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Thread: Challenge 17 - A Football Philosophy - Part 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by jukilo1888 View Post
    Being a fan of pure Defensive football, I'm very curious about this. Especially because I never worked out the best instructions to give in the game so it's nice to see it's possible.

    Might do this in the future.
    It's tough as hell i took the methodical approach first season when you have the best squad possible came 2nd

    I man marked certain opposition players sometimes the entire team depending on who I was playing or formation etc the ai used or what players i was starting the game with.

    Took about 10 times longer getting through the season compared to a typical save cos even if ai brings on a sub then you have to change stuff around in the player instructions

    it turned into an attacking counter attacking strategy if that even makes sense even though the mentality was set to defensive why below i was averaging around 2 goals a game and conceding 1 goal a game as i wanted the wingers to be let loose and the dmc supporting counter attacks which lost me some defensive solidity but increased my goal rate also
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    First season

    Came 2nd in the league



    knocked out in quarter final of uefa cup against Juventus Rossi played a 3 in goal in the 2nd leg and juventus turned the deficit around of 2-0 to go through 3-2 on aggregate
    Italian cup knocked out early to serie B side Genoa playing a rotated team in both legs





    About to start season 2 on 4th july everyone is out the club that is 31 years of age or younger excluding 95 cup final right back Panucci

    A few transfers where cancelled due to ai having full squad or lack of funds so retransfer listed Amborsini and Kaladze as quick as possible and they both left within 2 days





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    Nice work Leo, all the best for season two.

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    Nice work sorting the squad, good luck mate

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    Season 2 Xmas Break

    League form been decent and done better than expected been lucky to come out on top more often than not in tight games that could of gone either way

    Recently been using mostovoi and petit as free rollers hoping lizarazu is beefy enough to cover for them defensively. Right side completely man mark opposition players down the flank with right DMC also man marking the creative oppositon centre mid or attacjing mid most of the time.

    Champions league god knows how i got through the first group stage but second phase lost both my fixtures so far against barca and bolton








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    Wow look at all those arrows I like that you've made a tactic specifically for using Bierhoff and Shearer up top

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    shearer and bierhoff both injured and on a bad run of results now knew i was in false position just from previous matches

    have to keep changing it

    it's driving me nuts!

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    Season 2

    22 Clean sheets (will be better next season if i keep job!) made mistakes tactically this year not gonna bother with freeroles on defensive mentality better off marking players or zone marking

    Panucci only player to start more than 25 games from 95 champions league final team



    League









    Cups

    2nd Group Phase in Champions league

    Quarter finals of Italian Cup

    25 Points for Panucci being only player from 95 Final team to play over 25 games

    110 points for clean sheets


    135 Total points
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    You’ve still got a job so it’s not a terrible start

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    Where does it show your clean sheets Leo?

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    i'll have to screen shot them from last season results

    just added it to the previous post under league table
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    OK OK so now i am a shut up shop merchant and my attacking players are so isolated but much more solid looking more clean sheets from the back end of last season and beginning of this season

    If my defensive players were still at there peaks maybe this could be a very nice defensive tactic with man marking instructions

    obviously needs a few tweaks to make it more potent on the counter or to keep possession better

    *Started going insanely defensive after the 5-3 win against Palermo back end of last season (stopped many forward arrows and park the dmc usually to man mark opposition players)

    https://i.postimg.cc/fTQnrzHn/results-3.jpg



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    A lot more reserved looking tactic which is giving you the right results at the back.

    Have the board been happy with you so far?

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    back to pleased now and i am 9th in the league lol

    was unhappy with me all summer gonna have to put everything into trying to win the italian cup this year as getting into europe via the league is gonna be very tough as my squad will get weaker as the years go by

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    Keep it up leo37, a ridiculously tough challenge!

