bench, 10pts
    *Antonio Candreva, on the bench, 10pts
    Total for Team of the Year, +80pts
    https://imgur.com/Ul4b3in

    Total for this challenge 39: +1822pts
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    Challenge 39 concluded!

    7th Italian Serie A: +400
    https://imgur.com/h8WpPy6

    Federico Chiesa - Young player of the year: +200
    https://imgur.com/qvlhqH3

    Andrea Belloti - Italian player of the year: +100
    https://imgur.com/5cmGccj

    Andrea Belloti - Italian Topscorer : +100
    https://imgur.com/hoHxG56

    4 player in the Serie A team of the year (1 in the bench): +70
    https://imgur.com/uEJPldN

    Ialia games:

    Chiesa from the bench: +10
    https://imgur.com/NJx5xEy
    Chiesa: +20
    https://imgur.com/wueQazJ
    Chiesa and Belloti: +40
    https://imgur.com/GLQzjnl
    Chiesa: +20
    https://imgur.com/EcPdPSe
    Chiesa: +20
    https://imgur.com/o7XMHZk
    Chiesa and Belloti: +40
    https://imgur.com/sPDt4Zq
    Chiesa: +20
    https://imgur.com/65A4d0Q

    Total points from Italy games: +170

    72 Goals scored: +72
    https://imgur.com/h8WpPy6


    Total points: +1112

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    Will start on this one now

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    Couple of Q's

    1 - Can I keep any backroom staff who are NOT Italian?

    2 - Assume I am fine to hire any backroom staff who are Italian and are "free" - i.e "No Club/No Nation" (so I'm not taking from a fellow Serie A club)

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    1) Are they already at the club? If so we'll have to say yes as others may have kept them who have completed the challenge already.

    2) No, as per the rules they have to be signed from one of the eligible clubs and can't be no club same as players.

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    1 - Some Argentine fella there I think I'll prob keep - Raimondi - a coach

    2 - Ballsacks - that scuppers my chances of a couple of belters then - Luca Toni and Antonio Di Natale were gonna join

    All noted - ta!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikivampy View Post
    Challenge 39 finished!

    Federico Chiesa (1) and Lorenzo Pellegrini (2) won the young player of the year! +300pts
    https://imgur.com/EBlndsM
    I can only see screenshot of Pellegrini not Young player of the year screenshot.

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    Haven't got back on this yet but will this week

    I guess this challenge is interesting as you do not want to "buy the first Juventus player you can" but maybe take a risk and see if you can buy a "better/higher quality" player down the line

    All performance related I guess as if you do well that could happen but if you have a poor season 1 maybe none of them want to join you

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    You also have to strike a balance on getting the best players and putting a squad together that can compete. No point buying all strikers and then playing with no defenders.

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    Indeed - that's what spreadsheets are for

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    Oups another time!!!
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    Been doing this the last week or so. Season 1 done and out the way. Will report back with screens when the transfer news is in!

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    So after finishing 6th in Serie A in season 1, Europa League beckons. After selling as many players as possible throughout, and at the end of the season, I managed to sell for an impressive total of £69m , it left me in a good position to bring in some quality.

    Lets see who I managed to bring in. In season 1 there was only 1 signing...

    From AC Milan, central defender and Italy international
    Spoiler!


    This meant we had loads of work to do in the summer. A lot of the business was done before the window opened. So on the 1st of July it was new faces all round at training.

    From Chievo, attacking midfielder...
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    From Empoli, Left sided forward...
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    From Sassuolo, a young striker...
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    From Parma, experienced right back...
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    From Lazio, central midfielder...
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    From Sampdoria, deep lying midfielder...
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    From Atalanta, on a bosman, winger on both sides...
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    From Bologna, the only other bosman signing, central midfielder...
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    From the champions Juventus, left back...
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    From Napoli, central and left sided defender...
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    From Frosinone, winger on both sides...
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    From SPAL, experienced holding midfielder...
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    That was that for day 1, but just 2 days later the next man in the door was from Fiorentina, a young winger who can play on both wings...

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    It took a couple of weeks to get the next one sorted. Our biggest outlay, £15.25m for last seasons best young player, top scorer at Genoa, striker...
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    Next up was legend, leader and former one club man, from Roma...
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    Inter was a tough one, so I settled on a goalkeeper having missed out on others...
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    I didn't get who I wanted from Cagliari, so settled on experienced defender/midfielder...
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    My final signing was on the final week, 5 days before the start of the season. From Udinese, it cost £10m, my second highest total, central midfielder...
    Spoiler!


    So the stage was set for a go at Juventus. Although more likely, a push for the Champions League.

    Spoiler!


