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    German Bundesliga

    New Bundesliga season starts today with Bayern - M'Gladbach and similar to last year I will give a bit of a season preview on the clubs. I will be evaluating transfer dealings only with a thumbs up or down so it might be harsh at times so post up your opinion if you feel differently.




    FC Bayern München

    Transfers In:

    Mario Götze (Dortmund)
    Thiago Alcantara (Barcelona)
    Jan Kirchhoff (Mainz)


    Transfers Out:

    Mario Gomez (Fiorentina)
    Anatoly Tymoshuk (Zenit)
    Nils Petersen (Werder Bremen)
    Emre Can (Leverkusen)





    Bayern managed to secure themselves the signature of 2 of the most talented young player the world has on offer plus another young German talent in Kirchhoff.
    I personally am a bit sad that Gomez left and wouldn't have sold him but it was inevitable due to the Pep's system. Tymo, Petersen and Can (for whom we have a buy-back clause) won't be missed. It's also possible that Luiz Gustavo will be sold as he is attracting interest from German teams and from abroad.
    Overall so far a great window.


    Likely line-up:



    It's basically impossible to predict Bayern's line-up. Boateng can play in defense, Thiago and Shaqiri anywhere in the midfield position as well as Mandzukic up front and Müller a bit further back. There will likely be a different line-up and potentially even different system (false 9) every second game so rotation is key.


    Outlook:

    - Bayern is arguably the best team in the world and the depth, especially in midfield, is insane. A new manager and high-profile signings will make sure that none of the current players think they can go easy now having just won the treble.

    - Pep brings with him a lot of ideas and the system change needs time. There will always be stars sitting on the bench or stands so he will also need to make sure no unrest arises; something Heynckes has done to perfection last year.


    Prediction:

    1st

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    Borussia Dortmund

    Transfers In:

    Henrik Mkhitaryan (Shaktar Donetsk)
    Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (St. Etienne)
    Sokratis (Werder Bremen)


    Transfers Out:

    Mario Götze (FC Bayern)
    Felipe Santana (Schalke)
    Leonardo Bittencourt (Hannover)
    Moritz Leitner (Stuttgart)
    Lasse Sobiech (Hamburg)
    Daniel Ginczek (Nürnberg)
    Patrick Owomoyela (free)





    Similar to what I have mentioned once before, Dortmund lost Götze and replaced him one-to-one with Mkhitaryan. Sokratis or Großkreutz will take over Santana's back-up defender spot as well as cover for Piszcek who is out for months. Aubameyang will be the first option off the bench so compared to last season their starting XI has become slightly worse and there ain't a lot of decent back-up players available either. It is yet to be seen if they make another transfer but according to Zorc, that will be a cheap back-up player for the attack. Back-up for defense and central midfield is very much needed in my opinion.


    Likely line-up:



    Not as hard to predict as Bayern. Team puts itself up when everybody is fit.


    Outlook:

    - That Starting XI is one of European's best and can easily beat any team in the world. The manager and their brilliant pressing system stayed the same as there is no reason to change so no time wasted on fine-tuning. Aubameyang is a great weapon on the bench.

    - The depth issue didn't get addressed and I don't see how they can properly challenge in all 3 competitions with that squad. The Lewandowski transfer saga is still at full blast and it will be seen what kind of season he is gonna have. The defense was very leaky last season and won't be any better with Piszcek out and Großkreutz or Sokratis covering. If one of Gündogan, Reus or Lewandowski gets injured, they are in deep trouble as they can't adequately replace that player.


    Prediction:

    2nd

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    What were Frankfurt doing this week Pat? Getting stuffed in the first game must be one massive downer.

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    Franco di Santo to Bremen. Any good?

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    no.

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    Bayer 04 Leverkusen

    Transfers In:

    Heung Min Son (Hamburg)
    Robbie Kruse (Düsseldorf)
    Emre Can (Bayern)
    Roberto Hilbert (Besiktas)
    Giulio Donati (Inter)
    Emir Spahic (Sevilla)
    Andres Palop (Sevilla)
    Levin Öztunali (Hamburg)
    Konstantinos Stafylidis (PAOK)


    Transfers Out:

    Andre Schürrle (Chelsea)
    Daniel Carvajal (Real Madrid)
    Michael Kadlec (Fenerbahce)
    Hajime Hosogai (Hertha)
    Nicolai Jörgensen (Kopenhagen)
    Michael Rensing (Düsseldorf)
    Daniel Schwaab (Stuttgart)
    Manuel Friedrich (free)





    Leverkusen is a hard one to judge. They lost Schürrle but replaced him with a decent player that is Son. Carvajal got replaced with Donati who I will wait to judge as it'd be unfair. Nobody knew Carvajal a year ago and now he likely is RB for Real Madrid. Who knows what development Donati takes. Despite the first team overall getting a tiny bit worse, they still managed to hold onto Leno, Bender, Kießling etc. and added a nice mix of young talents (Öztunali is a massive talent, grandson of Germany legend Uwe Seeler) and older experienced players while making 13m profit so far which is good for them as they ain't a very rich club.


