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    The Default Tactics are so bad - The game is not even enjoyable

    Ok, i installed the game again after some time and i use the 368 update and 2019 database.

    The default tactics are just bad, if i choose decent league and team even with customized non wib-wob formation i win everything after few seasons.

    I feel like im an manual continue spamming bot and the game is boring...

    Can we create non-wib wobed tactics for the AI to use in case we play without wib-wobed formation in the game aswell?

    I've tested replacing all the tactics with 4-5-1 non wib wob tactic and all the teams in the game use the same tactic.

    The teams with the better players win the games in most cases, there are a lot of draws to, but it feels kinda balanced and a lot harder to beat.

    Playing the game defo mode is kinda stupid and theres no challenge at all...


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    Here is another interesting read

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    I made this tactic pack a while ago. AI uses non wibwob formations only. You are free to try

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/acn0s5

    or

    https://champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=file&id=381
    Last edited by Spectral; 01-10-19 at 06:28 PM. Reason: link updated

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohu View Post
    I made this tactic pack a while ago. AI uses non wibwob formations only. You are free to try

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/acn0s5

    or

    https://champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=file&id=381
    Nice one, I been looking for something like this, cheers

    Quick question, using SV7, do the AI Managers still tend to play the formation of their preferred choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offside Trap View Post
    Nice one, I been looking for something like this, cheers

    Quick question, using SV7, do the AI Managers still tend to play the formation of their preferred choice?
    I have used it on ODB and Saturn V6, not V7. Managers seem to use their preferred formation but after some time,
    say 10-12 years I saw managers with 451 preferred formation use 343 instead.

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    I can live with that, 10 seasons is good, Ill possibly use this on the next update, depending on how AI Tactics are on that, as I know some work was going to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohu View Post
    I made this tactic pack a while ago. AI uses non wibwob formations only. You are free to try

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/acn0s5

    or

    https://champman0102.co.uk/downloads.php?do=file&id=381
    Excellent stuff. Noticeable difference in AI tactics, and makes it certainly more challenging than on default AI tactics.

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    I am trying to design a new non wib-wob AI tactic pack for the new update as with the old one managers with 433 preferred formation seem to select 343 instead. I managed to create a decent pack with most of the managers selecting right formations except Klopp! He uses 532 attacking default instead of 433 no matter what I change, although other 433 managers uses the 433 with flat 3 mcs, AML and AMR. I don't understand why. Any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohu View Post
    I am trying to design a new non wib-wob AI tactic pack for the new update as with the old one managers with 433 preferred formation seem to select 343 instead. I managed to create a decent pack with most of the managers selecting right formations except Klopp! He uses 532 attacking default instead of 433 no matter what I change, although other 433 managers uses the 433 with flat 3 mcs, AML and AMR. I don't understand why. Any suggestions?
    Yes, It is hard to understand game engine. Do you look at AI manager's profile at save game editor? Managers whose instinct value of tactical knowledge is high
    (not between 155/255)oftenly they are flexible. Sometimes judging ability plays that role too. Mancini in my save file ''4-4-2 - prefers attractive attacking style of play'' but he uses 4-1-3-2, 4-3-3, 5-3-2 attacking and 4-4-2. (his tactical knowledge is 45 in save game editor.
    We can't control that i think, if their attributes are empty at database, during creating new game, game engine gives different instinct values every time different.
    For minimasing that, we need to full all attributes, again this not guarantee.

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    I recently uploaded this pack you can try it out: https://champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13372

    In the pack there are no tactic swaps, only in very important matches (excluding neutral ground, i mean CL final or something like that) 4-3-3 managers sometimes use 4-5-1 only AWAY, cuz its more defensive formations and i really like that.

    Btw, i'm the guy created that thread i just made new acc.

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