    Here is how we would lineup on day 1 at home.
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    Kiki it seems that I might missed something, can you provide italy fixtures or savegame? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless View Post
    Kiki it seems that I might missed something, can you provide italy fixtures or savegame? Thanks
    It's in my final post?!
    Here is the link! You can see it for each player.
    https://imgur.com/a/CPUlGkK

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikivampy View Post
    It's in my final post?!
    Here is the link! You can see it for each player.
    https://imgur.com/a/CPUlGkK
    You will need to post dates of the Italy fixtures, because it is only between 1/9 and 31/5. These stats show the whole season so won't be accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweatherston11 View Post
    You will need to post dates of the Italy fixtures, because it is only between 1/9 and 31/5. These stats show the whole season so won't be accurate.
    I didn't keep the savegame because you entered my score, so I thought it was validated...

    If you look the date of the screenshots, you will see 24/5, and the first international games are after the 1/9, so I thought it was enough to proove it...

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    So the season is over, it was not as good as I hoped. So many games I should have won that I didn't. Sirigu was awful for the first 3/4 months of the season and it cost me badly.

    First up, league position: 8th = 300 points, plus 77 league goals = 77 points
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    None of my players made it into team of the year, although Bellotti finished second top scorer with 32 goals. Piantek was insane: 2nd top scorer = 50 points
    Spoiler!


    Bellotti did win Italian Player of the Year: 1st POTY = 100 points
    Spoiler!


    We had a good cup run, but Inter beat us in the final, despite us dominating: cup runner up = 500 points
    Spoiler!


    We didn't have much success getting players capped. Only Caldara, Belotti and Sirigu managed anything: 2 starts, 1 bench appearance = 50 points
    Spoiler!


    Strangeley there was no goalkeeper of the year, don't know what happened? Game bug perhaps. Sirigu got it in 18/19, but nobody got it 19/20?

    Other screenies of staff in, transfers in EOS and Loans IN included here.
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    total points = 1077

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikivampy View Post
    I didn't keep the savegame because you entered my score, so I thought it was validated...

    If you look the date of the screenshots, you will see 24/5, and the first international games are after the 1/9, so I thought it was enough to proove it...
    The thing is, in my save there were 4 games between those dates, 6 in the whole season, but only 4 between those dates. So on a players stat page it will show up, if they played all games, as 6. But that would be wrong.
    Your posts suggest there were 7 games, that all took place within those dates. We don't know if that is true or not, but impossible to know without a screenie of the fixture list, or at a date of the games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweatherston11 View Post
    The thing is, in my save there were 4 games between those dates, 6 in the whole season, but only 4 between those dates. So on a players stat page it will show up, if they played all games, as 6. But that would be wrong.
    Your posts suggest there were 7 games, that all took place within those dates. We don't know if that is true or not, but impossible to know without a screenie of the fixture list, or at a date of the games.
    It's the second challenge you don't believe me... I really don't understand... I'm lucky because I found a savegame on my second PC. Italy played 8 games between the 2 dates. All what you say about Italian games in this challenge are wrong... Italy plays the 2 first games of the season in SEPTEMBER (as always) and my screenshots shows the 24/5, easy to understand that it is ok...
    No matter...
    Here are the fixtures of Italy...
    it's not 4 games as you say...
    not 5, not 6.......
    Italy plays 8 games between september 2016 and april 2017...
    https://imgur.com/a/0TQyIrD

    Can you trust me a little more please?
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    Itís not about not believing you mate, we test all challenges before we release them and in our tests we never saw Italy play 8 games so we required evidence to see where we may have gone wrong.

    From the screenshots youíve now provided it appears you have started in 2016 and not 2018, this would explain the difference in the number of games Italy played as opposed to what they did in our testing.

    Iím not sure what other challenge youíre referring about, off the top of my head I had a query with your score for Challenge 25 as I needed to refresh my knowledge on the challenge and you also didnít take pics of your transfers and loans in/out which was asked for in the rules, in that case I gave you the benefit of the doubt when by the letter of the law I didnít need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    Itís not about not believing you mate, we test all challenges before we release them and in our tests we never saw Italy play 8 games so we required evidence to see where we may have gone wrong.

    From the screenshots youíve now provided it appears you have started in 2016 and not 2018, this would explain the difference in the number of games Italy played as opposed to what they did in our testing.

    Iím not sure what other challenge youíre referring about, off the top of my head I had a query with your score for Challenge 25 as I needed to refresh my knowledge on the challenge and you also didnít take pics of your transfers and loans in/out which was asked for in the rules, in that case I gave you the benefit of the doubt when by the letter of the law I didnít need to.
    No, AMC, in the challenge 25 it was my own fault, not the good screenshots to proove.
    There is no problem, but in the Brexit challenge Dweatherston was already surprised of my signings...
    I use Tapani Patch, perhaps it's an explication for the number of games...
    Sorry for my first post, you are making this website and these challenges live... But I have the feeling that all the results I post are suspicious...


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    Theyíre not suspicious per se but when it doesnít fit in with our testing then we will query it, as you hadnít shown dates of the Italy games and it was more than we experienced in testing we needed evidence as much for our understanding too, same with signing players we couldnít when testing.

    Tapani isnít the problem though, starting in 2016 as opposed to 2018 is though for this challenge.

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    I used Tapani 2.21 I think, I never change the starting date...
    But I found my savegame, no problem!

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