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    nope,
    what formation wer you using? no way did he score that amount in any other formation other than 451
    thats just like mess
    set positioning to 1 and he will score more

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    I'll maybe have another play around over the weekend then - tactic used was one of my own, a 4-1-1-3-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeezerCeltic1967 View Post
    set positioning to 1 and he will score more
    Impossible with a 200CA/PA, it gets raised no matter what....... probably 5 or 6 at lowest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofy View Post
    Impossible with a 200CA/PA, it gets raised no matter what....... probably 5 or 6 at lowest
    I read quite carefully about Nistelrooy/Tsigalko thread. But I didnt get clearly about the term "intrinsic value". Is it just only defined by game editor before starting game and by using GK edior we cant change it?

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    Blue Demon is the man you want to speak to mate, he knows how it works better than I do

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngocuong View Post
    I read quite carefully about Nistelrooy/Tsigalko thread. But I didnt get clearly about the term "intrinsic value". Is it just only defined by game editor before starting game and by using GK edior we cant change it?
    Every CA-related att got a different strength. Just because 2 guys got 20 Finishing in the official editor or in-game, doesn't mean their finishing is as strong.

    You can change the intrinsic value in the GK editor though that is cheating to the max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patinoz View Post
    Every CA-related att got a different strength. Just because 2 guys got 20 Finishing in the official editor or in-game, doesn't mean their finishing is as strong.

    You can change the intrinsic value in the GK editor though that is cheating to the max.
    Yeah. I did that. And I know Van Nistelrooy with 100 finishing scores much more than with 255 in game.
    Problem is, when I change this att to 100. It drops after few months. I just want to know how to keep this att consistent when cheating?

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    It`s a hard knock life trying to cheat consistently.

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    I compiled six top10-lists of best players according to the attribute-weights in post #2. I sorted the results by the best attribute, then the second best, and so on.

    These are the results:

    GK=20
    Spoiler!


    DC=20
    Spoiler!


    DM=20
    Spoiler!


    M=20
    Spoiler!


    AM=20
    Spoiler!


    ST=20
    Spoiler!

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    Does anyone know how to change a players Creativity & Off The Ball stats?

    I presume Giorgio must have done it as he says these atts are important for Attacking Midfielders :wha:

    Any help would be appreciated

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    Vision and Movement

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    Thanks for the quick response Coys :dance1:

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    Despite what everyone says, hes not a bad boy

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    Anyone used this to hone their training regimes for each position?

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    superb thread

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    Can't believe I've just discovered this thread. Fantastic work, love this!

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    I followed the whole methodology but still am skeptical. You can call me a skeptic as the final numbers don't match my experience. According to the chart, anticipation is a non-factor, but I know from experience that a defender with low anticipation will suck in the air really bad despite having higher number in jumping. My impression has always been that heading only affects accuracy but not whether you get to the ball in the first place. also it is surprising that team work does not affect defense. Further, I know from experience that technique plays a factor when you conduct short passing but apparently only central midfielder needs it. It's surprising to know that a striker in this game does not need a good first touch to score goals. I have a lot of success having a team with high technique and off the ball but apparently they are only somewhat useful for a few specialized positions but overall superfluous.

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    Any particular reason why Ultimate Striker plays for Burscough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeman View Post
    I followed the whole methodology but still am skeptical. You can call me a skeptic as the final numbers don't match my experience. According to the chart, anticipation is a non-factor, but I know from experience that a defender with low anticipation will suck in the air really bad despite having higher number in jumping. My impression has always been that heading only affects accuracy but not whether you get to the ball in the first place. also it is surprising that team work does not affect defense. Further, I know from experience that technique plays a factor when you conduct short passing but apparently only central midfielder needs it. It's surprising to know that a striker in this game does not need a good first touch to score goals. I have a lot of success having a team with high technique and off the ball but apparently they are only somewhat useful for a few specialized positions but overall superfluous.
    Never wrong to be skeptical. My anecdotal evidence is that anticipation plays a factor. Players who have substantial value for it perform better than those who don't. However the reason might simply be that if you play in smaller/lower leagues, where players have low attributes across the board, that one relatively high attribute like anticipation in fact does make a difference.

    I also always look for technique in all my attacking players. Again, probably it is just a feeling and unjustified, but those who have decent amounts of it perform better, regardless if short or direct passing. Again, this might make a difference more in smaller leagues than in bigger ones where top stars will have high attributes across the board anyways.

    Otherwise the chart - having seen it now for the first time, never knew this is out there - matches my general feeling of what players need for a specific position. Most of it makes perfect sense. One thing that does surprise me: determination. Only mentioned for a few positions. I always thought this is one of the most important attributes a player need as it is linked to the "will to win" which matters on any position on the field.

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    I am sure there is some value in the chart but the idea that Tackling is not a big deal for Full Backs can be shown to be erroneous by the case of Michael Duff esq of Cheltenham Town who turns into the greatest right back in history in every game in the ODB almost entirely because of his intrinsic value in the Tackling category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeman View Post
    I followed the whole methodology but still am skeptical. You can call me a skeptic as the final numbers don't match my experience. According to the chart, anticipation is a non-factor, but I know from experience that a defender with low anticipation will suck in the air really bad despite having higher number in jumping. My impression has always been that heading only affects accuracy but not whether you get to the ball in the first place. also it is surprising that team work does not affect defense. Further, I know from experience that technique plays a factor when you conduct short passing but apparently only central midfielder needs it. It's surprising to know that a striker in this game does not need a good first touch to score goals. I have a lot of success having a team with high technique and off the ball but apparently they are only somewhat useful for a few specialized positions but overall superfluous.
    This is just the in-game comparison when you compare two players together so I wouldn't take it as gospel. It also places a lot of importance on acceleration and pace so question is if someone with 20 pace+acc but only 5 anticipation should get to the ball quicker than someone with 20Ant but 5pace+acc. From my experience Positioning, tackling, jumping, marking seem more important for CB than lightening acc+pace.

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