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    End of Season 3





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    AC Milan - Monday 24th May 2004
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    2003/4 Fixtures
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    Date Opposition Ven Competition Res Attend Scorers
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    11.7.03 Bari H Friendly 2:0 53685 Desailly 2
    19.7.03 Brescia H Friendly 1:1 53458 Paulo Sérgio
    25.7.03 Atalanta H Friendly 1:0 53428 Bierhoff
    1.8.03 Fiorentina H Friendly 0:0 53465
    8.8.03 Cagliari H Friendly 0:0 53661
    15.8.03 Foggia H Friendly 2:0 53393 Shearer 2 (1 pen)
    7.9.03 Verona A Serie A 2:1 36195 Petit, Bierhoff
    11.9.03 Lyngby DEN H UEFA Cup 1st Rnd Leg 1 1:0 54193 Simone
    14.9.03 Roma H Serie A 0:0 76944
    20.9.03 Juventus A Serie A 1:0 56533 Shearer
    25.9.03 Lyngby DEN A UEFA Cup 1st Rnd Leg 2 2:0 5811 Leonardo, Cardozo
    28.9.03 Reggina H Serie A 1:1 65909 Simone
    1.10.03 Atalanta H Serie A 0:1 68686
    11.10.03 Napoli A Serie A 0:1 72777
    16.10.03 RKC HOL H UEFA Cup 2nd Rnd Leg 1 1:0 54720 Reuter pen
    19.10.03 Venezia A Serie A 0:0 13455
    26.10.03 Inter H Serie A 1:0 85440 Petit
    30.10.03 RKC HOL A UEFA Cup 2nd Rnd Leg 2 2:0 6082 Bierhoff 2
    2.11.03 Chievo A Serie A 0:0 24191
    9.11.03 Torino A Italian Cup 2nd Rnd Leg 1 0:0 34074
    15.11.03 Lazio H Serie A 0:0 72920
    20.11.03 Rangers SCO H UEFA Cup 3rd Rnd Leg 1 1:0 72364 Karpin
    23.11.03 Torino A Serie A 3:1 40155 Simone 2, Leonardo
    26.11.03 Torino H Italian Cup 2nd Rnd Leg 2 0:0 56132
    30.11.03 Bologna H Serie A 2:2 60452 Djalminha, Shearer
    4.12.03 Rangers SCO A UEFA Cup 3rd Rnd Leg 2 1:0 50410 Shearer
    7.12.03 Fiorentina A Serie A 0:2 44356
    10.12.03 Inter A Italian Cup Qtr Final Leg 1 1:2 85416 Cardozo
    14.12.03 Parma H Serie A 4:2 61867 Shearer 2, Cardozo, Petit
    7.1.04 Inter H Italian Cup Qtr Final Leg 2 2:0 85430 Simeone 2
    11.1.04 Udinese H Serie A 2:1 59519 Shearer, Edmundo
    14.1.04 Lecce H Serie A 1:0 60927 Shearer pen
    18.1.04 Atalanta A Serie A 1:1 26723 Mostovoi
    21.1.04 Reggina A Italian Cup Semi Final Leg 1 0:1 27953
    25.1.04 Verona H Serie A 2:0 76792 Shearer, Panucci
    28.1.04 Vicenza A Serie A 0:0 20907
    1.2.04 Roma A Serie A 1:1 78136 Edmundo
    4.2.04 Reggina H Italian Cup Semi Final Leg 2 2:0 76614 Cardozo 2
    7.2.04 Juventus H Serie A 2:0 79556 Mostovoi, Larsson
    15.2.04 Reggina A Serie A 1:1 27973 Mostovoi
    22.2.04 Napoli H Serie A 3:0 68917 Petit 2 pens, Edmundo
    29.2.04 Lecce A Serie A 1:2 23910 Leonardo
    4.3.04 Arsenal ENG A UEFA Cup 4th Rnd Leg 1 1:1 38412 Cardozo
    6.3.04 Roma A Italian Cup Final Leg 1 0:1 81165
    11.3.04 Arsenal ENG H UEFA Cup 4th Rnd Leg 2 2:0 64951 Shearer 2
    14.3.04 Inter A Serie A 0:0 85404
    18.3.04 Bursaspor TUR H UEFA Cup Qtr Final Leg 1 1:0 72340 Edmundo
    21.3.04 Chievo H Serie A 2:0 58702 Petit pen, Larsson
    25.3.04 Bursaspor TUR A UEFA Cup Qtr Final Leg 2 1:1 19661 Batty
    31.3.04 Lazio A Serie A 0:1 79519
    4.4.04 Torino H Serie A 5:2 61237 Strand, Shearer 3, Edmundo
    8.4.04 Schalke 04 GER H UEFA Cup Semi Final Leg 1 1:1 66626 Shearer
    11.4.04 Bologna A Serie A 0:0 37952
    18.4.04 Fiorentina H Serie A 1:0 62398 Simone
    22.4.04 Schalke 04 GER A UEFA Cup Semi Final Leg 2 1:3 60153 Edmundo
    25.4.04 Parma A Serie A 0:0 27986
    2.5.04 Vicenza H Serie A 2:1 61309 Maldini, Strand
    5.5.04 Roma H Italian Cup Final Leg 2 0:1 75164
    7.5.04 Venezia H Serie A 0:0 58654
    9.5.04 Udinese A Serie A 2:0 32058 Petit, Simeone

