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  1. #176

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    Way i see it is this:

    Wib/wob is just like a real life manager telling his players to start in this position and through the phases move to position X eventually. So how could it be considered cheating.

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    Tacticas overview vs with or whithout ball????

    Quote Originally Posted by EL-TOPPO View Post
    Way i see it is this:

    Wib/wob is just like a real life manager telling his players to start in this position and through the phases move to position X eventually. So how could it be considered cheating.
    Fucking Oath, I agree with you.
    Last edited by Fods; 29-05-17 at 08:52 AM.

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    With regard to cheating, a reasonable definition is to exploit the flaws of game engine by doing something to put yourself on uneven ground against the AI.

    With that being said, I don't think wibwob is cheating. I think what is cheating is to use no wide players whatsoever. This exploit game engine and put yourself on even ground because the AI uses wide players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeman View Post
    With regard to cheating, a reasonable definition is to exploit the flaws of game engine by doing something to put yourself on uneven ground against the AI.

    With that being said, I don't think wibwob is cheating. I think what is cheating is to use no wide players whatsoever. This exploit game engine and put yourself on even ground because the AI uses wide players.
    Again, only if you choose to use Wib/Wob while letting the computer struggle with the mediocre default tactics.
    Last edited by samsami; 30-05-17 at 12:01 PM.

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    Exploiting a weakness (in this case the match engine) is not cheating. Does that also mean teams cheat against Man City when they bombard Claudio Bravo?

    I personally don't extensively wib-wob and use harder AI tactics because I like to make winning trophies hard to come by, so are extra special when they do. But to call it cheating is absurd.

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    I think people can play however they want to play without being called anything. I personally don't change default AI tactics, but I use realistic formations against them. I wibwob only to make the formation and tactic more realistic to real life. It is not nearly as strong as those super tactics which bunch up everything in the middle, but it is still fun.

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    for me this tactic is best i ever made, im writing because

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    Quote Originally Posted by faz44 View Post
    Yes, attacking/short passing.

    Here's an idea. I've uploaded all the Open Tactic League tactics I have and put a link on the last post in the thread. If you use it in conjunction with the spreadsheet, you'll see there are four tactics that get over 70 points on average: 4-2-3-1 (which is a DR-DC-DC-DL/DMC-DMC/MC-MC-MC/SC), TwoFish (which is fucking crazy), AC Helensburgh and 4-1-2-2-1 Titova Juga (which are DR-DC-DC-DL/DMC/MC-MC/AMR-AML/SC but do it in different ways). They all have different ways of doing things. 4-2-3-1 has a WWW2-esque lone striker on a free role being fed by through balls from the DMC. TwoFish seems to have the NWW thing where a certain amount of arrows (but not too many) works very well. Have a look, experiment.

    On the NWW front, I have a whole range of tactics based on the European Championships tactic pack. All of them have the Tiqui-taka style but they don't all work all the time. I'm now looking at what has worked in the OTL and am going to try that.
    iodineCF didn't make top-4?

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    I got a bit tired of trying to make symmetrical tactics so I went down the route of trying to implement a system where the tactic attempts to overload one side of the pitch before switching it to the other side of the pitch to deliver the killing blow.

    I've implemented a few strains of logic in order to see what I can achieve. Firstly the striker is set to free role in order to float around the pitch. This is reflected in the WIB screens with him being central to all attacks but also available to pass to from all sides. My MC is the creative player who does nothing of note defensively but pulls the strings going forward. My DMC is there to cover the two defenders as the left and right back attack on their respective side. The AMC pushed over the right hand side to work in sync with the right-back and the right-midfielder in order to achieve that an overload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.C.F.C View Post


    I got a bit tired of trying to make symmetrical tactics so I went down the route of trying to implement a system where the tactic attempts to overload one side of the pitch before switching it to the other side of the pitch to deliver the killing blow.

    I've implemented a few strains of logic in order to see what I can achieve. Firstly the striker is set to free role in order to float around the pitch. This is reflected in the WIB screens with him being central to all attacks but also available to pass to from all sides. My MC is the creative player who does nothing of note defensively but pulls the strings going forward. My DMC is there to cover the two defenders as the left and right back attack on their respective side. The AMC pushed over the right hand side to work in sync with the right-back and the right-midfielder in order to achieve that an overload.


    Here's the most recent version of my attempt. A lot of tweaking and experimenting in order to make it a bit more potent and score more. The lone striker tends to do a lot better with goals per game now and the left MC is the architect, often designated as the playmaker. The other, central, MC is the destroyer, looking to close down anyone in their vicinity with hard tackling. The full backs get a nice amount of assists over the course of a season and the AML/AMR play a nice supporting role.

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    Hi guys. Can you tell me what is the best tactic? I need a monster tactic for destroy evryone, THE BEST. Thank you

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