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    i have played a couple off saves now, one thing i keep noticing is that the average rating off the players around the leagues are lower than in the oct 19 update.
    Have something been changed in the players attributes to make them worse ?

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    After further gameplay, I think I would reiterate previous comments in that the some of the attribute ratings of players are through the roof! Jordan Henderson looks like he has better stats than any midfielder I ever recall in the original game! Loads of young players that you have never heard of have ridiculously high attributes also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick1873 View Post
    After further gameplay, I think I would reiterate previous comments in that the some of the attribute ratings of players are through the roof! Jordan Henderson looks like he has better stats than any midfielder I ever recall in the original game! Loads of young players that you have never heard of have ridiculously high attributes also.
    Do those young players have high atts at start if game? Would think it's due to PA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfabregas4 View Post
    Is that true? Had no idea that stats actually went up to 46. So 2 players could both be 20 for dribbling but one could be more than twice as good a dribbler as the other.
    Yes, thats true for the ability related atts.

    Quote Originally Posted by cfabregas4 View Post
    Seems odd that over half the scale for attributes is hidden. Strange logic
    I guess the logic is the game only wants you to know the player strenghts and weaknesses, but to know how good he really is you need to have feeling and match observations.

    Quote Originally Posted by cfabregas4 View Post
    so Messi could have a 46 for dribbling.
    No. The game distributes the values how it thinks its realistic, based on the relation between the editor values. The game thinks a 46 is a very rare value, so exponentially rare that the game thinks it should happen only once in a few milleniuns, and the game thinks that a player with 46 for dribbling should have most other attributes very low, because the game thinks such guy would have trained dribbling 24hrs per day and nothing else his entire life, so he only knows dribbling. So messi is created with strong 20s for several attributes but not near 46 (which is the maximmun value possible for an attribute).


    What I tried to say is that many people give feedback like this:

    - "This player appears in game with a 20 for finishing but he isn't the best finisher in the world in real life, so his finishing should be lower than 20".

    So im saying that logic is very wrong because 20 isn't the highest value, its actually 46, you just see them as 20s. So most likelly his 20 is just a weak 20 and wont cause any harm. If someone reduces his attribute to appear as a 19, or 18, etc, all his other attributes will increase automatically, and all his attributes usually become very similar, without any weaknesses and strenghts. A tasteless player.


    Another very common type of feedback is:

    - "This player is really a specialist at passing in real life, but he already appears with 20 for passing so lets up his other attributes a bit so he looks better overall".

    That logic is also very wrong! By increasing his other attributes, his 20 for passing will become much weaker, even if it still appears as a 20. So he will lose a lot of his speciality in passing and become tasteless as well, and probably perform worse.


    So im just explaining why we don't need to be afraid of 20s, otherwise we will be missing more than 50% of the values that the game engine supports and end up with very few diversification in how the players actually perform.
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    Aguero appears to have not bothered for 4 seasons...


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    March 2020 version - Premier League
    I have completed 4 seasons with Liverpool winning 4 league titles with a massive points gap, Apart from 1 season which was won by 2 points on last game of the season.

    Man city are never challenging for major honours bar the odd domestic cup and not signing any major players.

    Anyone else seeing this whilst playing?

    Tactics are attacking, short passing, hard tackling and offside trap.
    Formation is 4-2-3-1 attacking full backs and wide players cutting in, one CM tracking back

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulfitz View Post
    March 2020 version - Premier League
    I have completed 4 seasons with Liverpool winning 4 league titles with a massive points gap, Apart from 1 season which was won by 2 points on last game of the season.

    Man city are never challenging for major honours bar the odd domestic cup and not signing any major players.

    Anyone else seeing this whilst playing?

    Tactics are attacking, short passing, hard tackling and offside trap.
    Formation is 4-2-3-1 attacking full backs and wide players cutting in, one CM tracking back
    First off, thanks to everyone involved in the update, awesome as always!

    I have just finished my first season, Liverpool were my closest challengers with Wolves and Leicester making the Champions League places.

    Man City and Spurs have both signed numerous strikers from the lower leagues but then don't play them, Spurs have also sold Ndombele, Alli and Winks as they were not playing...

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    Hi everyone,

    I have installed the March 2020 data update with the Saturn & Nico patch. No technical issues so far but now there seems to be an award called French Most Unpopular Player. I think this used to be "popular". What do you think may have happened?

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    They have both.

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    On the Oct 19 and March 20 updates Trent Alexander Arnold has his name blanked out on the tactics screen.

    Just shows as his squad number with no name

    Has anyone else seen this?

    No big issue but looks odd

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    There's a few players like it: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (shortened to Alex Oxalde) and Kévin Théophile-Catherine are two. Maybe just called him TAA in the next DB. The DB allows a longer surname than the tactics screen can handle.

    You can set his nickname on the players screen

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    Use a narrower font.

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    Is there a way to create a new player from scratch with this update? cheers

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    Just a question: does installing the new data update affect previous savegames?
    Can you still run a game with the 2016 update for example while you have installed the March 2020 update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BramW4 View Post
    Just a question: does installing the new data update affect previous savegames?
    Can you still run a game with the 2016 update for example while you have installed the March 2020 update?
    Yep - more info here how to run multi databases - https://champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10247

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    Constantino Fernández is no longer the chairman of Deportivo de La Coruña. The current one is Fernando Vidal Raposo (A Coruña, 1962).

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    All the transfer arranged Liverpool reserves join as important first team players as squad status, so when you downgrade them they are immediately unhappy. Any solution for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pm137 View Post
    All the transfer arranged Liverpool reserves join as important first team players as squad status, so when you downgrade them they are immediately unhappy. Any solution for this?
    Transfer list and then change status. Remove from transfer list.

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    The future transfers need to be reviewed.
    Couple of random ones I stumbled upon, are incorrect (example, te Wierik to Derby should be Summer 2020, not 2019).

    Also, why not make use of the genius of random generated PA. Theres a total of 2100 players with PA -2, -1 and 0 in this database. That's only 1,5% of database.
    In original databases, the percent is close to 40%. Adds so much unpredictability (=realism) to the game!

    That being sayd, any way of playing the 3.9.60 database with 3.9.68 game engine, so I can make use of all those wonderful patches, but without losing those last, absolutely classic 2002 world cup qualification matches?

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    Respect for the work put into preparing the update. Is there a chance to update the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League to the current format?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiax View Post
    Respect for the work put into preparing the update. Is there a chance to update the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League to the current format?
    Already answered - no need for a dupe post mate

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    i'm a bit late but thanks to all people from update team for this wonderful work. it's not perfect but pretty well details database here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephMe View Post
    i'm a bit late but thanks to all people from update team for this wonderful work. it's not perfect but pretty well details database here.
    Anything you can help with to make it better is always appreciated (usually before we release it via a "preview save") so feel free to provide any feedback

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    I tried a game with Leipzig but they dont have a reserve or bundesliga 2 team so the 1st team consisted of around 30+ players which was very annoying. Quit it before I started the season due to this.

    It would have been good to see how this good young team did.

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    Third season in, Man City have been a mid-table side for the first two seasons and now Liverpool are starting to fall away despite the core of their teams remaining intact (as a Man Utd fan this is great but does not feel that realistic based on recent real life football).

    Also noticed, PSV played Feyenoord in the Champions League qualifiers, I thought teams from the same country could not play each other? Man Utd were drawn in the same group as Leicester at the 2nd group stage last season but I'm pretty sure I have had this before.

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