    Tactic Used mainly but arrows and marking system did change sometimes depending who i played on the flanks or upfront or if the opposition was 4-4-2 or 5-3-2 or 3-5-2

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    30 Clean Sheets

    3 Players from 95 Champions league final to make 25 competitive appearances Panucci, Maldini and Very dead Marco Simone

    Lost Italian Cup Final to Roma

    Out of Uefa Cup at semi final stage

    My team was completely dead towards end of season so many sendings off injuries and collapse in attributes

    Glad season was over once knocked out the cups (knew i wasn't gonna overturn first leg defeat to roma in Italian Cup final on defensive mentality lol)

    Total points

    30 Clean sheets = 150 points
    '95' Final player bonus = 75 points (3 players Panucci, Maldini and Simone)

    225 Total Points

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    How did the board take coming 7th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_y View Post
    How did the board take coming 7th?
    satisfied currently perhaps two decent cup runs helped compared to last season when they where extremely disappointed with me all summer

    surprised i made it to season 3 was expecting to get sacked

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    Quote Originally Posted by leo37 View Post
    satisfied currently perhaps two decent cup runs helped compared to last season when they where extremely disappointed with me all summer

    surprised i made it to season 3 was expecting to get sacked
    I came 7th in season 2 as well and was on the verge, coming 10th in season 5 did it lol

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    2nd - 5th - 7th out of the 3 seasons so the decline is happening

    I got no money as well the 90 million that was there for transfers has vanished got about 4 mill which won't buy me even one top end 32yr old

    Main issues i find just as team starts to gel the player attributes decline on the older players and they need to be replaced for the following season it's a viscous cycle lol

    Like Keown last season was averaging 7.7 at start of season at the end of season he was then 37 and he no longer gets any 8's just 7's with a few 6's now

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    Tactics, declining players and money running out, the 3 items that make this challenge so hard

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    main issue with being forced to play defensive mentality with an old back line is you can't use a sweeper as it's flat back 4 on a non wib wob a sweeper would make a huge difference as you then don't have to worry about pace at the back as much

    thinking about dragging an arrow back from dc to cover as sweeper next season and then perhaps drag a d/dmc to cover the defensive position on zonal marking set

    with an ageing paceless back line though thinking they would get dragged out of position or just don't have the legs to pull it off consistently though

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    Quote Originally Posted by leo37 View Post
    thinking about dragging an arrow back from dc to cover as sweeper next season and then perhaps drag a d/dmc to cover the defensive position on zonal marking set
    I was about to suggest this. Turn offside trap off as well so you don't get caught short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.C.F.C View Post
    I was about to suggest this. Turn offside trap off as well so you don't get caught short.
    yes not needing offside trap would be nice as it's always risky against quality strikers with high off the ball and pace if you can shut down there midfield with a mix of zonal and man marking to stop supply it could work

    gonna play loads of friendlies and test out some strategies against decent opposition

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