    Likely line-up:



    Pretty straightforward really. Spahic will be rotation player in defense and Rolfes, Can and Kruse will come off the bench in midfield.


    Outlook:

    - They have a good German axis with Leno, Wollscheid, Bender, Reinartz, Castro, Sam and Kießling. They have also only finished 1 point behind Dortmund in the league last season which got a bit lost amongst all the CL final hype.

    - The successful and innovative manager tandem between Hyypiä and Lewandowski has been broken up so now the relatively unexperienced Finnish legend is solely responsible for the team. They also lack a bit of depth due to the tight budget. They are very dependent on Kießling who has easily been the best German striker the last year and also won the Bundesliga top scorer award last season. If he gets injured, they are in trouble.


    Prediction:

    3rd-4th

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    They have got one of Polish talents who I have high hopes for. Milik.

    Now that Schurrle is gone, maybe he will get more play time... He needs it if he wants to develop. Prove himself too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by info0 View Post
    They have got one of Polish talents who I have high hopes for. Milik.

    Now that Schurrle is gone, maybe he will get more play time... He needs it if he wants to develop. Prove himself too.
    He doesn't play Schürrle's position though. He is Kießling's backup but got no chance of playing ahead of him

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    Which is tad a shame. He scored 2x vs Turkey in U21 yesterday.

    Malaga also got a bargain in Pawlowski from Widzew (loan with buy out clause of 1mln E).

    Hopefully they will play some games... Also wondering how Sobiech will do.

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    Sobiech is a shocking defender.


    never mind, I assume you meant the other one. Won't get past Diouf or Ya Konan realistically. Plus they also got Prib and Bittencourt and Hustzi and Schlaudraff etc. Don't really see any space in the offense for him

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    Leno had a howler over the weekend Pat, is he prone to silly mistakes like that often?

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    Kevin Prince Boateng moved to Schalke for 12m euros?! What the fuck?

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    Very surprised that Milan have let him go given he seems to score key goals for them... But an offer of that much must be snapped off!

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    Did not see that one coming. 12m € is a brilliant deal for Schalke.

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    It's quite amazing how he has transformed into the player he is. Couldn't get a kick at spurs and deservedly so.

    Fair play to him, but can't understand why he's moving. Milan must be in serious shit financially?

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    Making way for Kaka that's why.

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    Making way for Honda maybe? I hear they will let go of Nocerino too... O_O
    Shocking transfer policy here... Getting rid of better players, but after that look at their CL group .

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    Making way for Kaka that's why.
    Very silly if that's the case, Kaka is not getting any younger, he's completely out of form and injury prone. Boateng is becoming a better player every year, on the other hand.

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    Kroos control

    As Bayern Munich prepare to visit Manchester City on Wednesday, Adam Bate looks at the vast potential of their midfielder Toni Kroos. The 23-year-old missed the Champions League final but is ready to make up for that disappointment by becoming the star man under Pep Guardiola...


    It's hard to believe now but in October 2007, Bayern Munich, the current champions of Europe, were slumming it in what was then known as the UEFA Cup. What's worse, they were losing 2-1 to Crvena Zvezda in Belgrade courtesy of a bouncing 30 yard strike by Nenad Milijas. There were 10 minutes remaining and Bayern were hoping to somehow get out of Serbia with a draw. Ottmar Hitzfeld sent for Toni Kroos.

    The youngster had made his professional debut the previous month - setting up two goals in a 5-0 thrashing of Energie Cottbus. But with the home crowd in full voice, this was rather different. And yet, Kroos immediately asserted himself as free-kick taker. Within minutes he had curled in a cross for Miroslav Klose to smuggle in an equaliser. In injury-time, from virtually the same spot, the midfielder whipped in a low ball that eluded everyone and nestled in the far corner.
    The turnaround was complete and Kroos had undoubtedly been the instigator. Clearly, Bayern had got lucky but those who knew of their young star's gifts were reluctant to view the events as mere fortune. Hitzfeld was fulsome in his praise. "He is a passionate footballer with great instinct," said the veteran coach in his post-match interview. "He always takes the right decision on the pitch and you don't have to tell him what to do." Kroos was just 17 years old.


    Potential

    Six years on and the Germany international is still earning the admiration of his managers. "I have seen his unlimited potential," said Jupp Heynckes last season. "At the moment, I see Toni Kroos as further developed than Wolfgang Overath and Gunter Netzer at the same age." Given that Overath had played in his first World Cup final at 22 and both men can mount a persuasive case to be considered among the top five midfielders of their generation, these are not words to be dismissed cheaply. Heynckes is no Blade Runner, but as a two-time Champions League winning coach of pensionable age let's just say he's seen things.

    But then, Toni Kroos inspires superlatives. Here is a player that has everything. "Kroos is a phenomenon," writes tactics expert Jonathan Wilson. "Perhaps the archetype of the modern attacking midfielder." That is to say he can shoot and pass, score and assist. He possesses an awareness of space and the intelligence to adapt to a variety of roles. He can play passes both long and short. He is technically comfortable in tight spaces and has the athleticism to drive forwards when afforded room.


    Toni Kroos - Bundesliga 2012/13
    Discipline Number Ranking
    Shots per game 2.2 20th
    Assists 11 11th
    Passes 52.8 18th
    Passing accuracy 89.7% 5th
    Key passes per game 2.8 3rd
    Accurate crosses per game 2.1 6th
    Throughballs per game 0.5 3rd

    The statistics tell some of the story. A passing accuracy of 89.7 per cent ranked him fifth in the Bundesliga last season. Impressive enough, but delve deeper and it becomes clear that the meticulousness of Kroos was rather more remarkable than those around him. He made 2.8 key passes per game - the third most in the league. The four more accurate passers didn't make as many key passes between them. He had 2.2 shots per game - among the top 20 in the league. The four more accurate passers didn't have as many shots between them.

    There are the throughballs too. Kroos successfully threaded 11 passes behind the opponents' defensive line last season, putting him among the top three when it came to incision passing - but with a better accuracy than his rivals. This tale of key passes and throughball excellence paints a picture of a player not content to boost his statistical accuracy with safe balls to the full-back. Kroos plays the difficult passes. He just plays them with a precision others cannot match.

    Not only is he making the difficult passes but he is able to make them in difficult areas of the pitch. Operating in the final third of the field in those confined spaces, Kroos flourishes. As a result, he is an ideal advanced playmaker. With Kroos injured in the spring, Thomas Muller scored five times in the knockout stages to take the plaudits in the latter stages of Bayern's triumphant Champions League campaign. But few in the Bayern dressing room are in any doubt as to who remains the main man. "It's better for me when Toni Kroos plays as a No. 10," said Franck Ribery. "He is also better in possession of the ball, he gives good passes. The No. 10, for me, is Toni Kroos." Franck by name, frank by nature.

    Perhaps it is his unselfish play that makes him such a popular figure alongside FC Hollywood regulars such as Ribery and Arjen Robben. After all, his decision-making is arguably his greatest asset. The intangibles. That awareness of position, knowing where to find space at all times brings synergy benefits that Muller cannot match. Under Pep Guardiola there is even hope that Kroos could go to the next level - whatever that may be. "Toni Kroos is an exceptional player and he could play anywhere in the world," said Guardiola this summer.

    The early signs are good. As the big guns fired off the opening shots of this season's Champions League - ingeniously branded as Matchday One - Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo were the predictable headline grabbers with three goals apiece. But somewhere in the classifieds was Kroos. The man with more passes (66) than anyone else in the opposition half and with a superior level of accuracy too - 98.5 per cent, the best of any player to find a team-mate more than 20 times. His barely believable passing accuracy of 96.7 per cent in the final third against CSKA Moscow was also unrivalled.

    As Manchester City prepare to host Bayern Munich at the Etihad Stadium on Wednesday evening, even Sheikh Mansour might be looking on enviously at the away team's midfield options. Muller, Robben and Ribery will be there. Bastian Schweinsteiger too. The heroes of Wembley. But the best talent on view will be a player who wasn't even on the field that day in May. The guy who always made the right decision on the pitch at 17 is ready to take on the world at 23.

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    Pat yr slacking with your german reviews... Get yr ass back in gear and sort it out

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    Kießling's goal which wasn't a goal which was given a goal. Insane.


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    That's a shocker!

    Not even close.
    Player's reactions give it away as well!

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    LOL what the fuck haha.

    Goal was given because of ball getting through side net? Ridiculous xD.

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    Bayern take a bit of a pumping today,
    Mkhitariyan ran the show from what i seen Scores the 1st, great run and pass for reus to score the 2nd, great counter attacking goal.
    Pat,
    Dante looks awful, if he has a fast striker running at him he is in big trouble, Decent in the air but not brilliant on the deck, any chat of where pep is wanting to strengthen the team? maybe just take another of your rivals best players? Reus?

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    Mkhitaryan been good today. Shame he couldn't play like that when it mattered.

    We look so lazy since we won the league. Doesn't help that Pep himself said that the league is over and the focus is on Cup and CL now. Same with the loss to Augsburg. Players saying "good that nobody got injured" after the game, not that it is bad that we lost. Zero effort in the league lately.

    of course you have to prioritize but I wish they'd do it a little less obvious.

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